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You know what, I hated it at first. I'm not even gonna be one of those people that was like from the beginning I knew that Liangeloba was sitting on a hit. I really hated it, and I think the Internet has kind of forced my hand into into seeing the vision that he had.

You know what, I hated it at first. I'm not even gonna be one of those people that was like from the beginning I knew that Liangeloba was sitting on a hit. I really hated it, and I think the Internet has kind of forced my hand into into seeing the vision that he had.

I think it just sounds like a time that I was listening to a lot of music as well. You know what I'm saying. It's like, it's not it's not as good of a version of that song as the Cash Money Millionaires would have made, but it does sound like a song that the Cash Money Millionaires with.

I think it just sounds like a time that I was listening to a lot of music as well. You know what I'm saying. It's like, it's not it's not as good of a version of that song as the Cash Money Millionaires would have made, but it does sound like a song that the Cash Money Millionaires with.

It's a real it's like early flow Rider, do you know what I mean?

It's a real it's like early flow Rider, do you know what I mean?

Where it like?

Where it like?

I think I think you're thinking of flow Rider as he is now as this sort of like clownish version of you know what I mean? He makes Miami songs now whatever, Right, but there was an era of flow Rider where he was like closer to Rick Ross than he was to what he is.

I think I think you're thinking of flow Rider as he is now as this sort of like clownish version of you know what I mean? He makes Miami songs now whatever, Right, but there was an era of flow Rider where he was like closer to Rick Ross than he was to what he is.

What was the first flow Rider song?

What was the first flow Rider song?

I don't remember, To be honest with you, there's a there's a part of me that feels like flow Rider has always been here and it's scared.

I don't remember, To be honest with you, there's a there's a part of me that feels like flow Rider has always been here and it's scared.

No way, no way, no.

No way, no way, no.

There's a part of me that feels like time there has never been a time without flow Ride.

There's a part of me that feels like time there has never been a time without flow Ride.

Because I don't I I believe you. I don't remember a flow Rider era where I was like, you know what that shit is? Actually okay.

Because I don't I I believe you. I don't remember a flow Rider era where I was like, you know what that shit is? Actually okay.

I don't think it was okay, but I think it hits with a type of nostalgia that that we all yearn.

I don't think it was okay, but I think it hits with a type of nostalgia that that we all yearn.

For, right, I mean, it is fun that my coolest era is now the era that kids are obsessed with, Like, damn, we're about to wear two T shirts again. It's good us.

For, right, I mean, it is fun that my coolest era is now the era that kids are obsessed with, Like, damn, we're about to wear two T shirts again. It's good us.

There was no way I will walk out the house with one T shirt and come on in my homeless one T shirt. Come on, man, you put a T shirt on and then you put another T shirt on and you.

There was no way I will walk out the house with one T shirt and come on in my homeless one T shirt. Come on, man, you put a T shirt on and then you put another T shirt on and you.

Show a little bit of that T shirt underneath. It's usually a white T shirt. White T shirts are for underneath. I get T shirts are for on top.

Show a little bit of that T shirt underneath. It's usually a white T shirt. White T shirts are for underneath. I get T shirts are for on top.

I used to wear a white T shirt on top of a white T shirt. I like, I've done this is my this is my bummy shirt. But I got to put on a nice shirt.

I used to wear a white T shirt on top of a white T shirt. I like, I've done this is my this is my bummy shirt. But I got to put on a nice shirt.

A white on I used to. I used to be like working out for football in two T shirts, like in the weight room, two T shirts.

A white on I used to. I used to be like working out for football in two T shirts, like in the weight room, two T shirts.

Dog, it makes no sense. This, I'll protect my shirt on top is a shirt underneath. That way, my skin never touches the shirt. It's still clean shirt.

Dog, it makes no sense. This, I'll protect my shirt on top is a shirt underneath. That way, my skin never touches the shirt. It's still clean shirt.

But then if you ever got the ratio off, you also look like a crazy person. Oh you look nuts. Like if the undershirt was like a little too big and.

But then if you ever got the ratio off, you also look like a crazy person. Oh you look nuts. Like if the undershirt was like a little too big and.

Had like had that sloppy ass collar, you know what I mean. It was like, oh man, you look like you look like an animal. You look undershirt has to have the tight collar. Overshirt, I have a loose collar. You let white to the neck, You let undershirt, You let overshirt be with ever the fuck the overshirt wants to be. Yeah, yeah, undershirt better be clean.

Had like had that sloppy ass collar, you know what I mean. It was like, oh man, you look like you look like an animal. You look undershirt has to have the tight collar. Overshirt, I have a loose collar. You let white to the neck, You let undershirt, You let overshirt be with ever the fuck the overshirt wants to be. Yeah, yeah, undershirt better be clean.

Because they know you got another shirt off. I remember for years after that era, it being very difficult to go out just wearing one T shirt, like to untrain. That was like it never felt you're like, oh no, but where's my other shirt?

Because they know you got another shirt off. I remember for years after that era, it being very difficult to go out just wearing one T shirt, like to untrain. That was like it never felt you're like, oh no, but where's my other shirt?

At It took a minute in my brain for sure.

At It took a minute in my brain for sure.

And honestly, if I'll be truly honest, I'm still programmed. I still want that other shirt.

And honestly, if I'll be truly honest, I'm still programmed. I still want that other shirt.

Moments where you're like, yeah, I would never wear and I've seen people do this. I would never wear a hoodie without a shirt.

Moments where you're like, yeah, I would never wear and I've seen people do this. I would never wear a hoodie without a shirt.

No, I want I even now I'm kind of upset. I want you to see a little bit of the shirt underneath the hoodie.

No, I want I even now I'm kind of upset. I want you to see a little bit of the shirt underneath the hoodie.

I like when this this part show, I'm like, yeah.

I like when this this part show, I'm like, yeah.

This is nasty. I like it on the bottom a little bit.

This is nasty. I like it on the bottom a little bit.

Oh, just a little bit.

Oh, just a little bit.

You to be I need you to know that I had a shirt as large as my hoodie, and that's how I'm feeling.

You to be I need you to know that I had a shirt as large as my hoodie, and that's how I'm feeling.

I like that it was a it was a size issue for you. Yeah, might be bigger than a hoodie. Fuck you, I got good. I got huge news, y'all. Oh my ship big. I ain't got a small thing in my closet.

I like that it was a it was a size issue for you. Yeah, might be bigger than a hoodie. Fuck you, I got good. I got huge news, y'all. Oh my ship big. I ain't got a small thing in my closet.

Motherfucker.

Motherfucker.

There's no the numbers. There's no two xls in here. It's all three t's three XL t's. I did never like though tall teas. I always felt stupid if my T shirt went near my knees. So that's too far.

There's no the numbers. There's no two xls in here. It's all three t's three XL t's. I did never like though tall teas. I always felt stupid if my T shirt went near my knees. So that's too far.

