Last Hello, welcome to rewind with Karen and Georgia.

Last Hello, welcome to rewind with Karen and Georgia.

That's right. That means it's Wednesday, and that means we're recapping one of our old shows with all new commentary, updates and insights.

That's right. That means it's Wednesday, and that means we're recapping one of our old shows with all new commentary, updates and insights.

And today we're recapping episode thirty two, which we named just the thirty two of Us. I thought we were done with the number puns.

And today we're recapping episode thirty two, which we named just the thirty two of Us. I thought we were done with the number puns.

I mean, I can hear myself and this may not have happened, but I can absolutely hear myself in my memory going yeah, but it's so funny. We have to go back just for this one.

I mean, I can hear myself and this may not have happened, but I can absolutely hear myself in my memory going yeah, but it's so funny. We have to go back just for this one.

Yeah, like you know, you can't. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Yeah, like you know, you can't. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

There's a good one. If there's just the thirty two of us gouts pretty funny.

There's a good one. If there's just the thirty two of us gouts pretty funny.

It's so good.

It's so good.

So join us today as we take you back to September one, twenty sixteen, when Sausage Party who was still in theaters.

So join us today as we take you back to September one, twenty sixteen, when Sausage Party who was still in theaters.

Classic. It's a classic, and now we can all be Day one listeners.

Classic. It's a classic, and now we can all be Day one listeners.

Okay, here's the intro of episode thirty two. Hello, Welcome to My Murder. My name's Karen, and I sure love murder. How about you Girl over there?

Okay, here's the intro of episode thirty two. Hello, Welcome to My Murder. My name's Karen, and I sure love murder. How about you Girl over there?

This week? Girl over There is played by Georgia Heartstar, George's Heart Stark and g I love Murder too.

This week? Girl over There is played by Georgia Heartstar, George's Heart Stark and g I love Murder too.

And of course engineer Stephen is here standing by with his mustache and his.

And of course engineer Stephen is here standing by with his mustache and his.

His uh stuff, his equipment, his general style, general style. You're more reporting of the per cast.

His uh stuff, his equipment, his general style, general style. You're more reporting of the per cast.

Oh thank you?

Oh thank you?

Yeah, welcome who tonight this so so trapped in? Yeah, Vince, So we have our murder reinos. That what we call people who listen to this podcast. I don't.

Yeah, welcome who tonight this so so trapped in? Yeah, Vince, So we have our murder reinos. That what we call people who listen to this podcast. I don't.

We didn't make that.

We didn't make that.

No, we didn't put that's what people call it. And Vince said that, So Stephen has the perk cast about Kat since been said that the people who listen should be called pervert three rs.

No, we didn't put that's what people call it. And Vince said that, So Stephen has the perk cast about Kat since been said that the people who listen should be called pervert three rs.

You got to do that.

You got to do that.

I'm going to start doing it.

I'm going to start doing it.

And I said you can have it.

And I said you can have it.

He said, tell me, you know that's a free one. Cool, Hi, everybody, it's episode thirty two. Was up. I'm going to bring up back I have already threatened to do that was up.

He said, tell me, you know that's a free one. Cool, Hi, everybody, it's episode thirty two. Was up. I'm going to bring up back I have already threatened to do that was up.

And that sound she got murdered.

And that sound she got murdered.

She was so hacky. The town killed her, the city kills her.

She was so hacky. The town killed her, the city kills her.

She she got killed.

She she got killed.

Do you have a housekeeping I mean I have.

Do you have a housekeeping I mean I have.

Things I just generally want to talk about.

Things I just generally want to talk about.

Well, I'll say mine that our internet specifics that are important Forrester, just battling quiet because it's mine.

Well, I'll say mine that our internet specifics that are important Forrester, just battling quiet because it's mine.

How much I hate TV?

How much I hate TV?

Oh did you watch the last night?

Oh did you watch the last night?

I fucking I just I don't. There's a block and I mean to and I haven't. No fans.

I fucking I just I don't. There's a block and I mean to and I haven't. No fans.

No, Well, then you don't want his DNA inside you and you'll never get to have it. He was also on Colbert. We actually watched it at work because enough people at my work like him that we were all like.

No, Well, then you don't want his DNA inside you and you'll never get to have it. He was also on Colbert. We actually watched it at work because enough people at my work like him that we were all like.

Let's watch Is he cute? And well, he is perfection.

Let's watch Is he cute? And well, he is perfection.

It's there's something like disney Esque about the scale of the size of his eyes to the rest of his face. His nose looks like he got a nose job, it's so perfectly shaped. And then in general he just has the he has the charisma, but he's very low key, like he's smart enough to know not to overplay it.

It's there's something like disney Esque about the scale of the size of his eyes to the rest of his face. His nose looks like he got a nose job, it's so perfectly shaped. And then in general he just has the he has the charisma, but he's very low key, like he's smart enough to know not to overplay it.

We're talking about rism Ed.

We're talking about rism Ed.

We're talking about Britain zone.

We're talking about Britain zone.

And he's got the British accent man like the like the like street British accent.

And he's got the British accent man like the like the like street British accent.

Yeah, stop it, but he can do any British.

Yeah, stop it, but he can do any British.

Well, I guess I only heard. I only heard him speaking in a British accent when he was rapping, so I was like, yeah.

Well, I guess I only heard. I only heard him speaking in a British accent when he was rapping, so I was like, yeah.

He was trying to he's turning it a little bit on but okay. But also I saw him in the The Unwilling Fundamentalist. What's that movie? He stars in a movie about an a fundamentalist that doesn't want to be who doesn't The word is an unwilling No, sorry, it's part of the title. I'm his number one fan. But in that when he had like a posh.

He was trying to he's turning it a little bit on but okay. But also I saw him in the The Unwilling Fundamentalist. What's that movie? He stars in a movie about an a fundamentalist that doesn't want to be who doesn't The word is an unwilling No, sorry, it's part of the title. I'm his number one fan. But in that when he had like a posh.

British accent in and I want it to be dirty, please.

British accent in and I want it to be dirty, please.

Jesus keep it dirty. Hi, Vince, it's this Karen. She said more gross stuff about Rizam at this time. The thing I wanted to mention was a woman named Liam Moffatt made us this amazing animated opening to our podcast theme song. You can see it on the Twitter page. You can see it on the Facebook page.

Jesus keep it dirty. Hi, Vince, it's this Karen. She said more gross stuff about Rizam at this time. The thing I wanted to mention was a woman named Liam Moffatt made us this amazing animated opening to our podcast theme song. You can see it on the Twitter page. You can see it on the Facebook page.

I'll put it on the I'll put it on the We have a new Facebook fan page because some people told us that that's how you're supposed to do things.

I'll put it on the I'll put it on the We have a new Facebook fan page because some people told us that that's how you're supposed to do things.

Don't be closed off all the time. Maybe open some stuff up.

Don't be closed off all the time. Maybe open some stuff up.

Yeah, so we have a new Facebook fan page. I will post it on there. It is. It's your like, how do you how did you feel watching it with your music and your voice.

Yeah, so we have a new Facebook fan page. I will post it on there. It is. It's your like, how do you how did you feel watching it with your music and your voice.

