Nancy Fitzgerald - Biblical Worldview Question of the Week

Published Apr 22, 2025, 12:17 PM
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Well, we did let you know a couple of minutes ago that we were going to be checking in for our biblical worldview question of the week with Nancy Fitzgerald of Anchors Away, Worldview Ministries. Anchors aweigh.org. That's the place you need to go. Get yourself educated. Because man, as we've been sharing this morning, um, we need it. We need a right Christian worldview because it is missing. It is the one thing that is missing Kelly, isn't it?

It is absolutely missing. And, you know, if you're a little bit confused about what worldview even is versus biblical worldview, we're going to be touching on that this morning. In fact, we're going to be having Nancy define what those are. So without further ado, Nancy Fitzgerald from Anchors Away. Good morning.

Good. Good morning to you both. Well, what a what what this topic. And what you've been talking about this morning is. Wow. Um, it is serious stuff.

Well, Kelly, I was looking at, uh, you know, this question when when it came over yesterday and I was like, oh, boy, this is going to be this is going to be a fun one. So what do we got on tap?

Well, if Jesus wept for Israel and their future destruction because of their unbelief. Nancy, does he weep today for Christian teachers, leaders, and preachers in America? Because, wow, some of the stuff we've seen over the years in the news media, we got to ask.

Yeah. And and the question is, he was weeping. Not for himself. He was weeping because he knew the destruction that was pending. You know, uh, a 40 years after after his life on Earth. Um, there there was huge destruction. It was it was horrible. What was happening in Israel was leveled, or in Jerusalem it was leveled. And today you see weeping. Let me answer that real quickly. Yes, he's weeping because he sees the destruction of the church, and he knows what that means. He knows judgment is coming and he weeps for that. He weeps for that. So I think one way to begin to unpack this question, uh, Kelly, is the idea of asking this question, who are the Christian leaders and preachers in America today? And not by name necessarily, but God from God's perspective. Who are they? What does he see? And it's just the question you were asking a moment ago. Uh, Steve, are they teaching and preaching what they know to be true from the Bible, or are they dipping into the culture for their for for their foundation of truth? Uh, are they humble with a heart that reaches out to the least of these? Or do they tout their numbers of the of the people that were sitting in their pews? And do they follow the mandate from God to raise up the younger generation by preparing them to live out their faith in Jesus through the work of the Holy Spirit, but by their witness and willingness to give the reason for the hope that they have. They will make a change in culture. Or do they ignore them? In our today's teachers and pastors, preparing those under them to go into the world and preach the parents, the grandparents? Well, we'll see in a minute. And are they teaching what it means to love God with all your heart, mind and soul as they love and serve others. And as I've always said, you know you can't love and serve somebody you don't know. And I think we've got an issue here in the churches today. I want to share today a new study from Barna, George Barna, who's now working through the Cultural Resource Center in Arizona University, and talk a little bit about his findings today that answer this question and feed into what you all have been talking about. And and these, by the way, this study came out in 2025. There's no study like it because it's so current. And he found that 37% of Christian pastors in the United States have a biblical worldview, demonstrating that the spiritual awakening is desperately Needed in our pulpits and in our pews. 37% of Christian pastors. That's it. The rest do not have a biblical foundation from which they're living and speaking. And thus we have the chaos in the younger generation and also with the parents. But today we're going to be talking about the younger generation.

Well, that number, that 37%. Nancy, when when this all came over and I was reading through and just kind of skimming through the subject matter and looking at what this was going to be that made this conversation up. 37 I was I was just taken aback. I'm saying to myself, how can less than 40% of those in the pulpit believe that that is a desperate need in our pulpit? You know, worldview is your area of expertise, biblical worldview that you've written the entire curriculum around? Anchors Aweigh. So help us understand this because there's some implications here of this Barna study about defining those terms. There is a difference between worldview and biblical worldview because as a matter of fact, there are many different worldviews, but the biblical one is the one that counts.

