If I don't like his barber, he's fifty at least. But you know what's funny is my barber is actually the youngest one in in that little group of men. Know. But but he's he's worn. He's worn long and hard. You know what I mean. That saddles being on the dusty road for a while. Racists, money stuff, I can't tell me. Bang bang bang skeep skeep skeet. There it is, there is. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama to Old Me, the podcast where we dive deep into the pockets of black conspiracy and we finally worked to prove that the L in Samuel L. Jackson stands for loud. Samuel Loud Jackson. That motherfucker be yelling and it works, you know, undeniably the best yeller in all of Hollywood. I would say, I really, I don't like it when he doesn't yell. That's when I get upset. Wyatt, Samuel Loud Jackson, nohing, no, gross, it's not Samuel P. Jackson. Like. I like a good escalation though, right He's like yeah, yeah. He starts off cool and he's asking questions that make you uncomfortable and then he's screaming at you. Yeah, he's like a stepdad, get out of my room, saying that's a tasty burger. Well, I'm one of your host Langston German. I'm the other one, David Bory. Hell yeah, we we you've already heard our guests today. We're so excited that he's here. He's he's a returning and all star of the show. And we reached RuPaul drag Race level quality where we can start calling motherfucker's all start. I guess, So, I guess. I guess. Not only do we have all suf but we also have we're a little gay and that's exciting. And and our guests today, I don't know that he's gay, but he is spectacular and you can be both. And I believe that that's something that I I personally believe, and I'm gonna run on that when I become president. But he's he's amazing. He you know him from his work on on south Side. He is both a performer and writer on south Side. You know him from from his work on thrown Ish. You know him from his work a bunch of other shows that he probably would tell me to shut the funk up about if I brought them up. Uh, he's so funny. Please give it up for our guest, Mr will Mile oh Ship. Yeah yeah fu Yeah what was that clip from? I need to more general? I think he's talking about the U R. Gay part. I don't know where any of these come from. I think I think it is in the middle of a Beanie Man song. It's a kind of a Mr. Vegas situation. That's like, uh, when you go to Morehouse in the Jamaican Like there's an e gag Jamaican kids and you see his dad finally find out. Oh that's amazing. Yeah, tell us more about more House, oh man, and Jamaican's. Jamaican's do not like homosexuality. Yeah they're not, weren't in that way, but in both you know, Like, I'm not saying all Jamaicans do this, but at least as many as I've met so far. For you for holding out hope that you're going to meet the first tolerant in Jamaican not me, I for one, think that the Jamaicans are a vastly diverse tapestry and enjoy all types of sexuality about to included. I think that's hopeful thinking. I think many of them are semful, like many of them are obviously, I don't think a lot of the elders, as they say, enjoy knowing this stuff. Yeah, I think they They are a diverse tapestry of homophobes, and I personally, uh am excited to meet every flavor. I dated a lesbian girl once. Well, I dated a woman who is dating another woman. But before we started, while you were dating, that was you're gonna have Yeah, this is not a little bit more clearly than than you are currently. So one of my friends was dating this girl, but the girls Jamaican, and she was like, yeah, when we go out, you gotta go out with her, and I gotta just hang back so they can't know I'm gay. And then so I was like dating this girl for this other girl. Like it was looked like I was almost dating both of them at the time in these Jamaican clubs. But then eventually I started to fall in love with the Jamaican girl. Whoa that is actually that is yeh, there's more to I'm back inside of this. So you you start off as a reverse beard, it sounds like, yes in this situation, truly just just a a force field to keep these young ladies protected from the community at large that didn't like what was happening. But then you fall in love with this girl and then you and the girls start smashing. We did smash you, and then the other girl got pretty pissed, and sure that didn't I think when you're when the girl you you've been trusting with this third party steals. Yeah. I think I think we're not thinking Will was in the game exactly, and part of it is like it it is a little bit like, oh, you didn't think I could actually pull yeah in some respect. Yeah, on his thoughts, I think I could either sex times where you're having sex and you're like, I can't believe, like she initiated this. This is why that's I was just grabbing her hand to get some food or something and she sat down on me and started making it. I was like, this is unbelievable. WHOA, I never forget this and it was almost almost twenty years ago now and I've suddenly forgotten stuff. Yeah, this feels like two thousand and eight Ryan Reynolds film. Yeah, this is like pond Replay era, right before pond Replay. Okay, well, you guys listening to like a lot of Wayne Wonder, Yeah you know your young man? Yeah? No, not fun? And who else there was like Sean Kingston was kind of blowing up. Okay, is like oh oh five before ye can we I know we have stuff to talk about, but can we cast this movie right now? Real? First, I think we have to. I think that that would only be the only responsible choice that we could make in the side of this is casting. So who's Will? First of all great