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Just down my can of rose? Perfect? And you know what that means? Do you know that I don't know what that means? Do you know what you know that mean? So today's story, straight up, is about the murders of two children. Takes place in t Coma, Washington. They went unsolved for more than thirty years, one of those ones that I've followed. It's just heartbreaking, and finally, thanks to the dogged work of some cold case detectives, families that never gave up their quest for answers and advances in technology, there was eventually some justice for these two girls and these cases were solved. Great. Yes, this is the story of Jennifer Bastian and Michelle O Welch, And I think for a lot of people from the eighties in the Tacoma area, this is like an old wound that has stuck with them for sure. Yes. The main sources I use for this story are an episode of Dateline called Evil Was Watching and an episode of Cold Case Files called taken in Tacoma. There's also a book called in My DNA, and the book is written by Lindsay Wade, who's one of the cold case detectives who eventually solves this case.
She's really awesome. The rest of the sources can be found in the show notes. So here we are Tacoma, Washington. It's nineteen eighty six. Tacoma is a quiet, blue collar, working class town, quintessentially Pacific Northwest safe.
It's the eighties. Kids are riding their bikes, you know, till the street lights go on, that kind of thing, you know. Jennifer Bashian is thirteen years old and lives with her parents obviously, Patricia and Ralph, and her fifteen year old sister Teresa. Her mom says, quote, Jennifer was a bundle of energy. She was ready to go at a moment's notice. Jennifer loves sports and never can never sit still. Her sister says she was prone to getting up from the dining room table and just starting to do acrobatics, like in the middle of the living room during dinner. She's just had a lot of energy.
Yeah, it was a big time for back walkovers. The mid to early eighties. Yeah, Mary lou Retten was all the rage. We all wanted to be like her. So on August fourth, nineteen eighty six, it's a beautiful day in Tacoma, Jennifer leaves the house on her bike. She's supposed to go on a long distance cycling trip soon with a group from the YMCA, and so Jennifer is kind of small for her age. She's pretty and blonde, and she's determined not to be the slowest on this bike trip, so she's been practicing a lot.
Usually she goes out with her friend, but today her friend is busy and she goes by herself. Jennifer heads out to Point Defiance Park, and Park is a misleading It's a sprawling seven hundred and sixty acre expanse with densely wooded areas, Pacific northwest, e a zoo, a beach. It jets out on a little peninsula into the Puget Sound, has sheer cliffs that drop off into the water, so it's actually like pretty wild, but people are always there. People love it. Her parents know this is her plan, and she leaves a note saying she'll be home by six thirty. At six thirty, Jennifer doesn't show up for dinner, and her parents just immediately know something is wrong. At eight point thirty, they call the police. That evening, Teresa, Jennifer's sister, had been out at the movies and her father picks her up at nine pm and he tells her that Jennifer hasn't come home, and Teresa says, quote, his voice cracked and I could see he had been crying, and I knew that something was very wrong.
Yeah.
Police take a piece of Jennifer's clothing and give it to bloodhounds to try to track her from the park. The dog's track her to the park to an area called the five Mile Drive that goes around the peninsula, but after that they lose the scent. So over the course of the next three days, police officers are on foot and on horseback along with volunteers, and they search the densely wooded park and they don't find any trace of Jennifer. Meanwhile, back at the Vastionian household, Patty, the mother, answers a knock at the door and finds a woman named Barbara Welch there. Barbara tells Patty she is there to offer emotional support as just weeks earlier, on the other side of Puget Sound, Barbara's own pretty blonde daughter had gone missing. Oh no, yeah, So we're going back to the morning of March twenty sixth, nineteen eighty six. We were in August. Now we're back in March, and twelve year old Michelle Welch is at Puget Park with her two little sisters, Nicole and Angela, And this story, the stud of circumstances, has stuck with me for so fucking long. The girls have a regular babysitter, but today Michelle is in charge. And the way her sisters describe her, she takes great care of them. She's a really great kind of bossy older sister. The girl's mom, Barbara, is raising them on her own, and she works hard to support her family. She's recently bought the family home and Tacoma's North End. Michelle has long blonde hair, is on the small side for her age. She wears glasses. About her sister, Nicole says, she was just a beautiful child. She loved music. She was an amazing artist. She played the piano, she played the violin, She loved to read. Definitely the bossy older sister. It's spring break, so Barbara, the mom, is working, but there's no school, so the girls are supposed to have a piano lesson later that day, and the piano teacher lives right near Puget Park, so the girls had gotten permission to play the park for a half hour before the piano lesson, but the girls decide to bend the rules and they leave like almost three hours before the piano listened to play around ten am. At about eleven am, the girls realized they'd left their lunch at home. Michelle bikes home to get it. While Michelle is at home, her sisters need to use the bathroom, so they leave the park and go to a local business because there's no bathroom at the park. When they return to the playground area, they see their sister's bike she had come back, and their lunches on a picnic table, but there's no sign of their sister, Michelle.
