Great to have you with us here on mornings with Tom and Toby. Michael. Seems like we've got you here today. Is it true? Is there a Michael Redlick appearance on mornings with Tom and Toby? Hi, Michael. How are you this morning? Welcome to Monday.

Great to have you with us here on mornings with Tom and Toby. Michael. Seems like we've got you here today. Is it true? Is there a Michael Redlick appearance on mornings with Tom and Toby? Hi, Michael. How are you this morning? Welcome to Monday.

Well, I'm. Well, look at me. I'm all set. I'm at. I'm in my office at Moody Bible Institute. Uh, I'm, uh, board meetings, board of trustees today.

Well, I'm. Well, look at me. I'm all set. I'm at. I'm in my office at Moody Bible Institute. Uh, I'm, uh, board meetings, board of trustees today.

Oh.

Oh.

How fun. Gosh, I wish I was you today.

How fun. Gosh, I wish I was you today.

Yeah. You're never bored in a board meeting?

Yeah. You're never bored in a board meeting?

Absolutely not. I always think that they just spell them wrong b o r e d if I remember correctly.

Absolutely not. I always think that they just spell them wrong b o r e d if I remember correctly.

Hey, how was NRB for you? How'd that wrap up?

Hey, how was NRB for you? How'd that wrap up?

It was great. We had a wonderful time. A recorded two hours of open line with, uh, listeners asking or people present in the room, audience asking the questions. And also, I was, uh, invited, and I appreciated the invitation to speak for a special event for Chosen People Ministries called Stop the Hate About anti-Semitism and what Christians can do and understand and do about it.

It was great. We had a wonderful time. A recorded two hours of open line with, uh, listeners asking or people present in the room, audience asking the questions. And also, I was, uh, invited, and I appreciated the invitation to speak for a special event for Chosen People Ministries called Stop the Hate About anti-Semitism and what Christians can do and understand and do about it.

Okay. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah.

That's fantastic. Yeah. You would be the perfect speaker. So thank you just so much for being here. Hey, if you've got a question for Michael, you can call us or text us at 423629 8900. And we do have a question from Percy.

That's fantastic. Yeah. You would be the perfect speaker. So thank you just so much for being here. Hey, if you've got a question for Michael, you can call us or text us at 423629 8900. And we do have a question from Percy.

So Percy wants to know how did clean and unclean animals come about in the Old Testament? Maybe the criteria for that.

So Percy wants to know how did clean and unclean animals come about in the Old Testament? Maybe the criteria for that.

The first mention of those are in the story of Noah, when he has to bring clean animals, more clean animals, seven, uh, of each clean animal as opposed to two. So there's a distinction made between clean and unclean animals, likely what that refers to is animals that are for sacrifice as opposed to not for sacrifice, so that the clean animals were understood as sacrificial animals. How did no one know which ones were acceptable for sacrifice? Don't know. That's just never recorded in scripture. But likely he had unscriptural revelation to guide him. Do what that means. Unscriptural revelation.

The first mention of those are in the story of Noah, when he has to bring clean animals, more clean animals, seven, uh, of each clean animal as opposed to two. So there's a distinction made between clean and unclean animals, likely what that refers to is animals that are for sacrifice as opposed to not for sacrifice, so that the clean animals were understood as sacrificial animals. How did no one know which ones were acceptable for sacrifice? Don't know. That's just never recorded in scripture. But likely he had unscriptural revelation to guide him. Do what that means. Unscriptural revelation.

God told people from God.

God told people from God.

Yeah. What did you say to me?

Yeah. What did you say to me?

I just said directly from God.

I just said directly from God.

Yeah, directly from God. Didn't go into the Bible. Exactly. Uh, and, uh, then what we know is, in the Law of Moses, a distinction is made between clean and unclean animals, referring to animals that can be eaten as opposed to in Leviticus 11, uh, as opposed to those that can be eaten by others, but not by Israelites. And the idea was to keep Israel separate or holy. So I think it was spiritual discipline. A lot of people think kosher laws has something to do with health. It seems to me that the kosher laws, as we say in Hebrew, kashrut, has more to do with a spiritual discipline to teach Israel to distinguish between animals that they're permitted to eat, and not so as they go into the land of Canaan, and they're going to conquer it, that they don't become, that they're able to understand that they are to be a separate people, to be different from those that are there, and to distinguish themselves from the rest of the nations.

