Good morning, Welcome Thursday, this April the third, this Liberation Day. In the terms of Donald Trump, well with friends like the US. Who needs enemies so much? For the Australia US free trade agreement. Australia has been hit with a ten percent tariff on all imports to the US as part of a global tariff regime imposed by US President Donald Trump. In his Liberation Day speech, the President held up a board listing countries and their rates of tariff. It claimed Australia imposed to ten percent tariff on US goods, including currency manipulation and other trade barriers. He said America would impose a broad ten percent reciprocal tariff in return. Now, the US and Australia, as I said, have a free trade agreement signed in two thousand and five. Australian goods going to the US without tariffs, American goods coming to Australia without tariffs. We were not singled out, however, for the particular tariff treatment. The ten percent tariff is a baseline global tariff that will be imposed on all foreign imports from one minute ufter the midnight Saturday morning White House time. Trump did, however, in his speech, single out Australia's ban on the import of US beef, imposed in two thousand and three after the US had cases of mad cow disease.

Good morning, Welcome Thursday, this April the third, this Liberation Day. In the terms of Donald Trump, well with friends like the US. Who needs enemies so much? For the Australia US free trade agreement. Australia has been hit with a ten percent tariff on all imports to the US as part of a global tariff regime imposed by US President Donald Trump. In his Liberation Day speech, the President held up a board listing countries and their rates of tariff. It claimed Australia imposed to ten percent tariff on US goods, including currency manipulation and other trade barriers. He said America would impose a broad ten percent reciprocal tariff in return. Now, the US and Australia, as I said, have a free trade agreement signed in two thousand and five. Australian goods going to the US without tariffs, American goods coming to Australia without tariffs. We were not singled out, however, for the particular tariff treatment. The ten percent tariff is a baseline global tariff that will be imposed on all foreign imports from one minute ufter the midnight Saturday morning White House time. Trump did, however, in his speech, single out Australia's ban on the import of US beef, imposed in two thousand and three after the US had cases of mad cow disease.

For Australia bands and they're wonderful people and wonderful everything, but they ban American beef. Yet we imported three billion dollars of Australian beef from them just last year alone. They won't take any of our beef. They don't want it because they don't want it to affect their farmers. And you know what, I don't blame them, but we're doing the same thing right now. Starting about midnight tonight, I would say.

For Australia bands and they're wonderful people and wonderful everything, but they ban American beef. Yet we imported three billion dollars of Australian beef from them just last year alone. They won't take any of our beef. They don't want it because they don't want it to affect their farmers. And you know what, I don't blame them, but we're doing the same thing right now. Starting about midnight tonight, I would say.

There's a warm round of applause for US President Donald Trump. He imposed a ten percent baseline tariff on all US imports, with higher reciprocal tariffs on major trading partners like China thirty four percent and the EU twenty percent. But let's get back to the beef. How beef is Is it a ten percent tariff or a ban? He hasn't clarify that point. No one has been able to clarify it, and it is quite significant. Here's the Prime Minister's initial reaction to the tariffs for Australia.

There's a warm round of applause for US President Donald Trump. He imposed a ten percent baseline tariff on all US imports, with higher reciprocal tariffs on major trading partners like China thirty four percent and the EU twenty percent. But let's get back to the beef. How beef is Is it a ten percent tariff or a ban? He hasn't clarify that point. No one has been able to clarify it, and it is quite significant. Here's the Prime Minister's initial reaction to the tariffs for Australia.

These tariffs are not unexpected, but let me be clear, they are totally unwarranted. President Trump referred to reciprocal tariffs. A reciprocal tariff would be zero, not ten percent. The administration's tariffs have no basis in logic, and they go against the basis of our two nations partnership. This is not the act of a friend. Our shared history, our friendship, our alliance. These are all bigger than a poor decision. But the Australian people have every right to view this action by the Trump administration as undermining our free and fair trading relationship and counter to the shared values that have always been at the heart of our two nations. Long step any friendship.

These tariffs are not unexpected, but let me be clear, they are totally unwarranted. President Trump referred to reciprocal tariffs. A reciprocal tariff would be zero, not ten percent. The administration's tariffs have no basis in logic, and they go against the basis of our two nations partnership. This is not the act of a friend. Our shared history, our friendship, our alliance. These are all bigger than a poor decision. But the Australian people have every right to view this action by the Trump administration as undermining our free and fair trading relationship and counter to the shared values that have always been at the heart of our two nations. Long step any friendship.

And here's the initial reaction from Simon Maddox from Primary producers essay on the tariffs.

And here's the initial reaction from Simon Maddox from Primary producers essay on the tariffs.