It's so scary.
It looks like Michelle got back when they were using the bathroom and then maybe wandered off to look for them. Oh my heartbreaks for them. Yeah, Angela says quote. Her bike was locked up and the bag was ripped open. It was very bizarre, and we went looking end Quote. The two girls do their family call wait, which it's the pre cell phone era. The family uses this call in crowds to loc at each other. It's like a you who. So they wander around doing the you who. They don't hear anything, so they call the babysitter. The babysitter calls the girls mom and the police, and Barbara races to the scene and police officers search the park starting at about three pm. Barbara says about that period waiting for her daughter to be found. Quote, there's an emptiness there. Time sort of stands still. At eleven pm, police find Michelle's body in the gulch near a makeshift fire pit, about a quarter of a mile from the picnic tables. She has been killed by blunt force trauma to the head, as well as a cut to her neck, and there's evidence that she's been sexually assaulted. God Michelle's mother, Barbara, is sitting in a police car when she gets the news that her daughter has been found. In the investigation that follows, police canvas the area and interview everyone they can find who is in the park. One of Misa Shell's classmates, who was at the park that day, says he saw a man standing under a bridge that was near the playground. He says he noticed this man seemed to be watching the girls. He's able to give enough details for a composite sketch, and a long list of people are questioned, but over the next couple months, no one emerges as a compelling suspect. So when Barbara hears in August about another young girl going missing in the area, Jennifer Bashion, Barbara decides to act and goes to their house to offer emotional support. On August twenty six, twenty two days after Jennifer first goes missing, a jogger on one of the wooded trails in the park notices a smell. He alerts park police. They come and can't find anything. They bring a dog. They don't find anything, but I think they all kind of knew what they were looking for at that point. This because of the smell. So it takes two more days for searchers to find Jennifer's body. She's not far from five mile drive. It appears she had been sexually assaulted, and she had a thin ligature on her neck, which a later autopsy will determine to be the cause of death, and her bike is found nearby, about sixty feet away. The area where Jennifer has found is about one hundred and fifty feet from the actual trail, and at the time, the corner says it looks like the area had been chosen and prepared in advance. So obviously life changes completely for the children in Tacoma after these two girls you know, are murdered. They're no longer allowed to go out and ride their bikes unsupervised. Everyone is on edge thinking there's a potential serial killer targeting young girls. It's just terrifying time and Tacoma. Because of the similarities between Jennifer and Michelle as murders and the similarities between the girls themselves, they do look like law enforcement also believes they're looking for one killer. Puget Park and Point Defiance Park are both in Tacoma's North End. They're only about three miles from each other, so like in Michelle's case, many people reported crossing paths with Jennifer the afternoon and evening she went missing. Among them were some classmates of Jennifers who said they saw a man wearing reflective sunglasses riding a bike closely behind Jennifer, like seemingly keeping pace with her. A caposit sketches made at this man two. The two sketches from both cases don't look terribly different from each other. They kind of look like the same person, so everyone's assuming this is one one killer. Detectives get lots of tips, but ultimately the investigation doesn't make any headway. They have nothing to go on. It's the eighties, there's no DNA to really test. They keep meticulous records of every lead, thousands of names. Eventually, the leads dry up and the case goes cold. A patrol officer named Jeene Miller works on these two cases when they first happen, and then through the rest of his career as he becomes a detective and moves up through the ranks. Jean says, quote it's a very difficult thing to be intimately involved in these investigations and to not be making progress end quote. So still in the summer of nineteen eighty six, there's another little girl who like to ride her bike Oliver Tacoma. She's eleven and her name is Lindsay Jackson, though we'll eventually know her as Detective Lindsay Wade Oh. Lindsay says that after the two killings, she and her friends were afraid to ride their bikes. In her book In My Dna, she writes, quote, before the killings, I was a carefree kid, oblivious to the dangers lurking behind my safe, middle class, suburban neighborhood. After learning that.
Two little girls have been murdered while they.