questions, who's the child star from Raven who was constantly fucked up? Now? Orlando Brown? This is is compact, this is okay, you trust when he's playing you? Are you a mad eagtioning? He got sober and healthy and then it's like, I'm ready to finally play the part of Will Miles. Yes. I feel like he watched his clips and was like, what the fund was? I? Yeah? What he did? He say? He fund any bow or something? He said a lot. I think he said he sucked Raven two, which we all know is probably not true. He said that he sucked Ravens titties. Let's I don't and and he made a lot of slurping noises in response to to whatever those were uh, and then very recently he said that did he gave him head, although he did not say it again similar slurping noises, but did he put it on him? I think he said yeah that yeah, exactly, and then he just went I feel like he said Drake got that good pussy or something along those lines. I think he said, bow wow, has that. I think Drake would be uh Drake's I think Drake would not be a giving lover. I think he would be a selfish lover. Whoa we all know whoa? This is some real heater ship whoa fish? Listen. I don't know a lot about about how Drake or anybody has sex, frankly, but I feel fairly certain that Drake is a pretty given lover. No. I bet it's like Gucci, Maine and spring Breakers. Fuck oh wow, what a reference. Yeah, he gives. He gives women birking bags after he smashes. Yeah, because because he didn't do anything before y'all are bugging. I think Drake's putting it down on these lamps was put down. He wouldn't give him ship but a fucking uber home. I think his whole thing is wanting to be love beyond that's the capacity that he is capable of being loved. So I think he does everything out of his way to eat you out for too long, to like dick you down as properly as possible, to send you home with goodies and treats, and why don't they ever last? Serena's with the Reddit guy because he has no capacity for it, because he has an unpacked whatever that that ship was with his mom in the first mixtape. But but more than anything, when she tried to run away from home, yeah, where she was like truly spiraling from whatever his we could all relate to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know who probably puts it on is comment. I bet he lays it down from the top ropes, right, because he's a he's gotta He's runs the game of the women too, where it's like a black woman, where it's common like he's calling him Joe. He does it with non Chicago women are like, what does that mean? He's like I explained, sister, but I come from we talk a little different. If you listen to come close, you know he's smashing correctly, Yeah, come close. He's an anthem. Yeah, common is. I think I think we can both agree I think Commons probably the lights kin hero as far as smashing goes with that, I think Commons probably putting it down. I think even Microsoft commercial common is still like hand common turtle neck Commons where he was truly like nailing it. Yeah, what about Newsboy hat Common? Yeah, that too was still I mean, you're drinking common on like Resurrection and all that he was not common sense was common sense, like I used to love her. Yeah. Where I think he started to fall off in terms of putting it down on on randall ladies is I think right around that time where he did that movie where he was like dating the white lady and dancing with his shirt off. Y'all remember that. Yeah, isn't that Anna or something? Yeah, he was like he was like paired across from some white woman. I can't even remember who it was all about Nina. Yeah, there you go. And it truly was like, Yo, he has no business in this film. This nig is from the South side of Chicago. What is happening? Don't put him in a box. No, he could do Microsoft, but he can't. It was more it was way more believable that he was smashing Queen the teeth a while yeah, it was more believable that he was an NBA player than it was that he was. That he was playing acoustic guitar and having checks with this white lady. How did she respond when he called her queen? Well he did me called her Joe too. She doesn't do it. Wait, so will Will is being played by Orlando Brown. We gotta finish casting this. Oh yeah, yeah, okay, what about Okay? So who's the girl that Will snipes? Mm? Snipes is such a foul word. That's what you did. I did. I feel bad about it? Yea, yeah, you did a real bad guy behavior. And yeah you did to clean this up in the podcast. Yeah, that's my legs. I'm so happy about it. It's bad guy behavior. He Will. I love it. I love a dirty dog. I was a dirty dog. I was a dirty dog. You know you're dirty dog when you're not even trying and it just happens that way. You're like, yeah, like I got so many DAPs when everyone found out on campus, it's pretty and I was like, oh I figured it out. I think I think the girl you're you're sniping should be Yeah, yeah, what's her name? Yeah? Yeah, Dakasta. Oh the top model turned actress. She's she's bad, she's unapproachably hot. She was on top model, isn't can Oh no, that's a different lady. Yeah yeah, yeah, maybe the Costa in her last name. I don't know, no, I know, but I know y'all have the Costa who you're talking about? She? Man, she is crazy? It is? That would be a good one. Could It's gotta be one that you almost think couldn't happen. Yeah, yes, that's exactly accurate. Yeah. She looks West Indian and in some kind of way, she looks like she could if I'm Hollywood casting, I'm not offending anybody when I cast her, right, right, I know who exactly who this is? Yeah? So now the other one, Yeah, now the other one? Right? Yeah, yeah, I mean