Well, there are thousands of worldview. And, you know, just anybody can make up a worldview, which means anybody can make up the foundation of what they believe. Um, and that's essentially you can water down clearly what God says and going to multiple different ways. Thus we have thousands of cults. Thus, we have other religions of people who have picked and choose. That's called syncretism. And and that's what we have. But understanding that a worldview, not necessarily a biblical worldview. We'll get to that in a minute. But a worldview is the foundation for which we live. True or false? But that determines how we interact, how we think, how we love, how we learn, how we live our lives is based on the foundations of what we see to be truth, which is made up of life experiences and what we read, what we see, what the conversations we have all enter in to our foundation from which we live. In a biblical worldview, is a comprehensive framework for understanding that our reality. What is true and what is not true? True. What is right and what is wrong? Through the scriptures. Through the Bible. It's the belief that the Bible answers life's fundamental questions about our origin. From where did we come? Well, the Bible has answers. What's my purpose? The Bible tells us what is true and what is false, right and wrong. The Bible is very clear on that. In what's our destiny for those who believe and those who don't believe And and the biblical worldview represents God as the creator and sustainer of all things. Humanity is created in God's image, meaning we need to understand. We matter to God. We're special to God. God has a purpose for us, and he's made us to have a relationship with him. There's a soul in us where we can actually communicate through the Holy Spirit with God through our soul. Not necessarily with words or whatever, but just when we get in the Scripture, God will teach us through the spirit and guide us. Um, I'm honestly, all of us have fallen into sin. And it started with Adam and Eve. But God promised from the very beginning in Genesis that he would send a messiah. He would send Jesus Christ as solution to to the world's problem, which is sin. And the penalty of sin is death. He said, I'm going to send my son to die and pay the price of sin so that you might be free. The Scripture calls the believers to view everything through the lens of God's truth, allowing it to shape our thoughts, our actions and decisions in every area of life. I think to think of a biblical worldview. It's the lens through which we view all of life. The lens of Christ. How would Christ do this? How would Christ see it to the point where it becomes a part of us, so we can live life with confidence in knowing that when life ends on this earth, heaven awaits a place of perfect peace, perfect harmony. No more sickness and death. That's what awaits for all who believe. And for those who don't believe will never experience that peace and joy that God wants us to have. Thus God wept And I just have to share this with you today. I was shocked and because I am involved in these studies to some degree with groups of people that are trying to impact Christian churches and Christian colleges, it's important to see in the latest study, about of a thousand Christian pastors found that slightly more than one third, which is 37% of U.S. pastors, hold to a biblical worldview. Now they are pastors who identify as being Christian, but yet only 37% of them speak and teach and live according to the the biblical worldview I was just talking about. The majority 62% of pastors, uh, represent believe, live by, teach by a worldview known as syncretism, which is they take a little bit out of the Bible that they find appealing. But those things that would keep people from sitting in the pews, they reject and they won't do it and they'll they'll preach it social gospel so people can feel good about themselves when they leave the church, making sure they'll come back. But this is the this is the thing. This study released in mid-April 2025. There we go. Right now, showed 41% of senior pastors, 41% of senior pastors hold to a biblical worldview, 28%, almost half that, uh, have a worldview that are that are associate pastors. Furthermore, only 13% of teaching pastors Embrace a biblical worldview and check this out. 12. 12% of children and youth pastors have a biblical worldview. We'll teach these kids about the Bible. Teach them Scripture. Teach them how to live it out. We've got 13%. And keep in mind, and this is the thing, Kelly and Steve. And this is where we really need to be praying. Kelly. Like you were saying about these are people preparing our kids. Highest anxiety ever in the youth in youth culture, highest suicide rates ever today in youth culture. Nobody but but 12% of these youth pastors are really reaching out with the answers that are found only in Christ. For a life to be led in the midst of chaos to the full. And that's the Christian worldview, and it's not being taught.

Yeah, I was going to say that it was concerning, but I want to back up and say it's terrifying that according to the Barna research, that there is not 100% of pastors who were surveyed that would say they have a biblical worldview. So talk, Nancy, about how this has translated over time in regard to biblical worldview among those whom they shepherd. What does that look like percentage wise?