Yeah, I didn't. I didn't care for that. I thought tall teas had to be tasteful tall. Yeah, you had to be the three xt is for tasteful. You have to be really tall, yeah, or at least it had to be creating the illusion that you were. It couldn't be that thing. I want to look like soldier boy. That shit looked crazy. No, he looks stupid or fat.

Yeah, I didn't. I didn't care for that. I thought tall teas had to be tasteful tall. Yeah, you had to be the three xt is for tasteful. You have to be really tall, yeah, or at least it had to be creating the illusion that you were. It couldn't be that thing. I want to look like soldier boy. That shit looked crazy. No, he looks stupid or fat.

It's like because then it's just draping off of a bad bill.

It's like because then it's just draping off of a bad bill.

All the er was not for y'all, And that's that's fucked up.

All the er was not for y'all, And that's that's fucked up.

No, not it all. It's crazy that our raw with the bag of his clothes did not suit us at all.

No, not it all. It's crazy that our raw with the bag of his clothes did not suit us at all.

No, we we really made it still like a skinny interpretation of big clothes.

No, we we really made it still like a skinny interpretation of big clothes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's.

Meant to elongate. Like the Selo was wearing tall teas and he looked fucking nuts.

Meant to elongate. Like the Selo was wearing tall teas and he looked fucking nuts.

He looked bad. Especially if you got like a real solid belly, it just high. You get that tall hot, you look like basketball.

He looked bad. Especially if you got like a real solid belly, it just high. You get that tall hot, you look like basketball.

All right, we all wearing tall ties and this nigga got a mumma on.

All right, we all wearing tall ties and this nigga got a mumma on.

Hagen. It's drinked all weird.

Hagen. It's drinked all weird.

Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

Well, anyways, I'm glad it's coming back.

Well, anyways, I'm glad it's coming back.

Thanks Jellous, Thank you Leangelo.

Thanks Jellous, Thank you Leangelo.

You you.

You you.

Have proven once again the strength of LeVar ball and and his family. You can't miss the man, can't miss.

Have proven once again the strength of LeVar ball and and his family. You can't miss the man, can't miss.

We all have a dog. No, it's just some three boys.

We all have a dog. No, it's just some three boys.

Yeah, and his their mom is sick and so LeVar in some ways has been doing this all by himself.

Yeah, and his their mom is sick and so LeVar in some ways has been doing this all by himself.

Baby. He didn't even fix his teeth. He got front facing. That was always crazy to me because I think he had the money to do it, but it was like maybe like Nads with the chip tooth, where he's like, no, that's just me.

Baby. He didn't even fix his teeth. He got front facing. That was always crazy to me because I think he had the money to do it, but it was like maybe like Nads with the chip tooth, where he's like, no, that's just me.

No, I really think and this is what I'm gonna I'm gonna go out on a limb here. I really think he's just a good fucking guy.

No, I really think and this is what I'm gonna I'm gonna go out on a limb here. I really think he's just a good fucking guy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think that's fair because he's a psychopath. But I don't think that his his goal in this was to legit like become like this big body bends ass dude.

I think that's fair because he's a psychopath. But I don't think that his his goal in this was to legit like become like this big body bends ass dude.

Oh you think it was really just my boys are big ballers.

Oh you think it was really just my boys are big ballers.

I think he really just wanted to turn those boys into kings.

I think he really just wanted to turn those boys into kings.

I mean, to be fair, he has stepped away. It's not like he it's not like he like he like took the platform and launched it, and now we see LeVar ball content all the time. He really fell back once they kind of went and did what they were gonna do.

I mean, to be fair, he has stepped away. It's not like he it's not like he like he like took the platform and launched it, and now we see LeVar ball content all the time. He really fell back once they kind of went and did what they were gonna do.

He got everything he wanted and he chilled.

He got everything he wanted and he chilled.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, I addressing like Steve Harvey. He didn't. He didn't segue this into like Big Baller TV. It just he was like, I'm gonna get shoes so that i can help pay for these boys to keep getting more famous and more successful. And then at the point that I've got it where it needs to be, I'm gonna get the fuck out the way.

Yeah, I addressing like Steve Harvey. He didn't. He didn't segue this into like Big Baller TV. It just he was like, I'm gonna get shoes so that i can help pay for these boys to keep getting more famous and more successful. And then at the point that I've got it where it needs to be, I'm gonna get the fuck out the way.

Yeah, I'm I'm pretty okay with it. You can't say he didn't do right by them boys.

Yeah, I'm I'm pretty okay with it. You can't say he didn't do right by them boys.

He did fucking fantastic by them boys, and we had some fun along the way.

He did fucking fantastic by them boys, and we had some fun along the way.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, do I think he's a you know, a hero, No, I don't, but I do think, God damn, he's fucking he's just a decent man who yeah, out on everybody's nerves for a little bit and who still it was me thirty eight dollars. That's not thing he does. I'm gonna be honest with you. I think what you did was as close to a GoFundMe for LaMelo ball. No I wanted the shirt though, Yeah, yeah, no, I understand. But but you also wanted LaMelo. Do you know what I mean, Like in the back of your mind at the time, at the time, he wanted Lonzo. You didn't see the vision, Mama, he did?

No, do I think he's a you know, a hero, No, I don't, but I do think, God damn, he's fucking he's just a decent man who yeah, out on everybody's nerves for a little bit and who still it was me thirty eight dollars. That's not thing he does. I'm gonna be honest with you. I think what you did was as close to a GoFundMe for LaMelo ball. No I wanted the shirt though, Yeah, yeah, no, I understand. But but you also wanted LaMelo. Do you know what I mean, Like in the back of your mind at the time, at the time, he wanted Lonzo. You didn't see the vision, Mama, he did?

Well, yeah, because that's he's the coldest one, even back then.

Well, yeah, because that's he's the coldest one, even back then.

But no, I'm saying beyond what what the assessment was, I'm saying that LeVar knew from the beginning that he was going to turn three boys into emperors, and even when none of us could, but he proved everyone wrong. And if we had to give him a little bit of money, a little seed money with no results for I think that's just what you have to You have to chop it up to the game, baby.

But no, I'm saying beyond what what the assessment was, I'm saying that LeVar knew from the beginning that he was going to turn three boys into emperors, and even when none of us could, but he proved everyone wrong. And if we had to give him a little bit of money, a little seed money with no results for I think that's just what you have to You have to chop it up to the game, baby.

That's fair. I've donated more to go fundmees that I wasn't sure we're all that real.

That's fair. I've donated more to go fundmees that I wasn't sure we're all that real.

There's a few people I know who fully faked an illness that I gave money to. Damn that you know, personally, I don't get that money back, you know what I mean?

