In Part 1, he named the addiction. In Part 2, he asks the deeper question: What’s the way out? 

Clinical psychologist, body-based trauma expert, and author of Addicted to Drama, Dr. Scott Lyons returns with hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger to explore how we break free from a culture fueled by urgency, outrage, overstimulation, and loneliness. 

Joined again by his lifelong friend Nicole Asselin, Scott unpacks the difference between trauma bonding and drama bonding, the physiological cost of our attentional economy, and why shared stress can either heal us or hook us. 

Together, they explore: 
The critical difference between trauma bonding and drama bonding 
How social media and the “attention economy” fuel stress addiction 
Why loneliness is more dangerous than we realize 
The body-based practices that help regulate overstimulation 
How service and shared purpose can interrupt the chaos cycle 

Missed Part 1? You can listen here. New episodes drop every Tuesday. Subscribe for conversations that challenge, heal, and inspire. 

In Part 1, he named the addiction. In Part 2, he asks the deeper question:&nbsp;What&rsquo;s&nbsp;the way out?&nbsp;
Clinical psychologist, body-based trauma expert, and author of Addicted to Drama,&nbsp;Dr.&nbsp;Scott&nbsp;Lyons&nbsp;returns with hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger&nbsp;to explore how we break free from a culture fueled by urgency, outrage, overstimulation, and loneliness.&nbsp;
Joined again by his lifelong friend Nicole Asselin, Scott unpacks the difference between trauma bonding and drama bonding, the physiological cost of our attentional economy, and why shared stress can either heal us or hook us.&nbsp;
Together, they explore:&nbsp;
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Missed Part 1? You can listen here. New episodes drop every Tuesday.&nbsp;Subscribe for conversations that challenge, heal, and inspire.&nbsp;

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Hosted by Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger, each episode uncovers the untold stories behind groundbreaking achievements and profound personal struggles — brought to life by those who lived them, and those who walked the journey alongside them. 

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Step inside the lives of extraordinary individuals with My Legacy &ndash; the conversation redefining what it means to create a living legacy.&nbsp;&nbsp;
Hosted by Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger, each episode uncovers the untold stories behind groundbreaking achievements and profound personal struggles &mdash; brought to life by those who lived them, and those who walked the journey alongside them.&nbsp;
This isn&rsquo;t just another celebrity interview. Each guest brings their &ldquo;plus one&rdquo; &ndash; a friend, family member, mentor, or trusted confidant who helped shape their path. Together, they offer an intimate window into the trials, triumphs, and truths that define a legacy.&nbsp;
Join us every Tuesday for unforgettable conversations with remarkable guests like Gloria Steinem, Deepak Chopra, Mel Robbins, Billy Porter, Sarah Jakes Roberts, David Oyelowo, Sophia Bush, Jay Shetty, Martin Sheen, and many more. Then tune in Thursdays for bonus drops &ndash; powerful follow-ups, behind-the-scenes moments, and deeper reflections that take the conversation even further.&nbsp;
Extraordinary lives. Inspiring lessons. This is My Legacy.&nbsp;

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Dr. Scott Lyons Plus One (Part 2): The Way Out of Chaos 

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