Well, percentage wise, Kelly a generous 2% to two. That's 98 out of 100 do not have a solid Christian foundation. 2% of 18 to 29 year olds possess a biblical worldview. It's not their fault. It's not their fault. Roughly 80% of high school students who enter college as professing Christians. So they leave 80% of those few who enter college identifying as Christians will leave, uh, at the end of college with little or no faith. These students don't return to their faith as parents will say, oh, they'll come back, I did. These this generation is not coming back. Barna projects that 80% of those reared in a church will be disengaged by the time they're 29. There you go. So they're leaving because they've been in Christian colleges or secular colleges. They're leaving their faith by the time they graduate from those institutions, and especially from regular college institutions and wherever they go after college. Uh, they're disengaged by the time they're 29, which means they're disengaged by the time most of them are getting married and having kids. And he goes on to Barna, says this from a worldview perspective, a A church's most, most important ministers should be the children's pastors and youth pastors. Discovering that seven out of every eight of those pastors lack biblical worldview helps to explain why so few people in the nation's youngest generations are developing a heart and mind and biblical principles and ways of life, and why our society seems to have run wild over the last decade. And and that's that's it. And the truth of the matter is, you can't teach what you don't know. They're unable to teach worldview to this last generation. They they don't know it. And you can everybody can draw their own conclusions for this. Yes. Pray for them. But the church has got to step up and start. Not only the pastors realizing they need to go back and really start studying the scriptures. There are plenty of courses and classes they can take, as well as youth pastors. And we've got to start hiring people that are are biblical. And I'm telling you, I've talked to pastors and churches, and in the last one I talked to a few months ago said we simply have yet and we've gone out and tried to find youth pastors who have a biblical worldview and excitement for teaching kids. And they said, we cannot find a single one. There you go.

That is absolutely terrifying because we know that, you know, there have been see, this problem, I think, is one that has always existed because we see some people, well known names in the ministry that have promoted themselves, maybe even their own agenda in the name of Christ. And anybody who does not have accountability and, you know, discipline actually can kind of fall into that same trap just as easily. So there's got to be a scriptural warning about that, because for you and I, we can become the same thing. We can lose humility. We can have pride. We have all of those things that anybody in a leadership position may even have. But what is the scriptural warning against that? Because that is a terrifying thought.

Well, first of all, I'm just listening to your to your speak right now. And flashing in my mind is, why does the road that leads to destruction?

Yes.

