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Beef with The Motherland (with Langston Kerman and David Gborie)

Published Aug 6, 2024, 9:00 AM

Did the U.S. government create tension between Black Americans and Africans? Langston and David answer a listener's email about this conspiracy theory and their experience moving to The States from Africa. The conversation leads in different directions regarding Africa's views of the United States, the international relationship between the two continents, and the discussion of the African Diaspora. Of course, it's our take on it -- so Lil' Mommas, strap in! Plus, Langston and David want to invest in a Little League team.

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Hey, well, Mama's it's me David Bori from earlier. I'm here to tell you that I have a comedy special that I produced by myself that is out via Mypatreon, Patreon dot com backslash David Bori. Go on there, sign up for the Patreon for free, buy the special for twelve dollars. It is quite frankly the best special of the year, next to Limeston's, and I stand on that.

WHOA, that's a great stance to have, and thank you for mentioning. I too have a special August twentieth, it'll be available on Netflix. It's called Bad Poetry, and it's the best I could do. It's I don't know where it ranks in the scale of other specials, but it certainly is the best I could come up with and commit to. So I'd appreciate your viewership and watch David watch mine, and write us immediately afterwards and tell us how funny we are. And if you didn't feel that way, maybe shut the fuck up about it.

I mean, I'm waiting. I'm waiting for my chance to get into the Titland Tyler perry Man. I'd be such a good bad guy because he wouldn't make me a hero. I think we all no, no, no, and I have bad news for you. I don't even think he would make you a bad guy in a film. I think he'd make you.

One of his like sitcom bad you.

Know what I mean.

He'd want to make you feel small in a way that he would.

He'd be like starring on the Black or the Berry, the Meaner, the Juice.

David Boy is the juice, and angry Angry.

David is BlackBerry.

Man coming to maybe be et Plus, I don't you wish in.

Your wars are racist?

The money stuff.

I can't tell me? All right, new drink one part Alise, one part Chrystyle, thus passion, y'all know what time it is. This drink is guarantee to get the fussy, wet and the dick hard. Welcome Little Mama's and gentiles alike to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me.

The podcast where we dive deep, deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories and.

We finally worked to prove that Calvin Brotus aka Snoop Dog is not in France as an ambassador to the Olympics as we have all been, but do you believe, but he is in fact a Parisian spy. He's a reverse Josephine Baker. I'm David Bori, y'all, Oh boy, reverse Josephine Baker. Got damn this is I Come on, that's what's gonna happen.

That's nasty work. If this whole time Snoop has been doing all these appearances just to make us feel completely thrown off, unaware, obtuse to the life that he's actually living as a foreign spy.

I think it would work. I think if anybody listen, if Dennis Rodman can go to North Korea, come on, Snoop can go to Paris. I don't even know how Dennis got there. I don't know. I mean, like, yeah, I think he's friends.

With no no, no, I know the logic of how Dennis got there. I'm saying that, like, physically, they have made a believe that getting to North Korea is like this impossible thing, and the ins and outs it's like you you can't. We couldn't even figure it out on the black market type shit. And Dennis Rodman was going week to week like he didn't give a fuck. He was just like I take delta to North Korea. Right, that's a good that's a good point. That is a good point.

Fucking six foot seven drunken hell.

Right, what didn't you because so many people had to have checked you at a border, stopping at like you know what I mean to be like, what the fuck do you mean you're going to North Korea? And he's like, now I'm going to North Korea and he did, yeah, and they stay multiple times.

Do they stamp your passport North Korea?

I think they take your passport and they stamp you yo.

That's what they've led us to believe. At least I don't know anything, because yeah, don't you to people have to like sneak through the mountains, right, that's what I mean. It's like so fucking crazy, Like where did he land? Dog? Because what if you land in like Soul. Let's say you land in Seoul, They're not gonna be cool. Right If you're just like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna go up North real fast.

I bet they's the least cool about it. You know, all the people they're like, bro, that's not chill.

Yeah, we don't don't go over. So then that means he had to fly private from another country.

In yeah, yeah, or somebody that like, yeah, he like had to go to Russia and then like you can go to North Korea or whatever.

The fuck? Damn damn, I don't Yeah, this fell that that goes deeper than the Snoop Dogg being.

Yeah, no, but I think Snoop Dogg being an agent for a foreign foreign you know, government, seems possible too.

It used to be famous. People look it up.

Yeah, and it makes sense. And he's the most famous person, I would say, and.

Nobody's gonna ask. He's one of the very few people that he could be anywhere and people would be like, oh great, Snoops here, Like if I saw him in a government building, I'd be like, oh awesome, that's something cool. Yeah, Snoops the GA building or whatever wherever I'm at. You know what, Damn, Snoop got weak. He always kept it real. And one day I like about Snoop Dogg. He always kept it real. He loves juicy juice. But what are we here to talk about? Not Snoop. We're not here to talk about Snoop. We are here.

