Reshma interviews former New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern live on stage about her new book, A Different Kind of Power! This thoughtful conversation covers Jacinda’s leadership style built on compassion and kindness, becoming a mom while in office, and how to navigate self-doubt and imposter syndrome without letting them define you. Plus, Jacinda discusses her difficult decision to resign at the height of her power and shares what’s giving her hope right now.

This program was recorded live at the Chicago Humanities 2025 Spring Festival on June 8, 2025.

Event produced by Jesse Swanson.

Associate produced by Nikki Konomos.

Event stage managed by Sophia Fishkins.

Event produced and mixed by Dan Glomski.

Follow Jacinda Ardern @jacindaardern on Instagram.

You can follow our host Reshma Saujanion Instagram at @reshmasaujani and on Substack. 

Stay up to date with Moms First (www.momsfirst.us) on Instagram at @momsfirstus and with Lemonada at  @LemonadaMedia. 

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Reshma interviews former New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern live on stage about her new book,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/744301/a-different-kind-of-power-by-jacinda-ardern/">A Different Kind of Power</a>! This thoughtful conversation covers Jacinda&rsquo;s leadership style built on compassion and kindness, becoming a mom while in office, and how to navigate self-doubt and imposter syndrome without letting them define you. Plus, Jacinda discusses her difficult decision to resign at the height of her power and shares what&rsquo;s giving her hope right now.
This program was recorded live at the Chicago Humanities 2025 Spring Festival on June 8, 2025.
Event produced by Jesse Swanson.
Associate produced by Nikki Konomos.
Event stage managed by Sophia Fishkins.
Event produced and mixed by Dan Glomski.
Follow Jacinda Ardern <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jacindaardern/?hl=en">@jacindaardern</a> on Instagram.
You can follow our host Reshma Saujani<a href="https://www.instagram.com/reshmasaujani/?hl=en"> </a>on Instagram at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/reshmasaujani/?hl=en">@reshmasaujani</a> and on <a href="http://reshmasaujani.substack.com">Substack.</a>&nbsp;
Stay up to date with Moms First (<a href="http://www.momsfirst.us">www.momsfirst.us</a>) on Instagram at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/momsfirstus/?hl=en">@momsfirstus</a> and with Lemonada at&nbsp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lemonadamedia/?hl=en">@LemonadaMedia</a>.&nbsp;
Thanks so much for listening to My So-Called Midlife. If you haven&rsquo;t yet, now is a great time to subscribe to Lemonada Premium. You&rsquo;ll get ad-free episodes and bonus content like me and Emily Oster talking about her thoughts on how often you should have sex. Just hit the 'subscribe' button on Apple Podcasts, or, for all other podcast apps head to<a href="http://lemonadapremium.com/"> lemonadapremium.com</a> to subscribe.&nbsp;
Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows:<a href="http://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors"> lemonadamedia.com/sponsors</a>
To follow along with a transcript, go to<a href="http://www.lemonadamedia.com/show/"> lemonadamedia.com/show/</a> shortly after the air date.

…Is this it? That’s the question our host Reshma Saujani asks herself daily. She’s the founder of two successful nonprofits, she’s married to a great guy, and she’s raising two beautiful children. She’s gotten everything she’s ever wanted, so why does she feel so unsatisfied? Is this a woman’s version of a midlife crisis? She’s determined to figure it out, and with the strength of her group chat behind her, she’s calling in reinforcements. From Julia Louis-Dreyfus and Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, to Emily Oster and Cheryl Strayed, to experts, friends, authors and more, Reshma’s going to help us all figure out how we stop trying to just get through this time of life… and actually start living it.

…Is this it? That’s the question our host Reshma Saujani asks herself daily. She’s the founder of two successful nonprofits, she’s married to a great guy, and she’s raising two beautiful children. She’s gotten everything she’s ever wanted, so why does she feel so unsatisfied? Is this a woman’s version of a midlife crisis? She’s determined to figure it out, and with the strength of her group chat behind her, she’s calling in reinforcements. From Julia Louis-Dreyfus and Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, to Emily Oster and Cheryl Strayed, to experts, friends, authors and more, Reshma’s going to help us all figure out how we stop trying to just get through this time of life… and actually start living it.