Yeah, directly from God. Didn't go into the Bible. Exactly. Uh, and, uh, then what we know is, in the Law of Moses, a distinction is made between clean and unclean animals, referring to animals that can be eaten as opposed to in Leviticus 11, uh, as opposed to those that can be eaten by others, but not by Israelites. And the idea was to keep Israel separate or holy. So I think it was spiritual discipline. A lot of people think kosher laws has something to do with health. It seems to me that the kosher laws, as we say in Hebrew, kashrut, has more to do with a spiritual discipline to teach Israel to distinguish between animals that they're permitted to eat, and not so as they go into the land of Canaan, and they're going to conquer it, that they don't become, that they're able to understand that they are to be a separate people, to be different from those that are there, and to distinguish themselves from the rest of the nations.

Okay. So that is really interesting because I always heard that it was also a healthy, healthier way to eat that. If you don't eat certain scavenger type animals and things like that.

Okay. So that is really interesting because I always heard that it was also a healthy, healthier way to eat that. If you don't eat certain scavenger type animals and things like that.

It's the Hebrew national hot dog theory. You know, we answer to a higher authority, but that was the commercials they had. But as best we can tell from reading Leviticus, Leviticus 11. Uh, you know, obviously there are some animals that were more likely to give you an illness that that you shouldn't eat. But if you look at the fish, for example, uh, carp is considered a kosher fish. It has. And it's you know, when I mentioned that to a teacher I had in college, he said, carp is a is a garbage fish. It's just a terrible fish. And but it's kosher. And and he told me the way that he was raised how to cook a carp. Uh, what you do is you nail it to a two by four, you stick it in an oven until it's completely black. Uh, and as is the two by four, you take the carp off the two by four and eat the two by four.

It's the Hebrew national hot dog theory. You know, we answer to a higher authority, but that was the commercials they had. But as best we can tell from reading Leviticus, Leviticus 11. Uh, you know, obviously there are some animals that were more likely to give you an illness that that you shouldn't eat. But if you look at the fish, for example, uh, carp is considered a kosher fish. It has. And it's you know, when I mentioned that to a teacher I had in college, he said, carp is a is a garbage fish. It's just a terrible fish. And but it's kosher. And and he told me the way that he was raised how to cook a carp. Uh, what you do is you nail it to a two by four, you stick it in an oven until it's completely black. Uh, and as is the two by four, you take the carp off the two by four and eat the two by four.

So.

So.

But a carp is considered a clean fish.

But a carp is considered a clean fish.

So Interesting. Okay.

So Interesting. Okay.

Yeah. So as you were talking about this, the difference between clean and unclean, kind of holy and separated unto the Lord. As followers of Christ, we're supposed to be kind of like that as well. Not exactly supposed to be modeling culture the way culture is. We're supposed to be separate from them, living differently so that they can look at our lives and say, wow, there's something different about them, and we can truly look to the Lord and say, this is why.

Yeah. So as you were talking about this, the difference between clean and unclean, kind of holy and separated unto the Lord. As followers of Christ, we're supposed to be kind of like that as well. Not exactly supposed to be modeling culture the way culture is. We're supposed to be separate from them, living differently so that they can look at our lives and say, wow, there's something different about them, and we can truly look to the Lord and say, this is why.

Yeah. And here's one of the things a lot of people want us to say. You know, they always ask me, are we under the law of Moses or are we not? And my answer is yes and no. The no part is that I don't think we're. You don't have to give up bacon, Tom. Thank you. Jesus. Yeah. There we go. Uh, that you don't have to necessarily, uh, follow the the direct laws. However, there's a wisdom principle. This is the yes part. A wisdom principle that governs every commandment in in the Torah. And if we can understand the wisdom principle that governs it, that's behind it, that underlies it and live by, that will be successful at obeying God's Word. And you're right that the underlying principle of the laws of kosher is to be distinctive and different. Not to be obnoxious or weird, but distinctively different in our holiness, because that that verse at the end of Leviticus 11 is repeated over and over, uh, in first Peter, uh, where it says, be holy for the first chapter of uh, first Peter chapter one, be holy even as I am holy. That has to do with kosher laws. But the principle abides of being different and distinctive, not being weird. I just want to be really clear. A lot of, uh, Christians I've met think that it means I should just act really weird. But no, that's not what it means.