It's not a mini episode. This is this is a full Lengthston and David David and Langston extravaganza. Yeah no, Jacky shit, just us too.

And we're gonna read an email. We'll talk some ship and see what it does. What it? Yeah, it's me excited. You want me to read it? You want to read it? Uh? Yeah, I'll read it. Why not?

Yeah? So they say us government, We got a a email from a person named Missy. Missy sent us an email that said, you as government intentionally stokes African versus African American discord. Now that that hooks me right away.

Here's where I lie. I understand. It hooks me like I'm interested to read the email. I do think they've just been doing that. I don't need to. I don't know how much you need the government. The government is intervention, that's just been hap you're saying. You're saying black people figured that out on our own. I really need like a white mastermind to come o as much as I like, I think you take a group of people, and then you take a group of black people from one place, you take them to another place. We are better than y'all the black people. You're saying.

The second them boats hit America, people look back and they are like I hated them niggas.

Oh, I'm so glad I got to be away from them Africans. That's what I'm gonna call them. We different, y'all. I think it was like I think it was like a situation like this, This is terrible. Like remember that McDonald's commercial about Calvin. Yeah, Calvin got a job. Yeah, that's what they thought they were. They thought they were coming over.

As soon as they unchain us opportunity away.

It was just niggas. They just locking us up for safety.

When we get there, it's gonna be tight, tight, tight tight.

You see the ship says precious cars, nigga.

They sold me for forty shillings. It will be fine. They say, I got muscles.

Good teeth. Obviously we know the middle passage was terrible. We don't want this, say no, this is just fun, sillyra I was just making light of slavery.

Yeah, it's the only way you can talk about slavery at this point.

Yeah, what are we gonna make more dark of it? Come?

What are you gonna remind me it happened and that it was worse than I could have ever imagined. No, I'm trying to watch fifteen years of slave What are.

We doing ten twelve was too many If you didn't want it, I didn't want it. I did. Did you see this?

It was a beautiful film that I will never return to again. No, I will never pick you know what I mean? It was just like all these talented people all doing the correct thing and telling this story, and I resent having seen it, and I will never want to experience it once anymore.

In my life. Yeah, I get that. That's how I feel about all that BTP, black tragedy porn. Yeah, beautifully active acted though.

Come on, dude, she would tell Edge of four at his at his finest Lukita. This is before we knew who Lupita was and she was Come on, Brad Pitt showed up it didn't even know that. Yeah, Michael Fastbender's up in there.

Damn, you might be swinging me back.

What I'm saying Michael Fastbender is like you think he's gonna be racist already and then he's not. But man, did he lock in for for that piece?

Do they have any fun moments? Like? It's a nightmare film. I'm out again. I'm out again. I'm out again. I don't need that story told another time.

No, it's just a man trying to get back to his family the whole time, and then he gets back and they're old. You know what I mean, Like life has been lost.

Bro. That's one thing I will say, say whatever you want. You know what I love about the Tyler Perry verse. We're all rich and happy. I'm not happy all kinds of rich problems. It is.

He does imagine a world where everybody is somehow as rich as he is. Even yeah, man, nobody. He won't pay a single employee a living wage, and yet imagines the world where everybody is upper middle class black.

Does he have his own streaming series? Now?

I bet he does. I bet there's though. Yeah, I think he owns BT plus or something like that. But I bet you they're somewhere where like you can get just Tyler Perry productions, isolated from every other media service.

That makes sense. Well, but if you do want to holler at us, you know what I mean?

Honestly, yeah, holler at us? I'm what do he what do you call everybody who doesn't like his ship? I am one of the UHT. He had some article Olivia sent it to us where he was where said, yeah, he was like all you uppity negroes who don't care for my work. I am one of those uppity negroes, but I'm not above changing my mind.

Tyler Perry, Well, I mean you wrote boo. You you're the reason it happens, So I mean I was witnessed to it at the very least.

So yeah, I paid me back, Tyler if by just pouring me out in one of your worst projects.

Come on, let me let me be a car dealership owner. That is how famous I want to get. Is car dealershit me too?

No, that that's a nice kind of famous. I want to get famous enough that I can go do something completely shitty and everybody thinks it's funny that I would go do that.

Oh like yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I understand that.

Like I want to get so famous that I can go do a Herpes commercial and everybody's like, how funny is that that? He like, very genuinely did that Herpees commercial?

See? I like that. I would like to get famous enough to have like my own yearly three on three basketball tournament. Oh that's tight, would be that's tight? You know what I mean? Yeah? Yeah, or like sponsor a little league team, which I guess we could probably do that now.

