Opposition Leader Peter Dutton drops in with Nathan, Nat & Shaun to tackle the hot topics: skyrocketing costs of living, the future of Australian energy, and… a dash of revenge? Hear Dutton's fiery comeback to Albo’s cheeky drawing of him...
Is there Nathan nat and Sean podcast.
Leader of the Opposition, Peter Dutton's in the house here you going. Yeah, seems weird to say that and it's nearly February.
Grab on to it.
Yeah, that's right.
So we've been coming off a long break which we've been talking about.
But did you get a break over Christmas?
Do you get away with the family?
Might tell you. We went to the beach for a couple of weeks, which is nice.
Phone sort of you know, follows you everywhere, but the reality of life now.
It was good. It was a bit of time with the kids and they were which speaks.
Do you go?
We went to Noosa.
Us meos.
I definitely don't. You should.
It should be for all politicians. Yeah, you're right.
And you don't eat never eat a or a dad wood dog, hot dog. Never eat anything sausage.
I did that once in those images.
Yeah, so that's why I don't do videos on the internet.
Where's Nick Nicks outside my press sick? She was throwing things at me saying, don't do that. But but you can't eat it. You can't eat it sideways, right, but then they have to like girls there, they've beat it front eye and you're in trouble.
You always had a like about that all the time.
But always if you've got a Pluto papa, a daggoo dog, just always show teeth and then away from.
What we're do, work of experience.
When you're traveling with your family and you only got it down, you got downtime, can you stay present?
And is your wife like.
God, man, just give up the phone, Just come on, we want to have some time together.
No, but she's she's pretty good.
And the kids are Our kids are a bit older now, so Begs twenty two, Harry's twenty and Tom's nineteen, so so they're adults.
And you can have a conversation with him.
But I my most favorite period in our calendar is sort of once the first test starts up until the tennis finishes, and because over that period you can sit on the couch, you can watch TV, you can read a book, you can muck around, and it's just I think it's a golden sort of a few weeks.
And so you reckon we should have tennis all year round because that's when everything sort of stops and you can just have a relation.
I think there's an argument for it, but the kids are happy. To my point is I guess that the kids are happy to do that with you as well. Watch a bit of BBL and and yeah, it's a it's a relation time of.
Year you get out and about in New So like you're walking is it as Hasting Street?
Isn't it? Are you walking down the street?
Try to avoid it as bestally?
Yeah.
I was going to say, do people give you a hard time? No?
People people are great, but it's just you know, you go to a restaurant or whatever and people come up slow, which is fantastic, but it's not you know, you sort of on display when you're doing that.
Just as easy to have friends over for a barbie or go to someone's place.
Because you got your own pourage. When you're just on holidays, do you have to take your security and stuff with you as yes?
Yeah?
Yeah yeah they you go to the beach, go to the beach, yeah yeah.
You look over.
If you go to the water slides and one don't have to go on the water.
Slide right right behind.
The train.
I would make a funny game out of that and like sit there with the family and come up with things to make the security do because you guys are going to do.
It just to put you a rest. I didn't go on the water everybody.
We're going to get out of candy lines done.
There's plenty happening over here in the West, obviously. We like to think that where the engineering of the nation and all that kind of stuff. Albow did a great job last election campaign and coming over there and supporting WA and therefore got the votes. Why would you do things different and how could you do things better? Because everyone says that they do things better, you know.
I just think.
It's a different election campaign this time around, obviously than it was in twenty twenty two. There was a big vibe around Scott Morrison, around the Liberal Party then, and I just think it's a different dynamic now. I think a lot of people thought that the economy would keep pumping along and it hasn't.
You know, a lot of people just can't afford to pay their grocery bill.
Insurance premiums have gone through the roof, people have got twelve increases in their mortgage interest rates, and a lot of people have gone back to work after having a baby much sooner than what they would have wanted to and they're working a second or third job just to make the payments on their car, or you know, to balance their budget. And so it is a different dynamic at this election, and I think the Liberal Party manages money better, and there's a lot of waste. The Reserve Bank Governor's worn the government about the amount of money that they're spending in the economy at the moment, which is fueling inflation, which is what keeps interest rates higher for longer. And the interest rates have already started to come off in Canada and the United States, New Zealand, et cetera. And they should have already come down here.
