Live from the Shepherd Community Center studios of Moody Radio, Indiana. It's mornings with Kelly and Steve.

Live from the Shepherd Community Center studios of Moody Radio, Indiana. It's mornings with Kelly and Steve.

Well, Kelly, you remember in our scripture today, I was talking about the the woman who had reached out in the midst of her, her angst about her child getting books that were religious as quote unquote, religious in nature. Yeah. Um, and then we had one person who stood up out of all the comments, out of all the comments, I would have to imagine that there were other people who would self-identify as being a Christian. But they didn't. They didn't say anything about it. They just kind of hung back. Mhm. And they didn't take a stand for Christ. Which brings us to the question of why the majority of people who are self-identified Christians very ineffective to actually create change in a godless culture. Right. Yeah. I'm just confused about that.

Well, Kelly, you remember in our scripture today, I was talking about the the woman who had reached out in the midst of her, her angst about her child getting books that were religious as quote unquote, religious in nature. Yeah. Um, and then we had one person who stood up out of all the comments, out of all the comments, I would have to imagine that there were other people who would self-identify as being a Christian. But they didn't. They didn't say anything about it. They just kind of hung back. Mhm. And they didn't take a stand for Christ. Which brings us to the question of why the majority of people who are self-identified Christians very ineffective to actually create change in a godless culture. Right. Yeah. I'm just confused about that.

Great point.

Great point.

Bugs me. Bugs me.

Bugs me. Bugs me.

Well, you know who can help us with this?

Well, you know who can help us with this?

No. No idea.

No. No idea.

Nancy Fitzgerald from Anchors Aweigh. Me neither. Yeah, I have no idea. I got a feeling you've probably got a thing or two that you can. You can say on this Nancy or seven and and really help us pick this apart. Good morning.

Nancy Fitzgerald from Anchors Aweigh. Me neither. Yeah, I have no idea. I got a feeling you've probably got a thing or two that you can. You can say on this Nancy or seven and and really help us pick this apart. Good morning.

Oh good morning. That hits such a hot spot with me. Um, this whole thing. Yes, yes. Well, we can certainly talk about it today, that's for sure.

Oh good morning. That hits such a hot spot with me. Um, this whole thing. Yes, yes. Well, we can certainly talk about it today, that's for sure.

Well, then, let's jump into it. Why are the majority of self-identifying Christians ineffective in changing a godless culture? Pick it apart.

Well, then, let's jump into it. Why are the majority of self-identifying Christians ineffective in changing a godless culture? Pick it apart.

Yeah. And and let's just begin by by saying that few cultures throughout time have been more hostile toward Christians. Those Christians who actually live by the moral standards set by God in the Bible. It's not a yada boy God. It's it's a holy, righteous God who is perfect in all ways. And and this is the thing about the the cultural Christians that we're going to be talking about is that many are drawn to Christ's forgiveness of sin. They love that. Uh, but hold to the world's standards for thinking and living their lives separate from the truths of the Bible. The moral fabric of the Bible is ignored, but this idea of living in heaven forever looks great to them. And sadly, many of those would identify as Christians. And they don't have the hope, the assurance that when they die, they'll go to heaven. But they wish it. They kind of are hoping they don't know what that really means that they'll go to heaven. But the truth of the matter is, if you would ignore the moral standard set by the Bible and live your own lives, you will not be going to heaven. It's that clear. Scripture is so clear in this, and only those who understand that they have indeed sinned, meaning gone against God, God Himself and his moral standards and asked for forgiveness and repent. Go the other way and trust God and obey God, and and and love others and love him. Those people will spend eternity with God and and Christ over and over again. Makes it very clear that we should live according to what he says in His Word. Matthew 23 2237 through 39. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind. This is the first and greatest command. And the second is like it. Love your neighbor as yourself. In Galatians 220, I have been crucified with Christ. I no longer it is, uh, it is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh. I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. So the standards that we are called to by God are high, and they're impossible to meet unless we have that relationship with God, the Holy Spirit in us. And then we can begin again to do those things that the world cannot do, like love and experience forgiveness from God.