As I say, I think you're famous enough for that now. And by famous enough, I mean making more than forty thousand dollars a year.

Come on, maybe that the government knows about.

I think if you exceed any person on this planet who exceeds forty grand you could you could own a Little League team tonight.

That would crazy? Yeah, could you really do that? Though?

I think if you're willing to like buy some jerseys for a local Little League team, you know what I mean, Like if you can write it all off, right, if you gear them out, they'll rename the team for you.

I don't know about gear them out. I'm not trying to buy the cleats. That's on the parents.

But but that's I'm just saying, if you wanted to be the Bory team, you put cleats on them. If you wanted to be a team that like recognizes David Borie and they're like monthly pamphlet.

Then you get them some jerseys and some Gatorades or whatever.

Right, But like, if you really want them to be like, yo, our king is David Bori, you gotta get them cleats.

Okay, Damn, that's the problem. I'm not I'm not. I'm not kicked up enough to buy cleats for an entire little league team, yet, I think, because what's that like, what's probably like thirty kids, twenty five kids, because you figure eleven aside twenty two. Let's say you spend five grand on a little league team. I would do that. That's reasonable. I would do that.

I think that's what we're talking about. Between Jersey's cleats. Maybe you know a couple of bats and helmets.

Well, if you're listening and you have access to a little league team and you need five thousand dollars tax deductible, I'm assuming we'll work that out. We'll work that out at the back end.

Come on, because I'm looking to hide some cash.

That doesn't sound exciting for you to run a little league team. I don't want to run it.

I was about to say, I think at best, I want to be like the Donald Sterling of a little league. I want to bring that nasty controversy to an otherwise functioning organization.

I want to be like coach Prime and say bad things about their defense. Yeah, for defensive players who don't have fathers. Yes, it's like, why did you do that? Man?

Yeah, these kids were gonna get recruited.

Whether you said that or not, you didn't have to do that. He didn't have to tell anybody that. But you know, God put it on his heart, and God blessed Coach Prime, God blessed Boulder Colorado. He didn't say that about No Boulder kids. He was like, oh, yeah, I mean I'll miss him when he eventually trades up to the team that he was always looking for. Yeah.

I think you know, obviously Colorado wasn't the dream for for old coach, but it was.

You know, he's got turned around, though, and that's gonna be good years, right.

I pray that he does, because last year he started so hot and died so fast.

But you got to remember that they only won a game the year before that, right, so they were So it's already he's already turned the program. It was cast for gold. I got to yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn. He just needs a few dogs, man, Yeah, he just needs a couple of times. Listen, my team is My team is CU buffs on NC DOUAA twenty five.

Well you were you're real like you're you're trying to buy in early.

It's not early. I would have bought in at Jackson State where it just I'm just coming back around to football though I had a long time of not fucking with football and because of your your relationship with it, because of what no, I just like when I started doing comedy, man, I I kind of sports fell by the wayside. Like I used to be very invested and knew where everybody went to college, and like like I used to love Christmas break when I could watch all the bowl games and shit like that and watch Pro and shit like that, and I just like just to b Yeah, I just got other shit to do. I just didn't have that love for the game anymore. But in playing NC double A twenty five on back, baby, Yeah, that's beautiful.

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We have an email, Missy.

You sent us a very provocative topic. I'm curious with it. Let's read it.

Let's just read in and we'll see what this does.

They said, Hey, Langston and David, I just started listening in the past couple months, but I'm loving the podcast in the the dynamic between you two. I'm currently listening to the s Curl episode and Langston made a comment to effect to the effect that Africans in America are proud to be unlike African Americans and that there is a notion that Africans perceived themselves to be better than and I stand by that, Missy. I won't back a while. We know he does, and I assume you're gonna shame me for this comment. You're gonna rub my nose in it and tell me how how I'm a victim of the white man's manipulation. And that might be possible, but that doesn't change how I feel it.

Miss.

He goes on to say, my grandfather worked as an emissary for the Nigerian consulate, and my mom and her siblings lived all over the world before eventually settling in the US. As a child, I remember my mom telling me that when they first came to America, the family was shown a video by government officials that was full of stereotypes about black people in the US, and we warned them WHOA, not to associate with African Americans.

Holy shit, Yo, this is truly crazy. God damn Olivia. We got to get that video, do some research. Fuck.

This leads me to believe that the government in the US actively conspired to stoke tensions between African Americans and Africans. If I'm speculating on this on their intention, I'd argue their goal was to prevent us from coming together to or communities that uplift each other the way that other ethnicities seem to do. When they immigrate to the United States. God damn, I'd love to hear your take on this. My appreciation, Missy.

Wow, that is a great point in that you would think that any type of black people coming to America and folding into the black a group of Black Americans would build community better. Right, Bro.

