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And I thought it wouldn't know why he got double right, No, that's because he's stuttered and he would always say things twice. Are you serious? No, I just made it. But but wouldn't that be fun if that's why you did it? Yeah, that would be amazing. That would have been an amazing area. I would wouldn't that being cool with Ron? I was always like, man, I'd be saying stuff twice? So did you take that to the Barkner Shop Tomorrow's racist money stuff? I can't tell me? Yes, sir, there it is Welcome back to another week of my Mama told me the podcast where we got deep, deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories and we weren't to prove that Vince Staples is in fact heir to the Staples stationers store fortune. It is a black owned company, y'all. How do you think he takes so much time off music and still has all that money? Also? Why is sprite so expensive in there? You tell me whoa Well, you're coming in with with two heavy things that that I think are worth discussing. Number one, This starts to make me think maybe that's the reason they replace the Staples Center. Do you know what I mean? That? Like that the the Lord, the patriarch of the Staples family might be on a deathbed. He might get his way out of here. They don't want Vince Staples to come in and make the Staples Centers what we want it to be. What it's always been meant to be, so they it's always been meant to be black owned. It's always it was always meant to be black owned. It was there was supposed to be incense and dar chikis and come on, I never you know what, I didn't believe you, but I was gonna go with it because I'm in this one. Vince Staples was gonna take that ship over and they couldn't have that, so they sold it off. Vince Stapless, Lord Staples, first of his name. No, they couldn't handle it, so they sold our ship off. And then on top of that, they made sprite the most expensive sprite can be Staples. One time, it was like yeah, no, they're They're like, hey, we are charging the fuck if you want sprite that bad to buy it at his Staples, you are paying Hawaiian prices. Yeah, what am I going to know? You know what I mean? You know what I'm getting. It's green. You know, I'm thirsty as funk if I'm buying it here, And yeah, I have no other choice, Staples, I'm out of options, So yeah, i'll pay. I'll pay a surcharge for that ship. I'll away. You know, you know who is probably much more thoughtful about all of her her things, besides accusing than Staples of somehow sitting on billions of secret dollars that he can't access. Is our guest today. I think she She seems like a much more reasonable, much more well well considered person. She she is a podcaster, she's a journalist, a culture critic, she's an executive producer. At my heart, she she does it all. And she just so happens to be the sister, the older sister of our our very beloved editor for this show, a man, a man who we respect dearly. And Cherry, I know you were just trying to play him out not five minutes ago. Sure, I told him he looked like a cop. But you say that, you say that, sans Beard with a part in your head. That's a bold statement. Buddy. I'm lashing out. They made me look ridiculous, and I'm just trying to hurt the people closest to me. We love Justin. He does phenomenal word and we couldn't be more excited than his sister, but a much, a much, very talented person outside of just his sister. She's joining us today. Please give it up for our guests, Miss Joel Monique. I think I'm looking forward to cracking up. I hope I can, like you, totally crack up. So I haven't like totally cracked up in a long time. Yeah, that's how we do. Intros around here. Are welcome. Hey, thanks so much for having me. I feel kind of great. You guys are like she, She seems like he has your ship together. It means whatever I'm projecting is working. The lies out there, strong and going. This is totally a together woman to us. We love it. We're impressed over this one. Yeah, you impressed. This whole part perfect. Perfect. So you came to us with a conspiracy theory. I'm very excited to jump into this. You came to us with the conspiracy theory that I feel like I've heard versions of, but never quite this specifically phrase you said, My mama told me if you cut a girl's here before her first birthday, she'll be cursed with bad here. Yes, yes, I loves everything. I like. Every culture has a version of this story. I used to work at a children's hair salon, and like the northern part of Chicago, so you know, like all these rich kids come in and get their hair cut. But it's like it was a Diasti in Chicago, so you know, the Diastera is very mixed and blended. And there was a lot of concern about like is it time to cut my daughter's hair. If I cut it, well I ruin it, which is a ridiculous. We could just up front said it's a ridiculous statement, like and it changes every seven years. There's a way changes every seven years. Okay, as you evolve and grow. There's at no point in time will cutting your hair affect how it comes out of your head. However, the