Yeah. And here's one of the things a lot of people want us to say. You know, they always ask me, are we under the law of Moses or are we not? And my answer is yes and no. The no part is that I don't think we're. You don't have to give up bacon, Tom. Thank you. Jesus. Yeah. There we go. Uh, that you don't have to necessarily, uh, follow the the direct laws. However, there's a wisdom principle. This is the yes part. A wisdom principle that governs every commandment in in the Torah. And if we can understand the wisdom principle that governs it, that's behind it, that underlies it and live by, that will be successful at obeying God's Word. And you're right that the underlying principle of the laws of kosher is to be distinctive and different. Not to be obnoxious or weird, but distinctively different in our holiness, because that that verse at the end of Leviticus 11 is repeated over and over, uh, in first Peter, uh, where it says, be holy for the first chapter of uh, first Peter chapter one, be holy even as I am holy. That has to do with kosher laws. But the principle abides of being different and distinctive, not being weird. I just want to be really clear. A lot of, uh, Christians I've met think that it means I should just act really weird. But no, that's not what it means.

No. That's good.

No. That's good.

No comment on who those people were. All right. Okay, so we've got another question.

No comment on who those people were. All right. Okay, so we've got another question.

Don't you think, by the way, I just if we are kind to people, no matter how we're feeling, if we are gracious, uh, if we are sacrificial in our dealings with others, if we are loving, gentle, patient and exhibit the fruits of the spirit, don't you think that would make us different than.

Don't you think, by the way, I just if we are kind to people, no matter how we're feeling, if we are gracious, uh, if we are sacrificial in our dealings with others, if we are loving, gentle, patient and exhibit the fruits of the spirit, don't you think that would make us different than.

Yes it would. Oh my goodness, if we could just do that.

Yes it would. Oh my goodness, if we could just do that.

Yeah. So that's what I mean by being different, not by being weird.

Yeah. So that's what I mean by being different, not by being weird.

Yeah, I love it. All right. So Michael, here's another question that came in. It's about an event that happened this past weekend. A friend wants to know that about gather 25, which happened this past weekend. Wants to know was it biblical? Not biblical. There are a lot of Baptist preachers and scholars who criticized it. Are you familiar with gather 25?

Yeah, I love it. All right. So Michael, here's another question that came in. It's about an event that happened this past weekend. A friend wants to know that about gather 25, which happened this past weekend. Wants to know was it biblical? Not biblical. There are a lot of Baptist preachers and scholars who criticized it. Are you familiar with gather 25?

Let me just say, don't know anything about it.

Let me just say, don't know anything about it.

Okay, so gather 25. We covered it a little bit, announced it. Just to give you a quick update. It was a worldwide gathering of Christians to come together. No one told me to worship, to pray, to preach, and they were hosting parties for people to gather together and watch it. Where was it? Yeah, mostly Americans, but there were people from other. Mostly.

Okay, so gather 25. We covered it a little bit, announced it. Just to give you a quick update. It was a worldwide gathering of Christians to come together. No one told me to worship, to pray, to preach, and they were hosting parties for people to gather together and watch it. Where was it? Yeah, mostly Americans, but there were people from other. Mostly.

What city was it in?

What city was it in?

It was. I think it was all over. It was all.

It was. I think it was all over. It was all.

Over the world. It was mainly online. It was online. Consider where it was at.

Over the world. It was mainly online. It was online. Consider where it was at.

Yeah, yeah, I.

Yeah, yeah, I.

Was too busy going to NB and working.

Was too busy going to NB and working.

To know about it. Well, it was multi-denominational, so that may have been some of the issues that the Baptist preachers had with some of the speakers. Yeah.

To know about it. Well, it was multi-denominational, so that may have been some of the issues that the Baptist preachers had with some of the speakers. Yeah.

So yeah, I don't know. I don't want to comment. I don't know anything about it. Yeah. Okay.

So yeah, I don't know. I don't want to comment. I don't know anything about it. Yeah. Okay.

Okay, I get that. Thank you so much, Michael.

Okay, I get that. Thank you so much, Michael.

Keep going.

Keep going.

It's one of the things I appreciate about you. If you know something or you want to share something, you do. And if you're thinking, I don't know anything about that, you don't venture in. And I love that about you.

It's one of the things I appreciate about you. If you know something or you want to share something, you do. And if you're thinking, I don't know anything about that, you don't venture in. And I love that about you.

It's a little embarrassing that there's a worldwide celebration, and I know nothing about it, but, hey, that's me.

It's a little embarrassing that there's a worldwide celebration, and I know nothing about it, but, hey, that's me.

I'm hoping.

I'm hoping.