I couldn't breathe. Yeah, and but also it's that weird thing of like it's very strange when someone holds up something you did and goes, now, here's something I did to match it. Like, it's just magical. I love it. Gorgeous and it's the cutest. Like the style of it is so like there's a little skeleton in every scene, and it's.

I couldn't breathe. Yeah, and but also it's that weird thing of like it's very strange when someone holds up something you did and goes, now, here's something I did to match it. Like, it's just magical. I love it. Gorgeous and it's the cutest. Like the style of it is so like there's a little skeleton in every scene, and it's.

So moves the way everything flows, its moods.

So moves the way everything flows, its moods.

But it's creepy, very creepy. It's all perfectly done. Celianne Moffett, thank you so much for Thank you doing that and thinking of us and participating in that very creative and cool way.

But it's creepy, very creepy. It's all perfectly done. Celianne Moffett, thank you so much for Thank you doing that and thinking of us and participating in that very creative and cool way.

Thanks to everyone who creates, Like there's so many cute drawings of us, even though we berated them.

Thanks to everyone who creates, Like there's so many cute drawings of us, even though we berated them.

Last week, they like it. I know.

Last week, they like it. I know.

I keep posting them on Insta. We have an instagram my favorite Murder, and I just them constantly. I like, can't stop posting all day, and I feel like I'm getting annoying because there's just so much cool shit to post.

I keep posting them on Insta. We have an instagram my favorite Murder, and I just them constantly. I like, can't stop posting all day, and I feel like I'm getting annoying because there's just so much cool shit to post.

Well, it's fun to be able to go like, well here's here because the people like it. Yeah, you notice their shit.

Well, it's fun to be able to go like, well here's here because the people like it. Yeah, you notice their shit.

It's you know, favorite one from my last episode is you know the part where I go dough A dead body, a female dead body. Someone took a photo of my face and put it over the face in sound of music Sound of music where she's singing on this on the hilltop to all the children, and it's just my little face, like a perfect photo of me with my mouth open, like looking like I'm singing, and it says do it, oh, Stephen, showing it to Karen right now.

It's you know, favorite one from my last episode is you know the part where I go dough A dead body, a female dead body. Someone took a photo of my face and put it over the face in sound of music Sound of music where she's singing on this on the hilltop to all the children, and it's just my little face, like a perfect photo of me with my mouth open, like looking like I'm singing, and it says do it, oh, Stephen, showing it to Karen right now.

I will, really who did it, Jessica Pe?

I will, really who did it, Jessica Pe?

Thank you, Jessica Pe.

Thank you, Jessica Pe.

Well done, Jessica Pee. That is hilarious because also the George's face, her mouth is open, it looks like she's going hi, but she's holding a guitar. That's hilarious.

Well done, Jessica Pee. That is hilarious because also the George's face, her mouth is open, it looks like she's going hi, but she's holding a guitar. That's hilarious.

So much good shit good.

So much good shit good.

You know. Sadly, somebody put my face inside of Selena's face. No, no, no, it's not not truly sadly. Oh this is this comedy podcast. But it was a picture of me before I stopped drinking. You can find such range of hideous pictures of me online. It's hilarious.

You know. Sadly, somebody put my face inside of Selena's face. No, no, no, it's not not truly sadly. Oh this is this comedy podcast. But it was a picture of me before I stopped drinking. You can find such range of hideous pictures of me online. It's hilarious.

I hate it.

I hate it.

It's not cool at all.

It's not cool at all.

When your weight fluctuates, you just and you get photographed. First things, A lot.

When your weight fluctuates, you just and you get photographed. First things, A lot.

Yeah, and you just you just kind of have to separate and you just I like, my thing is just like whatever, I know what I look like. That's not Oh my god, this one where they put my face and just I'm pretty sure it was Selena's picture. It was like big eighties hair with the pink background. Did you see that? So yet it was I was like, is that Charles Bronson wearing a wig? Like? It looked horrifying. I hate that. But of course I'm not complaining because of course all the people who saw it were like, oh my god, this is so cute, where you're just like what. Anyway, I had to complain, and also just we looked it up. This was in oh wait this if it if it was from the Minnesote, then you might not know what we're talking about. But last week's mini corner, what's.

Yeah, and you just you just kind of have to separate and you just I like, my thing is just like whatever, I know what I look like. That's not Oh my god, this one where they put my face and just I'm pretty sure it was Selena's picture. It was like big eighties hair with the pink background. Did you see that? So yet it was I was like, is that Charles Bronson wearing a wig? Like? It looked horrifying. I hate that. But of course I'm not complaining because of course all the people who saw it were like, oh my god, this is so cute, where you're just like what. Anyway, I had to complain, and also just we looked it up. This was in oh wait this if it if it was from the Minnesote, then you might not know what we're talking about. But last week's mini corner, what's.

That we have to say?

That we have to say?

Correction corner, direction corner yo, yo, Know, Georgia talked about a lady who had a disease and many doctors frighteningly enough, listen to this podcast. Yeah, because those are the people or medical students, I'm not sure people who know how it's actually pronounced.

Correction corner, direction corner yo, yo, Know, Georgia talked about a lady who had a disease and many doctors frighteningly enough, listen to this podcast. Yeah, because those are the people or medical students, I'm not sure people who know how it's actually pronounced.

Well, sorry, not sorry, I'm not a doctor or a medical student.

Well, sorry, not sorry, I'm not a doctor or a medical student.

Never say sorry, not sorry, just don't be sorry.

Never say sorry, not sorry, just don't be sorry.

Okay, yeah, I thought you were a berating me for trying to bring that back when you're trying to bring what was it with?

Okay, yeah, I thought you were a berating me for trying to bring that back when you're trying to bring what was it with?

Oh good point, No, throw that right in my face. I accept that you're one hundred percent right, but I hate sorry, not sorry, because you don't have to be sorry at all. I saw that crop up in like girls talking, where it's like girls, look sorry, that's not sorry, where it's like no, no, no, what you start out as look motherfucker, and then you say your actual opinion. Sorry, I'm kneeling.

Oh good point, No, throw that right in my face. I accept that you're one hundred percent right, but I hate sorry, not sorry, because you don't have to be sorry at all. I saw that crop up in like girls talking, where it's like girls, look sorry, that's not sorry, where it's like no, no, no, what you start out as look motherfucker, and then you say your actual opinion. Sorry, I'm kneeling.

Don't apologize.

Don't apologize.

I'm so tired. Oh you're right, I'm so tired. Here's how you pronounce it.

I'm so tired. Oh you're right, I'm so tired. Here's how you pronounce it.

Well, con sizure jesus, well, I got it.

Well, con sizure jesus, well, I got it.

There's like that's a sound clip from some guys on the radio or something in England who also didn't know how to say gian barre syndrome Kean barre. Well, so there, well, consider me wrong again, consider me always wrong.

There's like that's a sound clip from some guys on the radio or something in England who also didn't know how to say gian barre syndrome Kean barre. Well, so there, well, consider me wrong again, consider me always wrong.

Correction, Conda, I'm correcting, Conna. What else? How are you? What are you gonna say anything?

Correction, Conda, I'm correcting, Conna. What else? How are you? What are you gonna say anything?

I wish you guys could see Georgia right now her legs are so far up in the air. She is the most casual person I've ever seen in my life.