It's a bit early, the devil age and this is going to be in the detail, and we haven't seen the detail yet. We've all just had the President's speech. This has probably got a bit consequences from America than it has for Australia. The US market's an important market for Australian beef. I think we exported just under four hundred thousand tons last year to the US. But our total globe will export to some two point two four million tons and we have one hundred and two markets.

It's a bit early, the devil age and this is going to be in the detail, and we haven't seen the detail yet. We've all just had the President's speech. This has probably got a bit consequences from America than it has for Australia. The US market's an important market for Australian beef. I think we exported just under four hundred thousand tons last year to the US. But our total globe will export to some two point two four million tons and we have one hundred and two markets.

So we'll analyze the tariffs as they come to hand. But to the burning question, the burning statement by Donald Trump, Australia bans and they wonderful people, but they ban American beef. Yet we imported three billion dollars of Australian beef from them just last year alone. They won't take any of our beef. They don't want it because they don't want it to affect their farmers. And you know, I don't blame them, but we're doing the same thing right now, starting at midnight tonight. And there's the rub Is it a ten percent tariff or is it a ban on Australian beef. We're just going to have to sit and wait an expectation. We'll have full analysis of the Liberation Day tariffs coming up shortly. Also on the show today, the election campaign has sort of melded into the background, isn't it. But we will be right on top of that to see exactly what is happening in campaigning leading up to the May three election. Also today, the steel works at Wiler what is happening there. We know Quortermentor is managing things at the moment looking for a buyer. There's been a suggestion that if a suitable buyer can't be found, it should be nationalized, and that comes from former Senator and Jackie Lamby Network Senate candidate Rex Patrick. We'll be speaking with Rex Patrick a little bit later on. Also, what do you think about fifty cent public fairs? Bus fares well? The legislation has passed, the Upper House hasn't got any likelihood of success in the lower House. We'll speak with Green's co leader and MLC Rob Simms about that. We have our regular Thursday legal segment Johnson with us. If you have any questions of a legal nature, here is your opportunity to get some free advice. Two to three DOUBLEO is the number to ring on that matter, or anything else or your thoughts on the issues of the day. Love to hear from.

So we'll analyze the tariffs as they come to hand. But to the burning question, the burning statement by Donald Trump, Australia bans and they wonderful people, but they ban American beef. Yet we imported three billion dollars of Australian beef from them just last year alone. They won't take any of our beef. They don't want it because they don't want it to affect their farmers. And you know, I don't blame them, but we're doing the same thing right now, starting at midnight tonight. And there's the rub Is it a ten percent tariff or is it a ban on Australian beef. We're just going to have to sit and wait an expectation. We'll have full analysis of the Liberation Day tariffs coming up shortly. Also on the show today, the election campaign has sort of melded into the background, isn't it. But we will be right on top of that to see exactly what is happening in campaigning leading up to the May three election. Also today, the steel works at Wiler what is happening there. We know Quortermentor is managing things at the moment looking for a buyer. There's been a suggestion that if a suitable buyer can't be found, it should be nationalized, and that comes from former Senator and Jackie Lamby Network Senate candidate Rex Patrick. We'll be speaking with Rex Patrick a little bit later on. Also, what do you think about fifty cent public fairs? Bus fares well? The legislation has passed, the Upper House hasn't got any likelihood of success in the lower House. We'll speak with Green's co leader and MLC Rob Simms about that. We have our regular Thursday legal segment Johnson with us. If you have any questions of a legal nature, here is your opportunity to get some free advice. Two to three DOUBLEO is the number to ring on that matter, or anything else or your thoughts on the issues of the day. Love to hear from.

You, five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.

You, five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.

Nineteen past nine, five double A. On this Thursday, a momentous day, Liberation Day in the US. As you've heard that oubt throughout the morning. President Trump has imposed a ten percent baseline tariff on all US imports with higher reciprocal tariffs on major trading partners like China and the EU. There's a twenty five percent tax on Australian steel and aliminim exports to the US and a likely ten percent tax on Australian beef or potentially a ban that is still unclear. Let's try to make some sense of it all. Joining Minawa's International Trade and Industry Senior Research Fellow, the University of Adelaide's doctor Nathan Gray. Nathan, good morning to you. Good morning Graham. First, Blush, what is your reaction to the tariffs.

Nineteen past nine, five double A. On this Thursday, a momentous day, Liberation Day in the US. As you've heard that oubt throughout the morning. President Trump has imposed a ten percent baseline tariff on all US imports with higher reciprocal tariffs on major trading partners like China and the EU. There's a twenty five percent tax on Australian steel and aliminim exports to the US and a likely ten percent tax on Australian beef or potentially a ban that is still unclear. Let's try to make some sense of it all. Joining Minawa's International Trade and Industry Senior Research Fellow, the University of Adelaide's doctor Nathan Gray. Nathan, good morning to you. Good morning Graham. First, Blush, what is your reaction to the tariffs.