Were out doing the kinds of things I liked to do, riding their bikes, I was scared. Yeah. So, when Lindsay is a sophomore in high school, she stumbles across a book in the school library, it's Anne Rules the stranger beside Me.
So legendary now, I mean, but also like so fateful. Yeah, everybody found that book around that time where it's like early junior high. Yeah, you're suddenly like I need to know what's going on.
It's almost like the librarians at junior highs and high schools are like, we need to at least have one cop of this so the cool, lonely girl can come find.
Well, and especially for the kids in that area at that time where it really.
Green river killer Ted Bundy, but.
Like kids specific, Yeah, that's the thing that happened in Petaluma when polyclass was taken and eventually found dead. The kids themselves were changed in like implicitly changed.
It's so heavy, Yeah, Lindsay writes, quote, after absorbing every detail of the book, I knew I wanted to be a detective just like Bob Kepple. I wanted to catch men like Ted Bundy and Anne Rule's book inspired the course of my life to come.
Yeah.
Incredible. Lindsay graduates from the Police Academy in nineteen ninety seven, when she's about twenty two. Lindsay, who's biracial, is the only woman of color in her graduating class, and is one of six women total. By the early two thousands, when she's in her early thirties, Lindsay is working on Tacoma's Special Assault Unit, which focuses on solving sexual assaults. That's where she meets Gene Miller, the patrol cop who had been working both cases from the start. The two of them stay close throughout their careers, and in twenty eleven, Gene starts to Coma's first cold case unit and Lindsay eventually joins him there. So this is one of those cases where the evidence is preserved and science gets a chance to catch up, which is great. In two thousand and six, swab from Michelle Welch's autopsy are tested and from them investigators are able to create a DNA profile for her killer. The DNA from Michelle's body doesn't match anyone in the database unfortunately, and Jennifer's body had been too badly decomposed to take the same kinds of samples when she was found, So from twenty six to twenty thirteen there's no DNA profile from Jennifer's body, but police assume they're looking for the same person who killed Michelle. Then in twenty thirteen, Lindsay and Jane send the swimsuit Jennifer had been wearing when she was killed to the lab. It had been found like around one ankle, so they assumed that there wasn't any DNA on it, so they just wanted to get Jennifer's DNA profile, you know, just in case they need it in the future. But a few months later, Lindsay gets a call from the lab and the technician is like, do you also want the profile for the male DNA that we found.
On this swimsuit? Oh my god, spermazoa on the swimsuit. The DNA doesn't match any one in the system, but this in and of itself is a massive revelation. They would have expected it to match the unknown sample that was entered into the database in two thousand and six from Michelle's killer, and for the first time investigators realized this means there are two different killers. Oh my god, little girls in Tacoma nineteen eighty six. Wow, this has obviously huge implications for the investigation going forward. For one thing, there are many suspects who were initially ruled out because they were in jail or had other alibis for when one of the murders was committed, but not the other. So they just automatic lead blanket assumed it was one killer, which I guess, like you can't like, that's almost like wishful thinking that there aren't monsters fucking everywhere. It's soishful thinking. But at the same time, it's Aukham's razor. The idea that there are two separate killers of the exact same looking age. Everything little girl like on a bike is crazy.
Yeah. So in twenty fifteen, Jennifer's father sadly dies without ever seeing his daughter's killer brought to justice. Around that same time, Jennifer's mother, Patty, starts volunteering in the cold case department and she becomes very close with Lindsay Wade. That same year, Jene retires and Lindsay takes over as Tacoma's lead cold case detective. Lindsay has followed every new development in DNA with rapt attention. She's like Paul Holes, you know. Yeah, And that year she hears about a new technique that led to the solving of a cold case in Phoenix. And it uses gene sequence that's passed through the father's line and genealogical databases and matches that sequence with likely last names. So this is like it's genealogical profiling, but it's not as specific as it like, you can't go through a family tree as deep, but you can go a little bit and find out the last names.
Okay.
So Lindsay gets in touch with the scientists at the forefront of this technique, a former rocket scientist turned genealogists named Jennifer Fitzpatrick. She sends her the DNA sample from the Jennifer Bastion case, and the testing reveals three possible last names that a person with that DNA might have. Isn't that fucking incredible?
Yeah, that's weird.
How many last names are there and you can go down to three like genealogy is amazing. The last names are Smith, Wholebrook, and Washburn. So Lindsay doesn't even bother with Smith because it's too common of a name to be useful. But she scours the case files. It's thousands and thousands.