I wish you guys could see Georgia right now her legs are so far up in the air. She is the most casual person I've ever seen in my life.

This is the loungiest You're fucking lounging in your home, lounging so hard as is your American right, Stephen. Can you take a photo of me lounge right now? I'll put it on the vent. It takes my sweat. I'm also sweating.

This is the loungiest You're fucking lounging in your home, lounging so hard as is your American right, Stephen. Can you take a photo of me lounge right now? I'll put it on the vent. It takes my sweat. I'm also sweating.

That's cool. Sweat lounge.

That's cool. Sweat lounge.

And I got a meme cat on the took one photo just happened. Check it on the well. Let's plug our places Instagram dot com, slash my paper murder.

And I got a meme cat on the took one photo just happened. Check it on the well. Let's plug our places Instagram dot com, slash my paper murder.

Oh the face like a picture, only a picture of myself.

Oh the face like a picture, only a picture of myself.

I'm not mad mad. Look at those cheekbones, Karen.

I'm not mad mad. Look at those cheekbones, Karen.

I wasn't even really sucking the mall. You part's a bit off. Look at you.

I wasn't even really sucking the mall. You part's a bit off. Look at you.

Hilarious, that's my entire butt. Also, that's gonna end up on That's gonna end up on Wiki feet. I promise you can. I have a Wiki feet page. I mean, look at my feet. They're pretty fucking cute. Let's be honest. You deserve it, thank you. Yeah, I'm going to own it. You know why, because I don't have a Wikipedia page. So I'm okay with wiki beats, So you're gonna be fine. Here we go.

Hilarious, that's my entire butt. Also, that's gonna end up on That's gonna end up on Wiki feet. I promise you can. I have a Wiki feet page. I mean, look at my feet. They're pretty fucking cute. Let's be honest. You deserve it, thank you. Yeah, I'm going to own it. You know why, because I don't have a Wikipedia page. So I'm okay with wiki beats, So you're gonna be fine. Here we go.

You got to break in somehow.

You got to break in somehow.

You know what else pisses me? Well, I'm not gonna tell you. Never mind, I am hissed off that my high school they have like a list of like alumni who have done things not on there.

You know what else pisses me? Well, I'm not gonna tell you. Never mind, I am hissed off that my high school they have like a list of like alumni who have done things not on there.

Where's the list on Wikipedia?

Where's the list on Wikipedia?

Oh?

Oh?

Please, will someone who's good at computers go on to Wikipedia and edit that page. What's the high school name?

Please, will someone who's good at computers go on to Wikipedia and edit that page. What's the high school name?

Woodbridge High School in Irvine, California.

Woodbridge High School in Irvine, California.

Woodbridge High School, Irvine, California.

Woodbridge High School, Irvine, California.

Also, let everyone know I hate I hated them all.

Also, let everyone know I hate I hated them all.

I hate them. No, don't put that phone in now, this is your high school wiki feet page.

I hate them. No, don't put that phone in now, this is your high school wiki feet page.

Okay, the fan page, Okay, here's this is hilarious. So I try to start the fan page. We can't use the word murder in the title because Facebook is like, we recognize a word that you can't fucking you can't say because you're not you're a grown adult, and you know what I mean.

Okay, the fan page, Okay, here's this is hilarious. So I try to start the fan page. We can't use the word murder in the title because Facebook is like, we recognize a word that you can't fucking you can't say because you're not you're a grown adult, and you know what I mean.

I'm fine.

I'm fine.

So it's MFM podcast. It's the name of the Facebook fanpage.

So it's MFM podcast. It's the name of the Facebook fanpage.

Cool. So you kind of have to be an insider to know that it's the just the initials.

Cool. So you kind of have to be an insider to know that it's the just the initials.

Like winky wink. And then I think that means also that maybe your your family and friends won't know that you're part of a murder group. I think that's say MFM. Yeah, I think that's what people are worried about until they see the logo again grown adults.

Like winky wink. And then I think that means also that maybe your your family and friends won't know that you're part of a murder group. I think that's say MFM. Yeah, I think that's what people are worried about until they see the logo again grown adults.

Yeah. I mean that's the other thing too. Of all the people we know that that say I'm not weird, I'm not alone. You know, all that excitement, Well, now it's turning into because then the second wave seem to be people at work keep catching me listening to this and giving me baby looks, are seeing my the logo and giving me a weird look. But we just got a tweet from somebody who sent a picture that said, was it on the Facebook page or Twitter? I can't remember where they hang up a sign on the door that says murder time, Do not come in and then listen to the podcast at at work all together.

Yeah. I mean that's the other thing too. Of all the people we know that that say I'm not weird, I'm not alone. You know, all that excitement, Well, now it's turning into because then the second wave seem to be people at work keep catching me listening to this and giving me baby looks, are seeing my the logo and giving me a weird look. But we just got a tweet from somebody who sent a picture that said, was it on the Facebook page or Twitter? I can't remember where they hang up a sign on the door that says murder time, Do not come in and then listen to the podcast at at work all together.

Like the whole crew does.

Like the whole crew does.

Yeah, well, I mean she didn't. She was very vague about all of it, or shouting her I should find the name. But if you guys hear this, will you please send us at least slightly more information so we can give you a legit shout out because I it made me laugh so hard when I saw that, or.

Yeah, well, I mean she didn't. She was very vague about all of it, or shouting her I should find the name. But if you guys hear this, will you please send us at least slightly more information so we can give you a legit shout out because I it made me laugh so hard when I saw that, or.

Send us a photo of all of you listening secretly listen. And also I love that I've I've been noticing in the Facebook page likes. I'll like look at some comments sometimes late at night, and it'll be like comment, comment, comment, and then someone will comment to someone who already comments, and it'll be like, Alex, you're in this group, Like, oh my god, what's that? I can't believe it. We're like, we're totally like it's people keep recognizing their friends in there, and it's like, hilarious.

Send us a photo of all of you listening secretly listen. And also I love that I've I've been noticing in the Facebook page likes. I'll like look at some comments sometimes late at night, and it'll be like comment, comment, comment, and then someone will comment to someone who already comments, and it'll be like, Alex, you're in this group, Like, oh my god, what's that? I can't believe it. We're like, we're totally like it's people keep recognizing their friends in there, and it's like, hilarious.

I love it. Well, the same thing happened to me with my sister's best friend, Adrian, who I talked about I think on the very first episode.

I love it. Well, the same thing happened to me with my sister's best friend, Adrian, who I talked about I think on the very first episode.

She had a hometown.

She had a hometown.

Yeah, well, she loved Richard Ramirez, so when I said who should I talk about, it came out of her mouth so fast that that's when I discovered she was a murderer. Yeah, before the podcast had even started. And it was shocking because I've known her since she was twelve years old and I was ten years old, so Anne never knew that that was an interest of hers. So she recently started listening. She'd went backwards through it and has been texting me constantly of like, dude, I love this podcast so much. And Adrian and my sister were two of the most evil teenage girls anyone could have had the nightmare to grow up with. They were sullen and sulky, and I the only way they would let me hang out with them when she spent the night on the weekend. She would come and stay the whole weekend with us, but they would lock the door and leave me out of the room. And what I had to do to get in the room with Laura and Adrian was makeup a lip sync dance routine to a PAP and tar songs.

