The season 38 champions are on the podcast this week! Devyn Simone sits down with Tori Deal and Devin Walker (aka Dave & Dave) to discuss an incredible end to an incredible season. They get into everything from cold exposure therapy and mid workout tangrams to chocolate milk throw-up and the motto that got them through it all.

Catch new episodes The Challenge: Ride or Dies, Wednesdays at 8pm on MTV and we'll see you back here next week for a brand-new episode of MTV's Official Challenge Podcast.