Yeah. And and let's just begin by by saying that few cultures throughout time have been more hostile toward Christians. Those Christians who actually live by the moral standards set by God in the Bible. It's not a yada boy God. It's it's a holy, righteous God who is perfect in all ways. And and this is the thing about the the cultural Christians that we're going to be talking about is that many are drawn to Christ's forgiveness of sin. They love that. Uh, but hold to the world's standards for thinking and living their lives separate from the truths of the Bible. The moral fabric of the Bible is ignored, but this idea of living in heaven forever looks great to them. And sadly, many of those would identify as Christians. And they don't have the hope, the assurance that when they die, they'll go to heaven. But they wish it. They kind of are hoping they don't know what that really means that they'll go to heaven. But the truth of the matter is, if you would ignore the moral standard set by the Bible and live your own lives, you will not be going to heaven. It's that clear. Scripture is so clear in this, and only those who understand that they have indeed sinned, meaning gone against God, God Himself and his moral standards and asked for forgiveness and repent. Go the other way and trust God and obey God, and and and love others and love him. Those people will spend eternity with God and and Christ over and over again. Makes it very clear that we should live according to what he says in His Word. Matthew 23 2237 through 39. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind. This is the first and greatest command. And the second is like it. Love your neighbor as yourself. In Galatians 220, I have been crucified with Christ. I no longer it is, uh, it is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh. I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. So the standards that we are called to by God are high, and they're impossible to meet unless we have that relationship with God, the Holy Spirit in us. And then we can begin again to do those things that the world cannot do, like love and experience forgiveness from God.

Well, Nancy, it sounds like you know, that we've got to we've got to find a source for this, uh, to make this quantifiable. Are there any statistics or anything about self-identifying Christians, uh, that they're even capable of possessing or living by a biblical worldview? Is there anything that we can kind of correlate that number two?

Well, Nancy, it sounds like you know, that we've got to we've got to find a source for this, uh, to make this quantifiable. Are there any statistics or anything about self-identifying Christians, uh, that they're even capable of possessing or living by a biblical worldview? Is there anything that we can kind of correlate that number two?

Yes. And there are a lot of steps out there. Uh, but, uh, let's just say that with 60 some percent of people in the United States, uh, they would identify as Christians, only 4% of them self-identified Christians embrace a biblical worldview. The biblical worldview means that their lives and decisions and laws for others reflect the way Christ lives in our in concert with the truths of the Bible. And this is the thing, if if you call yourself Christian and don't read the scriptures and don't know what God says, how we should live. Then. Then you're living a life that that's sadly going to get you nowhere. George Barna writes this If Jesus Christ came to this planet as a model of how we ought to live, then our goal should be to act like Jesus. Sadly, few people consistently demonstrate the love, obedience, and priorities of Jesus. The primary reason that people do not act like Jesus is because they don't think like him. Our behavior stems from what we believe our attitudes, beliefs, values, and opinions. Although most people own a Bible and are familiar with some of its concepts, our research found that most Americans had little idea of how to integrate core biblical principles to form a unified and In meaningful response to the challenges and opportunities of life. We're more often concerned with survival amidst chaos than with experiencing truth and significance. That's kind of what you were talking about earlier, Kelly, when you were talking about the chaotic world that we live in and and this is it, we get thrown off base and and with the chaos, what do I do? What do I do? And oftentimes we would yield to the to the world culture instead of working toward and working hard to be the person that God called us to be. It's not easy. I'll be the first to say it is not easy.

Yes. And there are a lot of steps out there. Uh, but, uh, let's just say that with 60 some percent of people in the United States, uh, they would identify as Christians, only 4% of them self-identified Christians embrace a biblical worldview. The biblical worldview means that their lives and decisions and laws for others reflect the way Christ lives in our in concert with the truths of the Bible. And this is the thing, if if you call yourself Christian and don't read the scriptures and don't know what God says, how we should live. Then. Then you're living a life that that's sadly going to get you nowhere. George Barna writes this If Jesus Christ came to this planet as a model of how we ought to live, then our goal should be to act like Jesus. Sadly, few people consistently demonstrate the love, obedience, and priorities of Jesus. The primary reason that people do not act like Jesus is because they don't think like him. Our behavior stems from what we believe our attitudes, beliefs, values, and opinions. Although most people own a Bible and are familiar with some of its concepts, our research found that most Americans had little idea of how to integrate core biblical principles to form a unified and In meaningful response to the challenges and opportunities of life. We're more often concerned with survival amidst chaos than with experiencing truth and significance. That's kind of what you were talking about earlier, Kelly, when you were talking about the chaotic world that we live in and and this is it, we get thrown off base and and with the chaos, what do I do? What do I do? And oftentimes we would yield to the to the world culture instead of working toward and working hard to be the person that God called us to be. It's not easy. I'll be the first to say it is not easy.