If the African American hang up is that we don't know our history, we live amongst people who know our history, you know what I mean, Like I may not know my specific familial lineage, but my neighbors do know like so much about like what could where my people could be from. And I'm opting not to engage with them because like we've been trained, quote unquote trained not to like each other.

Yeah, that's just And it's like it does make makes sense to the fact of like clearly America has been trying to destroy the black community, and that like that idea of like immigrant communities kind of forging within each other where it's like, Okay, this is a Irish neighborhood and we have an Irish doctor, and we have an Irish baker and an Irish butcher and all these things, and we kind of rely on each other to build out our community and that's our economic power is something that black people kind of have time and time again. Every time that happens, it's shut down.

Right, Yeah, I mean you look at the fucking Godfather and how like when they think about Italy and like they're Italian lineage, they're kissing rings and like worshiping these people. They're not like these fucking not from here Italians. They're ruining it for all us good Italian American Like there's no want to separate in that way.

I mean, yeah, I think there's also, although that's different because the nature of the triangle Trede I think, whether perceived or not, makes some resentment that.

I simply mean that, like the literal understanding of your home space is one that you think of warmly. And I don't even know that African Americans are trained to think of Africa with any warmth or.

I don't think. I don't think that. I don't think that Americans. I don't think the West look no way. And when you you just have you ever just like I mean, I obviously, like we joke about it on this podcast and stuff, but like the way people talk about after they talk about it, people talk terribly. Bro, did you people hate it, people are afraid of it. Did you see the videos that Tiffany Addas posted of her walking She went to zimbab what and took like a full, like five minute video of her walking through a grocery store.

And being like blown away that they have grocery stores. Oh yeah, I mean it's being like vegetables, yo. I'm proud of us. I'm sorry, tam Cy.

Uh yeah, I mean the the views on it are like crazy crazy, I mean even just my mom immigrating here. I remember she told me when she first got here, like you know, she got here in eighties, people being like when did you get closed when you came to America? So nuts, like truly, and this isn't you know, this isn't the this is this is the modern era, you know what I mean. And my mom not having I talked to her about it too, it wasn't at least we're from We're from like deep in the country, so maybe that's a little different. But she didn't have any views of Americans when she got She knew, like you know, she knew about thee like the music, but other than that, she had no notion. She had no The only thing she had seen about America. Was someone in the Peace Corps had shown her? Uh?

Yeah, I think it was African Americans.

No, they showed they showed a horror movie. I think it was like Friday the Thirteen or Chucky or some shit. So I was like, what do you think about America? She was like, I knew that school was good, but I also thought it was horrible because all she had seen was like Friday the thirteen, just a giant white man. Yeah, like what that's how much Africans love education?

Damn that's beautiful. Yeah, well, this this is crazy. This is pretty wild.

Here's what and this makes me laugh. What if it wasn't an official video? What if it was just like their sponsor. He was like, I just made you a Welcome to America mixtape, y'all. Here's a little something that I've been working on. He's like, the government did not ask me.

It's not the final cut, but you'll get the gist. We're still waiting on some editors notes to get get finished up. But you gonna like what juz but I mean and to speak the conspiracies and things like that. Though, that feels to me like the true kind of bad. I feel like the government is capable of. Yeah, I do think there's so much incentive to keeping people isolated. I was watching this documentary that's on HBO about that fuck what was it called?

It was about the guy who was fucking that. Did you watch it? No?

No, No, you're talking about the That was the Netflix documentary. I watched that too, the one with the do with cerebral palsy.

Who. I can't believe we haven't unpacked it on it. Maybe that's a different appe.

You told me about it, and I did. I hadn't heard about it, and then I've watched it since and it's fucking nuts and we should unpack that. On a different day, it's Oh, Synanon, there we go. There's this group Cynanon from like the seventies or some shit sixties seventies. I can't remember the exact time that it starts, but it basically starts off as like this alcoholic drug addict program. It's like one of the first programs that can help get you off of I saw that like drugs through group therapy. And then it see right the game, the game, and they're like yelling at each other and fucking like saying vile things to each other for the sake of healing each other from their addictions, and then it evolves into a fucking cult like it fully, how far it goes from just helping drug addicts stay clean and it Yeah, it makes perfect sense that like a video and some manipulation, could you know? And oh, that's what I was trying to say, is that the major thing that they said for the people that stuck around in synan On was they couldn't get rid of the community, like they just couldn't unleash themselves because they felt so lonely and so isolated, and that's where cults sort of like find their strength. And so I think America having this cultish quality about it benefits from its citizens for specific reasons, being completely isolated for each other.

Yeah, I agree with that completely. I think also just the way that shit's set up, you have to have an underclass that you can do whatever you want to, right, Yeah, just like you need you need. You have to have that. And it's economic a point, but it's primarily rachel you know what I mean.