There's a few people I know who fully faked an illness that I gave money to. Damn that you know, personally, I don't get that money back, you know what I mean?

Yeah, I man, I've got on there, because do you ever go on there and then you try to like I've got on there pretty fucked up, to be honest, But you go on there and you try to find like the real ones. And then now you're like buying Thanksgiving dinner for someone who maybe or maybe doesn't have a family.

Yeah, I man, I've got on there, because do you ever go on there and then you try to like I've got on there pretty fucked up, to be honest, But you go on there and you try to find like the real ones. And then now you're like buying Thanksgiving dinner for someone who maybe or maybe doesn't have a family.

No, I've never done it, like like a guy going to the pound.

No, I've never done it, like like a guy going to the pound.

That's not what it's like. That's not what it's like. It's that you first got money, you have a little bit of a you have a little bit of a survivor's guilt, you have a little bit of remorse for all this extra income you have. You're on a plane drinking, and you feel like you have to do some good in the world because it's Thanksgiving.

That's not what it's like. That's not what it's like. It's that you first got money, you have a little bit of a you have a little bit of a survivor's guilt, you have a little bit of remorse for all this extra income you have. You're on a plane drinking, and you feel like you have to do some good in the world because it's Thanksgiving.

I hear you.

I hear you.

Yeah, But then I don't know where that went. You know, No, you never will.

Yeah, But then I don't know where that went. You know, No, you never will.

And and I think.

And and I think.

That Native American family have a Thanksgiving didn't. I don't know. It's weird for me to donate.

That Native American family have a Thanksgiving didn't. I don't know. It's weird for me to donate.

Here's what I'll say. And I feel this way about all forms of charity, both in person, online, whatever it is. I think that our responsibility as human beings is to just care about each other. It is not to care about each other with proof, do you know what I mean? So, like, that's because one of mine I'm a cop. Now, yeah, you lose your house. That's as you just let people go be people, and unfortunately people don't always do what we hope they're gonna do. But that is the human experience as much as anything I think. So I give money, I don't think about it. If I have it, then then it is yours. And if I don't have it, then I also don't have to burden myself with being like, but what why didn't I It's just like, nah, that's just I'm a participant in the human experience. You do it anonymously, unhigg.

Here's what I'll say. And I feel this way about all forms of charity, both in person, online, whatever it is. I think that our responsibility as human beings is to just care about each other. It is not to care about each other with proof, do you know what I mean? So, like, that's because one of mine I'm a cop. Now, yeah, you lose your house. That's as you just let people go be people, and unfortunately people don't always do what we hope they're gonna do. But that is the human experience as much as anything I think. So I give money, I don't think about it. If I have it, then then it is yours. And if I don't have it, then I also don't have to burden myself with being like, but what why didn't I It's just like, nah, that's just I'm a participant in the human experience. You do it anonymously, unhigg.

No, no, no, Nigga's diabolical.

No, no, no, Nigga's diabolical.

Name down there.

Name down there.

Oh oh good man. That's where I'm a fucking idiot. I don't put my name on it. Sometimes and they're not. This is a stupid conversation. But sometimes you put it, you don't put your name on it, and he'll be like, this fucking loser didn't go anonymous. I know he's richer than me, and he getting twenty bucks.

Oh oh good man. That's where I'm a fucking idiot. I don't put my name on it. Sometimes and they're not. This is a stupid conversation. But sometimes you put it, you don't put your name on it, and he'll be like, this fucking loser didn't go anonymous. I know he's richer than me, and he getting twenty bucks.

Yeah nah, I mean it does get you in trouble when you start and I feel like I'm just sort of hedging into that space where people start to think you have money. And I don't have to be clear, it's not like I'm sitting on like some insane amount of money. But you start to property, you start to build up the image. See how nasty people talk to you when.

Yeah nah, I mean it does get you in trouble when you start and I feel like I'm just sort of hedging into that space where people start to think you have money. And I don't have to be clear, it's not like I'm sitting on like some insane amount of money. But you start to property, you start to build up the image. See how nasty people talk to you when.

You that's not that's not nasty. That's not nasty. You are beautiful, that's not nasty. Don't do that. That's not nasty.

You that's not that's not nasty. That's not nasty. You are beautiful, that's not nasty. Don't do that. That's not nasty.

And and I think, I think with that, you then become aware. I remember when Virgil, wasn't it Virgil that got in trouble because he gave like fifty bucks to somebody who was like dying.

And and I think, I think with that, you then become aware. I remember when Virgil, wasn't it Virgil that got in trouble because he gave like fifty bucks to somebody who was like dying.

That's hilarious.

That's hilarious.

It was like crazy. I can't remember what it was that he was giving charity too, but he gave it was like fifty dollars and he was like the head of Louis Vatan at the time. And people digital panhandling is crazy. It's very because you can't expect you can't expect famous people. You can't expect rich people to give you their money. That's just not how works, man. You can't expect anybody to get you money. Really, No, everyone's in a while there'll be somebody who will posts like Elon Musk has fifty billion dollars.

It was like crazy. I can't remember what it was that he was giving charity too, but he gave it was like fifty dollars and he was like the head of Louis Vatan at the time. And people digital panhandling is crazy. It's very because you can't expect you can't expect famous people. You can't expect rich people to give you their money. That's just not how works, man. You can't expect anybody to get you money. Really, No, everyone's in a while there'll be somebody who will posts like Elon Musk has fifty billion dollars.

If he gave just a billion dollars to eighty people, we all be and it's.

If he gave just a billion dollars to eighty people, we all be and it's.

Like, bro, what do you when does that ever happened? What does that ever happens?

Like, bro, what do you when does that ever happened? What does that ever happens?

In a believable setting?

In a believable setting?

You're right, he's not doing you think you got a billion dollars to give it to you?

You're right, he's not doing you think you got a billion dollars to give it to you?

Are you? Come on it. That's not the mentality that gets you a billion dollars, and it's not how the game works.

Are you? Come on it. That's not the mentality that gets you a billion dollars, and it's not how the game works.

He can't give it to you because if he gives it to you, now he's got a new competitor.

He can't give it to you because if he gives it to you, now he's got a new competitor.

You know what I mean.

You know what I mean.

Right now he's got a problem because you're gonna sit there and figure out what to do with a billion dollars. And it's like, oh, shut up, shut up.

Right now he's got a problem because you're gonna sit there and figure out what to do with a billion dollars. And it's like, oh, shut up, shut up.

I love it like I would love it if you did. And listen, if you gave me a billion dollars, I probably give most of it away too. But that's because I'm not a guy who could earn a billion dollars. You said, so listen it really go fund me, y'all.

I love it like I would love it if you did. And listen, if you gave me a billion dollars, I probably give most of it away too. But that's because I'm not a guy who could earn a billion dollars. You said, so listen it really go fund me, y'all.