You know, when that worldwide celebration comes and Jesus returns, that I know something about it. I don't want that to happen without my knowledge.

You know, when that worldwide celebration comes and Jesus returns, that I know something about it. I don't want that to happen without my knowledge.

Right? Yeah.

Right? Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. All right, so we have a question that kind of came about, Michael. And it's it's how do I say this? There's a new television series out called House of David. Okay.

Yeah, absolutely. All right, so we have a question that kind of came about, Michael. And it's it's how do I say this? There's a new television series out called House of David. Okay.

I'm not seeing it.

I'm not seeing it.

All right. And so but.

All right. And so but.

Within it, it.

Within it, it.

Advertised though that I knew about. Okay. Yeah.

Advertised though that I knew about. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. But you might know kind of the premise. It shows David as an outcast of the family. And it kind of lays out some reasons possibly. Why? Because again, it is not completely textual in its nature. It's using the Bible as a basis, but they are using creative license. And we're just wondering in our conversation back and forth, why was David the outcast of the family? His father said, ah, yeah, there is one more son, by the way. Why is that?

Yeah. But you might know kind of the premise. It shows David as an outcast of the family. And it kind of lays out some reasons possibly. Why? Because again, it is not completely textual in its nature. It's using the Bible as a basis, but they are using creative license. And we're just wondering in our conversation back and forth, why was David the outcast of the family? His father said, ah, yeah, there is one more son, by the way. Why is that?

I think I don't know what they say in this TV series, right? My opinion is he wasn't an outcast. He was the youngest and the older brothers. Look at Joseph and his brothers when Joseph was the youngest. How he was favored and resented because of that. Uh, of course, Benjamin came along afterwards. Uh, but on the other hand, two uh, the the the younger brother, uh, is, I think, just picked on also, he had to do the work that they didn't. They were already old enough to serve in the military. He had to stay back with the sheep. Uh, he had to be the errand boy for dad. That just happens because he was the youngest. I don't think it was because he was not well liked. Well loved. And you could even see how his older brothers talked to him. Like you're such an annoying little brother.

I think I don't know what they say in this TV series, right? My opinion is he wasn't an outcast. He was the youngest and the older brothers. Look at Joseph and his brothers when Joseph was the youngest. How he was favored and resented because of that. Uh, of course, Benjamin came along afterwards. Uh, but on the other hand, two uh, the the the younger brother, uh, is, I think, just picked on also, he had to do the work that they didn't. They were already old enough to serve in the military. He had to stay back with the sheep. Uh, he had to be the errand boy for dad. That just happens because he was the youngest. I don't think it was because he was not well liked. Well loved. And you could even see how his older brothers talked to him. Like you're such an annoying little brother.

Yeah. So. Yeah.

Yeah. So. Yeah.

Okay. Alright, we'll come back to it. If. Do you plan to watch part of House of David?

Okay. Alright, we'll come back to it. If. Do you plan to watch part of House of David?

Yeah, probably when I have a little bit more time. Okay. Uh, over. Over summer break.

Yeah, probably when I have a little bit more time. Okay. Uh, over. Over summer break.

Doctor Michael Riedel is our guest, as he is every single Monday for open line chat.

Doctor Michael Riedel is our guest, as he is every single Monday for open line chat.

Hey, thank you guys for texting in your questions and looks like somebody is calling as well. We will hope to get to you. But right now there's a question from Beverly, Doctor Adesnik. It's about chosen versus predestined in Ephesians one four and five.

Hey, thank you guys for texting in your questions and looks like somebody is calling as well. We will hope to get to you. But right now there's a question from Beverly, Doctor Adesnik. It's about chosen versus predestined in Ephesians one four and five.

So chosen versus predestined. Uh, well, I think they are corollary. They're not the same thing. It says in Ephesians one four, he chose us. That's election. Uh, in him before the foundation of the world. So God chose who would be saved before he laid the first brick in the world. You know, that's what it's saying. Uh, so that has to do with election. Uh, and then it says he predestined us to be adopted. Uh, he made before time our a choice to predestined us to become followers of Jesus and be adopted through Jesus the Messiah for himself, all in order to praise his glorious grace, to the praise of his glorious grace. That we would be trophies of his grace is literally what that's talking about. So a lot of people say, how can that be? Doesn't that take away our free will or our human responsibility to believe? So they want to say these things that God shows us or predestined us based on whether he knew we would believe or not? I don't think that's true. Uh, I believe that God, in his sovereign election chose us and predestined us for glory. And that's just how it is. On the other hand, the Bible keeps telling us to believe. It orders us, uh, to take our human responsibility and believe. How can both those things be true? How do you reconcile those, while Spurgeon said, I never try and reconcile friends. And so, uh, he also talked about how when you entered the room of salvation, so to speak, over the door it said, whosoever will may come. Then you walk through it, and then you look back over the door on the inside and it says, chosen before the foundation of the world. In other words, we can be believe in human responsibility and divine sovereignty and trust God for it. Uh, I don't I don't believe for a second I can explain. God, uh, maybe Toby can, but.