That is so true. So, Nancy, if these born again non-biblical Christians don't regard reading the Bible and following what it says and impacting the culture with biblical truth, and I want you to talk about what it is that they do believe in. Where are they turning for guidance upon what shaky philosophy are they building? Because, you know, it's got to be a very shaky philosophy.

That is so true. So, Nancy, if these born again non-biblical Christians don't regard reading the Bible and following what it says and impacting the culture with biblical truth, and I want you to talk about what it is that they do believe in. Where are they turning for guidance upon what shaky philosophy are they building? Because, you know, it's got to be a very shaky philosophy.

It is absolutely ridiculous. Again, George Barna from the Cultural Resource Center, um, the following concerning a wide range of beliefs that are not in harmony with biblical teaching. And and these are some of his statistics. It's so bad. It's in a way a just it's just ridiculous. 70, 71% of those who identify with Christians, 71% consider feelings, experience or input from friends and family as their most trusted source of moral guidance. 71% 64% say that all religious faiths are of equal value, 58% believe that if a person is good enough or does good enough things, they can earn their way to heaven. 57% believe in karma. Really? In 52% claim that determining moral truth is up to each individual. There are no moral absolutes that apply to everyone all the time. And we wonder. We wonder why on earth the church is falling apart. In my own critical mind, says all these people, many of them, the vast majority of them are sitting in churches. How can they hold to this worldview and sit in a church? I don't know. I just think it's a wolf. It's so revealing what is not going on in the with the Christians who are who are called by God to teach and to preach. I don't know what's happening. I have an idea. But Christians must first know and be taught that the Bible is God's Word. It is absolute truth. It's not a book of suggestions. And they they must go back to the basics of building a biblical faith and learn some basic apologetics, which means being able to give the reason for the hope that you have. It is being able to explain our hope by answering sometimes difficult questions that others ask about things like how do you know the Bible is true? Or what does it mean? What does salvation mean? And is it a gift? Or what do we have to do to get it? Or how do we live out our faith boldly in in a broken, very scary, dark culture? How do we do it? And speaking truth is not merely a moral obligation to those who are lost or confused, but a true reflection of God's character in reaching out to the lost. And if we look in the Bible, when we look at God going into the crowds and this and that and the other, he didn't cower down to the pressure of people coming against him. Quite the contrary, he spoke truth. And this is what God calls us to do. First Peter 315 in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for the reason for the hope that is in you. And please do this with gentleness and respect is what Christ is saying here. But if you don't have a defense, if you haven't, if you haven't looked into or asked people or studied, how do I know any of this is true? Uh, then I would encourage everybody to do it. There are plenty of books out there that talk about and will teach you, uh, why we believe what we believe. In Ephesians 415 says, rather speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way unto him who is the head unto Christ. So we have to speak out in truth to people who are lost, and doing this with gentleness and respect, but firmness, but firmness. And it's it's not easy. I'm just saying it isn't easy.

It is absolutely ridiculous. Again, George Barna from the Cultural Resource Center, um, the following concerning a wide range of beliefs that are not in harmony with biblical teaching. And and these are some of his statistics. It's so bad. It's in a way a just it's just ridiculous. 70, 71% of those who identify with Christians, 71% consider feelings, experience or input from friends and family as their most trusted source of moral guidance. 71% 64% say that all religious faiths are of equal value, 58% believe that if a person is good enough or does good enough things, they can earn their way to heaven. 57% believe in karma. Really? In 52% claim that determining moral truth is up to each individual. There are no moral absolutes that apply to everyone all the time. And we wonder. We wonder why on earth the church is falling apart. In my own critical mind, says all these people, many of them, the vast majority of them are sitting in churches. How can they hold to this worldview and sit in a church? I don't know. I just think it's a wolf. It's so revealing what is not going on in the with the Christians who are who are called by God to teach and to preach. I don't know what's happening. I have an idea. But Christians must first know and be taught that the Bible is God's Word. It is absolute truth. It's not a book of suggestions. And they they must go back to the basics of building a biblical faith and learn some basic apologetics, which means being able to give the reason for the hope that you have. It is being able to explain our hope by answering sometimes difficult questions that others ask about things like how do you know the Bible is true? Or what does it mean? What does salvation mean? And is it a gift? Or what do we have to do to get it? Or how do we live out our faith boldly in in a broken, very scary, dark culture? How do we do it? And speaking truth is not merely a moral obligation to those who are lost or confused, but a true reflection of God's character in reaching out to the lost. And if we look in the Bible, when we look at God going into the crowds and this and that and the other, he didn't cower down to the pressure of people coming against him. Quite the contrary, he spoke truth. And this is what God calls us to do. First Peter 315 in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for the reason for the hope that is in you. And please do this with gentleness and respect is what Christ is saying here. But if you don't have a defense, if you haven't, if you haven't looked into or asked people or studied, how do I know any of this is true? Uh, then I would encourage everybody to do it. There are plenty of books out there that talk about and will teach you, uh, why we believe what we believe. In Ephesians 415 says, rather speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way unto him who is the head unto Christ. So we have to speak out in truth to people who are lost, and doing this with gentleness and respect, but firmness, but firmness. And it's it's not easy. I'm just saying it isn't easy.