Yeah, ten of y'all have to starve for my belly to be full, and it's easier to break it down based off of color than it is to like go person to person and be like, what's your personality?

Like? Right, that's a much more difficult that's a much more difficult. No, you're a good guy. He's one of the good ones, right, Like now they're all dirty rotten all right, you're taking liberties here. The whole lie knows this, you know. But so I just reading this, how do you feel about this? Because it truly, however you feel about it, you have to acknowledge that it is a complicated relationship. And I think both sides seem, at least I can say in my life from what I've seen, both sides seem to want to take the good from each other. They're and not the bad. Does that make sense?

Oh that like we both would love we would love to borrow Africa as the mother land and.

Motherland and like that guy and stuff and like oh yeah we were kings and we used to we don't want to.

Deal with like your actual like politics and personhoods and.

And yeah, and I mean and vice versa right with like with like with like from the African side. You know, Africans love rap music, you know what I mean? They love the fashion, they want to like all these all these positive things that everybody takes from Black Americans. I think that there is a level of wanting that without maybe the direct problems, And I think that is that's an odd It's an odd way to look at it, because if you look, it feels like we're both in bondage, you know what I mean. So to not meet in the middle on that is very strange. We're both being like, I'm not like I'm not like that. I'm not I'm not like that one, and we're both we would benefit from being like, let's let's mix this up a little bit. I mean I would, because the the similarities are shocking. I don't know though, because you felt you said you didn't feel like that when you went to Africa. Uh No, I felt.

I think South Africa is a slightly more complicated.

And maybe it's not.

Maybe I'm being ignorant when I say this, but it felt more complicated because it is pitched so much as this place of transformation that like black the black community, the colored community out there sort of like found their equality past apartheid, and then you get there and you realize, oh, apartheid's still happening. They just don't have laws for it anymore. Right, every single server is a black person and every single person being served is a white person or a black person on you know, doing some tourism shit, and it's like, oh, there's no.

That does feel that would that would I never really thought about that way, but now I think about it. That would really change the way I experienced Africa. Bro.

We asked, because we were really trying to experience South Africa, you know what I mean. Like we're in Cape Town, we like hit up a few of the people in the hotel, like staff, and like in various places we knew behind the desk they're going to give us some generic whatever. But like we pulled like a fucking like vallet dude aside, and we're like, bro, where can we go eat where we can really try all food, where we can really like have the full experience. It was like, Man, go to Mama Africa. Mama Africa. That's where you gotta be, Mama Africa. You're gonna love that.

Please go there.

That's where everybody needs to go if they want to try and experience our shit.

We went there.

I promise you I am not exaggerating when I tell you it is the Rainforest Cafe in Africa?

Do you know what I mean? Like it is African rainforest Cafe. I think you think that pitch sounds a lot worse than it does.

I'm saying that, like I begged you for authenticity, and this is where you sent me because you know, well, it's not even that he doesn't believe me, it's that, you know, if you really if I wanted the experience, I would have to go to a shanty like i would have to be amongst the people where I'm not even safe to be so because this is they're in townships and shit, like I would have to travel outside of where people who look like me even exist, and then I'm in danger. So they're like, nah, man, just go to mym Africa. That's if that's what you want, but like we don't have. It's not available to you because that's how far the fucking gap is between wealth and any version of existence out there.

Is that's fair, that's fair. That yeah, that would not because I've never been to South ever, it seems like that would be difficult. But then I also think about even my experience with Africa, and so much of it is familial that it's like I don't know if I would like go to sier Leone with you and be like, let's go to Kalbat town, Like I don't know if that would even you can come to the village, but that's like way out, you know what I mean. But like so that that, I guess that does informant do you did you did you have any sense any time during the trip did you feel any sense of like camaraderie or like or was it because doesn't you have family in Ghana too? Right? Yeah, but my mom's not from there. She just as an expat who no but like she but she seems to have been able. Has she found like community there and to integrate someone?

Yeah, I mean my mom lives pretty like, uh, sub rural, you know what I mean, Like it ain't fully rural, but it's it's close to.

It kind of vibes. She's not like an Oka or anything.

She's like I think she said she's like an hour outside of a cry, you know what I mean. Like, so it's it's it's she's got to travel to get there or like a half hour to an hour outside of it. So it's like maybe an equivalent of a suburban but it's less developed than what we understand suburbs to be, right, And so I think, nah, like she's definitely built a lot of community there, but I do think even in talking to her, there still remains a type of otherness that she holds in her head about like what what are the fundamental differences between an African person and an African American person? And I don't She's never gonna but she's also like, yeah.

But I'm not like them. That's interesting. I mean, you know that Americanness is huge, right, That is a huge hump to overcome, like black, white whatever. If you're American, you're American, and that is like that, that is like a very different thing than everywhere else as far as I've seen. Yeah, And I think.

