Abby Phillip joins Reshma for a conversation about what it really takes to stay grounded in a world that is loud, fast, and full of opinions. She shares the freedom she has found in not caring what other people think, why kindness has been her most effective rule for navigating institutions that were not built for her, and how she handles the people who try to torpedo her along the way. They also dig into Abby’s book A Dream Deferred and what Jesse Jackson’s legacy can teach us about connection, trust, and the future of American democracy.

Follow Abby Phillip on Instagram at @abbydphillip, and check out her new book A Dream Deferred: Jesse Jackson and the Fight for Black Political Power.

You can follow our host Reshma Saujanion Instagram at @reshmasaujani and on Substack. 

Stay up to date with Moms First (www.momsfirst.us) on Instagram at @momsfirstus and with Lemonada at  @LemonadaMedia. 

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Abby Phillip joins Reshma for a conversation about what it really takes to stay grounded in a world that is loud, fast, and full of opinions. She shares the freedom she has found in not caring what other people think, why kindness has been her most effective rule for navigating institutions that were not built for her, and how she handles the people who try to torpedo her along the way. They also dig into Abby&rsquo;s book A Dream Deferred and what Jesse Jackson&rsquo;s legacy can teach us about connection, trust, and the future of American democracy.
Follow Abby Phillip on Instagram at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/abbydphillip">@abbydphillip</a>, and check out her new book <a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250806314/adreamdeferred/">A Dream Deferred: Jesse Jackson and the Fight for Black Political Power.</a>
You can follow our host Reshma Saujani<a href="https://www.instagram.com/reshmasaujani/?hl=en"> </a>on Instagram at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/reshmasaujani/?hl=en">@reshmasaujani</a> and on <a href="http://reshmasaujani.substack.com">Substack.</a>&nbsp;
Stay up to date with Moms First (<a href="http://www.momsfirst.us">www.momsfirst.us</a>) on Instagram at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/momsfirstus/?hl=en">@momsfirstus</a> and with Lemonada at&nbsp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lemonadamedia/?hl=en">@LemonadaMedia</a>.&nbsp;
Thanks so much for listening to My So-Called Midlife. If you haven&rsquo;t yet, now is a great time to subscribe to Lemonada Premium. You&rsquo;ll get ad-free episodes and bonus content like me and Emily Oster talking about her thoughts on how often you should have sex. Just hit the 'subscribe' button on Apple Podcasts, or, for all other podcast apps head to<a href="http://lemonadapremium.com/"> lemonadapremium.com</a> to subscribe.&nbsp;
Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows:<a href="http://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors"> lemonadamedia.com/sponsors</a>
Get an exclusive 5% discount on NordProtect plans. Go to: <a href="https://nordprotect.com/midlife">https://nordprotect.com/midlife</a> and use the code midlife at checkout.
To follow along with a transcript, go to<a href="http://www.lemonadamedia.com/show/"> lemonadamedia.com/show/</a> shortly after the air date.

…Is this it? That’s the question our host Reshma Saujani asks herself daily. She’s the founder of two successful nonprofits, she’s married to a great guy, and she’s raising two beautiful children. She’s gotten everything she’s ever wanted, so why does she feel so unsatisfied? Is this a woman’s version of a midlife crisis? She’s determined to figure it out, and with the strength of her group chat behind her, she’s calling in reinforcements. From Julia Louis-Dreyfus and Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, to Emily Oster and Cheryl Strayed, to experts, friends, authors and more, Reshma’s going to help us all figure out how we stop trying to just get through this time of life… and actually start living it.

…Is this it? That’s the question our host Reshma Saujani asks herself daily. She’s the founder of two successful nonprofits, she’s married to a great guy, and she’s raising two beautiful children. She’s gotten everything she’s ever wanted, so why does she feel so unsatisfied? Is this a woman’s version of a midlife crisis? She’s determined to figure it out, and with the strength of her group chat behind her, she’s calling in reinforcements. From Julia Louis-Dreyfus and Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, to Emily Oster and Cheryl Strayed, to experts, friends, authors and more, Reshma’s going to help us all figure out how we stop trying to just get through this time of life… and actually start living it.

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