Has slowed though there has been a slowing, a.
No question about that.
But still and there's you know, some quarterly figures out this week and the Reserve Bank Governor will make an announcement I think over the course of the next on the eighteenth of February. So so let's hope they come down. But if the government's pumping the accelerator at the same time the Reserve Bank's trying to hit the brake, it doesn't end well.
And that's that's what's happened before.
I did Asker Prome Minister this because I said, you're going to possibly lose this election because of course living because that's.
The number one thing, and you know, and whenever.
I ask the question, what are we going to do to get more money back into people's pockets because since COVID everything is so expensive To me personally, I think the cat's out of the bag. I don't think there's any dropping prices. I don't think I cannot see companies.
Well, I've seen other things, like like rebates on childcare.
So that's that's it.
But we're just talking about like so for childcare that rebate, I don't get that, you know what I mean. So so just generally you don't need it because I know. Let me finish my point. So under your leadership, are we going to be living in a world?
I'm going to get it's going to be cheaper. But let's have a look at the reasons as to why prices have gone up. If you have a look at the energy policy, we're into renewables. They're an important part of the energy mix, but they can't be one hundred percent of the energy system because we can't store the energy. When you know that the clouds are out and the solar panels up working and the wind's not blowing, the batteries don't have the storage capacity, which is why we've spoken about nuclear and gas being very important.
That's a very expensive solution, it's not.
It's forty four percent cheaper than what Labour's got on offer at the moment we've had that analysis done. But my point is that all of that extra cost of the overbuild of the system, so not just to run the economy, but to charge the batteries for the nighttime use, it means you need to overbuild. There's a lot more money being spent on solar and wind than what we might have to Now. My point is that that's increasing your electricity bill at home, but it's also increasing the electricity bill of the farmer and the local IgA store with the cold storage, and that's why you're seeing an increase in grocery prices when you go there to buy your groceries. And it's just across every part of society. Energy. As I say, energy is the economy and if you have the so for instance, an another example of I think wasteful spending is there are another thirty six thousand people that have been employed in the bureaucracy in Canberra and I just don't know that people could say in Perth that their lives have been improved by that. But it comes at a cost of six billion dollars a year, and that's money that we could be better spending on health or other services in the economy.
This is in the news at the moment because people are comparing that to Elon Musk and they're trying to trump you at the moment.
They're trying to say you're You're Australia is trying.
It's more like that you're playing from the Trump playball.
So what do you think about that?
That's why I'm here today and this is your time to step up for the country.
But when I saw the Elon Musky, and you know, I think Elon Musk is a bit of a bit of a clown sometimes, but you know, whatever's happening over in America. But I do like the idea of cutting down like waste, like waste or spending.
People work too hard for their money. When you play your taxes, you want to know that it's been spent efficiently. And I mean people you know, can draw the Trump comparison. My inspiration in public life has been John Howard and I worked to see your assistant treasure for Peter Costello way back many years ago, and so efficiency and driving the best spend in every dollar is not something that President Trump's come up with and just sit a price. I think done a fantastic job in her portfolio. So I don't propose setting up a new department like President Trump's done. I think it's done in the Prime minister in cabinet because you have a look across all the departments and you can do it effectively from there. So look, there's no silver bullet to it. But the Liberal Party always manages money more effectively. Many of us come from a small business background. We understand managing staff and managing money and getting the economy going as we did through COVID. I mean, we helped a lot of families and small businesses stay afloat over that period. And there's a lot of work to do if we win the election.
Pet One of the things that they've said in the past is that you don't win elections as just the opposite. The current government loses, right, and a lot of people I know in small business will say they can't wait for Alba to get gone because they want a different horizon with the nuclear stuff that you've thrown out there, and that brings it out the CSIRO, they come up with a different formula and they said different things. I felt like, do you just play the straight bat with the opportunity to get in as the government? Do you need to play any shots and throw out different trick policies. I think you not tricks but policies and really haven't go I mean, the nuclear thing really got some attention and.