superstition is really strong. Moms particularly really freak out about it. They want their girls to have I think in the black community it's all about curl pattern and jacking that up too early, that you've got that lovely baby hair when you're little. They want to keep that intact into your older ages as long as possible. So don't cut it. Do you cut it? How short? All of that like, it has real importance. I remember in the white community, we would not like cut girl's hair until they're like four or five. Typically like you got a haircut way later if you're a white little girl, which I always found very interesting. They were not keep so so for the black parents that they were more often cutting the girl's hair early, just not at one, so like at three they're coming in cutting yeah, two or three, like let's keep it even, you know, especially as the natural came into popularity again, we're seeing like, let's make sure the frozen not to uneven. Can't we just either that or they were taking them to a braider and be like, let's just keep this braided up and going. We'll just trim the ends, get you that long hair by the time you hit first grade. These are the poles. I feel like for most people, well, you already debunked it because I was like, oh, this is for sure true. I was about you didn't you didn't say in the least bit, uh, fully on board with the premise, And then Joel was like, I I don't believe any of this and it's nonsense. I was. I thought I was totally true because I had like, not me, I, but my little brothers they have nicer hair than me, and that we didn't cut their until they were like three or four, And I guess I always thought that there was something I don't know in my head. It's like something like you gotta grow into it first before you let it reset or something. I don't have any science on this, but that is I never heard that seven years ship ever, I believe it. I'm just saying I never had heard that was the first for me, and I I also was like seven years. I didn't read none about those seven years, but you seemed very confident, and in that way, I was gonna nod through it. I would again, I would say, just it'sfore I would say my purview is specifically for a class of people that do not mind spending like twenty to sixty dollars on their child's hair cut. It's not a green eclipse where you're just like shearing children. They were like, we need trendy styles and like okay. So for white little girls, it was like the classic Bob Like they would come in, they'd have their long hair their whole lives. They've been growing out since babies, and when they hit like between first and third grade, suddenly as like a sign of maturity or like a year older now, or maybe mom's just tired of doing the hair. Whatever the reason, they came in and they got the same like under the ear tucked bob all of them. It was like a standard for like two of my like stylist when I was working at the salon. So I just think that, like, you know, okay, for in the white community, it's all about like their girls tend to be blonde for longer. It was like, just let's have this long, blonde, shining hair going around with your little When you're older, you could start taking care of your own hair, will do a big chop, You're good to go. For black girls, I felt like it's a lot about just curl pattern and keeping that consistent as they grow up and giving them more options with their hair as they're older. I think there's a lot of fear of some how damaging it so they won't be able to write natural, or they'll only be able to wear it straight or whatever. There's so much anxiety about how our hair is going to come out of our heads, how we'll be perceived for that. Well, I guess that's that's one of the questions that it's sort of like is leading me to, is how much of this do you feel like it's just some weird internalized racism, do you know what I mean that? Like, some of it almost reads like that we can only be pure at a certain point, and if we somehow unleash ourselves of this purity, we we become less good for the white man and his appearances and expectations whatever the fun. I think it's a heavy dose of racism and misogyny. Right. So I was talking to somebody who just had a baby girl, and she was all excited, and every time she told people she was pregnant with a girl, they would be like, I'm so sorry. Girls are terrible, so difficult. She's gonna steal your beauty, She'll steal your day, right. I think, even if it's not misogynistic, that's a pretty crazy thing to say to somebody that this baby is is gonna fucking maleficent you your youth in six to nine months. Face. I mean that is And I think like some people feel like in competition with their daughters, they're like, oh, now she's beautiful, and she's like, you know, got the lime white for whatever he's It's a very weird attitude for people to take on that we've seen it and it's weird and I think in real life. But then on the flip side is that you have a lot of moms who sort of live curiously through their daughters and their beauty and they're like, I have the most beautiful