Want you want to give somebody in amount of money that he feels bad about so much so, but he gives it back to boys and girls clubs and whatnot.

Want you want to give somebody in amount of money that he feels bad about so much so, but he gives it back to boys and girls clubs and whatnot.

Give it to me trying to give this shit away. And I'm not even rich. I've seen the type.

Give it to me trying to give this shit away. And I'm not even rich. I've seen the type.

Of people who know how to like flip money into millions of dollars. In fact, we have people in our community that like are real like savvy in that way where like not just oh, you've earned a million dollars because of your talent, where they go like, I've earned this much, but I could flip this shit into way way more because I understand business and strategy and all these different things. Those are not insane people. They are specific people, but they're not fucking crazy. They're just specific and strategic people who can flip money into a billion dollars. You have to be a psychopath.

Of people who know how to like flip money into millions of dollars. In fact, we have people in our community that like are real like savvy in that way where like not just oh, you've earned a million dollars because of your talent, where they go like, I've earned this much, but I could flip this shit into way way more because I understand business and strategy and all these different things. Those are not insane people. They are specific people, but they're not fucking crazy. They're just specific and strategic people who can flip money into a billion dollars. You have to be a psychopath.

It's already. It's like a different because you have to view the left, you have to view it on that level, and that level is all imagined. It's all perceived. You know what I'm saying. We're not dealing with people anymore. No, it's like a whole other thing you're dealing You're dealing with ideas. Like money at that scale is more of an idea than it is a resource and that you can mobilize it and stuff like that. But it's like it's imaginary numbers and that's like, come on, baby, that's not that's not that's not what we're doing. The people who are gonna give that with money away. I work for everything I got, probably always gonna. I don't even know if I'm gonna figure out how to make any money make money for me.

It's already. It's like a different because you have to view the left, you have to view it on that level, and that level is all imagined. It's all perceived. You know what I'm saying. We're not dealing with people anymore. No, it's like a whole other thing you're dealing You're dealing with ideas. Like money at that scale is more of an idea than it is a resource and that you can mobilize it and stuff like that. But it's like it's imaginary numbers and that's like, come on, baby, that's not that's not that's not what we're doing. The people who are gonna give that with money away. I work for everything I got, probably always gonna. I don't even know if I'm gonna figure out how to make any money make money for me.

Are in the bank, bro, bro.

Are in the bank, bro, bro.

It is not a portfolio, and I'm thought about it. I've been like, damn, I should figure out I should probably put this somewhere, make it, make it, make it shake. I don't know how. I don't know how I'm gonna buy a bunch of weed and send it to people. It's really the only that's really the only come up I know about.

It is not a portfolio, and I'm thought about it. I've been like, damn, I should figure out I should probably put this somewhere, make it, make it, make it shake. I don't know how. I don't know how I'm gonna buy a bunch of weed and send it to people. It's really the only that's really the only come up I know about.

Nah. People people really know how to flip their money and be strategic, and some people they are able to do something way scarier and flip humans, like flip the human experience. And I think that's how you make a billion dollars.

Nah. People people really know how to flip their money and be strategic, and some people they are able to do something way scarier and flip humans, like flip the human experience. And I think that's how you make a billion dollars.

And that's why I keep the moral high ground over here, because I'm like, I don't respect money. It's not real.

And that's why I keep the moral high ground over here, because I'm like, I don't respect money. It's not real.

Yeah, and you are you just can't get it.

Yeah, and you are you just can't get it.

So no, no, no, I don't respect it. It's a joke. What if there were no countries, the borders aren't real.

So no, no, no, I don't respect it. It's a joke. What if there were no countries, the borders aren't real.

What if God was one of us?

What if God was one of us?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Come on, who made these ola gardens? Anyways, I don't I don't respect your system. Therefore I do not play. Do I have more money than I ever have? Yes? And am I trying to go back? Hell no, I'll kill you. But also I don't respect the system.

Come on, who made these ola gardens? Anyways, I don't I don't respect your system. Therefore I do not play. Do I have more money than I ever have? Yes? And am I trying to go back? Hell no, I'll kill you. But also I don't respect the system.

No, it's crazy.

No, it's crazy.

I had to did I tell you? I had to go through that. I had a real epiphany about fifty cent the other day.

I had to did I tell you? I had to go through that. I had a real epiphany about fifty cent the other day.

Oh no, you love fifty No, I still love fifty cent, But I was just watching it and I was just like, I don't know, man, that's just what that guy's built for.

Oh no, you love fifty No, I still love fifty cent, But I was just watching it and I was just like, I don't know, man, that's just what that guy's built for.

He likes that I'm kind of doing exactly. I like my life that I made. There's no there's You could have put me in the same exact life as fifty cent, day to day, completely different outcomes. I don't want to do that. I don't.

He likes that I'm kind of doing exactly. I like my life that I made. There's no there's You could have put me in the same exact life as fifty cent, day to day, completely different outcomes. I don't want to do that. I don't.

I don't want to be a shark. He always thought it was gonna be funny to be mean to his son. Do you know what I mean? Right, that's real.

I don't want to be a shark. He always thought it was gonna be funny to be mean to his son. Do you know what I mean? Right, that's real.

He is.

He is.

We all have that do dude in our lives where you're like, he thinks it's funny to be like fucking mean to a little kid.

We all have that do dude in our lives where you're like, he thinks it's funny to be like fucking mean to a little kid.

Yeah, And it's like, god, bless, I respect skill. You're the best at what you're trying to do.

Yeah, And it's like, god, bless, I respect skill. You're the best at what you're trying to do.

And I bro as far as being Mandy your son and making it funny fifty cents the.

And I bro as far as being Mandy your son and making it funny fifty cents the.

King, and just like in being a business shark, who's not really shark coded anymore.

King, and just like in being a business shark, who's not really shark coded anymore.

You know what I mean. I think that's the same mentality, do you know what I mean? Like, I'm all of that cooks together to make this shark of a human being in all forms. And I think he was always going to be a shark. And for a while it was on the streets, and then after a while it became just being a bully to other celebrities and his children.

You know what I mean. I think that's the same mentality, do you know what I mean? Like, I'm all of that cooks together to make this shark of a human being in all forms. And I think he was always going to be a shark. And for a while it was on the streets, and then after a while it became just being a bully to other celebrities and his children.

Which is ultimately great, not the children part, but the other celebrities thing is funny. Give me my money, that's great. It's great to see celebrity scared of a bully.

Which is ultimately great, not the children part, but the other celebrities thing is funny. Give me my money, that's great. It's great to see celebrity scared of a bully.

It's nice. He's really the best bully. I can't think of a better bully. It's really the greatest bully. Yeah, he's not really a bully because he's like, I don't know, it's complicated with you know what's crazy And I've never thought about this until this moment, But I'm curious to hear your thoughts. How do you think Trump would fare against fifty.