that's a good show. Don't like that. Don't be like that. The other one has to be more clearly a lesbian. You know, I'm thinking, what's your name? Breezy from Empire? You know what I'm talking about? I don't, but I'm excited to find out. I didn't watch Empire. Oh that's big here, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, she was great. Wit You didn't watch Empire? No, no, no, I I had better things to do, But but what what? What better things? You know, get in touch with God? Think about that. Terrence Howard as jay Z is all you need to see. You didn't even know that movie. He didn't even know it was a TV show. He thought it was a documentary. Terence Howard in his Math. Yeah, We've had endless discussions about Terrence Howard in the Math on this this pod course. But but it sounds like we've got a solid casting here. Yeah, Breezy is good. I mean, you guys came up Acrost, it's r E. And of course Orlando Brown in his comeback, in his big comeback, this is gonna get him an Essence Award. I love that. I love I loved him getting a full Mickey Rour what was it Mickey Rourke in the Wrestler sort of like returned to his triumphant moment. This is basically the black Wrestler. Yeah, I mean, he's got to get off that ship. Though. All right, we can't bullshit anymore. I feel like we've wasted maybe the most time we've ever wasted before we've even gotten into a topic. And and the listeners are going to be furious. Look, fifteen minutes we made it in but before we even introduced what today's discussion is, well, you came with one that I'm I'm really excited about. I truly this is this was new to me, If I'm being honest, I did not I did not know that this was such a big deal. But you came with a conspiracy theory that I think it's gonna make for a great conversation. And I want to get this right. You said, my mama told me Sho was austed from the music industry because he knew the truth about isis. Yeah, he said, they're not real. Please tell me more. Tell me where this started for you? What what you know? Tell us everything? For me, I just read it on the internet once and I was like, you know what where what? Well it starts with obviously what's Channing being up to, which you have to look up every couple of years, you know, because somebody was like, oh, he dated that trains woman and then they'd like and that was like his biggest news story in a while. But then then the whole thing was like they didn't date, they're just friends. And then it was like I was like, this is you brought back Chinny for a lie. Wait, oh, I didn't know that that was a lie. I think I just presumed it was sort of like an Eddie Murphy situation. Yeah, yeah, no, I guess it was just like Dan hung out once she admitted it was all a lie, but it was like, oh, we don't care, like we're not following up on gen news, so they were like, oh, yeah, whatever, why is it even news anyway. I think it's a sad point of of I guess, relevance or or sort of existence as a a famous person, celebrity, whatever it is, when the Internet stops caring about your well being and just it's like, Oh, you're gonna be Twitter for the day. You're just gonna be our fun for for the afternoon as we make fun of the fact that you got caught with this this person who we presumed you would not have previously fucked right right right, for no apparent reason. You know. Yeah, it hurt, yeah, right exactly. Yeah. I don't think for the record, I don't think he's ever heard anyone. And that's the thing why he had one opinion, and it was that isis might not be real and because this is this the isst thing predates the woman scandal. Whatever, it's gotta be a reasoning behind that, like and and when you read about it, did you did they provide any context? Was he just like at a concert and was like right there? And then he was like all right. I used to say, really have a good NIGHTE yelled. I left because you said a concert. Uh listen, even a garage can be a concert if enough people show up outside of it. Yeah. All you gotta do is some lights. Yeah all right, Yeah, I'm about to have a concert tonight. I'm just gonna talk during dinner my wife and daughter. Yeah, I don't know. I mean what if I didn't. I just thought it was like, oh, it's gotta be true. I won't do any more research. But I mean, here's the only reason I think that it's not true is like rappers say pretty crazy ship and never get canceled. Right. Yeah? Have you have you heard? JAILEC? Trunk was verse on I d case on Red. It's what does he say? He says, y'all can have Dr Faucia. I'm sticking with Dr Wesley. I'll never let the CDC come and finesse me. Oh Jay, I will say that. I I'm constantly impressed with people's ability to to insert they're anti vaccination ship in conversations. I was doing a club this past weekend in Richmond, Virginia, and like, there was no reason for vaccinations to have come up, but the host was determined to be like a bro I don't believe in that ship. And I was like, who, all right, man, I let you come in the green room. This is uh, this is not ideal. He's like, yeah, my whole family none of us believe in that. My grandma makes tea. I'm like, okay, all right, what kind of a lot of people apparently really strong to that is knocking out COVID and and impotence and all kinds of stuff. He is not medicine. I hate that. I have to say it often. It's not I don't know, see Moss is medicine. I'm somewhere in the middle, you know. I'm like, I'm not quite Tyree, but I'm like, I'm not gonna lie. Kyrie is make some good points. And your Kyrie supporter at this point, you you are invested in the Kyrie's got. I don't know if I'm invested. I like that