Well, it's taken an econom magician to work out the tariffs by working out or guessing what an implied tariff freight would be from value added taxes in addition to non tariff measures and various other restrictions on trade which are all legal under the well trade organization agreements. But Australia being applied a ten percent tariff, which is the baseline lowest tariff rate, has got off lightly.

Well, it's taken an econom magician to work out the tariffs by working out or guessing what an implied tariff freight would be from value added taxes in addition to non tariff measures and various other restrictions on trade which are all legal under the well trade organization agreements. But Australia being applied a ten percent tariff, which is the baseline lowest tariff rate, has got off lightly.

We have got off lightly, but we did have a free trade agreement. Where's that gone?

We have got off lightly, but we did have a free trade agreement. Where's that gone?

Well, I think that's probably why we have been given the lowest rates. So they have decided to lift their minimum rate essentially to ten percent, and they have done that across the board to every single country without any exceptions. So that's probably why we are at to ten percent. There's a range of countries that are at ten percent, and it's not really consistent. So for example, azerbaijanas at ten percent, Singapore is at ten percent, Senegal is at ten But at the same time, you know countries like Mauritius at forty percent, the EU at twenty percent for example, and Cambodia at even higher at forty nine percent.

Well, I think that's probably why we have been given the lowest rates. So they have decided to lift their minimum rate essentially to ten percent, and they have done that across the board to every single country without any exceptions. So that's probably why we are at to ten percent. There's a range of countries that are at ten percent, and it's not really consistent. So for example, azerbaijanas at ten percent, Singapore is at ten percent, Senegal is at ten But at the same time, you know countries like Mauritius at forty percent, the EU at twenty percent for example, and Cambodia at even higher at forty nine percent.

Yeah, when you look at it, I mean Australia has held a special relationship with the US. We've been there for them in wartime, in peacetime, always been a supporter. So we're certainly not getting preferential treatment at the moment.

Yeah, when you look at it, I mean Australia has held a special relationship with the US. We've been there for them in wartime, in peacetime, always been a supporter. So we're certainly not getting preferential treatment at the moment.

We're not getting preferential treatment, but we haven't been hit anywhere near as hard as what some commentators were suggesting, and this may indeed directly provide a comparative advantage for Australia in our exports to the US.

We're not getting preferential treatment, but we haven't been hit anywhere near as hard as what some commentators were suggesting, and this may indeed directly provide a comparative advantage for Australia in our exports to the US.

Which Australian industries are like mind to Millot be most affected by the taras.

Which Australian industries are like mind to Millot be most affected by the taras.

Look, the major industries that export to the export merchandise goods, and I think it's important to emphasize that these tariffs are not applied on services. They're applied only on goods. So our major export goods include meat, meat products so beef, but also lamb, precious stones and metals and coins, pharmaceutical products, technical equipment, machinery, boilers, electrical equipment, parts of aircraft, animal vegetable fats and oils, and aluminium, iron and steel, and of course wine and alcohols. So they're the industries that are most likely to be affected. Now some of them are going to be less affected than others. So where you have a bulk commodity where there is a you know there's a general price, that's probably not going to be affected as much. Whereas areas where there are where they are highly priced sensitive in the market, such as with Australian exports of wine, we're more likely to be affected.

Look, the major industries that export to the export merchandise goods, and I think it's important to emphasize that these tariffs are not applied on services. They're applied only on goods. So our major export goods include meat, meat products so beef, but also lamb, precious stones and metals and coins, pharmaceutical products, technical equipment, machinery, boilers, electrical equipment, parts of aircraft, animal vegetable fats and oils, and aluminium, iron and steel, and of course wine and alcohols. So they're the industries that are most likely to be affected. Now some of them are going to be less affected than others. So where you have a bulk commodity where there is a you know there's a general price, that's probably not going to be affected as much. Whereas areas where there are where they are highly priced sensitive in the market, such as with Australian exports of wine, we're more likely to be affected.

It looks like it could be an administrative nightmare.

It looks like it could be an administrative nightmare.

Well, the Trump government set out to undertake reciprocal tariffs, and when they first announced that over nearly two hundred countries across a roughly around about five thousand different product codes that would lead to a significant you know, two to three million dollars two to three million separate HS codes. They haven't gone down that path because that is frankly impossible to be able to do on an individualized basis. So they have gone down an easier line and they've worked out an average tariff freight for every country. It is not consistent. They have made up the numbers as they go and it's really a mystery exactly how they've come up the numbers.