Maybe if I'm if I'm going to be empathetic in this part of the conversation, it's it's happening now, and.

It looks like you're having a difficult time with I don't care for it, but I I think maybe there's a.

Level of empathy I can hold for what has always felt like an attack on in my opinion, from African people, and that they're sort of like not want not to be like us. But maybe some of that is the projection that we're always putting out of, Like the americanness, this sort of like we are our own thing and nobody else is a part of it. It's hard to enter a space and not feel othered in that way if that's what people are putting out. So I could respect them being like, well, shit, I don't want you to, you know, fire back at me because I try to mix in too much.

Fuck y'all our own thing. And it is odd because you think about like just like even within America, the communities a lot of times are very set like some people integrate, some people don't like like I have. There's a barber in my shop who's from the DRC, right, but he's like, fully, you would you wouldn't. I mean, I guess you could tell by looking at him, but his mannerism is not that you wouldn't anything about him.

You wouldn't think that, right, But then hey, that's young man from the Congo.

That's hilarious. I didn't even think about that. But then I think about like my sisters who came here later, and they're they yet Okay, they live in California, but they live in African ass existence. Like, yeah, they might pop out and go to a mic EP show or some shit like the Greater Black Community, but they go to African parties, they go to African dances, they go to African wet like. They're not really they're not. They're not super integrated in that way that I only am because I was like born and raised here.

I met a I met a dude on set for something who introduced himself. He was like, yo, you're a comedian. I'm like, yeah, you know. He was like, oh, that's cool. That's cool me too, But I strictly work like the African market. I was like, okay, yeah, and he was like, yeah, I'm strictly on the African side. And I looked him up, and this nigga is killing you know what I mean. I think he's like cooking over there. But but I just think you gotta be doing African shit. And there's an entire market of people who are like, no, we don't want to I don't want to learn about what this is. I want to hear me back to me.

Yeah, they want they want basket mounts. That's crazy. That's his name. I didn't know.

I thought maybe that was a phrase I was unaware of. No, it's just a big I didn't want to be bigger than and be the fuck.

It's not africand so.

Like, no, that's actually a Serra Leone transition and refers to I'm like, no, no, no, I'm just gonna sit there.

We don't even I don't know any Leonian comedians. There were these guys one one pot soldiers, but they just like it's like musical comedy, and they had a big hit song called junks Clubs. I don't we don't really need to get into freaing a freaking even Also, at least it's very similar to British, where it's almost too silly for me, you know what I mean, what you mean?

There's a lot of whoop woo, Okay, I don't know what you do it. That was meant to be the slipping on a banana sound that was I thought African sounds.

Damn, we gotta we gotta learn to love each other for we really gotta get it together. I think this is this is the common ground. But I also think that I'm a lot more American than i'd probably even then, like if you even see my like my cousins and stuff, you'd be like, wow, I don't.

Think of you as a traditionally African guy. I think of you as a very Americanized guy who is African.

Right right right? I mean I still want like a Volvo and stuff. So it's in there, all right. I think we need to take a break. I'm almost certain of it.

When we come back, we're gonna keep talking more about about this, this supposed beef started by the American government between the Africans and the black people of the USA.

We'll be back with more. David Moore, Langston more. My mama told me.

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Had some step cousins that lived in Cabrini Green, which was the housing projects in Chicago, and I remember one year us going over there for like Thanksgiving or some ship and uh, you know, I'm I'm at their their fucking tiny ass like project apartment whatever. We're hanging out, there's nothing to do. And then we get a knock on the door and they open up the door and they have me come to the door and they go, hey, y'all, see, we told you we got a white cousin.

Damn. And they made me stand there, but they.

Go, I told you you white. Look he white. I told y'all we got a white cousin. Look at him.

And I'm standing in the door while.

People in the hallway like, yeah, yeah, they're not even like like whoa.

Fuck, Yeah, what's up, man, good to meet you. They're like, uh yeah, like a zoo animal. That is a complicated story. Ye God, damn it, broo, what happened? What happened? Right after that? I told on them and I would listen to them get beat God.

Jere me guy, if you told their dad and I listened outside the door while he beat them incessantly.

I know that a lot of you are watching this on YouTube. Run that back if you want to see a villain origin story. Jesus Christ, everything that just happened is crazy, Doug. It was a crazy day for me. That was a rough Thanksgiving, my man, yo, because that's it's also your family that hurts where it's like.

But it's now Yeah, that's what makes it even crazier is like, these ain't even my real people.

These are my step people. So I didn't want to be around y'all in the first place. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was.

I wasn't even comfortable calling y'all my cousins, damn.

And now y'all are making me this white cousin that I like, I don't even like y'all like that. That is that is. I don't think I'm even qualified to talk to you about the full implications of that.