We're not going to feel that if you were to bring it in, we're not going to feel the effects of that for what ten fifteen years.
And to sell it, by the way, just use a three eyed fish from the Simpsons.
We're all used to it.
It's not going to lower the price of groceries anytime in the next day.
At the moment, there's investment being made into renewable projects in regional communities that don't want them, and the government's proposing twenty eight thousand kilometers of new poles and wires the beauty of the and that investment's being made now, so people are feeling that in their bills now. Our investment into nuclear is along the lines of what the top nineteen economies in the world have done. Out of the top twenty, Australia is the only one that doesn't have nuclear or hasn't signed up to it. And two thirds of people aged between eighteen and thirty four support nuclear because they look at what's happening in Europe or in America, in Tennessee, or in Ontario and Canada. They're paying about one third the cost of electricity that we are here. So renewables are good, but they don't work twenty four to seven And to run the ICU unit in the hospital or to run the cold storage, it's twenty four to seven power. And when you look at the submarines that you know the Prime Minister, to his credit, is signed up to it's exactly the same technology and so there are no concerns about safety, or the government wouldn't have signed up to it and putting, you know.
Submarine leave, Hey, we've got something for you, wet yeah, present, Okay, nice, it's not actually from us, actually from the Prime Minister.
Do you know him?
I do know, and that's why I'm worried.
We did a thing here where we did a challenge where one of this that was drawing, and that was elbow, was given a butcher's paper pad a textar, and then he was given a word, and then I had to stand behind him and guess what he had drawn.
And I guess this within how many seconds?
Almost straight away?
Yeah, three seconds?
Heard the word was Peter Dutton. This is an original by Anthony Albanez. Ready, and we got some butcher's paper here for you to respond as well, if you'd like.
To draw the prome minis. This is Peter Dutt's.
That's impressive and that's that really sums up the PM's total skill.
Set there glass he's an overachiever.
And all those portraits, Yeah, there is a there's a striking, striking resemblance there is.
There is all Nathan gets straight away as you can.
And the big smile as well.
I like, I think the smile is nice of him to do it because he could have got vampire teeth.
And if there's a bit of a blemish here, yeah, your face, it's a little bit.
He just had lunch, So we've got one.
Okay, Yeah, let's bring.
The let's bring the paper over here.
On your word, Peter ducky is Anthony.
But aren't you supposed to guess it?
No, no, we are.
You have to draw it. So your word is Anthony Alban. You draw him as you see him.
I'll pay.
You're a left hander.
We knew this last time.
Got the world of having ink on your hand because we pushed the pen.
Isn't that crazy?
Exactly right?
Here we go, Okay, so there we go.
We've got it.
He looks like he'sdrawing a hill. Yeah, okay, okay, Wow, he's trying. Okay, we've got water. Well, Nathan's already onto it. And I'm not sure. I think I think that's the sun. Is that a nuclear power house?
Is this his his beach house on the cliff? Are you going to have a piece of money coming out of it? And Jody, Jody, then your eyes have gone a bit skew.
We know him.
It's not a fine tip pen. That's part of the problem, isn't that.
Yeah, Well, I like what you've done because as well, Jody, he's lovely at the moment, looks like a stick figure of the predator.
Holding hand.
That is really nice.
The new places that you think that this is coca. This is a retirement.
Will you sign it? Please?
Yeah?
Sign it and we'll get that frame and know, hang that in the new house, because that's good. I mean to be honest, the foundation of that house doesn't look too good.
Yeah, do you reckon?
If you beat him in the election, you will hang it.
Retirement, retirement, What do you think you like riding him in the ball.
Well, I'm sure we'll be seeing you again in w A and.
They're not too distant future.
Peter Dutton A bit of action politically you don't want to take Well, we'd love to see a photo, but hung in.
Yeah, thanks so much.
For joing it.
Thank you.
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