he uses King and Queen and I like, I mean, we can just we can say the stuff we like about him that doesn't I like that he has handles better than every one. Yeah, he's the best dribbler to ever A dribble that don't make him smart, if you got that's how the world. I mean that. I feel like i've I've told this story on the podcast before, but I was actually there when when Kyrie first said that the Earth was flat, or at least first like sort of acknowledged it in a room. I was at the the All Star Game doing this thing for Oculus, and was weirdly like at a fucking podium interviewing. I wasn't interviewing because I was too cowardly, but I was standing next to a bunch of people interviewing Lebron. And then one of the people that was interviewing Lebron goes, Lebron, this is back when he's on the calves, Lebron, did you hear what your teammates said about the Earth being flat? And then Lebron laughs and literally Kyrie's at a podium not twenty feet away from him, and he goes, hey, y'all read, Hey, y'all read, you think the Earth is flat. And then Kyrie just like smiled and then went yeah. I was like, oh, he's he's just that's a silly billy. And I thought it was just gonna keep being silly billy ship and then he took it very seriously and it was like, it's getting weird, bro, just be a silly billy. I don't like, Yeah, you don't have to really watch him on the shop. He was on the shop recently and he sort of gets into it and it's like, oh, you're like a weirdo for real. But like, I don't. I can't watch the shop. I can't watch the shop. I feel like that shows for robots. Whoa this is? Yeah? What what is? What's bumping you in the shop? It is every time I watched the shop, everything everybody says feels so calculated. I could see that. You know what I'm saying. It feels like genuine conversation. Yeah, it's it's like six PR machines working at at once exactly. It feels like an industry plan. Like I would say, everybody but Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart goes on there and he says, uh difficult things, uh that that he thinks his PR told him to say, but in fact he's actually making it worse somehow, which is why I've also grown to love Kevin Hart. I never loved. I don't think I ever left either. But when I hear I'm talking about money with jay Z, I'm like, and I asked around about that interview and that nobody else really doug it except me, and I was like, I really enjoyed that, Like, yeah, it's too rich news talking about money for thirty minutes. Yeah, I hate that ship. I'll be real. I think that's the dumbest thing in the world is watch a bunch of billionaires sit around and be like, you know what my difference was. I believed in myself, and it's like talking to you, you piece of ship. I've been believing in myself this whole old time, and it ain't did nothing for nobody. I don't know. I've got a couple of gold rings, you got a house stone. It's all of it's fake, he said, houses, houses falling apart, my wife, what do you want? This is all None of this is is a byproduct of believing in myself. Believe man. Also, because really stupid people believe in themselves, right, That's what I'm saying, look at it work out for them, Like, look at like Kyrie Fristance stupid, but his body is smart. Yeah, his body is Yeah, it sounds like you're you're sexually harassing him. Not gonna lie, but it ain't your brain. All right, we need to take a break. We've we've this truly maybe the most off track, meaningless episode we've ever been a part of, and I can't wait to do more of it. We're gonna take a break. We'll be back with more Will Miles. More my mama told me. Oh yes, Kenny Lender nigga a pencil. Yeah, we're back there. Well, more of my mama told me more Will Miles. We're still talking about the possibility that Chingy is being alienated in the music industry because of his his knowledge of what's really happening with isis do you were you a Chingy fan? Man, I'll pose this to both of you. Were either of you Chingy fans at his height? No? I would say, were you not a Chinny fan? Because that says more about you. Everybody would chang. I felt like a defensive and I wasn't say I think that. Here's what I like about Chinney everybody else's verse on holiday in the fact that he pulled Jason Weaver and Kesha Knight pull him out for the one call Away video. Yeah, and I hated that song right there. I did hate it. I hated it. I hated it a lot. Wow, Yeah, I really didn't like it. The chicken Head was was a very popular dance. True. I forgot that he was a pioneer. Yeah. I think he was the soul piloneer. I think did he invent it? I don't know that he invented it, but he certainly was the he He was the the catalyst for us realizing that St. Louis wasn't complete garbage? Yeah, whoa is? I think Nellie put St. Louis on the map. But Nellie didn't introduce us to St. Louis culture. Cheney really gave us St. Louis culture, and the chicken Head was was at the root of that. That was such a good dance for like guys who couldn't dance. Uh huh, so good. It was like, yeah, j did it too, Jan that team who sounded drunk on every track? Yeah, or job of the hut hard let the beat play. We'll figure it out. I also like I like the chicken head because it came right on the heels of the Harlem shaik, which was far more difficult dance physically. Yeah, it was, of course tried the Harlem shaking mean a bunch of times. Yeah, yeah, you know what used to be I'm not going to even hold you all. I used to be pretty nasty at Harlem. I can't do it on you. You got This was back when T shirts were were four shirts, you know what I mean that. It was back when when things were oversized