Well, the Trump government set out to undertake reciprocal tariffs, and when they first announced that over nearly two hundred countries across a roughly around about five thousand different product codes that would lead to a significant you know, two to three million dollars two to three million separate HS codes. They haven't gone down that path because that is frankly impossible to be able to do on an individualized basis. So they have gone down an easier line and they've worked out an average tariff freight for every country. It is not consistent. They have made up the numbers as they go and it's really a mystery exactly how they've come up the numbers.

Would you expect there to be a tariff retaliation from Australia.

Would you expect there to be a tariff retaliation from Australia.

No, I don't think that would be our best interests. We import more from the US than we export in goods to the US. But what we do is the products that we're importing are things such as aircraft so Boeing aircraft for example, are high high technology mining equipment and agricultural equipment, things that are critical to our productive capacity in Australia. So applying a tariff on that would increase our cost of work and lower our productivity and would impact on us some of the other products that we import. If we would apply a tariff on consumer goods, that ultimately leads to inflation and would impact on our consumers and the cost of living. So I wouldn't expect Australia to do that, but I would expect us to probably make a complaint to the WTO.

No, I don't think that would be our best interests. We import more from the US than we export in goods to the US. But what we do is the products that we're importing are things such as aircraft so Boeing aircraft for example, are high high technology mining equipment and agricultural equipment, things that are critical to our productive capacity in Australia. So applying a tariff on that would increase our cost of work and lower our productivity and would impact on us some of the other products that we import. If we would apply a tariff on consumer goods, that ultimately leads to inflation and would impact on our consumers and the cost of living. So I wouldn't expect Australia to do that, but I would expect us to probably make a complaint to the WTO.

Is that much to have any impact or effect at all?

Is that much to have any impact or effect at all?

Well, I think it will in general, because there'll be a number of complaints to the WTO, and it's Australia does uphold the international rules based order, and we might say superficially that the US will do whatever they want. But equally, the Chinese government when they undertook their retaliatory tariffs against Australia after the COVID pandemic, particularly on barley and wine, we resolve that through arbitration and making a formal complaint to the wt So it is the process that we should go down. It will have an impact. The US is likely to ignore it at this point, but overall for the strength of the global system, which we have benefited from significantly from our export growth, we need to go down that path.

Well, I think it will in general, because there'll be a number of complaints to the WTO, and it's Australia does uphold the international rules based order, and we might say superficially that the US will do whatever they want. But equally, the Chinese government when they undertook their retaliatory tariffs against Australia after the COVID pandemic, particularly on barley and wine, we resolve that through arbitration and making a formal complaint to the wt So it is the process that we should go down. It will have an impact. The US is likely to ignore it at this point, but overall for the strength of the global system, which we have benefited from significantly from our export growth, we need to go down that path.

What can Austro exporters do to mitigate the impact of the tariffs.

What can Austro exporters do to mitigate the impact of the tariffs.

So there's a couple of things that we can do. Firstly, not panic. I don't think this is the time to panic, as I said, we are at the lowest rate. We're at ten percent, So there are other countries which have got teriff rates of twenty thirty forty percent. There are opportunities for Australian exporters to still export to the US despite the tariff, and there may be opportunities for new product categories to expand in the US because of these tariffs that are applied on our competitors, making Australian products more competitive in that market. So we shouldn't think that this is a big red door. But separately, there are going to be opportunities for US to replace goods in other markets where other countries retaliate against the US. I'm thinking particularly countries like the European Union, Canada, Mexico, other markets throughout Asia where we have got traditional links but who have been buying a lot of products that we produce, also agricultural mining products and various other manufactured products. There are opportunities for US to stutitute products from the US in those markets and grower exports as well.

So there's a couple of things that we can do. Firstly, not panic. I don't think this is the time to panic, as I said, we are at the lowest rate. We're at ten percent, So there are other countries which have got teriff rates of twenty thirty forty percent. There are opportunities for Australian exporters to still export to the US despite the tariff, and there may be opportunities for new product categories to expand in the US because of these tariffs that are applied on our competitors, making Australian products more competitive in that market. So we shouldn't think that this is a big red door. But separately, there are going to be opportunities for US to replace goods in other markets where other countries retaliate against the US. I'm thinking particularly countries like the European Union, Canada, Mexico, other markets throughout Asia where we have got traditional links but who have been buying a lot of products that we produce, also agricultural mining products and various other manufactured products. There are opportunities for US to stutitute products from the US in those markets and grower exports as well.

Do you see this leading to a world tariff war that no one can win?

Do you see this leading to a world tariff war that no one can win?