Well, Jesus says that the world will know that we are his by our love for one another. So what does that actually look like? right when a Christian is not self-identifying, but they actually live as though he or she should according to the word of God. And they're, you know, being impactful for Christ in the culture around them because they are speaking truth and love. What does that look like then, when that is happening, when we're actually doing what we are commanded?

Well, Jesus says that the world will know that we are his by our love for one another. So what does that actually look like? right when a Christian is not self-identifying, but they actually live as though he or she should according to the word of God. And they're, you know, being impactful for Christ in the culture around them because they are speaking truth and love. What does that look like then, when that is happening, when we're actually doing what we are commanded?

Yes. And and, you know, I'm in the golf world. It's a different world for sure. But, you know, one thing I've learned a long time ago, um, is to live out my faith and be ready and prepared to give the reason for the hope that I have but first love and first gained the respect of people that they know, that they are loved and honored, even though they're quite different and in their lives than than the Christian and, you know, I just shared this a few years ago, uh, a friend of mine who had chosen to live the lesbian lifestyle asked me to have lunch with her and some of her friends. And it wasn't unusual, you know, we were friends, and and I thought, well, that's fine. And and we met together. And during lunch, uh, my, my friend said, why are you the only Christian who is a true friend of ours who loves us is what she was saying? And, uh, everybody at that table, I had chosen a lifestyle, uh, similar to one another. And I was just. I was caught off guard. Um, uh, because, number one, I knew the Christians that that wouldn't have anything to do with these, quote, Centers. Uh, and and what she was saying was true, that many of the Christian so-called Christians out there, uh, had had rejected them. And and at any rate, I, I paused and I at that point, I was begging God to step in here and confront them in love, uh, by speaking truth to them. And so I'm grateful to God for this. But and I said, I'm sorry that those misled Christians have mistreated you. I'm so sorry. And I think that they shunned you because they don't know you. They don't know that you are dearly loved by God. They don't know that you're not a mistake, but wonderfully made by God in his image, meaning that he wants you to know him and to live with him. And another gal there said, I thought because I'm gay, that God was going to send me to hell, all of us to hell. And I said, if you're asking me if the Bible says that homosexuality is a sin, I tell you that the Bible is clear in saying that it is a sin. The Bible is also very clear in teaching us that we all sin in many different ways by lying, by cheating, by jealousy, hating, uh, judging others unfairly. And that, just to name a few, the list goes on and on. And these sins, and many more are why Jesus came to earth. To die on a cross, to pay the price for the sins, for the sins of people, meaning those people that went against what he told us to do and how he told us to love. And these sins, and many more, are why Jesus came to earth to die on the cross, to pay the price for the sins of all of us who sinned. In many ways, many different ways. And when we realize that sinning does not give us peace, and when we turn to Jesus, who died again for the forgiveness of our sins, and that we might have true peace and true joy, only then will we have the hope that we are loved, and that we have purpose each and every day to walk with God and to know that we are loved. And when we put our trust in them, In him he will forgive us and teach us how to live obediently with him, and to love him, and to forgive the people who hurt us. And when we trust him and we believe in him, then we'll know that when we die, we will go to heaven. We don't have to hope for it or wish it. We know we'll go to heaven and be with God forever. And in the meantime, his desire is that you love, trust and follow him and know you'll never be perfect. But he will walk with us in our imperfection, and he will work through our lives individually to make us into the people that he's called us to be. And, you know, um, the response to that was absolute dead silence at that table.