So chosen versus predestined. Uh, well, I think they are corollary. They're not the same thing. It says in Ephesians one four, he chose us. That's election. Uh, in him before the foundation of the world. So God chose who would be saved before he laid the first brick in the world. You know, that's what it's saying. Uh, so that has to do with election. Uh, and then it says he predestined us to be adopted. Uh, he made before time our a choice to predestined us to become followers of Jesus and be adopted through Jesus the Messiah for himself, all in order to praise his glorious grace, to the praise of his glorious grace. That we would be trophies of his grace is literally what that's talking about. So a lot of people say, how can that be? Doesn't that take away our free will or our human responsibility to believe? So they want to say these things that God shows us or predestined us based on whether he knew we would believe or not? I don't think that's true. Uh, I believe that God, in his sovereign election chose us and predestined us for glory. And that's just how it is. On the other hand, the Bible keeps telling us to believe. It orders us, uh, to take our human responsibility and believe. How can both those things be true? How do you reconcile those, while Spurgeon said, I never try and reconcile friends. And so, uh, he also talked about how when you entered the room of salvation, so to speak, over the door it said, whosoever will may come. Then you walk through it, and then you look back over the door on the inside and it says, chosen before the foundation of the world. In other words, we can be believe in human responsibility and divine sovereignty and trust God for it. Uh, I don't I don't believe for a second I can explain. God, uh, maybe Toby can, but.

Uh, I'll go ahead and give it a give it a go.

Uh, I'll go ahead and give it a give it a go.

Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Toby Upton, ladies and gentlemen, here we go.

Toby Upton, ladies and gentlemen, here we go.

I'm gonna.

I'm gonna.

I think that's one of those antinomies that we have in Scripture and apparent contradiction. Theologians. Try and solve it. I'm happily a not a theologian. I am just a Bible student. And so I live with both.

I think that's one of those antinomies that we have in Scripture and apparent contradiction. Theologians. Try and solve it. I'm happily a not a theologian. I am just a Bible student. And so I live with both.

Wait a minute. How are you not a theologian?

Wait a minute. How are you not a theologian?

I'm just a Bible student.

I'm just a Bible student.

Okay, that's a whole nother.

Okay, that's a whole nother.

Okay, absolutely. Speaking of whole.

Okay, absolutely. Speaking of whole.

Nother, we have a call coming in. Hi. Good morning. Uh, what's your name? And what's your question for Doctor Michael Radonich?

Nother, we have a call coming in. Hi. Good morning. Uh, what's your name? And what's your question for Doctor Michael Radonich?

Yeah, thank you very much. I'm David Traywick, and I'm just wondering, after the thousand year reign, what happens then? I don't hear it.

Yeah, thank you very much. I'm David Traywick, and I'm just wondering, after the thousand year reign, what happens then? I don't hear it.

Okay. His question was, is David and his question about the thousand year reign? What happens then.

Okay. His question was, is David and his question about the thousand year reign? What happens then.

After the thousand year reign? You read revelation 20. At the end of it, there's going to be one last revolt. Satan will be released from the abyss. Uh, and there will be people who have been born in the millennium. They will have needed to trust in Jesus. Some will, some won't. Those who don't will will become part of that revolt by Satan. It's the final war of Gog and Magog. God defeats them and then establishes the new creation, the new heavens and the new earth. Not sitting on a cloud, holding a harp and playing the harp in a disembodied form, we will have resurrected bodies living on a in a physical new creation with a literal New Jerusalem, and we will spend eternity. And it says in revelation 22, for his servants will serve him. I don't know what we'll do, but we will be serving the king forever.