So the thing I'd be looking for, We're going to see other countries impose tariffs against the US. The US is essentially imposed two hundred bilateral tariff imposts, so it's not been a broad scale approach. They have gone Australia yours is ten percent, China yours is thirty four percent, Vietnam yours is forty six percent, the EU yours is twenty percent. Each of those countries will make a determination on what they're going how they're going to retaliate. Some of them will determine that it's in their best interest to have a similar tariff rate in retaliation to what the US has applied. What we don't want to see is we don't want to see other countries applying and across the board tariff rate and raising tariffs for every country, because that will cause US problems. And that was what happened in nineteen thirty two when we had the Smooth Hawley Tariff Act in the US, when they arbitrarily increased tariffs. The response from other countries around the world was not just to retaliate against the US the US but raised tariffs across the board, and that led to a shut down in trade and accelerated the impact of the depression and meant that it was a much slower recovery.

So the thing I'd be looking for, We're going to see other countries impose tariffs against the US. The US is essentially imposed two hundred bilateral tariff imposts, so it's not been a broad scale approach. They have gone Australia yours is ten percent, China yours is thirty four percent, Vietnam yours is forty six percent, the EU yours is twenty percent. Each of those countries will make a determination on what they're going how they're going to retaliate. Some of them will determine that it's in their best interest to have a similar tariff rate in retaliation to what the US has applied. What we don't want to see is we don't want to see other countries applying and across the board tariff rate and raising tariffs for every country, because that will cause US problems. And that was what happened in nineteen thirty two when we had the Smooth Hawley Tariff Act in the US, when they arbitrarily increased tariffs. The response from other countries around the world was not just to retaliate against the US the US but raised tariffs across the board, and that led to a shut down in trade and accelerated the impact of the depression and meant that it was a much slower recovery.

Would you be prepared to predict what it's likely to do the cost of living in Monstralia.

Would you be prepared to predict what it's likely to do the cost of living in Monstralia.

At the moment, I don't think it'll make any difference at all to our cost of living as long as we don't impose a tariff, So a retaliatory tariff would be a cost of living issue. But remember this is a tariff on our exports to the US, not on US exports to Australia, and overall we don't you know, our trade with the US is about five percent of our overall trade, so it is not something that should lead to increased inflation. Indeed, if we do have other countries seek to expand market share to Australia, we may see falls in inflation. And you can see that already with areas like electric vehicles. So in recent in the last two years, we've seen an influx of Chinese electric vehicles, which are high quality. They do have the technology and they have been able to provide those vehicles into the Australian market at reasonably affordable prices, much cheaper than Tesla's and various other evs in the market, and so that has been benefiting consumers. There may be other areas where that will occur, but the Australian government also will need to look to make sure that we do not have any dumping of products in areas where we would be injured our own industries.

At the moment, I don't think it'll make any difference at all to our cost of living as long as we don't impose a tariff, So a retaliatory tariff would be a cost of living issue. But remember this is a tariff on our exports to the US, not on US exports to Australia, and overall we don't you know, our trade with the US is about five percent of our overall trade, so it is not something that should lead to increased inflation. Indeed, if we do have other countries seek to expand market share to Australia, we may see falls in inflation. And you can see that already with areas like electric vehicles. So in recent in the last two years, we've seen an influx of Chinese electric vehicles, which are high quality. They do have the technology and they have been able to provide those vehicles into the Australian market at reasonably affordable prices, much cheaper than Tesla's and various other evs in the market, and so that has been benefiting consumers. There may be other areas where that will occur, but the Australian government also will need to look to make sure that we do not have any dumping of products in areas where we would be injured our own industries.

Doctor Nathan Gray, thanks so much for your insight, Doctor Nathan Gray, International Trade and Industry Senior Research Fellow at the University of Adelaide, which has put it into perspective. I think a lot of people are sort of thinking knee jerk reaction, let's get back at them, but that would appear to be not the smart way to go. Eight double two three double O, double O. My number to ring if you have a comment. We're going to take a break for news headlines, then thoughts of nationalizing the wireless steel Works.

Doctor Nathan Gray, thanks so much for your insight, Doctor Nathan Gray, International Trade and Industry Senior Research Fellow at the University of Adelaide, which has put it into perspective. I think a lot of people are sort of thinking knee jerk reaction, let's get back at them, but that would appear to be not the smart way to go. Eight double two three double O, double O. My number to ring if you have a comment. We're going to take a break for news headlines, then thoughts of nationalizing the wireless steel Works.

Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.

Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.