Yes. And and, you know, I'm in the golf world. It's a different world for sure. But, you know, one thing I've learned a long time ago, um, is to live out my faith and be ready and prepared to give the reason for the hope that I have but first love and first gained the respect of people that they know, that they are loved and honored, even though they're quite different and in their lives than than the Christian and, you know, I just shared this a few years ago, uh, a friend of mine who had chosen to live the lesbian lifestyle asked me to have lunch with her and some of her friends. And it wasn't unusual, you know, we were friends, and and I thought, well, that's fine. And and we met together. And during lunch, uh, my, my friend said, why are you the only Christian who is a true friend of ours who loves us is what she was saying? And, uh, everybody at that table, I had chosen a lifestyle, uh, similar to one another. And I was just. I was caught off guard. Um, uh, because, number one, I knew the Christians that that wouldn't have anything to do with these, quote, Centers. Uh, and and what she was saying was true, that many of the Christian so-called Christians out there, uh, had had rejected them. And and at any rate, I, I paused and I at that point, I was begging God to step in here and confront them in love, uh, by speaking truth to them. And so I'm grateful to God for this. But and I said, I'm sorry that those misled Christians have mistreated you. I'm so sorry. And I think that they shunned you because they don't know you. They don't know that you are dearly loved by God. They don't know that you're not a mistake, but wonderfully made by God in his image, meaning that he wants you to know him and to live with him. And another gal there said, I thought because I'm gay, that God was going to send me to hell, all of us to hell. And I said, if you're asking me if the Bible says that homosexuality is a sin, I tell you that the Bible is clear in saying that it is a sin. The Bible is also very clear in teaching us that we all sin in many different ways by lying, by cheating, by jealousy, hating, uh, judging others unfairly. And that, just to name a few, the list goes on and on. And these sins, and many more are why Jesus came to earth. To die on a cross, to pay the price for the sins, for the sins of people, meaning those people that went against what he told us to do and how he told us to love. And these sins, and many more, are why Jesus came to earth to die on the cross, to pay the price for the sins of all of us who sinned. In many ways, many different ways. And when we realize that sinning does not give us peace, and when we turn to Jesus, who died again for the forgiveness of our sins, and that we might have true peace and true joy, only then will we have the hope that we are loved, and that we have purpose each and every day to walk with God and to know that we are loved. And when we put our trust in them, In him he will forgive us and teach us how to live obediently with him, and to love him, and to forgive the people who hurt us. And when we trust him and we believe in him, then we'll know that when we die, we will go to heaven. We don't have to hope for it or wish it. We know we'll go to heaven and be with God forever. And in the meantime, his desire is that you love, trust and follow him and know you'll never be perfect. But he will walk with us in our imperfection, and he will work through our lives individually to make us into the people that he's called us to be. And, you know, um, the response to that was absolute dead silence at that table.

I bet.

I bet.

And another, you know, I mean, they were just looking at me like, what was that? And I said, it's the truth. I'm just speaking truth. You know, people might shun you, but God will never because he loves you so much. You need. The issue is with God, not with those who are cruel to you. And you know, they all were so grateful that I had spoken truth to them, and they didn't shun me or or anything, but they. But I knew then that I. That God stepped in because I was able to give the gospel to them in their language, not in christianese in their language, so they could understand it, and they could know for the first time that they were loved and not shunned by God. Uh, Christians who shun others for their sin to make themselves look better are just like the Pharisees of old. I are today's Pharisees. I just I just can't imagine. But I we need to put ourselves in positions like this and trust God for the boldness to speak truth from the Scripture. As we meet people like these women, those who are suffering, but we're afraid of them. And God says, don't be afraid. Just go and love them boldly in. As followers of Christ, I do think we should pray, as Paul did, uh, that the Lord would grant us supernatural boldness to speak and live as he would have us do in this age of great deception, in resistance to biblical truth, to moral truth, uh, a more than ever. And therefore the call for boldness coupled with love and humility is like light and darkness that gives hope to the hopeless and people who are out there doing those awful things. Kelly, you were talking about our love by God. And and this is the thing we have to risk speaking truth in a hostile world. You know, if they reject us. So what? But at least they've heard. And as long as we're obedient to our call and talk about truth in love, uh, to others, uh, once again, it's not up to us to change them. The gods are responsible for the results. We're just called by God to be bold and to speak truth. And more importantly, live it out. Live it out, uh, by by being with people who are different. And I think that's what's so hard for the Christian community. They like to stay in their, their little clusters and anybody that is bad or whatever they consider bad. They don't want anything to do with them because they consider themselves to righteous and Christ who was perfect. That those are the very people he mixed with. And we church have to have to start educating ourselves in the Word of God, living as God called us to live according to his moral law, and then reach out and start conversations with these people, not preaching to them, but asking them their story. Tell me what's going on. And start that way on their level. Yeah. You know, Paul says in Ephesians 618 through 20. To that end, keep alert with all perseverance, making supplication for all the saints, and also for me, that the words be given to me in opening my mouth boldly to proclaim the mystery of the gospel for which I am an ambassador in chains, that I may declare it boldly as I ought to speak.

