Before Dr. Scott Lyons became an expert on drama addiction, he was living it – weaponizing empathy, chasing crisis to feel alive, and mistaking stress for connection. 

Now a clinical psychologist, body-based trauma expert, and author of Addicted to Drama, Scott joins hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger for a fearless and deeply personal conversation about chaos, trauma, and the hidden ways we keep ourselves stuck. 

Joined by his best friend of over 20 years, Nicole Asselin, Scott reflects on the childhood trauma, shame, thrill-seeking, and relational patterns that shaped his life – and how he ultimately broke free. 

Together they explore: 
The science behind addiction to stress (and how endorphins keep us hooked) 
Trauma bonding vs. drama bonding 
Why chaos can feel safer than peace 
How to build connection without crisis 
Turning thrill-seeking into growth instead of self-sabotage 

Note: This episode includes discussion of suicide and mental health. Viewer discretion advised. 

Don’t miss Part 2, airing Tuesday, March 17. Subscribe for conversations that challenge, heal, and inspire. 

Before&nbsp;Dr. Scott Lyons&nbsp;became an expert on drama addiction,&nbsp;he&nbsp;was living it&nbsp;&ndash; weaponizing&nbsp;empathy, chasing crisis to feel alive, and mistaking stress for connection.&nbsp;
Now a clinical psychologist, body-based trauma expert, and author of Addicted to Drama, Scott joins hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger for a fearless and deeply personal conversation about chaos, trauma, and the hidden ways we keep ourselves stuck.&nbsp;
Joined by his best friend of over 20 years, Nicole Asselin, Scott reflects on the childhood trauma, shame, thrill-seeking, and relational patterns that shaped his life &ndash; and how he&nbsp;ultimately broke&nbsp;free.&nbsp;
Together they explore:&nbsp;
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Note: This episode includes&nbsp;discussion&nbsp;of&nbsp;suicide and mental health. Viewer discretion advised.&nbsp;
Don&rsquo;t&nbsp;miss Part 2, airing Tuesday,&nbsp;March 17. Subscribe for conversations that challenge, heal, and inspire.&nbsp;

Step inside the lives of extraordinary individuals with My Legacy – the conversation redefining what it means to create a living legacy.  

Hosted by Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger, each episode uncovers the untold stories behind groundbreaking achievements and profound personal struggles — brought to life by those who lived them, and those who walked the journey alongside them. 

This isn’t just another celebrity interview. Each guest brings their “plus one” – a friend, family member, mentor, or trusted confidant who helped shape their path. Together, they offer an intimate window into the trials, triumphs, and truths that define a legacy. 

Join us every Tuesday for unforgettable conversations with remarkable guests like Gloria Steinem, Deepak Chopra, Mel Robbins, Billy Porter, Sarah Jakes Roberts, David Oyelowo, Sophia Bush, Jay Shetty, Martin Sheen, and many more. Then tune in Thursdays for bonus drops – powerful follow-ups, behind-the-scenes moments, and deeper reflections that take the conversation even further. 

Extraordinary lives. Inspiring lessons. This is My Legacy. 

Step inside the lives of extraordinary individuals with My Legacy &ndash; the conversation redefining what it means to create a living legacy.&nbsp;&nbsp;
Hosted by Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger, each episode uncovers the untold stories behind groundbreaking achievements and profound personal struggles &mdash; brought to life by those who lived them, and those who walked the journey alongside them.&nbsp;
This isn&rsquo;t just another celebrity interview. Each guest brings their &ldquo;plus one&rdquo; &ndash; a friend, family member, mentor, or trusted confidant who helped shape their path. Together, they offer an intimate window into the trials, triumphs, and truths that define a legacy.&nbsp;
Join us every Tuesday for unforgettable conversations with remarkable guests like Gloria Steinem, Deepak Chopra, Mel Robbins, Billy Porter, Sarah Jakes Roberts, David Oyelowo, Sophia Bush, Jay Shetty, Martin Sheen, and many more. Then tune in Thursdays for bonus drops &ndash; powerful follow-ups, behind-the-scenes moments, and deeper reflections that take the conversation even further.&nbsp;
Extraordinary lives. Inspiring lessons. This is My Legacy.&nbsp;

My Legacy Podcast

Dr. Scott Lyons Plus One (Part 1): Why You’re Addicted to Chaos 

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