and you just had to you just had to hit your shoulders hard enough and you get a person to hold up your your collar and god damn, you were killing it. You know what I would do when I tried to do the Harlem shake was I would just grab the bottom of the T shirt move it around. Uh huh. It wasn't good. That was the beauty of the Harlem shake, where there there was no rules to it, so as long as you were on b you were you were nailing it. That's true. There was like, Yeah, showtime is kind of an offshoot of the Harlem Shake. I feel like like Showtime on the Subway. Yeah, I don't know. What those boys called that New York dancing on the subway bullshit. But it definitely, it definitely is a It's a function of that, right, Like I think the hard the Shake was sort of like and uh, there's a ven diagram. There's a bunch of crossover inside of it. Now I'm like trying to it was right, I don't have the don I don't. I looked like Dave Chappelle when I did it. Remember how bad? Yeah, I feel like I was in college and all this is going on, maybe because I remember being territory about not having to do the harm shake anymore. Yeah, Yeah, I was like, I'm Midwest and I've never once planned on going to St. Louis, but I will do this. I think that is a weird breaking point for or at least an older generation. Now. I think the Internet has kind of changed it. But like there used to be a time where like you reached a certain age and you were just like, I don't do that no more. I ain't. Like for me, it was when I went to college the fucking Soldier Boy Superman that whole I was like sort of hitting it stride and was like, Okay, I'm not gonna do that. I I gotta make a choice. It's bitches around. I gotta decide if I'm gonna be a Superman now as dude or if I'm gonna just get to know them emotionally. Yeah. That was smart, though, because I don't think that aged well. No, I don't think the Superman that whole was. I think that was the first age where I thought a rapper looks stupid because when you like, you take it all in when you're young, so they all look cool to me. But boy was the first one where you're like, no, this is dumb. And then I was. I used to listen to Joel Ortiz and he was like when he said in that song, he was like, do me a favorite accidentally step on your white sunglasses. I really felt like, yeah, this is real hip hop. Yeah. I never haven't been in New York in my life. I still listen to Joel RT. He had a song with a guy name Apolo and up. He said he has my favorite line, Uh, when you gifted sometimes you wrap yourself into a box and something about like, well here, I am still the hottest nig in the barbershop, Still the hottest nig in the barbershop is a perfect description. Like I like, I like they put it. They should have put a stage with a cage that had a Joel in it. That's how I feel. I like that. Guys, he's he's deep in his forties. You gotta let him go. How old are you? How that's irrelevant? I'm I'm not hinting on children. I've I've moved on with my life. He's self aware though he said here, I am the hottest thing in the barbershop. He knows it doesn't go further than that. Yeah, he's there for one discussion and it's like, you know, he's a good rapper, Joel Ortiz all the top five and then they goes around. Then somebody walks in with you know, reasoning. And I was just in the barbershop today. Joel Ortiz didn't come up, not one, not one. Barbara was like, you know who we need to be talking about is Joel two. That's backs. I wouldn't bring it up to my barbera either, shout that because so he always like calls me old. So I couldn't even be like, you know, you know what she needed to be Damn am I'm the only person and maybe you guys remember this, and I guess I've always wanted clarity about this. We were talking about Soldier Boy and Superman that how there was a conspiracy theory when I was younger that Superman that ho was a reference to coming on a lady's back and then slapping the sheets on her back so that it formed a superman like Kate. You know I heard something about that. I forgot about that. Yeah, that's how you know he was a child and not having sex yet though. That's that's something you say in theory. If you're actually having sex, you're not gonna try to do all that. Yeah, it's a lot of it's a prank. Is a real Ashton Cutcher interpretation of what sex is, especially post nut. Yeah, I'm not here for post nuts. Shenan against pre nuts. Let's go crazy post nut. Let's get juice and some rest. Yeah. Even even what's his name, he slaps the egg on their heads during he's during the fucking. So he was this, what's all boy the foreign star will be slapping eggs on heads. We just talked about him the other day. He'd be he's rapping. Oh, Brian Pumpers, Yeah, Brian Pumper. He you know he slaps eggs on heads. No, I did not know that. Yeah, my am my miscount am I mistaken? Yeah, OLIVI back me up here, Brian Pumper, you guys from the whole. No, this is Brian Pupper's signature move. And if you boys don't know this about him, you're not fans of his work. Brian Pupper's signature is sucking a lady from the back and then slapping her her head with an egg. Wow. Maybe I never caught far enough because I truthfully, I probably never watched more than four minutes of permit. You gotta watch some of his compilations. So is it Is it a thing where he's about to come and he doesn't. No, I think he's doing it just like whenever in the middle, whenever he's got an egg, he's like, you're getting eggs, bitch. You know the girl is like looking out the side of her eye, like does he have a egg right now? He probably you know, he checks from me, talks to him. I would