And look how much crazy if you really want to unpack the shit. Look, I'm also from the suburbs, so like you brought me to the projects, which I ain't. I don't be over here like that, y'all. Ain't my people like that? I am othered in every sense of the word. And then you put me in the hallway to show me off like a zoo animal.

The hallway is nasty.

They didn't even have them coming.

I'm wearing a Thanksgiving sweater. Bro I had on a green turtleneck. Man like an asshole.

Oh man, I had this curlya. Yeah, I know it was girling. I was like and probably a long ass. Come on, man, I didn't have no beard. I ain't have you know what I mean? There was just you couldn't hoop that good yet come on, there was nothing to it armor. You had nothing to protect yourself. I was.

There wasn't a video game nearby I could reach for and be like, but I'll kill.

You on these sticks. There was nothing. I had nothing.

I was so alone, and these motherfuckers made me a zoo animal.

Yeah, I'm gonna listen to them get their ass whooped.

God damn it, that's a hard story to hear.

Bro. People ask me how I got into comedy. Must have been that day. I've had to live through it. Man.

Yeah, And I'm not saying that you could have a good life and not for me, but you do have to take hells like that.

You gotta get it like it does inform your whole view of the world. Yes, because yeah, I've taken mind none that I would love to publicly state like you did. I respect your willingness to trust these animals who listen to our podcast.

But he's the reason I struggle to trust the Jerry Seinfeld as a comedian is because of like, Bro, when where's your version of that story? If you come from money, you don't really have to be doing this. I get that there's sort of like a lineage of like Jewish sort of identity built around comedy. So maybe that's where you sort of found your connection. But the drive to keep doing this shit at seventy years old, if there's not an origin story here, man, some of this shit just feels like word math and I swim a fuck.

That's how I feel about it. There's no heart to it. I'm sorry. I'm trying to move forward from that. It's so heavy. It was. It was a hard day for me, big dog.

I say this, one of the more cynical things that I've ever experienced as it relates to Africa and conversations around Africa, was with you. This was at your house in Denver, your your gorgeous apartment loft.

Dare I say, yeah, it's a loft. Fuck all right.

Anyways, was when we were sitting on your couch and we watched that YouTube video of that white man traveling to like quote unquote remote Africa and handing out sour patch kids. He was like hand making fucking people eat sour patch kids out of his raw palm, just pouring it into his own palm and then they eat a sour patch kid. And he was just filming it to see Africans react to try and candy for the first time.

Yeah, that was that was dark. That was brutal. I'd be hate watching some ship man. That was brutal. Fuck. That was so bad. I forgot about that.

I'll never forget that because because not only was it fucking sick and insane that he wanted to do that in the first place, but the Africans weren't even having that intense of a reaction to the ship because it was just like it's.

We're not it's not that crazy. There's still people, animals. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's just people.

You're not giving a baby a lemon. I know what, I can see the little crystals on it. What's it gonna be sour?

Yeah? Yeah, yeah. Also you're weirder for eating that all the time than they are.

Yeah, like we're talking about in the grand scheme of things.

If anything, what you're doing is like introducing a drug, like you're you're just handing out drugs to people. This isn't like and insane, like you're blowing their mind. You're just poisoning though.

I mean, come on, you see what Sugar's doing in Mexico. That's not the same thing. Actually, I don't think that's fair. That was crazy. That's a button.

There's something for you that you created.

So all that being said, man, we've really covered a lot of ground this episode. I don't even know if we did good or bad. I think it was a conversation to have. Yeah, this stuff is good to talk about before we start wrapping it up. I do want to try to find this video to see. I don't think they're going to let that out. That's crazy, bro, because that's ultimately the conspiracy theory of it all. That's the easiest shit. The idea that the government has a video telling foreign black people to be afraid of America and blacks. That to me is crazy because it also speaks to like, that's what they're telling via media in all things, and maybe even ourselves to a degree, that's what everybody's telling the world about American black people, you know what I mean?

Yeah, Yeah, I'm I mean, it's such a fascinating thing to somehow create hierarchies for the lowest tier of people, do you.

Know what I mean? That Like, even when you are.

The lowest, lowest, lowest fucking person in the world, you still have to be able to keep existing in some ways. You still have to have somebody who you think you're better than.

Yeah, I mean, but that's how they they have to do it, right, It's the magic of it, right, Yeah, and then your complacent, right, Like I mean, I think that's the story of poor white people, right, at least we're not them they're taking our job, you know what I mean, we were okay, if it weren't for y'all, you know.

Yeah, this would all be a different experience had you not been here, or had you not done what you did.

Blah blah blah blah.

Right, yeah, no, it's it's it's a fascinating magic. I think that white people figured it out very early, and to their to their credit, they do it well. They fucking nail it every time of figuring out a way to make people distrust and hate each other.