It's nice. He's really the best bully. I can't think of a better bully. It's really the greatest bully. Yeah, he's not really a bully because he's like, I don't know, it's complicated with you know what's crazy And I've never thought about this until this moment, But I'm curious to hear your thoughts. How do you think Trump would fare against fifty.

Stiffid? Is this like a queen's get the money type of things? Is that what you're asking me?

Stiffid? Is this like a queen's get the money type of things? Is that what you're asking me?

Yeah, Like if fifty decided to like fully troll Trump, like fully go at him online, why do you think Trump would hold up? Because he would come back? Trump is not He's a fighter, for sure. He's a fighter, and he likes trolling. He likes being on the internet talking nasty with people. That's a game he lives into. How who's coming out on top in that? And obviously the public will respond the way the public responds. I'm not suggesting that MAGA would turn on him and suddenly Trump is no longer you know what he is. But I'm saying, like, pound for pound, who you think we're gonna walk away and be like the winner?

Yeah, Like if fifty decided to like fully troll Trump, like fully go at him online, why do you think Trump would hold up? Because he would come back? Trump is not He's a fighter, for sure. He's a fighter, and he likes trolling. He likes being on the internet talking nasty with people. That's a game he lives into. How who's coming out on top in that? And obviously the public will respond the way the public responds. I'm not suggesting that MAGA would turn on him and suddenly Trump is no longer you know what he is. But I'm saying, like, pound for pound, who you think we're gonna walk away and be like the winner?

Is that's tough because like in that and in a fully in what what we're talking about is a fight with no stakes, like no political implications and stuff like that just like that kind of thing. They're both kind of unfadable, you know what I mean. It's tough. It's it's like that is a difficult because Trump, man, I mean, fifty has a lot of moments. I don't think he has a fist up after he got shot type moment. But he got shot nine times. That's how we got you know, nobody was there.

Is that's tough because like in that and in a fully in what what we're talking about is a fight with no stakes, like no political implications and stuff like that just like that kind of thing. They're both kind of unfadable, you know what I mean. It's tough. It's it's like that is a difficult because Trump, man, I mean, fifty has a lot of moments. I don't think he has a fist up after he got shot type moment. But he got shot nine times. That's how we got you know, nobody was there.

Oh man, I hate that that we've reached that era.

Oh man, I hate that that we've reached that era.

That's what it is though, that that you got fifty he got shot in the car.

That's what it is though, that that you got fifty he got shot in the car.

Fifty shot is now the Wilt Chamberlain one hundred point game is crazy, you know.

Fifty shot is now the Wilt Chamberlain one hundred point game is crazy, you know.

What I mean?

What I mean?

That is to say we ain't got footage with the dj't getting shot Trump stronger. It sucks that that's and I'm not judging you, it's just what I'm.

That is to say we ain't got footage with the dj't getting shot Trump stronger. It sucks that that's and I'm not judging you, it's just what I'm.

Saying is that's the game Trump is playing.

Saying is that's the game Trump is playing.

That's the why.

That's the why.

The cameras there, That's why he had it's fished up. Trump's some point pounds for pound.

The cameras there, That's why he had it's fished up. Trump's some point pounds for pound.

And that would be such a funny moment when Trump goes, I don't even believe he got shot. This footage of me getting shot fifty cent, where's your footage? Where's your tape?

And that would be such a funny moment when Trump goes, I don't even believe he got shot. This footage of me getting shot fifty cent, where's your footage? Where's your tape?

That's I think the angle. I think he also the way that he called little Pump's little pimp, I think he would diminish that in that way, who's this man dying? Who's this man dying? Like I think because Trump does that ship where it doesn't even have to be funny, it just has to be like bold.

That's I think the angle. I think he also the way that he called little Pump's little pimp, I think he would diminish that in that way, who's this man dying? Who's this man dying? Like I think because Trump does that ship where it doesn't even have to be funny, it just has to be like bold.

Yeah, he's gonna call him fifty pass and.

Yeah, he's gonna call him fifty pass and.

You're gonna yeah, yeah, yeah, the.

You're gonna yeah, yeah, yeah, the.

Internet is gonna eat that up. It is okay.

Internet is gonna eat that up. It is okay.

But I think if it came down to him fifty versus Trump, this is the most This is better than Nads versus jay Z. To me, we're talking about hypothetical who could win? Oh Man, fifty versus Trump. I think I gotta give it to fifty. But I think that's because fifty is willing to play the long game in a way that I don't think Trump will be. Fifty will be how long has he been talking about dinny parties? And he'll play with you, but fifty will fifty will go for a long time. Trump's seventy something right, like, I think he just doesn't. I don't think he could maintain it for that long, but I think it would be a battle.

But I think if it came down to him fifty versus Trump, this is the most This is better than Nads versus jay Z. To me, we're talking about hypothetical who could win? Oh Man, fifty versus Trump. I think I gotta give it to fifty. But I think that's because fifty is willing to play the long game in a way that I don't think Trump will be. Fifty will be how long has he been talking about dinny parties? And he'll play with you, but fifty will fifty will go for a long time. Trump's seventy something right, like, I think he just doesn't. I don't think he could maintain it for that long, but I think it would be a battle.

Yeah, Fifty's gonna hit him at weird hours in the night that Trump can't uh can't handle.

Yeah, Fifty's gonna hit him at weird hours in the night that Trump can't uh can't handle.

And fifty is gonna go angles that maybe maybe Trump's just not looking for because fifty fifty fifty go get your man. Fifty fifty is gonna be Fifty's gonna pull up to a bellatur fight with Don Junior, Like.

And fifty is gonna go angles that maybe maybe Trump's just not looking for because fifty fifty fifty go get your man. Fifty fifty is gonna be Fifty's gonna pull up to a bellatur fight with Don Junior, Like.

Yeah, he's gonna go kid for kids. He's gonna try to fuck Tiffany.

Yeah, he's gonna go kid for kids. He's gonna try to fuck Tiffany.

Yeah, it's gonna go.

Yeah, it's gonna go.

It's gonna be nuts.

It's gonna be nuts.

He's gonna have Malani on tape, like it's gonna be crazy.

He's gonna have Malani on tape, like it's gonna be crazy.

Trump just saying, got the the stomach for trying to fuck one of fifty cents you know wives or your girlfriends or some shit, you know what I mean. Like, yeah, he just sain't got it the way fifty would.

Trump just saying, got the the stomach for trying to fuck one of fifty cents you know wives or your girlfriends or some shit, you know what I mean. Like, yeah, he just sain't got it the way fifty would.

But I think it would be I think that would be a battle man. That would be exciting.

But I think it would be I think that would be a battle man. That would be exciting.

I can't think of a better face off in terms of powerhouses and and and just like people at their disposal.

I can't think of a better face off in terms of powerhouses and and and just like people at their disposal.