daughter and my friend group she's she's marrying. She's like, look at these guys that are after her, like literally showing us like recently head dinner with my mom and a bunch of her friends. Um, like this feels very Yeah, she's wearing a green shirt. She keeps asking where is the bathroom? But she doesn't get up to use the bathroom. But I think that there's a lot to be said about like the fear around like is your daughter gonna be so beautiful that it's going to be a problem. Is your daughter going to be more beautiful than you? Is your daughter going to be accepted? Period? Around like their hair? And then like that's one of the first major decisions you make as a parent, right, like what are we Like we got their clothes, their room is kind of set up, They've gotten all their shots and doctors stuff, Like a lot of the big scary stuff is out of the way. But then it's like when do we cut their hair? And here is so personal to us, Like do you all remember your first haircut or did your parents take video of it at all? I I don't remember. America's funniest no, we did not have was a lot. I worked out we would do a first haircut package where we would like film it. Of course, now your parents have like cellphones and stuff, but I think even back in the day, you would have people coming like film it, like it's a momentous occasion, like this is the very first time, and some really traumatic experience is connected to that. I don't know that that was treated that way in my home, but maybe that's just because my parents are who they are. But I can't imagine it was even like I I can't imagine my hair ever got even that one. I I bet it was pretty young I got my first one. I think I similarly don't know that my hair got like crazy long, but it probably like was throwed out when I was like a baby and a kid from my I remember specifically asking my mom because my mom used to cut my hair and I thought she was good at it, but it turns out who she wasn't. She got outside The first haircut I remember is asking my mom for a Michael Jordan's haircut. I wanted to look like Michael Jordan's because I'm a kid in Chicago. I wanted to be bald like Michael Jordan's because I was. It was, it wasn't crazy. There were people doing the thing, you know what I mean. I I said, give me the Michael Jordan's. She was like, I don't think you want the Michael Jordan. I was like, give me that goddamn Michael Jordan's Michael Jordan, swear to God. And she finally gave me what. What was her negotiation with the baldy. She just like buzzed it super low and I cried for it was the worst choice I could have made, was was having that. Of course they did look at this, this bald scalp and not slap the ship out of it. I remember. I remember my mom cut my hair for a long time too, and she gave me a part one. Speaking of parts, she gave me a man. It was. It was. It wasn't that she gave me the double and it didn't work. And I thought it worked okay, And then I got to the Boys and Girls Club and they went in it was a yeah, that's tough man hair that we sell that to say, Joel, hair, to your point is a very precious thing for everyone in a way that it does feel like at the point that my hair becomes fucked up, I would want to be able to blame something grander than myself that like maybe my parents did a horrible thing to me at one that made my hair turn terrible, instead of just admitting like, oh, I don't know how to take care of my ship right right, And then I think about too, Like so I feel like if you get a kid on the spectrum, like getting a haircut can be like super intimidating, or if you're just a kid who's like, this is a new experience, I have anxiety. If you're just a child with anxiety coming in to get your hair cut, like all of it is just like a very intense emotional experience for a lot of people, not everyone, but for a lot of people. And I think that there's this feeling that if you at least wait until they're after one, you know their heads the right shape that's pretty much gonna be growing up. You can like get the haircut to match how they look, you know a little bit more about their personality that we can match that up a little bit. Yeah, some plates ain't finished shifting, so we we probably clippers. What have you pressed the clippers into the gooey spot? Now? Now my baby broken because you because you wanted to give him a ball fade. That's how That's how a beautiful mind happened. All right, I think I think we gotta take a break. We'll be back with more. Joe l morn more. My mama told me, put tam welcome back to My mama told me. We are discussing whether or not the gooey spot gives you mental powers. No, I'm just kidding. It's not even called the gooey spot. You gotta press, you gotta press a certain like code into it, Like it's like I'm down. N If you hit that gooy spot the right way, you're gonna be strong. You put the Konami code on that gooey spot, you're gonna raise the savage. No. I was just thinking about this because now I'm realizing I'm listening to all this talk about children in their hair and how little autonomy I've ever had over