Good Morning, twenty seven minutes to ten on five double A. On this Liberation Day, we're talking about the tariffs. The suggestion is don't panic, no knee jerk reactions, Andrew says re tariffs, I reckon we need to take a breath, pump the brakes and try to avoid sprooking negative speculation. This is also a test for our government. The ball is now in Albow's court. Hi Graham, with Trump's madness, is looking at polarizing his country. And everyone mentioned, where is Russia in his tariff? Or did we ignore or miss it? Well, Brent, no, we didn't miss it because it was certainly not mentioned. In fact, there are no tariffs on Russia. From my belief, sweeping tariffs. According to Donald Trump, our country has been looted, pillage, raped, and plundered by other nations. However, of the dozens of countries, including US allies, Russia isn't on the list. So there you go with friends like the US. As I've said before, eight double two three double double. If you have a comment, would love to hear from you. Well, the embattled Wiles steel Works appears to be in worse condition than previously thought, but Administrator's caught a mentor working to restore it with federal and state government support. There been plenty of expressions of interest from potential buyers and hopes to sell the steel works and the Middleback range iron ore mines by year end. However, former Senator and Jackie Lambey Senate candidate Rex Patrick has some thoughts about it. He joins men are Rex. Good morning to you.

Good Morning, twenty seven minutes to ten on five double A. On this Liberation Day, we're talking about the tariffs. The suggestion is don't panic, no knee jerk reactions, Andrew says re tariffs, I reckon we need to take a breath, pump the brakes and try to avoid sprooking negative speculation. This is also a test for our government. The ball is now in Albow's court. Hi Graham, with Trump's madness, is looking at polarizing his country. And everyone mentioned, where is Russia in his tariff? Or did we ignore or miss it? Well, Brent, no, we didn't miss it because it was certainly not mentioned. In fact, there are no tariffs on Russia. From my belief, sweeping tariffs. According to Donald Trump, our country has been looted, pillage, raped, and plundered by other nations. However, of the dozens of countries, including US allies, Russia isn't on the list. So there you go with friends like the US. As I've said before, eight double two three double double. If you have a comment, would love to hear from you. Well, the embattled Wiles steel Works appears to be in worse condition than previously thought, but Administrator's caught a mentor working to restore it with federal and state government support. There been plenty of expressions of interest from potential buyers and hopes to sell the steel works and the Middleback range iron ore mines by year end. However, former Senator and Jackie Lambey Senate candidate Rex Patrick has some thoughts about it. He joins men are Rex. Good morning to you.

Good morning Graham.

Good morning Graham.

Before we get on to Wiler, first thoughts on the tariffs.

Before we get on to Wiler, first thoughts on the tariffs.

Well, last month Donald Trump drive over us in a big truck on the olimin and steel and this morning he backed over Squired lying down on this, there are lots of things that we could do. Albo has come out this morning suggesting that he's going to take matters to the World Trade Organization. Donald Trump has just the funded that is unlikely to take any ruling from an expert panel in the WTO seriously, and even if he did, the WTO takes years to resolve issues.

Well, last month Donald Trump drive over us in a big truck on the olimin and steel and this morning he backed over Squired lying down on this, there are lots of things that we could do. Albo has come out this morning suggesting that he's going to take matters to the World Trade Organization. Donald Trump has just the funded that is unlikely to take any ruling from an expert panel in the WTO seriously, and even if he did, the WTO takes years to resolve issues.

We should be.

We should be.

Standing much much firmer. There are things that we can do to basically push back. We have been mates, We have been loyal to the United States for eight decades, and this morning we saw how the US has responded to that. Now I might just point out it's Trump, it's not people in the United States.

Standing much much firmer. There are things that we can do to basically push back. We have been mates, We have been loyal to the United States for eight decades, and this morning we saw how the US has responded to that. Now I might just point out it's Trump, it's not people in the United States.

You were saying that there are things that we could do. Would you like to share those thoughts with us?

You were saying that there are things that we could do. Would you like to share those thoughts with us?

Absolutely so. Last month we shipped eight hundred million Australian dollars to the US to help them with their with their building of their shipyards, to deliver a submarine that no one realistically thinks will get delivered. We've got another four billion dollars that we're going to send to the US. We can just stop that. We are not going to get Virginia class submarines. I was at the summit that mouth from Turnbull ran on Monday morning, or on Monday in the National Press Club. Everyone accepts we're not getting those subs. Yet we're just sending all that money. We can stop that. We can stop pying Gap, we can stop Northwest Cape, we can take critical minual exports off the table. We can apply a digital tax to Meta X and Google. Lots and lots of things we can do. If we just sit silently, we're going to get run over again and again and again.