I want because I've been thinking about like rap beats and stuff like that, then like I would like a rap style beef that doesn't affect black people like that doesn't that mobilizes completely different parts of the culture. Does that make sense? Like I would want to see I want to see like a Taylor Swift Garth Brooks beef, but for real and mobilize that and let's all sit back and watch and we could say snarky shit like I don't think it's great because Garth Brooks didn't say he was gonna kill Taylor Swift. Whatever dumb white people commentary there is.

I want because I've been thinking about like rap beats and stuff like that, then like I would like a rap style beef that doesn't affect black people like that doesn't that mobilizes completely different parts of the culture. Does that make sense? Like I would want to see I want to see like a Taylor Swift Garth Brooks beef, but for real and mobilize that and let's all sit back and watch and we could say snarky shit like I don't think it's great because Garth Brooks didn't say he was gonna kill Taylor Swift. Whatever dumb white people commentary there is.

On the Yeah, they never they that, And you know, you're really speaking to something that I think we've never talked about before on this podcast is white people never take it to their art.

On the Yeah, they never they that, And you know, you're really speaking to something that I think we've never talked about before on this podcast is white people never take it to their art.

No, because they don't want to lose their shit. Our shit is disposable.

No, because they don't want to lose their shit. Our shit is disposable.

But it almost makes me feel and I don't think they're making art then, do you know what I mean? Like part of what the artistic experience is is to be present in the world around you. And it's not that they're not making art. I'm being reductive, but like there's a part of me that feels like, well, then y'all ain't doing what you claim art is supposed to be in all these textbooks and all these sort of like technical interpretations of art, you aren't taking the beef or your actual feelings in a real place. You're just like, oh, I'm arguing with Selena Gomez, but then I sing songs about being sixteen and dating a prince or whatever the fuck it is.

But it almost makes me feel and I don't think they're making art then, do you know what I mean? Like part of what the artistic experience is is to be present in the world around you. And it's not that they're not making art. I'm being reductive, but like there's a part of me that feels like, well, then y'all ain't doing what you claim art is supposed to be in all these textbooks and all these sort of like technical interpretations of art, you aren't taking the beef or your actual feelings in a real place. You're just like, oh, I'm arguing with Selena Gomez, but then I sing songs about being sixteen and dating a prince or whatever the fuck it is.

I think it's just it's a thin line though, because it's like, it's not like Beef Records are the only art either, you know what I'm saying. I think they're making a spectacle of it. I do think that, like, because it seems to be like I don't listen to that shit, but it seems to be like Taylor has her lemonade right, Like it seems to be still like reflecting on life and putting that out despite.

I think it's just it's a thin line though, because it's like, it's not like Beef Records are the only art either, you know what I'm saying. I think they're making a spectacle of it. I do think that, like, because it seems to be like I don't listen to that shit, but it seems to be like Taylor has her lemonade right, Like it seems to be still like reflecting on life and putting that out despite.

Yeah, it's very coded, sort of like people who are big swifties claim that there are like all these messages regarding her present life that are sort of deeply embedded in the music, which is why hence her popularity. But I think my point is less and I think Taylor Swift maybe is a great example of it, where she actively is writing about the things that she's experiencing. But I think for the vast majority of white artists that's not really what's happening. It seems to me like what they're doing is just making this sort of like canned version of the thing, but not necessarily giving us the sort of active reflection. And maybe that again I'm being so reductive. There are so many great examples of white artists that that are doing it.

Yeah, it's very coded, sort of like people who are big swifties claim that there are like all these messages regarding her present life that are sort of deeply embedded in the music, which is why hence her popularity. But I think my point is less and I think Taylor Swift maybe is a great example of it, where she actively is writing about the things that she's experiencing. But I think for the vast majority of white artists that's not really what's happening. It seems to me like what they're doing is just making this sort of like canned version of the thing, but not necessarily giving us the sort of active reflection. And maybe that again I'm being so reductive. There are so many great examples of white artists that that are doing it.

But I think that's the pop general. I think you could make the same case for rap music, you know what I mean.

But I think that's the pop general. I think you could make the same case for rap music, you know what I mean.

Noos was talking about what the Migos was doing the whole time, cooking that other ship going on, you know what I mean.

Noos was talking about what the Migos was doing the whole time, cooking that other ship going on, you know what I mean.

I don't know. It's an interesting thing, though, I wonder that's interesting, the idea that they're not making art. I'm being so I don't. I don't think I know enough about it to talk, you know what I mean. I man, people have gotten on me about this even ship. Like I think that we came up in such a heavy rap and R and B era that at the time I should have been learning about other music's I really wasn't. I mean, I'm talking to you about this about music and how I feel about it in the way that like I listen, Beetles feel no same. Yeah, I just don't. It just doesn't.

I don't know. It's an interesting thing, though, I wonder that's interesting, the idea that they're not making art. I'm being so I don't. I don't think I know enough about it to talk, you know what I mean. I man, people have gotten on me about this even ship. Like I think that we came up in such a heavy rap and R and B era that at the time I should have been learning about other music's I really wasn't. I mean, I'm talking to you about this about music and how I feel about it in the way that like I listen, Beetles feel no same. Yeah, I just don't. It just doesn't.

They had a couple of songs, so I'm like, yeah.

They had a couple of songs, so I'm like, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, I mean, I like the songs that sound like black people will sing them. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, I mean, I like the songs that sound like black people will sing them. Yeah.

I like Yesterday because boys men did it better.

I like Yesterday because boys men did it better.

I like Coming Together because Michael Jackson sanger at the end of Moonwalker. Yeah, I don't know, that's interesting. I would like to. I wonder. I wonder because if we're looking at like generic, do you think generic black music is still more connected than generic white music? I truly can't tell.

I like Coming Together because Michael Jackson sanger at the end of Moonwalker. Yeah, I don't know, that's interesting. I would like to. I wonder. I wonder because if we're looking at like generic, do you think generic black music is still more connected than generic white music? I truly can't tell.

When you say connected, what do you mean to.

When you say connected, what do you mean to.

Too audience experiences opposed to being like Because I mean, it seems like white pop music has the same type of ghostwriters in general, waves that get written and all it does seem to be pretty pretty pretty similar. You know, I don't believe people believe in these rappers for nothing.

Too audience experiences opposed to being like Because I mean, it seems like white pop music has the same type of ghostwriters in general, waves that get written and all it does seem to be pretty pretty pretty similar. You know, I don't believe people believe in these rappers for nothing.

No, Yeah, I think I think it were less likely than ever to have like these massive distinctions between white and black music. I think more likely than ever less likely. I think we're where the genres have bled into each other so much that there isn't even really a distinction in regional music anymore, do you know what I mean? Like, not in a way that there was before. Yeah, when when that Chicago era hit, you knew what a Chicago rappers sounded like Atlanta rappers used to sound like Atlanta rappers. New York for the longest was the only thing that we associated with hip hop, and it wasn't you know what I mean, like that Wu tang era where it was just like if you didn't sound like a New Yorker, you weren't even really rapping like that, you know what I mean? Yeah?