And narrow is the path that leads to life. And Christ said, I have come that they might have life. And Satan has come to to destroy. And he. I'm telling you one thing. Satan is doing a very good job. And and again, they think they're getting away with it. And I'm saying Christ made it very clear what he thinks today of the modern day Pharisees and false teachers and and these people who use religion, their religion, whatever hybrid that is to promote themselves and they make a living for themselves and try to make a name for themselves. And for the most part, when you dig a little deep and trust me, I have done that for years trying to meet with them and talk to them and see if I can help them and encourage them in some way. And most of them just are not interested because they're satisfied with how their churches are. And that's it's so frustrating to me. And they care little for personal spiritual growth in the formation of biblical worldview in students and much more on their greatness. Because kids, quite frankly, let me just tell you, because this just fired me up. The kids can't give. They can't put in in the in the plate. You know, they don't have a vote. And trust me, a lot of a lot of the lack of attention to kids is for that very reason. Uh, it is pathetic. They care little for the spiritual growth and formation of biblical worldview in students. And that's true. Having a following in applause from other is what matters to the majority of pastors today, including youth pastor. These pastors with full view of pews, generous giving, and a content congregation are all that matter to them. And I get it. I get most of them. And then there are those that are trying to speak the truth, and they've got small churches and other pastors are looking, oh, they don't have as many cars in their parking lot as we do on Sunday. And here are the people that God says, well done. And this is the thing. Uh, Matthew seven Than 2123. Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name? Did we not drive out demons and perform miracles? And then I will tell them plainly, I never knew you. Away from me, you evil doers. And this is the thing. Jesus wept over the future of Jerusalem. And he weeps today because he knows the end of of these of these pastors, but also the lack of faith that the people sitting under them. And on that day, when we stand before God, the motive of all hearts will be exposed. There will be no more pretense or spiritual deception. Preachers and teachers who have been faithful to proclaim truth and demonstrate godly living will receive their There are rewards and they will hear the Lord tell them, well done, my good and faithful servant. Isn't that what we're all striving for? Just to live out and fight against deception? And and we're finding that the greatest deception isn't in the cultures or in offices and all this stuff. It's in our pulpit and in youth classes or if they even have them. Most churches don't. You know, those who have not been faithful in their calling to go into all the world and of God and disciple and to love others? I'm telling you, we'll have led others astray, and those people will be exposed. That's the tears of Christ. Sadly, many of those teachers will be found lost themselves in the end when they hear those words. Get away from me! I never knew you and James three. Go back and read it. Uh, those who teach will be just judged harsher because many of the people under them will be led astray. And many of these false teachers. Uh, also we see are outside the church in schools. And today, because people don't read much, they listen and they, you know, they go to, to all these different, uh, specialists that can speak and populate the airwaves. But again, these same people are like in the pulpits. They're spreading lies and flaunting ungodly and selfish lifestyle. Timothy warns us, though, in this in Christ, through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, as Timothy wrote, for a time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears, they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. As for you, you who are sitting in those pews and you know something's wrong. Always be sober minded. Endure suffering. Do the work of an evangelist. Fulfill your ministry. In other words, don't let this false Christian culture to sway your truth, your sense of truth. Get in the Bible. Pray. Pray for the pastors. Pray for your pastor, but don't waver in the truth. And by the way, nobody's doing this. But it also said we are to expose evil. We are to go with compassion and love and expose evil. And that's not easy, because trust me, uh, you get into that web and it's it's awful. But if God calls you to expose it and go and, and lovingly talk to these people with the hopes that they will turn around, uh, as you were talking about when you were praying, Kelly, it to to have compassion and be strong, then that's what God calls us to do. But in the end, um, second Corinthians 1113 through 15, for such people are false apostles, deceitful workmen masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. And the end their actions will be. Uh. They will in the end will be what their actions deserve. In other words, God will judge. And and I think the Scripture today, uh, encourages us not to be shocked about what we're seeing, but please be discerning. Stay in the word of God. Discern truth from air. And don't be afraid to speak it out to your friends. Uh, by the way you live. And by the way, you have discussions with them. Because people are seeking truth. This is what I've learned through the years. They want to know truth. They really do. But who's teaching it? Who's teaching it? We've got the generation now coming up. These. These guys and gals flooding into college. Now they want to know Jesus. The Christian colleges are looking very favorable to this generation. But are they there to teach truth? Good question. I don't think so.

Be bold. Be bold in your teaching. And yeah, speaking the truth. Because you know what? Uh, you have to be. Um, no one else is going to be judged for the way that you live your Christian life. God is. God knows what's in your heart, and he is going to. You will be judged for the way that you are living your life, not someone else's. And pray for those who are in leadership. cannot stress it strongly enough. Make sure that you are in a sound church. Yeah, if you are not in a sound church and, um, they're not doing anything to make that a sound church, uh, you need to move along and find a sound church. But, man, Nancy, this has been, uh, again, great today. Thank you for being bold to bring this before us this morning and being willing to speak the truth of God's word. And we want to encourage all of you to stop by. Anchors aweigh. That is Nancy's biblical worldview website. You can find, uh, her unanswered smoke, mirrors and God curriculum there, which you can do from home, by the way, and you cannot afford to ignore biblical world view. I hope that you understand how vital this is. You can find out more about Worldview Boot Camp there and listen to past questions of the week there as well. Again, it is Anchors Aweigh dot zero.

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