Yeah, well, she loved Richard Ramirez, so when I said who should I talk about, it came out of her mouth so fast that that's when I discovered she was a murderer. Yeah, before the podcast had even started. And it was shocking because I've known her since she was twelve years old and I was ten years old, so Anne never knew that that was an interest of hers. So she recently started listening. She'd went backwards through it and has been texting me constantly of like, dude, I love this podcast so much. And Adrian and my sister were two of the most evil teenage girls anyone could have had the nightmare to grow up with. They were sullen and sulky, and I the only way they would let me hang out with them when she spent the night on the weekend. She would come and stay the whole weekend with us, but they would lock the door and leave me out of the room. And what I had to do to get in the room with Laura and Adrian was makeup a lip sync dance routine to a PAP and tar songs.

Well, we're not moving forward right now in this podcast, and tell you fucking do that. Let's relive your nightmares.

Well, we're not moving forward right now in this podcast, and tell you fucking do that. Let's relive your nightmares.

We just basically play a pat pantor. But then yeah, and then you'd be like, right now, she's lifting her legs straight above her.

We just basically play a pat pantor. But then yeah, and then you'd be like, right now, she's lifting her legs straight above her.

Head, Oh my god, that's so big, sisters man.

Head, Oh my god, that's so big, sisters man.

Well, and also, just if you're younger and you hate your sister, just know that's going to change around when you're like twenty two, and then you're gonna be besties for the rest of your life.

Well, and also, just if you're younger and you hate your sister, just know that's going to change around when you're like twenty two, and then you're gonna be besties for the rest of your life.

You're gonna become the cool one exactly. My sister knows what's up well.

You're gonna become the cool one exactly. My sister knows what's up well.

And also I have my sister and aid room to think for like all of my training, because that's pretty much the most professional training I got.

And also I have my sister and aid room to think for like all of my training, because that's pretty much the most professional training I got.

And then oh yeah, on stage, it was pretty exome. I think, my I'm scared. I think my dad might start listening to.

And then oh yeah, on stage, it was pretty exome. I think, my I'm scared. I think my dad might start listening to.

This because what I thought he was already.

This because what I thought he was already.

I don't think so, because he was like I was hanging out with him over the weekend and he was like, tell me about your thing, like they don't understand it's a thing. And I was like, oh, it's this thing, and I'm like, well, he doesn't know how to download podcasts. And then he was like, looked at this phone and he like showed me the podcast and it was like the and I was like, uh huh, yeah, no, it's okay. He's cool.

I don't think so, because he was like I was hanging out with him over the weekend and he was like, tell me about your thing, like they don't understand it's a thing. And I was like, oh, it's this thing, and I'm like, well, he doesn't know how to download podcasts. And then he was like, looked at this phone and he like showed me the podcast and it was like the and I was like, uh huh, yeah, no, it's okay. He's cool.

He doesn't care about the Efford, does he?

He doesn't care about the Efford, does he?

Oh my god? No, my god. You can't have me as a child and care about the Efford. Care about a lot of things. Honestly, I think he's happy that I'm alive, survived my own I mean that I'm alive that you're alive of us me too.

Oh my god? No, my god. You can't have me as a child and care about the Efford. Care about a lot of things. Honestly, I think he's happy that I'm alive, survived my own I mean that I'm alive that you're alive of us me too.

It was supposed to be a compliment.

It was supposed to be a compliment.

Oh thank you. All right, you guys, we're going to get into our favorite murders. Yes, we're gonna take a quick pee break. We'll be right back for my favorite murder skippers.

Oh thank you. All right, you guys, we're going to get into our favorite murders. Yes, we're gonna take a quick pee break. We'll be right back for my favorite murder skippers.

This is your time to come on home, Come on home, be right back. All right. That was a big, long one. Did you really not ever finish the Night of? You've never seen the end? I didn't never finish it.

This is your time to come on home, Come on home, be right back. All right. That was a big, long one. Did you really not ever finish the Night of? You've never seen the end? I didn't never finish it.

I just I'm so impatient with shows like I just don't. I can't get through anything. I get through a series, it should get an oscar immediately because it's good.

I just I'm so impatient with shows like I just don't. I can't get through anything. I get through a series, it should get an oscar immediately because it's good.

Can you think of an example of a series you got through because you liked the lead actor the way I, of course, was returning week after week for my friend Resimmon.

Can you think of an example of a series you got through because you liked the lead actor the way I, of course, was returning week after week for my friend Resimmon.

No, but I can think of one that I got through even though I don't like the lead actor, and that's how good it was. But this might get us in trouble because it's Ozark.

No, but I can think of one that I got through even though I don't like the lead actor, and that's how good it was. But this might get us in trouble because it's Ozark.

Oh you're not a Bateman fan.

Oh you're not a Bateman fan.

I love Jason Bateman. Thing is a great actor. He just does this thing that drives me crazy. And you'll you'll never not see it again if I tell you, or he goes okay at the end of every sentence, okay, okay, okay, Yeah.

I love Jason Bateman. Thing is a great actor. He just does this thing that drives me crazy. And you'll you'll never not see it again if I tell you, or he goes okay at the end of every sentence, okay, okay, okay, Yeah.

He's being he does that. He's been casual, improvisational, real.

He's being he does that. He's been casual, improvisational, real.

Talking exactly, and I know that and knows what he's doing. But I can't ignore it, and I can't be like that's a character because Jason Bateman keeps fucking doing that. Yes, that's right, but it was such a good show that I was able to get past that. Wow, So yeah, I think we can leave that in.

Talking exactly, and I know that and knows what he's doing. But I can't ignore it, and I can't be like that's a character because Jason Bateman keeps fucking doing that. Yes, that's right, but it was such a good show that I was able to get past that. Wow, So yeah, I think we can leave that in.

Okay, Okay, his hands on his hips, Okay, yeah, no, leave it.

Okay, Okay, his hands on his hips, Okay, yeah, no, leave it.

Let's fucking let's get some fucking drama. Yeah, that's podcasting.

Let's fucking let's get some fucking drama. Yeah, that's podcasting.

Come on, cross cross podcast rivalries.

Come on, cross cross podcast rivalries.

Well on, they've never heard of us.

Well on, they've never heard of us.

Let's fucking here's yeah, exactly. Well, here's how they will hear of you. Do you know that, uh you talked about that. You didn't make it on your high school's Wikipedia page.

Let's fucking here's yeah, exactly. Well, here's how they will hear of you. Do you know that, uh you talked about that. You didn't make it on your high school's Wikipedia page.

You are?

You are?

You are now on your high school's Wikipedia page.

You are now on your high school's Wikipedia page.

I know, some beautiful murdering. No fucking went and added in me, I don't, I wonder if it's still there and said that she hates it's Georgia attended high school da Dad and she hated every minute of it.

I know, some beautiful murdering. No fucking went and added in me, I don't, I wonder if it's still there and said that she hates it's Georgia attended high school da Dad and she hated every minute of it.

Hey yeah, Hey, that was an honor.

Hey yeah, Hey, that was an honor.

That was definitely one of those moments in the podcast where I was like, Wow, this is like, this is real, this is huge, this is like cool, it's huge, and I was so appreciate of it.