But all that being said, I believe in that video. I believe that video. I don't think we're going to be able to find it, but I yeah, that video exists.

I looked it up and in all I'm seeing at least at the beginning of this search, and I'll spend a few hours on this after we log off. But there's a lot a lot of content of people asking do black people and Africans hate each other? And why do black people in Africans hate each other? But not a lot of information of like white the government taught.

Us to do this, and I don't think they do. I think that like it's systemic, But I think at the Core. I don't feel that way because I don't feel like we're inherently hateful I either group M you know what I mean. I do think, if anything, it's more put upon and systemic, But I don't I don't think that like I don't know, man, When I think of Africa, I do think of like love and really resilient people who are open to life and other people despite what the world is shown.

Yeah, I think that's fair to say. I even to tack onto that, I would say, so much of it is maybe less about like even needing to teach us to hate because if that, if what you're saying is true, and I think I believe what you're saying, then our want, our willingness to hate is not at the forefront of who we are. But what they can do and smart strategies that they employ is to just keep our information separate. Right, Like how many African books do you read in the average American classroom? And even if you are reading an African book, how much of it is something that you had to like seek out on your own.

You know what I mean? Or it's probably like things fall apart, which I bet you taught I didn't teach it.

I did read it and took an African studies class in college where I read that, But I wouldn't have read it, I think, had I just been taking general English classes, maybe somewhere along the line you read that. But like that's their only African book.

That's what I mean is that's like the the one, and that story is sort of like such a sad African story. It's a very like affirming African story if you already have negative stereotypes, E.

Sad place and I like ocon quote, but that's yeah, I think it's a great piece.

It's just not it ain't fixing my brain about what this place is right right right, So you know you want to fix your brain, just go watch some Nigerian movies. A lot a lot of good magic in those, stay off of YouTube.

They almost a man handing out sour bad skins, and it'll make you feel fucking.

I don't know how I thought we were just gonna go do a comedy show after that. That That shit gave me a chill up my spine. Sometimes you see true evil, and it does do that sometimes a few times in my life I've been unlucky enough to witness what I think was true evil. And ye, that's the feeling you get out of it.

It really did feel like true evil when the dude wasn't even like young enough that I could like chop it up to be like, oh, he's just a young dude figuring himself out, and he took a big swing. This was like a fifty year old man handing out a candy he don't eat to adults and expecting them to have like silly, sour face reactions.

Oh Jesus Christ, Yeah it was. It was ugly shit. But hey, we're here now, and prayers up for those uh almost certainly dead Africans. Yeah, and look at you. You made it out the hallway. I made it out the all the way. Man, you got a house, You got a family. I got a house. Them kids got beaten. So everybody's okay. Yeah, that story is a loss for everyone involved.

There's so much I can tell you about that family that if I told you now would uh would almost certainly fall back on me, and I I don't want that that. Rather, I'd rather fair I'll tell you a lot more about how fucked up that family was. But man, tough day.

Tough day. The turtleneck is what really puts it into perspective. I don't know why. That's just like the most vivid because then it just all comes together.

Yeah, it's a real uh Okay, I see how they got they were getting.

I see how you feel so alone. Okay, you never had a chance. That's the thing about comedians. We all feel very lonely no matter what. It's a problem anyways, but let's not ever talk about comedy on here. It's kind of my favorite part about this podcast. Yeah, we just uh, I don't tell you to avoid the thing that makes us sick. Yeah, yeah, my poison. I guess we did it. Yeah, we did it. I think we did it.

Thank you, Missy for for what I hope was uh. I hope it was a helpful conversation, or at least an affirming conversation. It seems like we very much believe that, even if it isn't the government actively trying to make us hate each other, although it sounds like this videotape probably does exist, there is a ton of benefit to keeping us separated and angry at each other or at the very least suspicious of each other, and we hope to change that. Although I'm thirty seven years old, Davis thirty seven years old. We're pretty said in our ways. Good luck, Yeah, yeah it happened. Good luck, booty scratchers.

Yo, we almost cut out, We almost got out of here, you piece of shit. Fucking god damn me. Yeah, and that's where it comes from. That's that's you see this last that's the guy was get get beat. That's a child delighted. Oh god damn. You want to tell the people where they can find you?

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Oh God, It's so good, so good, so good and tasty.

That's exactly what I needed right there. And if you want to send us your own drops, your own conspiracy theories, if you want to prove to us that that video does exist, and if we watch it, we'll die in seven days like the niggas we didn't see in the ring. Send it all to my Mama pod at gmail dot com. We would love to hear from you the like, subscribe, review, rate, Zimbabwe, do it all.

I don't know, Bye, bitch, Someone get this jigaboo away from me.

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