No, Yeah, I think I think it were less likely than ever to have like these massive distinctions between white and black music. I think more likely than ever less likely. I think we're where the genres have bled into each other so much that there isn't even really a distinction in regional music anymore, do you know what I mean? Like, not in a way that there was before. Yeah, when when that Chicago era hit, you knew what a Chicago rappers sounded like Atlanta rappers used to sound like Atlanta rappers. New York for the longest was the only thing that we associated with hip hop, and it wasn't you know what I mean, like that Wu tang era where it was just like if you didn't sound like a New Yorker, you weren't even really rapping like that, you know what I mean? Yeah?

Yeah, the West Coast was not getting of No.

Yeah, the West Coast was not getting of No.

Yeah, I think nah, I I one hundred percent agree that the blending has happened. I think I'm more speaking just to the the emotional presence in the art form less than an actual assessment of quality of art or Okay.

Yeah, I think nah, I I one hundred percent agree that the blending has happened. I think I'm more speaking just to the the emotional presence in the art form less than an actual assessment of quality of art or Okay.

I got you, because the emotional presence that is one good thing about I feel like black art in general is that it usually it's present more often than not. Right, it feels it feels that way even if he's lying. Man, some of these rappers are rapping though, Yeah, even lies, you feel that shit, And I don't. I don't necessarily know that I feel that way when I listen to other types of music. But maybe that might be like, cause I think about it, even with rapping shit like that, it's like so culturally coded, like you have to know so much to know so much, you know what I'm saying. And I wonder if maybe there's a level of that to rock and roll music or some shit that I'm just not getting. I don't think so, by the way, I don't. I don't think so, But maybe I think so.

I got you, because the emotional presence that is one good thing about I feel like black art in general is that it usually it's present more often than not. Right, it feels it feels that way even if he's lying. Man, some of these rappers are rapping though, Yeah, even lies, you feel that shit, And I don't. I don't necessarily know that I feel that way when I listen to other types of music. But maybe that might be like, cause I think about it, even with rapping shit like that, it's like so culturally coded, like you have to know so much to know so much, you know what I'm saying. And I wonder if maybe there's a level of that to rock and roll music or some shit that I'm just not getting. I don't think so, by the way, I don't. I don't think so, But maybe I think so.

I just don't think it's as interesting as our shit is.

I just don't think it's as interesting as our shit is.

That's fair, you know what I mean.

That's fair, you know what I mean.

Like, I actually think there's a lot of stuff that I'm never going to be able to understand inside of, like fucking rolling Stone songs that that obviously gives people feeling and meaning that, you know what I mean, Like, I just would have to be unpacking to unpack. See, But that's the shit I identify more to their old shit.

Like, I actually think there's a lot of stuff that I'm never going to be able to understand inside of, like fucking rolling Stone songs that that obviously gives people feeling and meaning that, you know what I mean, Like, I just would have to be unpacking to unpack. See, But that's the shit I identify more to their old shit.

I like their old shit. Like white music in general, I like their older shit. You know what I like is old sad ass cowboys songs. I like that shit. I think there's like a ton of emotion in it, you know what I mean, because it all feels like it comes from like a similar place, like of just like working class struggle type music. And I like that shit, So I get I could actually get down with that shit, you know, Like I like because like the way that the way that rap music cosplays is like gangsters or whatever, they cosplay as cowboys. That's their shit. They like a white boys love being cowboys.

I like their old shit. Like white music in general, I like their older shit. You know what I like is old sad ass cowboys songs. I like that shit. I think there's like a ton of emotion in it, you know what I mean, because it all feels like it comes from like a similar place, like of just like working class struggle type music. And I like that shit, So I get I could actually get down with that shit, you know, Like I like because like the way that the way that rap music cosplays is like gangsters or whatever, they cosplay as cowboys. That's their shit. They like a white boys love being cowboys.

Love that shit, you know, I can't get enough of it.

Love that shit, you know, I can't get enough of it.

Like I think about that song Seven Spanish Angels with Ray Charles and Willie Nelson, and it's just they're just pretending to be cowboys.

Like I think about that song Seven Spanish Angels with Ray Charles and Willie Nelson, and it's just they're just pretending to be cowboys.

You ever heard that song Ain't No Way Ray rode a Horse?

You ever heard that song Ain't No Way Ray rode a Horse?

Come Ray our country albums. Ray love country music, but like that shit kind of to me is more interesting. And because of that shit Mike Judge did with Tales from the Tour Bus, where you watch these country music artists from like the seventies sixties and you realize you're, like, oh, they were thugging though they're shooting people and doing all kinds of Shit's a lot.

Come Ray our country albums. Ray love country music, but like that shit kind of to me is more interesting. And because of that shit Mike Judge did with Tales from the Tour Bus, where you watch these country music artists from like the seventies sixties and you realize you're, like, oh, they were thugging though they're shooting people and doing all kinds of Shit's a lot.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think I venture far more into white music than you do, and which is odd.

I think I venture far more into white music than you do, and which is odd.

I don't mean to not, but I think you do too, Yeah, modern white music, because you don't I don't think you don't see do you listen to a lot of older white music too?

I don't mean to not, but I think you do too, Yeah, modern white music, because you don't I don't think you don't see do you listen to a lot of older white music too?

It depends what we call older. I think there are certain eras, for sure. I love hauling oats, you know what I mean, Yeah, that doesn't even count. Like so, and that's not like the Beg's I fuck with them super hard, like you know what I mean. Like, there's there's some groups that I'm like truly tapped into their whole discography.

It depends what we call older. I think there are certain eras, for sure. I love hauling oats, you know what I mean, Yeah, that doesn't even count. Like so, and that's not like the Beg's I fuck with them super hard, like you know what I mean. Like, there's there's some groups that I'm like truly tapped into their whole discography.

Oh you know, I like is when Old Boy came out drinking the Apple juice. I I did the deep dive on Fleetwood Mac that like that.

Oh you know, I like is when Old Boy came out drinking the Apple juice. I I did the deep dive on Fleetwood Mac that like that.

Shit Leewood Mac is is dope. That's just a bunch of motherfuckers that hated each other. And that's what I'm saying. They were really making art because they were they hated each other's guts. They were having these weird like fairs and sort of like relationships splits and shit, and they wrote about that and it was present in the music and the people that track. And that's the kind of stuff where like, if it weren't for white people explaining to me that there's like more underneath these lyrics, I wouldn't understand it.