my hair that I never chose my haircuts as a kid. I mean I could choose like if I wanted a part or not. But other than that, like the idea of like long hair or something. Never like you couldn't come home and be like mom, I'm getting braids now. No, it was like because my mom's super African twotors like vasily on the face, short haircut. Okay, okay, I feel the same way. And as one of you, it's like a black pant thing like for me, it was immediately perm like relaxer at four or five, the kids relaxed, remember the kids. For me was actually on that boxes a little boy. I believe it simply. Although I said that wh all those girls came out and they were like, never used a relaxer, no black to winter. A bunch of the little girl models are now adult women, and all of them were talking about how they had never had to relax there in their entire life and that they were just Harald dude, dude, I know I need to get to these niggas on the three sixties styling box. They're just peeling bad wigs. Those guys looked amazing, do you remember them. I will say this that now having been on enough sets where like a barber comes in with that that spray. Yeah, but when they're using it for for justice and not for like weird evil, they can make YO ship look sharp than a motherfucker. I was on I'm gonna tell I'll tell you guys the truth. We're friends. I was on a TBS show. They geemed up. I felt incredible. Yeah, it's a wild power that they can employ if they do it the right way and even the wrong way. Jalen Real looks great. No, but Jalen Rose is doing it the most evil way possible. He I just think he truly is making us believe that barbers have that potential to like to never let our line ever come out of place ever. And the truth is we are vulnerable, we are human, and Jalen Roses is on some weird we are I hear what you're saying. I love a dude. I love a black dude with hair that looks wet. I think it's so cool. I think it's so cool. I always from Jerry girl, Like, I don't know what of the aspirations were kept. Okay, all right, Joel, were you allowed to choose your hair after you said perm immediately. But at what point were you able to like assert a little dominance over this. When I was seventeen and I cut it all off, I pulled a willow. Much later in life, I was like, you know, I'm cutting it all, all of it off. I really wanted to go natural because I'm a I'm a lazy girl. Like if you have relaxed hair, you can't be lazy. You gotta get up in the morning, like you can never step out in the rain. You gotta be worried about humidity. When I was living in Chicago, it's too many things to constantly be worried about if you have your hair relaxed. And I wasn't good at doing the hair wraps yet, so I was like, I just gonna cut it all off and go natural. And when I learned you could just do a wash and goal, I was like, is this heaven? This is what life was really? If you lived like you should just be able to wrench your hair out and throw some products and walk out the door. So did you cut it and then just show up bald headed at home or did you like notify everybody to be like, hey, this decision, this is what I want here we go somewhere in the middle. So I would go to my mom's stylist growing up. So I got that first, like relax or that was at my mom's hair swan and we would go, you know, every six months to a year, depending on how good financially the year was going. And so I went in and they were like the usual, and I was like, no, cut it out off, like your mom knows this, like sure, does it totally fine? Cut it off? She thought it was can't worked out. She was like, oh okay, I see what you're going for. She would have never allowed it. How all the way off we talk, they had these clippers, which was a shock. They're like okay, were like shaving the backs and it was like do you remember when Rihanna did the Umbrella video and it was like long and and really typed the back. It was that, okay, okay, that's a good look. Yeah it word. I like it. I remember the I was like, these guys win know, they're kind of suits of Rihanna. I'm a big fan. Are you all excited for the NFL the Super Bowl show? I am excited for this impowl on Rihanna both they have all kind of prop bets for the halftime show. Yeah, like how many people should bring out and that I want her to bring out like a hundred people like she did for that BT Awards show. Yes, I like, this is the dopeest thing I've ever seen in life. Yeah, my wife and not talked about it all the time that Rihanna. I would much rather see Rihanna in concert than most people, just because it feels like a friend is performing, Like she kind of feels like Rihanna. Yeah, like she seems like a home girl more than like like Beyonce. It feels like if you walk in a room with Beyonce, you don't even do like you don't you can't have a regular conversation with that. The same way about Rihanna, though, I don't think she's gonna see me and be like, oh, do you want to smoke a punt with me? Have you seen Rihanna's team? Though, David, Rihanna loves a real person like Rihanna, like all of her people are like homies from way