Absolutely so. Last month we shipped eight hundred million Australian dollars to the US to help them with their with their building of their shipyards, to deliver a submarine that no one realistically thinks will get delivered. We've got another four billion dollars that we're going to send to the US. We can just stop that. We are not going to get Virginia class submarines. I was at the summit that mouth from Turnbull ran on Monday morning, or on Monday in the National Press Club. Everyone accepts we're not getting those subs. Yet we're just sending all that money. We can stop that. We can stop pying Gap, we can stop Northwest Cape, we can take critical minual exports off the table. We can apply a digital tax to Meta X and Google. Lots and lots of things we can do. If we just sit silently, we're going to get run over again and again and again.

We got side like Rex, thank you very much for that. I didn't want to have a chat with you regarding that, but it was pretty valuable in Putt and we appreciate it. Yet, let's get back to wireless steel works. How do you assess the situation at the moment? Is the condition improving? Cordamenttha running things well? What do you see as the future?

We got side like Rex, thank you very much for that. I didn't want to have a chat with you regarding that, but it was pretty valuable in Putt and we appreciate it. Yet, let's get back to wireless steel works. How do you assess the situation at the moment? Is the condition improving? Cordamenttha running things well? What do you see as the future?

Look, Quartermantha is running things well, but we need to understand that Cordamantha has a statutory obligation to act in the best interests of the creditors. That's not the same as saying he acts in the national that cord Mentha acts in the national interest. So no criticism of them. They are doing what they're required to do from a statutory perspective. But if we look at what's been laid out on the table by the Labor Party, one point nine billion dollars for a steel works that the state government testified at estimates requires three billion dollars, and we've got no commitment at all from the Liberal Party as to what mister Dutton will do if he's in government, So there's all of uncertainties. In my view, the only certain pathway forward for Whaler is to nationalize it. If we're going to put one point nine billion dollars in and we want surety, I think we simply nationalize this. What I fear is that and this has been sort of talked about by Sebastian Ham's the administrator. We're getting offers. People are particularly interested in the mine expansion program. There's lots of valuable magnetite in the Middle Back Ranges and it could be that someone just targets that. Now the state government will come and say the Wireless Steel Works Act prevents that. There's an indenture that sits on the back of that that says you've got to keep the steel works and the mining the mines together. But we know that Sanjef Gupta had that same indenture requirement and he simply took all out of the mines, shipped it overseas and let the steel works run to the ground.

Look, Quartermantha is running things well, but we need to understand that Cordamantha has a statutory obligation to act in the best interests of the creditors. That's not the same as saying he acts in the national that cord Mentha acts in the national interest. So no criticism of them. They are doing what they're required to do from a statutory perspective. But if we look at what's been laid out on the table by the Labor Party, one point nine billion dollars for a steel works that the state government testified at estimates requires three billion dollars, and we've got no commitment at all from the Liberal Party as to what mister Dutton will do if he's in government, So there's all of uncertainties. In my view, the only certain pathway forward for Whaler is to nationalize it. If we're going to put one point nine billion dollars in and we want surety, I think we simply nationalize this. What I fear is that and this has been sort of talked about by Sebastian Ham's the administrator. We're getting offers. People are particularly interested in the mine expansion program. There's lots of valuable magnetite in the Middle Back Ranges and it could be that someone just targets that. Now the state government will come and say the Wireless Steel Works Act prevents that. There's an indenture that sits on the back of that that says you've got to keep the steel works and the mining the mines together. But we know that Sanjef Gupta had that same indenture requirement and he simply took all out of the mines, shipped it overseas and let the steel works run to the ground.

And you fear that could happen again, Well.

And you fear that could happen again, Well.

There's nothing the government can do to that. And they stood up in Wirra and said the indenture, the indenture is you know, a savior. But that indenture you can drive an iron or truck through. And it only applies at the acquisition stage. And you can have someone walk up and say here's our great plans for whaler. They get past the acquisition stage and then they can do something completely different. And we've seen someone just do that.

There's nothing the government can do to that. And they stood up in Wirra and said the indenture, the indenture is you know, a savior. But that indenture you can drive an iron or truck through. And it only applies at the acquisition stage. And you can have someone walk up and say here's our great plans for whaler. They get past the acquisition stage and then they can do something completely different. And we've seen someone just do that.

So what is the next step. You say, nationalization is the way we should go. A lot of people say, you know, governments have no business trying to get into the steel working business. Is there a happy medium?

So what is the next step. You say, nationalization is the way we should go. A lot of people say, you know, governments have no business trying to get into the steel working business. Is there a happy medium?

Well, people say that about the steel works.

Well, people say that about the steel works.

But you know what.

But you know what.

Our government runs a parcel service, it's called Australia Post. Our government has a shipyard it's called ASC. Our government runs air traffic controls called Air Services Australia. We've got a radar company.