Shit Leewood Mac is is dope. That's just a bunch of motherfuckers that hated each other. And that's what I'm saying. They were really making art because they were they hated each other's guts. They were having these weird like fairs and sort of like relationships splits and shit, and they wrote about that and it was present in the music and the people that track. And that's the kind of stuff where like, if it weren't for white people explaining to me that there's like more underneath these lyrics, I wouldn't understand it.

That's fair.

That's fair.

That's would just be like, oh, it sounds like a weird sort of like breakup song and they're like no, no, no, you don't understand what she's saying. This she's talking about this dude and he's sitting there playing the drums while it's happening, like.

That's would just be like, oh, it sounds like a weird sort of like breakup song and they're like no, no, no, you don't understand what she's saying. This she's talking about this dude and he's sitting there playing the drums while it's happening, like.

And it's like it's the same shit we do where you're like, no, actually something about Jerry Hower and how you know what I mean.

And it's like it's the same shit we do where you're like, no, actually something about Jerry Hower and how you know what I mean.

That's what I mean is that it's just not the same as.

That's what I mean is that it's just not the same as.

No, Homo fifty's man like whatever when you get on your merd ship, I show many men with my girl and you just really you're just like, oh, this is not cool.

No, Homo fifty's man like whatever when you get on your merd ship, I show many men with my girl and you just really you're just like, oh, this is not cool.

No.

No.

The amount of.

The amount of.

The amount of school library hours I spent trying to figure out who Un was from Jason.

The amount of school library hours I spent trying to figure out who Un was from Jason.

So oh oh man, God, damn Un Rivera. That's some shit. That is some time I will never get back.

So oh oh man, God, damn Un Rivera. That's some shit. That is some time I will never get back.

Bro. I was learning everything I could to understand Volume two.

Bro. I was learning everything I could to understand Volume two.

Because I was back when you had to you had to figure it out, Like it wasn't like I feel like, I don't think New Yorkers understand how much access they had to that information. Yeah, we had to. If we were not If you were not in New York at that time, you're on weird websites, angel fire websites.

Because I was back when you had to you had to figure it out, Like it wasn't like I feel like, I don't think New Yorkers understand how much access they had to that information. Yeah, we had to. If we were not If you were not in New York at that time, you're on weird websites, angel fire websites.

Bro, you really had to study to feel like you were connected to this music and y'all were learning about it on the train. Yeah, you're just gossiping and.

Bro, you really had to study to feel like you were connected to this music and y'all were learning about it on the train. Yeah, you're just gossiping and.

You knew a guy who knew a guy.

You knew a guy who knew a guy.

Yeah, it's very different connection to the whole experience.

Yeah, it's very different connection to the whole experience.

Yeah yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's that's interesting. I never I never thought about that. I guess all music is probably that, and it's just whatever you're paying attention to, because it's the same with people who don't listen to rap, like this shit all sounds the same, which I used to think it was crazy, and then I got older to where I don't listen to as much new rap, and when I tap in sometimes I'd be like, that's awesome. Yeah, no, I I and exactly, that's what a genre is.

Yeah yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's that's interesting. I never I never thought about that. I guess all music is probably that, and it's just whatever you're paying attention to, because it's the same with people who don't listen to rap, like this shit all sounds the same, which I used to think it was crazy, and then I got older to where I don't listen to as much new rap, and when I tap in sometimes I'd be like, that's awesome. Yeah, no, I I and exactly, that's what a genre is.

Yeah, you have to kind of make it, you have to give it an energy. It's it's Afrobeats sounds the same to me for all their music. But I bet if I'm really diving into it, then it's unique and sort of specific, and each person has their own sound and ship.

Yeah, you have to kind of make it, you have to give it an energy. It's it's Afrobeats sounds the same to me for all their music. But I bet if I'm really diving into it, then it's unique and sort of specific, and each person has their own sound and ship.

And I don't have to dive into it. That's the fun part. You used to get mad about people, but it's like, no, that's what I don't pay attention to. I don't know, I don't know what the what the equivalent is? But that's all hippiie hop over that, that's all scoop whatever.

And I don't have to dive into it. That's the fun part. You used to get mad about people, but it's like, no, that's what I don't pay attention to. I don't know, I don't know what the what the equivalent is? But that's all hippiie hop over that, that's all scoop whatever.

I don't even fuck whatever do There's a bunch of music out there. You don't have to pay attention to my ship.

I don't even fuck whatever do There's a bunch of music out there. You don't have to pay attention to my ship.

We should take a break. We haven't done anything for this episode. We've been talking for a long time, mostly about nothing. But but we're gonna take a quick break and we're gonna come.

We should take a break. We haven't done anything for this episode. We've been talking for a long time, mostly about nothing. But but we're gonna take a quick break and we're gonna come.

Back with more. David more Likeston more My mama told me, now, who think you?

Back with more. David more Likeston more My mama told me, now, who think you?

Who sent me the record company? I'm trying to take some sets. This is interesting.

Who sent me the record company? I'm trying to take some sets. This is interesting.

Let's wrap up. I feel like we can wrap it up on this. Here's one thing about music that I always feel weird is like to enjoy music so much to not know anything about actual music. Oh that it kind of bothers me because I told you I went I told you about it. I went to the I went to the Symphony on Mushrooms. Yes, it's like a transformative experience.

Let's wrap up. I feel like we can wrap it up on this. Here's one thing about music that I always feel weird is like to enjoy music so much to not know anything about actual music. Oh that it kind of bothers me because I told you I went I told you about it. I went to the I went to the Symphony on Mushrooms. Yes, it's like a transformative experience.

Changed the idea of what I even thought music is or was or could be, and the type of emotion that it could convey outside of lyrics, right, like truly like a wow. I didn't even understand but I still listen to Gunplay when I walk the dog.

Changed the idea of what I even thought music is or was or could be, and the type of emotion that it could convey outside of lyrics, right, like truly like a wow. I didn't even understand but I still listen to Gunplay when I walk the dog.

Here's here's what I'll say, and I am now I'm regretting my earlier comments about them not having them not making art. I do think that art is and again I didn't mean it sincerely, I was being nanny nanny booboo type boy.

Here's here's what I'll say, and I am now I'm regretting my earlier comments about them not having them not making art. I do think that art is and again I didn't mean it sincerely, I was being nanny nanny booboo type boy.

But also I do want to say we talked shit on here. Sometimes we think Sean Paul is Chinese, Sometimes we don't. You just gotta deal with that.

But also I do want to say we talked shit on here. Sometimes we think Sean Paul is Chinese, Sometimes we don't. You just gotta deal with that.

I will say though, that I do think it speaks to the ability to convey emotion without words and how powerful that can be. Right that, Like, there there is like the ability to make a breakup song and not say hey we're breaking up out loud. Is fucking crazy. To make someone feel that emotional journey of like damn, I was in love and now that heart is broken. That's fucking crazy. To be able to put on a violin and not also have lyrics with it.