And another, you know, I mean, they were just looking at me like, what was that? And I said, it's the truth. I'm just speaking truth. You know, people might shun you, but God will never because he loves you so much. You need. The issue is with God, not with those who are cruel to you. And you know, they all were so grateful that I had spoken truth to them, and they didn't shun me or or anything, but they. But I knew then that I. That God stepped in because I was able to give the gospel to them in their language, not in christianese in their language, so they could understand it, and they could know for the first time that they were loved and not shunned by God. Uh, Christians who shun others for their sin to make themselves look better are just like the Pharisees of old. I are today's Pharisees. I just I just can't imagine. But I we need to put ourselves in positions like this and trust God for the boldness to speak truth from the Scripture. As we meet people like these women, those who are suffering, but we're afraid of them. And God says, don't be afraid. Just go and love them boldly in. As followers of Christ, I do think we should pray, as Paul did, uh, that the Lord would grant us supernatural boldness to speak and live as he would have us do in this age of great deception, in resistance to biblical truth, to moral truth, uh, a more than ever. And therefore the call for boldness coupled with love and humility is like light and darkness that gives hope to the hopeless and people who are out there doing those awful things. Kelly, you were talking about our love by God. And and this is the thing we have to risk speaking truth in a hostile world. You know, if they reject us. So what? But at least they've heard. And as long as we're obedient to our call and talk about truth in love, uh, to others, uh, once again, it's not up to us to change them. The gods are responsible for the results. We're just called by God to be bold and to speak truth. And more importantly, live it out. Live it out, uh, by by being with people who are different. And I think that's what's so hard for the Christian community. They like to stay in their, their little clusters and anybody that is bad or whatever they consider bad. They don't want anything to do with them because they consider themselves to righteous and Christ who was perfect. That those are the very people he mixed with. And we church have to have to start educating ourselves in the Word of God, living as God called us to live according to his moral law, and then reach out and start conversations with these people, not preaching to them, but asking them their story. Tell me what's going on. And start that way on their level. Yeah. You know, Paul says in Ephesians 618 through 20. To that end, keep alert with all perseverance, making supplication for all the saints, and also for me, that the words be given to me in opening my mouth boldly to proclaim the mystery of the gospel for which I am an ambassador in chains, that I may declare it boldly as I ought to speak.

Yes, we are under compulsion. That is our our that is our commission. That's our mandate. And we forget that we were bad. We're just under grace and we have got to preach the gospel. Exactly. Nancy, this has been great today, and we want to point people over to your website to Anchors aweigh.org, where they can go and check out the question of the week. They can also take advantage of the book, Unanswered Smoke, Mirrors and God in that curriculum, where the vast majority of Christians are unsure of what they believe and why, and unanswered is for those who are seeking a greater understanding of truth. It's an easy to read format and also the Worldview Boot camp. You can learn online or in person about the Christian and other worldviews. And if you need to get in touch with Nancy, you can do that through Anchors aweigh.org. Or always text us here and we'll make sure to get you connected.

Yes, we are under compulsion. That is our our that is our commission. That's our mandate. And we forget that we were bad. We're just under grace and we have got to preach the gospel. Exactly. Nancy, this has been great today, and we want to point people over to your website to Anchors aweigh.org, where they can go and check out the question of the week. They can also take advantage of the book, Unanswered Smoke, Mirrors and God in that curriculum, where the vast majority of Christians are unsure of what they believe and why, and unanswered is for those who are seeking a greater understanding of truth. It's an easy to read format and also the Worldview Boot camp. You can learn online or in person about the Christian and other worldviews. And if you need to get in touch with Nancy, you can do that through Anchors aweigh.org. Or always text us here and we'll make sure to get you connected.