never agg you, Betty Joy, I just do that to me and then he's egg it's on. I g Yeah. No, he's a real monster. I mean to be fair, if you're king ing. Oh here's a lady holding two eggs. Yeah, yeah, he's doing it. Yeah, he's out here living his dreams. Man, that's pretty cool. I say all this to say that that Brian Pumper at least is doing it in the middle of of the the experience, whereas what Soldier Boys describing feels much more like, to your point, will a childish thing to do it afterwards. Yeah, that's it's like you were thinking about this the whole time. Yeah, help stop what you're doing. Yeah, and she came, yeah, come on, soldier boy, this throw on some entog. Soldier boy in dorm room don't go together. Though I don't think Soldier Boys seems like he would have bought a dorm room, like he wouldn't go to the college. But he does seem like he would buy a dorm room and be like, I'm the first rapper to live in a dorm when I didn't have to write I live I live at Grapes in more House. I bought it. I bought room too. He was the first rapper with the Popeye's chicken sand or the Wingstop chicken sandwiches, though I saw that, oh really yeah, and so Rick Ross came in and hated on him and took over. I don't know about that. He just had like six of them in a video when he was like, I'm the first fraender down wingstop chicken sandwich. Damn. I will say Rick Ross is a more believable folks person for wings, Like, yeah, somebody who does cocaine. I did not trust for food. Yeah, boy looks like he only eats candy. No soldier. Boy looks like the dude who you say lemon pepper and he comes out with barbecue. It ain't Yeah, he's not trustworthy individual pepper. Rick Ross them Lemon's gonna be pepper, you know, Yeah, yeah, like in a new way. Yeah, like, oh, it's just loving white pepper. Yeah, I'm very biased when it comes to food. We've gone unbelievably far from our original location. Let me ask you so, you you were at one point a fan of Chingy. You were then prompted to look up where he was and what he was up to, and found out that he had these feelings about isis What was your feeling in seeing that he said they're in a luminating plot to spark population and control. WHOA wow? That does not. That seems like too many moving parts. Yeah, it's a lot of layers all at once. Yeah, that's everywhere, all the time, all at once. Why would they do. Everybody has a different population and control theory if you frequent Hotel Upside, But it is like it's weird because it's like, yeah, they're all working like you know, make you know, people kill black people. Yeah. I think the interesting thing about population control theories is that they are oftentimes difficult to refute with the person who's bought into it, in part because our population across the planet is going down right, like like just you know, through our own education of like sex and and reproduction and all the things, and also just resources changing and the the fucking capitalism changing the way that people approach their own lives. The population is shrinking across the globe. So it's hard to be like, no, that ain't real because they're like, yeah, but statistically I'm right, And it's like, well, yeah, that's stupid, but not not for the reason you think, yeah, you're yeah, it's true. And if you go on hotep dot com, hotep dot com being a real website, is I pray that they have it. I hope, nobody, nobody, We should grab it. Nobody has it. I don't know, I don't know. I've never looked up hotep dot com. I'm gonna do it right now. If nobody has it, we gotta get it. We have to have it. If it's still available, I already have Hennessey and Dreams whatever. Hotep games, Hotep games, I don't know. And it says not secure, and I'm like, of course it's not secure. The Star Force the Hotep Controversy a turn based strategy game for one to five players. Playing is one of five different factions, each with different goals. You may defend helpless alien civilizations or exploit them for their planets, natural resources. That's right, that's right, just a classic game. A bunch of Hoteps like to play. You control the population of white folks. It's different. It's fascinating because essentially this Hotep games, it seems like they're they're basically going like, look, we lost the white people, got us, but we could funk up an alien group. Right now. I want to play it, but I worry that it will take my credit card. Oh, it absolutely so much worse. It might even start sending you spam emails that are like seemingly accurate. No, this doesn't sound like they researched. Just They have an about us section on this page and I'm gonna read it to you guys. It says Hotep Games is the branch of Simple Design Software LLC that produces all sorts of online games, from card games to turn based strategy to U M m O R g pgs. I guess that's shooting games. All of our games have at least one feature or attribute that is original and unique to the genre of the game, creating a gameplay experience like no other, and true to our name, our games are simple and easy to learn. They use the word game too much. Yeah, that also has nothing to do with no it truly they said there are a family run company and we treat our customers as family too. WHOA Does this mean the hotep dot com is not run by Hoteps? No, it doesn't seem that way. It seems like they truly just are are taking advantage of a bunch of hoteps, not not grabbing their ship when they could have. Damn, I'm checking hotep dot net. We need Tobinator to buy this website for all of us. We can get te dot net. Yeah we this is this is a big mistake for them now to have invested in hotep dot