back in the day. I feel like you could like walk up to Anna and at the very least she would meet you at a let me see who this person is. Let me just check you out if you pass the test, need to hang if I I think if I told I think if I told Rihanna my booty hole itches, she would laugh and we would have a good time. That's your open That's how I start. That's how I start. What you welk up to rio up, Rihanna, Rihanna, I don't have anybody else I could tell with my bootio it's just like a motherfucker. And then she gonna go, man, you're crazy, come on, let's get a drink o. Man. Man, that's the gream. I think. I think she's a silly billy at heart, and I think you're like I would love for it to go that way for you. I don't think it would go that way for me. The same Awards show, Hey girl body and he's like security. They would already be on me from the first day. He saw me coming from across, they saw me leave the stable, they didn't clock me. I love the idea that you don't even get it out because securities tackled my booty all in chase. Please just let me go on my body And then as they're taking me on, I'm remember me, Oh my god, all right, let's jump into this research, because this is general tom foolery here. I did look it up, and Joel, you are absolutely correct that there is no real core relation between cutting a child's hair at any point and their hair quote unquote becoming bad. That is a myth. Yes, I know that somebody who was terrified to cut her hair my whole life. They're like, it won't grow right, or you have to cut with the curl pattern. And by the time the pandemic came out without like a pair of my own sister. So I was like, let's just do this hair. It'll grow back. I'm tired of being afraid of it. Uh yeah, No, you could. However, you touch your hair, eventually it'll just come back out of the scalp like it normally would. Yes, now they do scout. Okay, because I knew you were going to bring this up. If I imagine you're about to bring up the fact that they tell you to like shave your facial hair to make it grow back thicker and or more effective, I'm bringing up you know how much Jamaican black cast Royal I had to purchase to give this ship to connect mm. This is like you think that this is how it started. No, no, no, this is years of like staying on top of it. Now here's what I'll tell you, And I'm curious to hear both of your thoughts on this. What research would say is that that is simply time and genetics that major ship connect much more than it was the connected no length, it was hard worth soil is the truth. So I'm gonna go with David on this one. So you were you were, I got a beard at nine team that she didn't connect till are you hearing what I'm saying? Actually a moment ago and now you're going with this motherfucker some thousands and change. It's amazing, like like it pulls it a little. The hairline, I'm frond, which is really nice for me. You know, it's a little bitner. It's like, you know, you making black castro oil. So I mean the hair is more luges, it's growing better. It's I'm not belittling the product. I'm just saying it sounds like that it's not miracle grow. You're not chia pets. It's it's your genetics changing over time that made your beard connects. Why would my genetics change the clothes It is. It doesn't sense. It doesn't even make sense. I'm saying that that it is the the your body evolving. It's not the genetics my body evolving. What are you talking about? Body evolving? You dug your heels in in a way that this is this conversation. Wouldn't you ever work because you'd be a nuts you know, you know how I got a beard. I got a beard from Jamaican black castor oil. That's how I did it. I'm not, I'm not. This is insane what you're saying to me, Jete. There's no genetic reason that it would feel in late. It's the same reason that that you you didn't start off with the motherfucker filled in you. Yeah, that was testosterone and puberty and ship. Your testosterone levels change more as you get older. Alright, I'm saying. I'm like maying, the closure happened because I couldn't work, because you read this for the top of that and you over it. You held it up to the moon light. Don't make me a pagan. It's the Jamaicans, the black castroil, because what did it? I'm searching and trying to figure out. I used to have to go and the barber would be like, you want me to just cut this little bit off here, and I'd be like, yeah, you might as well. And then I found black castroil and it filled my ship in. Man. It's like, I'm a testament why you have a superior here, David. It worked and we can all thank you. Man. This guy's what we're here trying to say. Because my body's giving out. Well, let me say praise job. We we thank him every day for his contributions to your beard. You are bad, bad, I'm but but but but as they say, and uh, we're all super grateful for your for your perfect castor oil beard. Uh. I did bump into some other sort of like conspiracies arguments inside of this, uh that the hair grows back thicker when you cut it over time, which is also apparently not true. They do say that