That was definitely one of those moments in the podcast where I was like, Wow, this is like, this is real, this is huge, this is like cool, it's huge, and I was so appreciate of it.

What I think is funny is that it's the Wikipedia page for your high school. It's not even like your Wikipedia page. It's like you were bummed about something that's real, sub sub sub you know.

What I think is funny is that it's the Wikipedia page for your high school. It's not even like your Wikipedia page. It's like you were bummed about something that's real, sub sub sub you know.

No, because every high school Wikipedia page has people who of note, who attended every single one of them, including this one, and had like these random like you know, sports fucking commentator or whatever. And I'm like, can I I think I think I've reached that excuse me cooking channel?

No, because every high school Wikipedia page has people who of note, who attended every single one of them, including this one, and had like these random like you know, sports fucking commentator or whatever. And I'm like, can I I think I think I've reached that excuse me cooking channel?

Can I please have it?

Can I please have it?

You know?

You know?

Yeah?

Yeah?

So, I mean but yours has one too? Did we ever look at up?

So, I mean but yours has one too? Did we ever look at up?

I doubt it. I mean no, I don't think it's a high school that has like literally two hundred kids at it in a small town in northern California has a Wikipedia page.

I doubt it. I mean no, I don't think it's a high school that has like literally two hundred kids at it in a small town in northern California has a Wikipedia page.

Yeah, this was a big one too.

Yeah, this was a big one too.

Yeah, we may have done unless we broke the law somehow, which or like because we got a nice new football field or something, but I don't think so. Yeah, yeah, okay, I don't know.

Yeah, we may have done unless we broke the law somehow, which or like because we got a nice new football field or something, but I don't think so. Yeah, yeah, okay, I don't know.

It's okay. It's like you got your high schoo like low key and mine is like, you know, high key, high keyhig in the highest key. I think we should post the photo on the when we post this episode on socials of the couch. Photo of us one of my favorites.

It's okay. It's like you got your high schoo like low key and mine is like, you know, high key, high keyhig in the highest key. I think we should post the photo on the when we post this episode on socials of the couch. Photo of us one of my favorites.

One of the great casual photos. What's the real word I'm looking for? Ass shot?

One of the great casual photos. What's the real word I'm looking for? Ass shot?

Just complete butt shot of me yep, Georgia's feet.

Just complete butt shot of me yep, Georgia's feet.

Wearing her hot pants. Yeah, with me with kind of my weird bald spot of like my calic, my calic bald spot that's always been there.

Wearing her hot pants. Yeah, with me with kind of my weird bald spot of like my calic, my calic bald spot that's always been there.

What's noticeable. And this is your cheekbones. Every time this gets posted, people comment on your cheekbones.

What's noticeable. And this is your cheekbones. Every time this gets posted, people comment on your cheekbones.

I'm very blessed, very blessed. Thank you, Pat. That's all Pat Kilgariff's doing.

I'm very blessed, very blessed. Thank you, Pat. That's all Pat Kilgariff's doing.

At those feet. I don't know who those are on mean you, Dad? I think those are Marty's.

At those feet. I don't know who those are on mean you, Dad? I think those are Marty's.

It would be amazing if you found out you were making so much money on wiki feet right now.

It would be amazing if you found out you were making so much money on wiki feet right now.

Man. Honestly, if if fans only whatever it's called existed in my twenties, I would have made some serious cash on those feet. Yeah, but what are you gonna do?

Man. Honestly, if if fans only whatever it's called existed in my twenties, I would have made some serious cash on those feet. Yeah, but what are you gonna do?

All right, well, let's get into Georgia's story right now about the murder of Selena.

All right, well, let's get into Georgia's story right now about the murder of Selena.

Hey we're back, skippers, Hi, hey friends. All right, my favorite murder this week is Selena Kutina horrez No. And the reason I'm doing it is that it is audio engineer Stevie raymore so the percast favorite murder tributes.

Hey we're back, skippers, Hi, hey friends. All right, my favorite murder this week is Selena Kutina horrez No. And the reason I'm doing it is that it is audio engineer Stevie raymore so the percast favorite murder tributes.

I yeah, no, I you've been sending me ship.

I yeah, no, I you've been sending me ship.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was like sing and I was like, oh my god, I'm watching it. And then see this Aaron Brockovich did, like a true crime.

I was like sing and I was like, oh my god, I'm watching it. And then see this Aaron Brockovich did, like a true crime.

Crazy that I watched. Watched it.

Crazy that I watched. Watched it.

Well, I grew up listening to Selena because I'm half my Yeah, I'm half Mexican, and so that music was always playing and I remember like even listening to music just feeling really sad for.

Well, I grew up listening to Selena because I'm half my Yeah, I'm half Mexican, and so that music was always playing and I remember like even listening to music just feeling really sad for.

Were you when she died? So you didn't know?

Were you when she died? So you didn't know?

Yeah, I mean I knew it affected because I would still go over to my family's houses.

Yeah, I mean I knew it affected because I would still go over to my family's houses.

And stuff, like she was huge. She was like Madonna times twenty.

And stuff, like she was huge. She was like Madonna times twenty.

Well, I'll tell you all about it. Oh, oh did I Stephen Kintinia Quintinia?

Well, I'll tell you all about it. Oh, oh did I Stephen Kintinia Quintinia?

Oh I don't, I mean Mexican but I don't know how to speak Spanish.

Oh I don't, I mean Mexican but I don't know how to speak Spanish.

I wrote it down like I was very I.

I wrote it down like I was very I.

Didn't notice speak Spanish either.

Didn't notice speak Spanish either.

I know, I know. You shut up. Oh, Karen, your doorbell phone is ringing. Selena Quintinia Perez was born on April sixteen, nineteen seventy one, in Lake Jackson, Texas, and was called the Mexican American Madonna.

I know, I know. You shut up. Oh, Karen, your doorbell phone is ringing. Selena Quintinia Perez was born on April sixteen, nineteen seventy one, in Lake Jackson, Texas, and was called the Mexican American Madonna.

Oh, I must have known that. I've watched the movie with Jayla.

Oh, I must have known that. I've watched the movie with Jayla.

I haven't seen it. Wonderful, Gosh, she's beautiful. They were both beautiful, and she was poised to become a crossover success when her death turned her into a legend. Selena's father discovered Selena's quote per fit, timing, and pitch and helped his kids form a band. And she was like nine years old when I started performing Wow the band Once his parents her parents lost their family restaurant. The band became the family's main source of income and they were in poverty. And this career, Selena's career just took them out of poverty because they were evicted from their home during the Texas oil bust of nineteen eighty two and they moved to Corpus Christi, Texas, which sounds very hot, doesn't it.

I haven't seen it. Wonderful, Gosh, she's beautiful. They were both beautiful, and she was poised to become a crossover success when her death turned her into a legend. Selena's father discovered Selena's quote per fit, timing, and pitch and helped his kids form a band. And she was like nine years old when I started performing Wow the band Once his parents her parents lost their family restaurant. The band became the family's main source of income and they were in poverty. And this career, Selena's career just took them out of poverty because they were evicted from their home during the Texas oil bust of nineteen eighty two and they moved to Corpus Christi, Texas, which sounds very hot, doesn't it.