com. Oh my god, dot net. I would like hotep dot net to be my website now, hotep dot net where the hoteps are are hanging out. No, no, it's open. We could get it. Oh we gotta buy hotep dot net. I think for the culture for sure. Culture. Let's Farrell paid for it, right, Yeah, we give me behind this. We'll call Will and we'll say Mr Ferroll, David and I have been talking, and uh, we really think if you could pull out your credit card right now, hotep dot net is open and ready for business. I say we call him big Willie Style. Yes, yes, that name is up in the air since the slap, so I mean he's more big reflective style. Now, hey, what can I say? I will say that that I sent were bullshitting at this point. I will say that that apology was a terrible mistake. I think he could have he could have avoided that completely and just went on tweeting from Ecuador or whatever it is that he's doing right now, go back to the funny We we like the funny videos, not not we, but like the people do. I'd rather him not be sorry. Yeah, that's where I live in it. I'd rather I'd rather I'd rather not feel bad, but I'd rather be like yeah and what like. Honestly I approve of that more than apologies. Apologies like a private apology, fine, I respect that, and you guys make up and we don't see it at all, but public apologies, Loo, get out of here. I don't care. Well, Also, I don't really care about your life. Chris was already running, you know, fucking from stadium to stadium, saying how he didn't give a ship that you slapped him and fuck you, Like, the apology isn't gonna like, come off, He's not gonna be like, you're right, I'm gonna cut these bits from my act. No, yeah, you can't do And then all of a sudden, trying to be a nice guy. Yeah, follow through with the ship that you went up on stage, Max, somebody followed through with that energy. Do you imagine how amazing it would be if Will Smith did a latent life. He'll train and then now he was just slapping people. Oh, that'd be great, like and that's what the end of it was. It was just like remember before he slapped a shot out about funds over berl I'll be honest, the only reason I don't like that idea is because I've said enough bad things about him that have caught attention that I'd be worried it would eventually come to me. But otherwise, and frankly, I'd eat a slap for the greater good of like enjoying this. Heel to that. Yeah, that would suck me up, slap because I would not ride for you. See, no, you like he likes me, and so yeah, that's good side stiff Sola. You guys, you guys are bonded with him. Yeah, I've only burned the bridge and I and I eat that slap, and I do it very differently than Chris Rotten did. I'll go our record and say that that there's no version of me getting slapped. And I finished reading the white Man's words, but but I will, I will eat the packers words. Yeah that, No, I'm you slap me. I'm screaming and falling down and kicking my feet. I'm gonna cause a scene. I'm gonna make people think that my jaw is broken. It is gonna be a kerfuffle at the very least. Man, if that kerfuffles you, I'm gonna have to come in and Jake Prince this situation. You just stand in there with your finger guns in the middle. Alright, Nexon and will Smith to do a concert together. It's gonna be for saving the rainforest for some reason. It's gonna be free some other person who's definitely gonna stay in jail. Yeah, it's like, why why are these two doing the concert for that? All right? I guess we're gonna do a concert to bring Tuki Williams back to life. This is gonna fun the Tuki hologram and we'll we'll damp out and switch sets and then well and then we'll slap the Tuki hologram and every everybody cheers like yeah, I don't actually don't like the message, but I like, yeah, the crypts killed my family, get them will ye. And that's how he gets back on top. He should have done a sketch where he slaps everybody. Yeah, he loves doing Internet sketches. Do a sketch where you walk down the street and slap everybody. You gotta would be so funny. You gotta get past whatever this healing is and just get back to being a silly billy because none of this is gonna satisfy the audience. Do you think it's serving? No, they don't love you. No. And and furthermore, the the Academy is not gonna like track your apology and be like, fine, you can come back next year. No. No, he you bugg the funk out. They got in trouble because of it. Yeah, that's a big dog. Yeah that's okay, though, I'm saying, start rapping again, start cursing in your wraps now. Yeah. Yeah. Will Smith drops a pussy record in Whoa. I'm listening Megan the Stallion featuring Will Smith. Oh ship, Oh that's smart. He doesn't make his own record, just hops on somebody who's already established good pussy talk. Yeah, and she talks about sucking her. Yeah. Yeah, he said he's gonna suck her. He just dropping bars like Jada doesn't know. And they're like, this is for that Austin Breston Tiller type nic. I forget who it was, but Austin Bryson Tiller. All right, I don't know that we're gonna beat that. We're gonna take one more break We'll be back with more and more. My mama told me, don't be a bracket all to the round stuff. Yeah, we're back here with more world mines more. My mama told me. We're still talking about and I think we're still talking about it, but I'm not even sure what we're talking about anymore. I think we're still talking about Shinky taking down the American government with his revelations that terrorism across the world is being fabricated. Oh yeah, Ultimately, I will say, bottom line on this conspiracy, I don't agree with it, just because I've heard rappers