basically cutting baby hair, because most children's hair is that new hair for like the first six months, that even cutting a baby's hair in the first year is often it was hair that was already gonna kind of fall out on its own, So you're really just playing with like some temporary ass hairs in the first place. And I think this is really like mom's lamenting the fact that their children don't have like that brand new baby. Yeah, you know, moms were like all of a sudden, they're like, I just hold you here, and how you're like to if you're like walking and everything is like a just it's not the same as it was, and that induces some level of like panic of like time passing by too quickly or something like that. I really feel like a lot of people, like you want to hold onto the baby years as much as possible, So really don't cut that hair because that will be the thing that instigates change faster. Yeah, A part of me wondered, and I'd be curious to hear both your thoughts on this. A part of me wondered if this connects back to some slavery ship, just that you know, they used to shave slaves upon sort of like receipt of them or or exchange of them, they'd shave them, or or often catching them. They'd shave them to avoid like you know, lice and fucking other things that were potentially going to be carried in the hair. Also, you didn't give a funk about them as humans, so like you do whatever you want to them. That said, it's like if if you had a generation of children who were then shaved, you are going to make generations after of people who cherish hair in a way that you can't undo. If that makes sense totally. I have to think about like a lot of the laws in surround, like post Slavery two around black women in hair. Like we know in Louisiana there was a law that all black women had to cover their hair because white women were like, your their hairs fire and we're jealous, so please cover that ship. We don't want to see it. And even into today we see a lot of how you know, schools like to police black children's hairstyles, which is irritating. I don't know if this necessarily for like children goes back. I mean, how much control did we have over our babies in their hair even back then. I don't know. I can't imagine they were like, all right, you cut your hair, but the baby can't have pigtails. Like everybody, everybody's ugly over here as far as workingcerned, so cut it. Yeah, Yeah, we really don't care about your style personally otherwise. Yeah. The the other piece of research that that I sort of found myself bumping into was that there's a bunch of other weird ass conspiracies that people around, with, none of which being that eating carrots or the heels of bread will make your child's hair curly? Have either of you heard that conspiracy? Mean the heels of bread will make your chick That was invented by a grandfather who was like, why do we always have a heal of bread around the house? You want your child, that baby, beautiful hair, eat this heel of bread. Okay, me out of my house. He's like, he's like, we're not throwing away to booty bread. I like the booty bread bird. I don't even you like the heel of the bread. I don't like a sandwich. I don't like it for a sandwich. No, nor what I think it's better as like toast or like if you sometimes, and maybe this is just a bad eaters decision making, but sometimes you just eat a piece of bread and I heal the heal bread. That ship tastes good when you just eat a piece of bread, like no heat, just naked bread. Yeah, you just pick out a piece of bread and you go to town on that motherfucker. I've never been so hungry. Different do you put stuff on it. No, sometimes I just fold it up. We do a whole wat over at my house now. But but I've done it with wonder Bread. I've done it with all the breads wonder Bread. Yun, if we're listen, I'm comfortable about saying I'm comfortable being the only one on this on this eating bread by itself. I got a little bimbo soft white right off camera. But yeah, I'm not gonna hear any disrespect for the wonder Bread. Wonder Bread did a lot of good stuff for for a lot of dead down in World War Definitely got us. Yeah, it's the best for peanut butter and jelly. Actually, you if you you're telling me that if you had to make like a craft grilled cheese that you wouldn't prefer wonder Bread for that, I would never make a craft grilled cheese, because craft that's just like a sour dough with like some monster cheese. Maybe you know, Joe, Well, I didn't know your one percent. I thought I thought it was mink that I was born to be budge. Okay, my mom said French names, so other people like her, and she'll be Bougee and like fancy ship and I do. I thought she went by Joel Monique, But you are Joel's space x Monique. As far as I'm oh, you don't. Never. You never got down on the craft singles the shows when I didn't have the option to buy my own groceries. Yes, I ate a craft singles geese sandwich, and I thought it was fine. I also ate my little Campbell soup and it was good too. But now I have options. Okay, alive in California. We're the best damn farmers. I