Yeah, I think it's super southern in Texas, like down on the golf maybe right, don't yet I know I was like right, so I want to Well, my cousin Cheryl lived in Corpus Christi when I was like in junior high. Okay, but why do I ever say anything?

Yeah, I think it's super southern in Texas, like down on the golf maybe right, don't yet I know I was like right, so I want to Well, my cousin Cheryl lived in Corpus Christi when I was like in junior high. Okay, but why do I ever say anything?

Is that a big military town? I think it is.

Is that a big military town? I think it is.

Yes, In fact, it has twenty five that.

Yes, In fact, it has twenty five that.

Ian Corpus Christie for the rest of this So then the family band began recording music professionally, and in nineteen eighty four, when Selena was I think thirteen, the band released its first LP, Selenau Lostinos Fuck I hope, I.

Ian Corpus Christie for the rest of this So then the family band began recording music professionally, and in nineteen eighty four, when Selena was I think thirteen, the band released its first LP, Selenau Lostinos Fuck I hope, I.

Hope it's Selena and Fred Flinstone's dog Dinosaur.

Hope it's Selena and Fred Flinstone's dog Dinosaur.

Hate mail can be sent to Karen Kilgarath. I'm just translated Karen K's apartment or house at the address is so, yes, Stephen, you are correct. Selena was a third generation Texan of Mexican descent, so she didn't grow up speaking Spanish, so she didn't know any but she learned all her songs phonetically, and when her popularity grew, she had to.

Hate mail can be sent to Karen Kilgarath. I'm just translated Karen K's apartment or house at the address is so, yes, Stephen, you are correct. Selena was a third generation Texan of Mexican descent, so she didn't grow up speaking Spanish, so she didn't know any but she learned all her songs phonetically, and when her popularity grew, she had to.

Learn it and she did it very quickly.

Learn it and she did it very quickly.

Just like Roxette. Like what the band Roxette? What were they German?

Just like Roxette. Like what the band Roxette? What were they German?

Uh? Yeah, are Swedish or something?

Uh? Yeah, are Swedish or something?

Oh they had to learn English.

Oh they had to learn English.

Well no, they just sang phonetically. They didn't know what they were saying. That's funny. Must have been love. But it's all that she had no clue without.

Well no, they just sang phonetically. They didn't know what they were saying. That's funny. Must have been love. But it's all that she had no clue without.

Song how but it's so powerful. But it sounds so.

Song how but it's so powerful. But it sounds so.

The ignorance makes it powerful.

The ignorance makes it powerful.

That's what it is like, because that's what love does too. Nice's a stupid idiot, that's right, Okay. Grew in popularity in the year nineteen eighty seven. She won the Tonaho Oh God, I Hannah to Hano Music Award. I like, I was watching videos to get this correctly and I'm just screwing it all up to Hannah Music Award for Female Vocalist of the Year, and then she landed her first major record deal with Capital Latin in nineteen eighty nine. So she performed several times at the Houston Astroderm Dome to sold out crowds of more than sixty thousand people, and after her death, Time described her as the embodiment of young, smart, hit Mexican American youth from a tight knit family and a down to earth personality, a Madonna without the controversy. Essentially, she was a huge Mexican American star in her community and was poised to become a mainstream sess and that community was obsessed with her and proud of her and felt like she was one of their own. Yeah, and she was a big fucking deal yea. And she seemed like a very sweet person. Everyone in her band was her family except the guy the guitarists they hired who she ended up marrying. Oh, like they were. They seemed like good people.

That's what it is like, because that's what love does too. Nice's a stupid idiot, that's right, Okay. Grew in popularity in the year nineteen eighty seven. She won the Tonaho Oh God, I Hannah to Hano Music Award. I like, I was watching videos to get this correctly and I'm just screwing it all up to Hannah Music Award for Female Vocalist of the Year, and then she landed her first major record deal with Capital Latin in nineteen eighty nine. So she performed several times at the Houston Astroderm Dome to sold out crowds of more than sixty thousand people, and after her death, Time described her as the embodiment of young, smart, hit Mexican American youth from a tight knit family and a down to earth personality, a Madonna without the controversy. Essentially, she was a huge Mexican American star in her community and was poised to become a mainstream sess and that community was obsessed with her and proud of her and felt like she was one of their own. Yeah, and she was a big fucking deal yea. And she seemed like a very sweet person. Everyone in her band was her family except the guy the guitarists they hired who she ended up marrying. Oh, like they were. They seemed like good people.

It's like a Jackson five situation, totally a super talented young kid.

It's like a Jackson five situation, totally a super talented young kid.

Yeah, but not creepy. And her dad was the manager, so they were very more like a Partridge family. But there we go. But actually, yeah, or like a Manson family. Fuck, cut that out, don't cut that out?

Yeah, but not creepy. And her dad was the manager, so they were very more like a Partridge family. But there we go. But actually, yeah, or like a Manson family. Fuck, cut that out, don't cut that out?

Not sorry?

Not sorry?

All right? Where am I cut to? Mid nineteen ninety one, Yolanda Saldivar. She was so you see all these photos of her and videos of her. She was when she got arrested. She was thirty five years old. What that's quote unquote my age. She's thirty five. She looks like a fucking grandma. Yeah, Okay, So ninety one. Yolanda Saldivar was around thirty and she was an in home nurse for patients with terminal cancer and just a fan of Tahano music. Just a fucking random woman. She had a history of stealing money from her employers as well as trying to become intertwined with the lives of other performers, and she attended one of Selena's concerts and became a fucking psychotic fan with the intent of starting Selena's fan club. She started obsessively calling Selena's father, leaving almost fifteen messages until he gave her permission in June of nineteen ninety one to be the president of the fan club, which sounds like, okay, you know what, take this run with it to your thing, right.

All right? Where am I cut to? Mid nineteen ninety one, Yolanda Saldivar. She was so you see all these photos of her and videos of her. She was when she got arrested. She was thirty five years old. What that's quote unquote my age. She's thirty five. She looks like a fucking grandma. Yeah, Okay, So ninety one. Yolanda Saldivar was around thirty and she was an in home nurse for patients with terminal cancer and just a fan of Tahano music. Just a fucking random woman. She had a history of stealing money from her employers as well as trying to become intertwined with the lives of other performers, and she attended one of Selena's concerts and became a fucking psychotic fan with the intent of starting Selena's fan club. She started obsessively calling Selena's father, leaving almost fifteen messages until he gave her permission in June of nineteen ninety one to be the president of the fan club, which sounds like, okay, you know what, take this run with it to your thing, right.

Right, because you're harassing us. Yeah, So I mean that's it. It's the thing that they didn't know back then that people know nowadays, which is don't engage, right.

Right, because you're harassing us. Yeah, So I mean that's it. It's the thing that they didn't know back then that people know nowadays, which is don't engage, right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Fifteen calls to anybody at any time is too many. Yeah, I don't care if, like, you have a flat tire and you're going she's.

Fifteen calls to anybody at any time is too many. Yeah, I don't care if, like, you have a flat tire and you're going she's.