Of pages for the two other names, because luckily they're kind of unique. There's no Wholebrook, but there is a Washburn somewhere in the case files. Lindsay actually finds him, not in Jennifer's case file, but in Michelle Welch's case file. After Michelle's murder, but before Jennifer's, a man named Robert Washburn had called in a tip saying he had seen someone who matched the composite sketch of Michelle's potential killer in Point Defiance Park, which is where Jennifer would later be abductive and killed. So he called this tip in in May of nineteen eighty six, three months before Jennifer died in that very park. Investigators, they didn't drop the ball on this. He had been interviewed in December of nineteen eighty six.
I think him calling in a tip probably want their guard down a little bit. But they also didn't have anything suspicious about him talkin with Yeah, but it's that thing we always talk about where the killers want to get involved in the.
Case and they it's almost like in retrospect, you look back and then it's like, oh, he was pointing to the future murder. I mean, it's just so gross and weird and sinister.
People also think that because he was pointing to the future, spot like he had planned it out and he wanted to connect those two murders and make people think they were connected, which he did. Yeah, you know, which means he planned it so far in advance. It's just chilling. She finds it interesting, this little piece of information, but it's not you know, it's no guarantee. The last names might not even be correct. So Robert Washburn's name is added to a very long list. Lindsay then takes on the daunting task of hand entering every other man mentioned in the Jennifer Bashan case file into a new database because it had never been digitized.
Wow.
Yeah, the process takes months, but once it's done. She can use that database to eliminate three hundred names from a list of twenty three hundred names based on DNA and incarceration data. It's not much, but it's a start. And from that list, Lindsay comes up with a shorter list of people to try to get.
DNA samples from. A small task force tracks these people down all over the country and requests sam.
So. In twenty eighteen, Lindsay makes the difficult decision to retire from the police Department and takes a job in the Attorney General's Office on its task force to end the state's rape kit backlog. And she said, it's a really hard decision. But she's thought to herself, you know, maybe the killer's name is in that backlog, right, and I'm helping so many women. Yeah, I can imagine being a hard decision. Over the past several years, she's been sending batchels of DNA to be tested and compared to the sample from Jennifer's bathing suit. A few weeks after she starts her new job, and this is so like Paul Holes with the Golden State killer, she gets a call that there's been a match and it's Robert Washburn, the man who called in the tip in the Michelle Welsh case months before Jennifer was even killed.
So if he hadn't.
Inserted himself into that case, there's no reason why he would have been found. Wow, he wasn't in his DNA was in the database. There was no fingerprints, there was nothing tying him to it at all.
It's crazy. He almost like he just pinpointed himself.
Yeah, And also like that's such good detective work that you looked in the other case file for that name of a tipster, Like why would you ever look at that again?
And like now it's like I hope they look every time. Yeah, because that is a thing they do.
Absolutely, and that's why there's good detectives like this.
Yeah.
He's fifty eight, he lives in Illinois. He has only one prior arrest for criminal trespass and vehicle prowling in nineteen eighty five before the murder. That's all. He had nothing after in twenty seventeen, investigators from the Task Force had knocked on his door and he had willingly given them a DNA sample, So that's how they got his DNA. In twenty eighteen, when Lindsay gets this news, which is also like, what are you thinking, Like, what's going on through these predators' minds when they're like you can't say no, I'm not giving you a DNA sample. Well, also back then they probably didn't know what it meant, right, It wasn't as like precise, right. Yeah. By twenty eighteen, when Lindsay gets this news, she and Patti Bastian have become very close and they had planned to celebrate Mother's Day together that year. But since Robert wasn't arrested yet, Lindsay couldn't say anything to the mother that the potential killer had been caught. She has to wait another couple of weeks to tell her, right, So later in May of twenty eighteen, Robert Washburn is arrested for the murder of Jennifer Bastian. Then only a month later, there's an arrest in the Michello Welsh case. Just a month later, they were you know, it's so wild. Through genealogical DNA, investigators have been able to narrow down the DNA sample from Michelle's body to one of two brothers who lived together in Tacoma at the time of the murder. The DNA match on file belonged to a cousin, but it was one of those genealogical database matches and the genealogist was able to use public records to lead to the brothers. And they don't know which brother it is. So after surveilling the brothers, investigators get a DNA sample from a discarded brown paper napkin from a fast food restaurant from one of the brothers. They get it in a different way from the other brother, but from this paper napkin they get a match. They arrest a sixty six year old man named Gary Hartman in June of twenty eighteen. He is a psychiatric nurse at a local hospital in Tacoma. I know you had a action to that.
That is not good. Yeah.