gotta love a farmer's market. There's a little French stand that tells you like the salury dough bread and the circular wolf are great. I whoa, those are thick butts. I can eat all that. But last episode, the last episode, that's a little that's a little Easter egg for whoever did But no, I I look. I I am in no way suggesting that you can only eat a grilled cheese that way, or there aren't better ways of experiencing these things, or healthier ways rather. But I will say that there's no part of me that wants to run away from those roots that form the individual I am, and and God do I owe a lot to a wonder bread as grilled cheese sandwich. Yeah, you know, the butterness for the choice in my in my household. Sometimes I'll see the little blue and white checker packaging and I'll get a little nostalgic for my childhood sugartoast and ship we were or or are weeds good? Yeah? An one that's pretty tasty too. I I will say that I don't There is no evidence of carrots and or booty bread being a source of making your hair curly. Again, genetics is the thing that often does it. They do say that eating healthier does lead to like healthier hair, But I think that's like in the way that like all things in our body are sort of symbiotic in that way that like, if you put better foods in your body, all your ship's gonna work better than it would have worked if you ate fucking like you know, dirt checks out. Do you want to come see my mama told me why at the Allegian Theater on February six. But you don't live in Los Angeles? Have we got an offer for you? We're live streaming it via moment House. We're doing Q and as you can see me, you can see Langston tell him about please purchase tickets at moment dot c O slash. My mama told me again February six at the Alician Theater, but in your homes for the live stream or the next five days after. So by those tickets. My personal favorite conspiracy that I I came across and looking up all this hairship is a theory that people say you should wash your child's hair until it squeaks. Hence the name or the the phrase squeaky clean. Now that's connected to slavery. WHOA, that's say more. Yeah, I don't know, so I trying to remember the James Baldwin quote. I'll paraphrase it. There's a lot of thought, and you can see in old advertising that black was dirty and particularly post slavery. Right when we're like pre Jim Crow, we're really working to assimilate and engage in like society. And the thing Robin told us like you're dirty, you're disgusting. You can be porters, you can raise chickens, but that's it. These are the lanes will allow you to occupy slavery. And so we see going past that into Jim Crow and beyond there's this fear that if we are not christinely clean, then we can be observed as being dirty and filthy, and that will hold you and possibly the entire race back, because you know, one of us equals all of us. So I really think that, like the idea of needing to be perfectly polished is a reaction to how we were treated post slavery. I will say, and I don't want to bring up the specifics because I don't want to incriminate anybody. I was recently in a conversation about who we thought the cleanest race was. Who did you? Did y'all land on a on a agreed race? Black people were the cleanest. And I'm not gonna go down the list because you have to tell me. You have to tell me if you're a cop. That's to day. But we definitely getting a heated, heated debate about, Yeah, who do you think is the cleanest race? I know Black people are the cleanest because of the way the Internet reacts any time we talk about just washing a leg, Yes, let water roll down your body, Like what? And it's like, who told you that? Who didn't you? Did you? How did you? Is this strange to ask? How did you learn how to wash. I don't think that's strange to ask at all, Like I mean, I don't know, like my mom showing me how to watch it was like a game like oh, get you get the wash cloth and then you rub it up and you get it sofy, and you rub here and rub here. Yeah, there was a checklist when you got out of the shower. Did you you rush your teeth? Let me really, yes, yes, yeah I did. Yeah. No. I think it was similar where you know, bathtimes, somebody is like, hey, have fun, but you know, let's get serious about we're in here to work to did but we gotta win, you know. But it is that's fucking terrifying. The idea of I didn't even know hair could squeak, if I'm being honest, that you would wash it to the point that it would make a a noise. I did think maybe that was a white thing. So I was surprised to hear you, Joel say it's a slave thing. Although I believe you because I don't know if black people ever said squeaky clean. But the idea that you know that level of cleanliness, I think it's definitely a thread that runs in the black community. But yeah, I thought white people's hair was the only one that could even possibly squeak, can squeak? That would be impressive. I think if you had like a sponge and you rubbed it sharply across a white lady's hair laying down, it might make like almost go do you mean like a Jennifer Anista white