After the thousand year reign? You read revelation 20. At the end of it, there's going to be one last revolt. Satan will be released from the abyss. Uh, and there will be people who have been born in the millennium. They will have needed to trust in Jesus. Some will, some won't. Those who don't will will become part of that revolt by Satan. It's the final war of Gog and Magog. God defeats them and then establishes the new creation, the new heavens and the new earth. Not sitting on a cloud, holding a harp and playing the harp in a disembodied form, we will have resurrected bodies living on a in a physical new creation with a literal New Jerusalem, and we will spend eternity. And it says in revelation 22, for his servants will serve him. I don't know what we'll do, but we will be serving the king forever.

It's so interesting that 1000 year reign is it's really we're still on the Earth, just in a different dimension of the Earth.

It's so interesting that 1000 year reign is it's really we're still on the Earth, just in a different dimension of the Earth.

No, it's this. It's this earth with with with the Lord Jesus reigning from Jerusalem.

No, it's this. It's this earth with with with the Lord Jesus reigning from Jerusalem.

Huh?

Huh?

Okay, so as I was just reading through, there are a couple of different translations and I seem to recall saying that, um, Satan will be released for a time. Uh, my NIV doesn't say. It just says he'll be released. And for a time would it be like, you know, times, times and time and a half. Kind of like getting us.

Okay, so as I was just reading through, there are a couple of different translations and I seem to recall saying that, um, Satan will be released for a time. Uh, my NIV doesn't say. It just says he'll be released. And for a time would it be like, you know, times, times and time and a half. Kind of like getting us.

Uh, it's. It says when the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison. It doesn't say for a time.

Uh, it's. It says when the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison. It doesn't say for a time.

Okay, so so.

Okay, so so.

We don't know how long that period of time actually is, but.

We don't know how long that period of time actually is, but.

I think it's fairly short. There's one last revolt and the Lord deals.

I think it's fairly short. There's one last revolt and the Lord deals.

With it okay. Mhm. Mhm. Okay.

With it okay. Mhm. Mhm. Okay.

And uh I think it's so interesting that there will be people who don't become believers even though Satan is bound.

And uh I think it's so interesting that there will be people who don't become believers even though Satan is bound.

Uh, people are still we.

Uh, people are still we.

Want to say the devil made me not believe. Well, no, people won't believe just because of their own flesh.

Want to say the devil made me not believe. Well, no, people won't believe just because of their own flesh.

Mm.

Mm.

Okay. And there will be people that are born in that season of time that will have to come to faith in Christ. Is that one of the reasons that he is the enemy is released at that time?

Okay. And there will be people that are born in that season of time that will have to come to faith in Christ. Is that one of the reasons that he is the enemy is released at that time?

Just think about it. When the Lord returns to deliver Israel, when Jerusalem is surrounded, he delivers Israel. They are not glorified. They enter the kingdom. Those who you know, all Israel being saved, they enter the kingdom in the glorified state. Also, it says in Matthew 25 that the Lord will judge the nations as he judges sheep and goats, the nations, the Gentiles, and there will be Gentiles who are like sheep. And they will have demonstrated that they cared for the brethren, the Jewish people, during the tribulation. And they, uh, they express their faith that way. They'll enter the kingdom as well, and they will marry, and they will have children in their glorified state. And so even though these initial people entering the kingdom are all believers, there will be others who are not believers when they're in the kingdom, because they will marry and have children.

Just think about it. When the Lord returns to deliver Israel, when Jerusalem is surrounded, he delivers Israel. They are not glorified. They enter the kingdom. Those who you know, all Israel being saved, they enter the kingdom in the glorified state. Also, it says in Matthew 25 that the Lord will judge the nations as he judges sheep and goats, the nations, the Gentiles, and there will be Gentiles who are like sheep. And they will have demonstrated that they cared for the brethren, the Jewish people, during the tribulation. And they, uh, they express their faith that way. They'll enter the kingdom as well, and they will marry, and they will have children in their glorified state. And so even though these initial people entering the kingdom are all believers, there will be others who are not believers when they're in the kingdom, because they will marry and have children.

But we will all be there, all of us. Okay. Yeah, they're giving us the wrap up, okay?

But we will all be there, all of us. Okay. Yeah, they're giving us the wrap up, okay?

They'll be glorified and glorified together.

They'll be glorified and glorified together.

Okay. Wow. We're gonna be learning a lot. We'll be Bible students along with Doctor Michael right now. And again, if you've got a question for Michael, go ahead and share it with us. We will ask him next time on mornings with Tom and Toby.

Okay. Wow. We're gonna be learning a lot. We'll be Bible students along with Doctor Michael right now. And again, if you've got a question for Michael, go ahead and share it with us. We will ask him next time on mornings with Tom and Toby.