He had never been previously arrested, He was married, he took care of his daughter like and we actually had a few emails from murderinos who had worked with him in the past and thought he seemed perfectly normal. Wow. Yeah. So after Hartman's arrest, the Pierce County Prosecutor Mark Linquest says, quote, DNA technology is rapidly advancing. If you're a criminal who left DNA at a crime scene. You might as well turn yourself in now we will eventually catch you and quote must have felt good to say, yeah, yeah, comment for you.
Yeah.
Both men separately said they had been deep in the throes of alcohol and drug addiction when they murdered these little girls, which is like, shut the fuck up seriously. Robert Washburn pleads guilty, and in twenty twenty one he sentenced to twenty six years and six months. Lindsay Wade is there and says, quote, I don't think there was a dry eye in the courtroom, from the judge to one of the cameramen in the courtroom to people in the gallery. I remember Patty the mother saying, do you know how many birthdays we missed? Do you know how many Christmases we missed? Oh. Washburn gives a bare bones confession to grabbing Jennifer and strangling her, but not to any other aspects of the crime. He kind of just remains blank throughout the proceedings. Gary Hartman elects to have a bench trial, which he is aware will result in a guilty verdict, but he doesn't actually plead guilty, which is shitty because you're putting the victim's family through this whole trial, right, and you know you're guilt, Like you're not saying you're not. I don't know. It's it's confounding.
Yeah.
His Laurier claims at the time of the murder he was so out of it he didn't even remember doing it and only remembered after being arrested, But the prosecutor says that while he was being investigated, he had told a coworker quote thirty years ago he had done something terrible and he thought he had been discovered end quote. So it just wasn't fucking true.
He lived with it for thirty years.
Yeah, oh I forgot until I got arrested.
But also I was fine with it. Yeah, so like I didn't. I wasn't eaten alive by the guilt. I wasn't like I didn't was not compelled to confess or do anything about it.
Totally totally. Hartman has found guilty and is also sentenced to twenty six years and six months. Gary Hartman sobs throughout the entire sentencing, saying he's sorry, while Michelle's family gives statements then, like why did you put them through a fucking trial? Like you know what I mean?
Yeah, No, I think it's easier when people are like classic movie style psychopaths. Yeah, so then it's just like yeah, good, like you write it off. But then here's like, what do they mean? You're crying for who yourself?
Maybe I mean for.
Sure themselves, but it is like that idea. It's like you didn't hit and run a car. Yeah, it's a very different thing, totally, totally. Michelle's little sister, Nicole says, quote, Forgiveness is the only way to keep me from being infected by the continual pain and keep furthering it on. I do not wish any harm to come to him, because I would be the same spirit as him. Though our lives are linked together because of this tragedy, I do not want to be of the same mindset in harming others end quote, which is like, holy shit, it's very wise and ray that. Yeah. Yeah.
In twenty nineteen, between the two men's legal proceedings, Patty and Teresa work with Lindsay Wade to pass Jennifer and Michelle's Law in Washington State. This allows law enforcement to collect DNA samples from deceased sex offenders, which would have significantly called Lindsay's database when she was working on the cases. So it's just like, why do I have to file all this fucking paperwork to get this DNA sample that should already be there. Yeah, it also requires people convicted of indecent exposure to give a DNA sample. It's signed into law in May of twenty nineteen, and Patti Bastian and Jennifer's sister Teresa are there to see it happen. Patty says she feels a sense of relief and accomplishment of what she, Lindsay and lawmakers have gotten done in their home state, But she also has her eyes set on a federal law. And that is the story of the murders of Jennifer Bastian and Michelle Welch, the detectives who never gave up on finding their killers, and the technology that eventually caught up with the evidence.
Unbelievable, horrible, Yeah, and shocking, and like the idea that two little girls were killed that closely together and Tacoma is like, it must have been so horrified.
I was two different monsters.
Two different people.
Yeah, wow, chilling.
Thanks for giving a cold case a good a good ending.
That's very sad. Thank you. I was talking to Alejandra recently about like upcoming stories I could do, and I was like, I think they're a little sick of the unsold cold cases? Can we not? Can we not do that?
I mean that it's terrible because there are so many. Yeah, and it's frustrating when police agencies treat it like, oh well yeah, Like that is the part that does not drive me crazy. That it feels like could be changing a little bit in that people are It's like the cold case department is not this kind of afterthought anymore. It's like they're really working on stuff like that. Right, Yeah, for sure, Well, great job. It's another great concise, yet also kind of long, short episode.
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