lady? Though? Like it's got a who's Like if you rub a sponge across Gwyneth Paltrow's hair, it'll play like a fucking harp, you know what I mean? Like it it'll squeak out if you play it backwards. It tells you to whip the devil. Oh, it's a devil heart. Let's be clear, it ain't this is This isn't a heart made by no angels that made the doubles hard. This is a fallen angel ass heart that we're listening to. But it is a heart. Oh man. Yeah. I even the the idea of washing hair that often feels like a white thing. I know that most black people do not wash their hair every day. That that isn't a thing much. It's crazy, right, So you you build up oils and of differently. I I don't wash my hair. I just use nuts and berries from the forest. But how I actually do wash my hair every day. But I think it's because I have a white father who gave me or at least scalp like wash every single day. I think I got like white people oil and condition. Yeah, I try to condition it. Wow, what happens if you don't? Have you ever just tried to be like I'm rugged. No, just be like taky and fucking you know what I mean? Like white people have to wash it every day because then they're like, how straight is your hair? I wonder it's not it's very is your growing your hair out? Linswers it's been. Yeah. I've had braids multiple times in my life, and there's no need for us to discuss that anymore. Find pictures, send them to maybe. How about you mind your goddamn business. How about that? You remember Lloyd? I bet you had braids like Lloyd. Yeah, if you shut your ring this outside, maybe we can go highs. Go ahead, my neck. That was even my Lloyd go to I sure you want to get a charty man? Oh no, I like the smooth Lloyd. Okay, okay, and push you a weight on it. That's what I was into. Joel, what are we talking for you watching your hair? How how often are we talking? And I have a d D. I can barely keep track of what's happening moment to moment. Uh, I know, I just feel it doesn't need to be watched, is it? Girls? I would say probably, I would never let more than two weeks go by the same. Yeah, But I got like I got that, Like I got like a conditioner situation. So I like, I wash it and then I leave the conditioner and oh, yeah, you got to That's how you got it, like really set in cooking there and you wrap it up in the towels so you get the heat in there. Then you do like frants. I just wash it and rinse it and then put the conditioner in and rinse that out and I go about my day. But you don't use a two in one. I could see being a two in one I have, I don't do it currently, But don't use the three in one though. That's the is not like Irish string. No, I don't know. I've seen it. It's like on the bottom step at Walgreen's. But they definitely have three in one where it's like you can't tell me I'm going to use the same liquid to get all this stuff the way it needs to get l coming out of that shower. Let me tell you both, I've listened, and uh, if they add, I'll try. Here's a foreign one. I'm about to brush my teeth with it. It's a conditioner or a shampoo. It's a body wash, and it's a thick mouth wash. It's well, I think we did it. I think we know. Yeah, Joel, could you tell the people where they can find you and what cool ship you have going on? Yeah, you can find me all over the internet. Actual, Monique, it's j L E l L E M l N i Q. You have a newsletter coming out hopefully soon, going to talk some black history months movies. He should be watching underrated and you know also about The Last of Us, which I am just obsessed with. So good show funk it's so good. Okay, I can't, I can't. It's like an underrated black movie you should watch. Yes, I'm probably just gonna watch Hoodlum every day, but I need something that. It's on YouTube. It's from the Harlem Renaissance and there was just Battie. She was the like hottest woman in Harlem or something. They called it Red Fox. Red Fox is Domino is playing a character named Domino. I mean, yeah, okay, most beautiful woman Hollywood. Sorry Harlem. Francine Everett was her name and the name of the movie. I'm excited. It's cool to see like Harlem Renaissance movies because these are like the first black portrayals, are just like regular as black life. And if you want to see older movies that are not tragedy porn but like actually about lived experiences, that's the way to go. It's so good. Lost Boundaries is a movie she did that I highly recommend, and I think you can find it on YouTube. I think the whole movie is They're also dirty girty from Harlem is a lot of funny about this. Hey go watch two can play that game? That also is underrated as far as I'm concerned. Love of Basketball perfect, Oh yeah, we'll get the Criterion Collection version. It's good. Love that movie. And hell yeah, Bory, could you tell the people where they can find you? Yeah, you can find me a cool guy jokes eighties seven on Instagram. You can come to see our show February sixteen at the Allegian Theater February seventeenth. You can come see Hi No Comedy Denver headliner Katrina Davis. 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