say crazier shit and not get taken out, you know what I mean? Whoa, that's why. That's why I think that, Like I think, I think it was probably poor management, a lack of talent. I think these are the things that actually out of the game. Yeah. Enny wasn't a particularly gifted rapper. Hey, come on, what is it? He had a very signature sound. I'll give him that. He came with a very signature sound, and he also was doing he was introducing a signature cult. Sure that was not necessarily in sort of like the common conversation at the time, And this was also an error where I think the Midwest was sort of like in it's heyday as far as like hip hop was concerned, Like Chicago was really on. St. Louis was was getting some love. Even fucking Memphis was sort of like really like doing like in memphisis stayed on I think better than than even all three for a long time. But but the Midwest was really fucking doing its thing. That said, I agree with you Bory that this feels more like a dude who just kind of hit his peak and didn't know what else to do with it. Yeah. I feel like Cheney's gonna gonna get a Google alert about this podcast. He's gonna hear that we're shooting on him, and then he's gonna like tweet out like, hey, these things ain't ain't real. Nobody's going to do their thing, do your thing, and it's like twelve lights lights, we're gonna do it. Sorry, we ain't doing that thing that you want us to do. I do worry though, if he sneaks the internet, like you know how all those bad pictures of are Spears came out after he said that chat Lizzo, I definitely got some of those pictures, like you're eating a doughnut like as is the worst person in the world, though, so I don't think they ever be that ashamed. I hate that guy, you know, Lizzo. Lizzo is an easy target, but Chingy is is sort of like we're attacking maybe ah injured, rare animal. So it's it's hard to know if the uh, if the Internet is gonna defend him or if they're just like, I kill it down. I think we are punching down by attacking Chiny. I don't think so. I think Chin has more Instagram followers than me right now a d percent. He has more Instagram followers than you. But how many of them care about him as the big question? I don't know. I mean, we don't follow him, and we can. I don't care. I care, I care A right, A hundred and nine. That's relevant. Yeah, but see music is more. Yeah, me and him are pretty much neck and neck. I'd say we're we're right. I've always said that you are the Chiney of this young generation of comedians, and it's always hurt my feelings every time you every time you said it, it's it's hurt more and more than the last have you seen a sideburns. Since he said this too, he looks progressively older? Does he said, like thick sideburns with no beard the sign of like you are somebody's uncle who's trying to get around the block and done something. Yeah, yeah, it's it's tough. And he his pants are pulled all the way up. He's doing concerts and what looks like abandoned restaurants. None of this feels like it feels like the chinky that we admired. I can't imagine it's easier. Like he was a he's a musician, And I don't think comedians can punch down on the musicians because musicians are always above us, right, that's because what they say means more to people than what we say. Yeah, and he's still you're still right, he was still a rapper, Like I'm not suff Yeah, no, he's fine. Look okay. April tenth of this year, he performed at the halftime of the Clippers game. Oh that's punching, that's we're punching up. Yeah, we're punching up now. I will say, I'm watching this video and it is not a a exciting halftime there. You know, the crowd ain't going crazy for him. Yeah, I mean, am I still gonna go get a pretzel with some with some hal openions and cheesey? Yeah? Yeah, you know you're not You're not staying in your seat for the big Chinky concert but watching the string outside. Yeah, exactly, ordering a hot is that chiny? You're like, Oh, that's cool. Chinny got buff alright, not my good buff, but he got alright cool. Well, I think we did it, y'all. I think we nailed this conversation. We we listen, it's all a on wax at this point, Will, could you tell the people at home where they can find you and what cool ship you have going on? Uh? You know, I've got a lot of prospective projects coming out, so what you had the entire world of options to choose from. You're like, hey, man, I'm in development. I got a few general meetings coming up that I'm pretty excited about. The Roku said they want to meet, and uh, I'm just saying some ship my pop and I don't want to have been like, I didn't say anything. And then I watched season season Very south Side is coming out pretty soon too. Oh that's funny, Max, Not the conglomerate. It's coming out before it's a conglomerate. I think, oh beautiful. Are you gonna be Are you gonna reprise your role as Adam Bethune? Unfortunately, No, I'm not coming back is Adam Bethum. But but I am still a proud, proud extension of the south Side family, and I'm excited that the show was coming back for season three. Will is back as Jamal I am, I'm yeah, so so watch for that reason. If if nothing else, I just got a funco popped off in ice too. Oh me too, Yeah, and yeah it's beautiful. Bory. Can you tell the people where they can find you. I don't know what's happening with you. I forget when these are coming out. Just cool guy jokes CD seven on Instagram and you'll find me all right, Well, follow Bory a cool guy jokes said, he's seven in it all as always. You can find me at Langston Kerman on all platforms. 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