Many assistant, and she wants to run this thing and make us more money. And it's a thing that we haven't started, and maybe it'll help her with her Like this is what I'm thinking, was there, you know what I mean? Like I'm just saying that's three calls totally in a day, totally totally. Also like you don't need to have contact with her after that. Okay. So as president of the fan club, she was responsible for membership benefits, collecting money, and promoting Selena all that kind of thing. And she actually didn't meet Selena until December ninety one, but they became close friends and Yolanda became a trusted trusted by her whole family. In ninety four, she became Selena's assistant and quit her job as a nurse.

Many assistant, and she wants to run this thing and make us more money. And it's a thing that we haven't started, and maybe it'll help her with her Like this is what I'm thinking, was there, you know what I mean? Like I'm just saying that's three calls totally in a day, totally totally. Also like you don't need to have contact with her after that. Okay. So as president of the fan club, she was responsible for membership benefits, collecting money, and promoting Selena all that kind of thing. And she actually didn't meet Selena until December ninety one, but they became close friends and Yolanda became a trusted trusted by her whole family. In ninety four, she became Selena's assistant and quit her job as a nurse.

Oh I didn't know that. Yeah, I did not know that. I thought she was just the fan club.

Oh I didn't know that. Yeah, I did not know that. I thought she was just the fan club.

No, she became her assistant. She quit her job as a nurse, even though she's making more money as a nurse than she was doing this. Like she was just so obsessed and had posters all over her house and people come over, she would just make them watch Selena videos, talked about nothing else and was just like kind of like crazy about Selena.

No, she became her assistant. She quit her job as a nurse, even though she's making more money as a nurse than she was doing this. Like she was just so obsessed and had posters all over her house and people come over, she would just make them watch Selena videos, talked about nothing else and was just like kind of like crazy about Selena.

Wow.

Wow.

Yeah, I was.

Yeah, I was.

Kind of that way about kids in the Hall for a little while, but it was a dark period of my life. Yeah, I was just I had flunked out of college and I was just weirdly obsessed. It was when they were running them on Comedy Central, and I just it was the only thing that made me happy.

Kind of that way about kids in the Hall for a little while, but it was a dark period of my life. Yeah, I was just I had flunked out of college and I was just weirdly obsessed. It was when they were running them on Comedy Central, and I just it was the only thing that made me happy.

The laugh was the creepiest that was. I've never heard that laugh before.

The laugh was the creepiest that was. I've never heard that laugh before.

I just realized, I mean, every we all have the potential. Everybody likes a thing, sure like crazy.

I just realized, I mean, every we all have the potential. Everybody likes a thing, sure like crazy.

And wants some like has this feeling of like ownership and like yeah, and like no one understands it the way I understand it. It's almost made for me kind of thing. Yes, but have you met them and told that that?

And wants some like has this feeling of like ownership and like yeah, and like no one understands it the way I understand it. It's almost made for me kind of thing. Yes, but have you met them and told that that?

See? My thing is that. And maybe it's just from working in TV. I really don't like celebrities. Like there's nothing more disappointing. And I think most people know it these days from reality TV and stuff. Celebrities are very disappointing in real life except for us. Yeah, No, they're just I mean, the most they'll be is slightly pleasant. But for the most art you will you will have regretted trying to be like, hey, can I get a picture? I'm or whatever you're not.

See? My thing is that. And maybe it's just from working in TV. I really don't like celebrities. Like there's nothing more disappointing. And I think most people know it these days from reality TV and stuff. Celebrities are very disappointing in real life except for us. Yeah, No, they're just I mean, the most they'll be is slightly pleasant. But for the most art you will you will have regretted trying to be like, hey, can I get a picture? I'm or whatever you're not.

In and it's some obscure thing and they'll don't care.

In and it's some obscure thing and they'll don't care.

They don't care. It's super weird. It's like, you know, yeah, it ruins it almost.

They don't care. It's super weird. It's like, you know, yeah, it ruins it almost.

So yeah, good luck everybody, Good luck in life. You're sucking cute little fantasies, all right. Well then, so in ninety four, Selena starts opening fashion boutiques. She has two of them opening up. It's called Selena et cetera.

So yeah, good luck everybody, Good luck in life. You're sucking cute little fantasies, all right. Well then, so in ninety four, Selena starts opening fashion boutiques. She has two of them opening up. It's called Selena et cetera.

I didn't know about that.

I didn't know about that.

Yeah, I didn't either, because she has this crazy style. It's very nineties and very like on point, like you know, almost madonnay, but a little more hip, real cute.

Yeah, I didn't either, because she has this crazy style. It's very nineties and very like on point, like you know, almost madonnay, but a little more hip, real cute.

It's those huge well from what I remember in the movie, there's like a lot of ruffles, yeah, and a lot of like you know, shimmery velvety pants and stuff.

It's those huge well from what I remember in the movie, there's like a lot of ruffles, yeah, and a lot of like you know, shimmery velvety pants and stuff.

Like that, hoop earrings and red lipstick and yeah, it's totally pretty fucking sweet. So so she she's opening these clothing, these fashion stores and asks Saldivar to become the manager of the botiques. So Saldivart, because of doing this, is authorized to write and cash checks, had access to the bank accounts associated with the fan club and the botiques, and Selena gave her an American Express card for the purpose of conducting company business.

Like that, hoop earrings and red lipstick and yeah, it's totally pretty fucking sweet. So so she she's opening these clothing, these fashion stores and asks Saldivar to become the manager of the botiques. So Saldivart, because of doing this, is authorized to write and cash checks, had access to the bank accounts associated with the fan club and the botiques, and Selena gave her an American Express card for the purpose of conducting company business.

So she put her stalker. She made her stocker the CEO.

So she put her stalker. She made her stocker the CEO.

Oh of doody know that she's the stalker though, oh right, Oh yeah, Selene has no idea that she's the stalker.

Oh of doody know that she's the stalker though, oh right, Oh yeah, Selene has no idea that she's the stalker.

She just thinks she's a good friend of hers. That's like willing to do all this.

She just thinks she's a good friend of hers. That's like willing to do all this.

Hard Yeah, that's like, you know, Selene's in this bubble of becoming famous and touring and all these things, and this person is becoming a trusted confidante and is a huge fan.

Hard Yeah, that's like, you know, Selene's in this bubble of becoming famous and touring and all these things, and this person is becoming a trusted confidante and is a huge fan.

And clearly is an intelligent woman if she's a nurse.

And clearly is an intelligent woman if she's a nurse.

Yeah that other yeah, totally okay, Yeah, and everyone said she was very manipulative and good at you know, being manipulative.

Yeah that other yeah, totally okay, Yeah, and everyone said she was very manipulative and good at you know, being manipulative.

Yeah, so Tine calls. That's all I have to say.

Yeah, so Tine calls. That's all I have to say.

