Johnny Ayers has a front-row seat to the scam economy most of us never see. As founder and CEO of Socure — the identity verification platform behind billions of fraud checks a year — he's watched fraud evolve from stolen passwords to something much stranger: An influx of North Korean operatives holding remote U.S. tech jobs under fake identities, deepfakes convincing enough to fool a hiring manager on video, and AI models that recently broke out of a secured testing environment to launch a cyberattack on their own. 

On this episode of Mostly Human, Laurie sits down with Johnny to go behind the "locked doors" of the fraud-fighting world. Laurie even brings her own case studies — the network of fake "Laurie" profiles running scams, and a conversation with a teenage hacker who tried to scam her. It's a conversation about what happens to trust on the internet when anyone and anything can be faked and what any of us can do — right now — to protect ourselves from these growing threats. 

If you have thoughts or questions for Laurie about this episode or anything Mostly Human, email us at hello@mostlyhuman.com

Johnny Ayers has a front-row seat to the scam economy most of us never see. As founder and CEO of Socure &mdash; the identity verification platform behind billions of fraud checks a year &mdash; he's watched fraud evolve from stolen passwords to something much stranger: An influx of North Korean operatives holding remote U.S. tech jobs under fake identities, deepfakes convincing enough to fool a hiring manager on video, and AI models that recently broke out of a secured testing environment to launch a cyberattack on their own.&nbsp;
On this episode of Mostly Human, Laurie sits down with Johnny to go behind the "locked doors" of the fraud-fighting world. Laurie even brings her own case studies &mdash; the network of fake "Laurie" profiles running scams, and a conversation with a teenage hacker who tried to scam her. It's a conversation about what happens to trust on the internet when anyone and anything can be faked and what any of us can do &mdash; right now &mdash; to protect ourselves from these growing threats.&nbsp;
If you have thoughts or questions for Laurie about this episode or anything Mostly Human, email us at hello@mostlyhuman.com

Mostly Human is a weekly podcast that explores technology through the most important lens: the human one. Hosted by award-winning tech journalist Laurie Segall, the immersive interview and investigative show tackles some of the defining questions of our time with headline-making tech titans and the people you don't know yet, but should. Mostly Human will leave you with a sense of agency over fear, and a clearer view of how tech can actually work for you.

Mostly Human is a weekly podcast that explores technology through the most important lens: the human one. Hosted by award-winning tech journalist Laurie Segall, the immersive interview and investigative show tackles some of the defining questions of our time with headline-making tech titans and the people you don't know yet, but should. Mostly Human will leave you with a sense of agency over fear, and a clearer view of how tech can actually work for you.

Mostly Human with Laurie Segall

Mostly Human is a weekly podcast that explores technology through the most important lens: the human one. Hosted by award-winning tech journalist Laurie Segall, the immersive interview and investigative show tackles some of the defining questions of our time with headline-making tech titans and the people you don't know yet, but should. Mostly Human will leave you with a sense of agency over fear, and a clearer view of how tech can actually work for you.

 

Mostly Human is a weekly podcast that explores technology through the most important lens: the human one. Hosted by award-winning tech journalist Laurie Segall, the immersive interview and investigative show tackles some of the defining questions of our time with headline-making tech titans and the people you don't know yet, but should. Mostly Human will leave you with a sense of agency over fear, and a clearer view of how tech can actually work for you.
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Thanks to AI, Fraud Has Never Been Easier

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