Yeah, it worked somehow. So within a year Saldivar had mismanaged the boutiques and they were failing. And then upon investigation, the family finds out that Saldivar had embezzled more than I saw sixty thousand, but I also saw one hundred thousand dollars wow, and forged checks from both the fan club and the boutiques. But Selena refused to believe it. She was like, no way, that's my friend. Like even her father, who was a manager, and her husband and brother were like dude. They were like dude, probably not like that. But eventually Selena kind of sees some shit going on and believes it and the family fires. Hor tells her not to come near Selena, but Selena still wanted to become friends, stay friends. She was like, you don't work from anymore, but let's stay friends. So at this time, Saldivar purchase is a snubnose thirty eight caliber revolver. And here's what I think is the fucked up thing is is wet caliber hollow point bullets. Then the bullets were designed to cause more extensive injuries than normal bullets, which like throws out. Later we'll talk about it. So on March thirty first, in nineteen eighty five, she convinces Selena to meet You'll not her alone in a day's in motel room, promising to restore to return financial documents that she had stolen, and telling Selena that she had to come alone and that she had that Yolanda had been raped and needed someone to talk to. And this she has to make up this lie because three other times in the past couple of weeks, Yolanda had tried to get her alone and it had been foiled every time, and her husband had come or did they had met in a parking lot or something like that. So, so Yolanda was trying to get her alone. Yeah, So in the hotel room, they kind of they kind of fight over the documents, and as they're doing that, the gun comes out and Selena turns to run and out the door, and Saldivar shoots her in the back as she's running out, severing an artery leading from her heart and it came out the front of her chest on the other side, so it's kind of like a shoulder shot. And Selena's running towards the motel lobby as she's bleeding, and Saldivar comes there. Was witness said that she chased after her, pointing the gun at her and calling her a bitch. Selena around one hundred and thirty yards to the motel's lobby and collapsed on the floor. And meanwhile Yolanda's now trying to escape in her car, and it was theorized that she's heading to the recording studio where the rest of Selena's family is to kill them too, that's what they thought. But a police officer who was around the corner responded stopped her, and instead of getting out of the car, she pulls the car into a parking space and gets kind of blocked in in this parking spot. So she's in her car in a parking spot with a gun, won't come out. In the meantime, the motel staff is trying to help Selena. An ambulance comes in less than two minutes, but Selena's pronounced dead at one oh five from loss of blood and cardiac arrest. Her last words were this fucking makes me want to cry. Her last words your Yolanda Salavad salev Saldivar, Room one fifty eight. Those were her last words, like not tell my family I love them, and she was just trying to make sure they knew. Yeah, which makes me so sad. It's just like the last words out of your mouth are about your killer's name. Well yeah, I mean I know, like I know, like you should get them out, but then it's just wish it could then be like something sweeter. And she was only twenty three years old. Oh no, no, baby, Well, an autopsy's performed, and this is what I thought when I heard about her running after getting shot. She died of heart failure. Wait, though we realized Selena's heart fueled by adrenaline, and I think from running pumped all the blood out of her surflatory system. So I feel like if she hadn't run, she either might have gotten shot again by Yolanda, but or the blood might.

Yeah, it worked somehow. So within a year Saldivar had mismanaged the boutiques and they were failing. And then upon investigation, the family finds out that Saldivar had embezzled more than I saw sixty thousand, but I also saw one hundred thousand dollars wow, and forged checks from both the fan club and the boutiques. But Selena refused to believe it. She was like, no way, that's my friend. Like even her father, who was a manager, and her husband and brother were like dude. They were like dude, probably not like that. But eventually Selena kind of sees some shit going on and believes it and the family fires. Hor tells her not to come near Selena, but Selena still wanted to become friends, stay friends. She was like, you don't work from anymore, but let's stay friends. So at this time, Saldivar purchase is a snubnose thirty eight caliber revolver. And here's what I think is the fucked up thing is is wet caliber hollow point bullets. Then the bullets were designed to cause more extensive injuries than normal bullets, which like throws out. Later we'll talk about it. So on March thirty first, in nineteen eighty five, she convinces Selena to meet You'll not her alone in a day's in motel room, promising to restore to return financial documents that she had stolen, and telling Selena that she had to come alone and that she had that Yolanda had been raped and needed someone to talk to. And this she has to make up this lie because three other times in the past couple of weeks, Yolanda had tried to get her alone and it had been foiled every time, and her husband had come or did they had met in a parking lot or something like that. So, so Yolanda was trying to get her alone. Yeah, So in the hotel room, they kind of they kind of fight over the documents, and as they're doing that, the gun comes out and Selena turns to run and out the door, and Saldivar shoots her in the back as she's running out, severing an artery leading from her heart and it came out the front of her chest on the other side, so it's kind of like a shoulder shot. And Selena's running towards the motel lobby as she's bleeding, and Saldivar comes there. Was witness said that she chased after her, pointing the gun at her and calling her a bitch. Selena around one hundred and thirty yards to the motel's lobby and collapsed on the floor. And meanwhile Yolanda's now trying to escape in her car, and it was theorized that she's heading to the recording studio where the rest of Selena's family is to kill them too, that's what they thought. But a police officer who was around the corner responded stopped her, and instead of getting out of the car, she pulls the car into a parking space and gets kind of blocked in in this parking spot. So she's in her car in a parking spot with a gun, won't come out. In the meantime, the motel staff is trying to help Selena. An ambulance comes in less than two minutes, but Selena's pronounced dead at one oh five from loss of blood and cardiac arrest. Her last words were this fucking makes me want to cry. Her last words your Yolanda Salavad salev Saldivar, Room one fifty eight. Those were her last words, like not tell my family I love them, and she was just trying to make sure they knew. Yeah, which makes me so sad. It's just like the last words out of your mouth are about your killer's name. Well yeah, I mean I know, like I know, like you should get them out, but then it's just wish it could then be like something sweeter. And she was only twenty three years old. Oh no, no, baby, Well, an autopsy's performed, and this is what I thought when I heard about her running after getting shot. She died of heart failure. Wait, though we realized Selena's heart fueled by adrenaline, and I think from running pumped all the blood out of her surflatory system. So I feel like if she hadn't run, she either might have gotten shot again by Yolanda, but or the blood might.

Not have It's those hollow point bullets.

Not have It's those hollow point bullets.

Yeah, I mean, I don't think you can get shot and it comes out the other side and you can survive that, right.

Yeah, I mean, I don't think you can get shot and it comes out the other side and you can survive that, right.

No, because isn't that part of it? Is like they explode inside you and so when they come out, they just instead of a bullet hole size coming out, it like rips out. I mean those things are evil.

No, because isn't that part of it? Is like they explode inside you and so when they come out, they just instead of a bullet hole size coming out, it like rips out. I mean those things are evil.

Yeah, well eats. The thing is so event So Sealda ours trying to say, I was just trying to say that it was an accident, that she was going to kill herself, But it's like, well, why did you buy those bullets then? Yeah, like you clearly had a motive. So meanwhile, there's a nine hour standoff with Yolanda in which she is in her car with the gun to her head hysterically on the phone with the hostage or with the negotiator, trying to say that she didn't mean to kill her, she was an accident, she was trying to kill herself, and all these other excuses. But ultimately, let's see, da da da, she gave herself in and she got arrested. She's tried for first degree murder and claimed that the gun quote accidentally went off, and all these other excuses, but ultimately it didn't work, and the jurors deliberated for less than three hours, and on October twenty third, nineteen ninety five, they found Saldevar guilty. She's sentenced to life in prison with the possibility of parole in thirty years, which is going to be March twenty twenty five. But everyone's like, she is so incredibly hated in Texas. She will be murdered and she has to be in solitary confinement because of that, because.