Our government runs a parcel service, it's called Australia Post. Our government has a shipyard it's called ASC. Our government runs air traffic controls called Air Services Australia. We've got a radar company.

We've got a.

We've got a.

Art c looking after railways. Wherever the national interest requires that the government can intervene. And not suggesting that we have politicians running wile that would be foolish. What can happen is we can have the government form a statutory corporation. They appoint a board of experienced people in the steel industry a CEO, and they run the company. But that way, when we invest the money where there's airsuitly surety that we maintain this highly valuable national asset. It's a critical national security and national resilience asset. But we don't lose the money that we simply would otherwise be giving to another corporation to turn it around. Maybe in ten years time, once we've got a new steel works, maybe at that point we can walk away from it with a profit coming back to taxpayers.

Art c looking after railways. Wherever the national interest requires that the government can intervene. And not suggesting that we have politicians running wile that would be foolish. What can happen is we can have the government form a statutory corporation. They appoint a board of experienced people in the steel industry a CEO, and they run the company. But that way, when we invest the money where there's airsuitly surety that we maintain this highly valuable national asset. It's a critical national security and national resilience asset. But we don't lose the money that we simply would otherwise be giving to another corporation to turn it around. Maybe in ten years time, once we've got a new steel works, maybe at that point we can walk away from it with a profit coming back to taxpayers.

We have other steel works in Australia. Why as while a significant and important.

We have other steel works in Australia. Why as while a significant and important.

While there is the only steel works in Australia that deals with large structural steel and also rail. So we've got great companies like Blue Scope in Wollongong, bizz Alloy also in Wollongong. Blue Stope does predominantly sheet steel. Biz Alloy does specialty steel. We cannot lose the ability to build structural steel, we cannot lose the ability to build.

While there is the only steel works in Australia that deals with large structural steel and also rail. So we've got great companies like Blue Scope in Wollongong, bizz Alloy also in Wollongong. Blue Stope does predominantly sheet steel. Biz Alloy does specialty steel. We cannot lose the ability to build structural steel, we cannot lose the ability to build.

Our own rail.

Our own rail.

We've got to. You know, we're really in uncertain times in the geopolitical sphere, not only with sort of China going, but we're seeing Trump retreating and we need to step up. We need to take charge of our own sovereignty. And that that doesn't mean you just buy submarines, tanks and ships. You fix things like fuel security issues, you make sure our industry is resilient. We need to make an investment in our national infrastructure to make sure we can stand on our own two feet. When the proverbial hits the fan, the.

We've got to. You know, we're really in uncertain times in the geopolitical sphere, not only with sort of China going, but we're seeing Trump retreating and we need to step up. We need to take charge of our own sovereignty. And that that doesn't mean you just buy submarines, tanks and ships. You fix things like fuel security issues, you make sure our industry is resilient. We need to make an investment in our national infrastructure to make sure we can stand on our own two feet. When the proverbial hits the fan, the.

State and federal government would say, look, we've already chipped in billions of dollars. That surely should be enough.

State and federal government would say, look, we've already chipped in billions of dollars. That surely should be enough.

The federal government is spending ten billion dollars investing in US shipyards and in UK shipyards. That as a starting point, I think everyone will just go. Why is that sort of money not being directed at a place like Wyler. We've seen in the election campaigns seven billion dollars just being given to Queensland for the Bruce Highway. We've seen another seven billion dollars being given to roads in or Road and rail in Victoria. Governments make investments like this all the time. This is a critical national asset and we can't afford to let it slip away and die. And there's a risk of that happening. And the best way to avoid that risk, and the best way to give surety to all those workers in Wyler and all of the industries that feed off the Wireles steel works is for us to move towards nationalization.

The federal government is spending ten billion dollars investing in US shipyards and in UK shipyards. That as a starting point, I think everyone will just go. Why is that sort of money not being directed at a place like Wyler. We've seen in the election campaigns seven billion dollars just being given to Queensland for the Bruce Highway. We've seen another seven billion dollars being given to roads in or Road and rail in Victoria. Governments make investments like this all the time. This is a critical national asset and we can't afford to let it slip away and die. And there's a risk of that happening. And the best way to avoid that risk, and the best way to give surety to all those workers in Wyler and all of the industries that feed off the Wireles steel works is for us to move towards nationalization.

The CNIC would suggest that if Wyler was in a marginal seat, the money would be forthcoming.

The CNIC would suggest that if Wyler was in a marginal seat, the money would be forthcoming.

Well, you just heard me talking about where they are throwing money around. You know, they're throwing money around in the in the states where the sort of biggest marginal seats are, where all the marginal seats are. All of these, all of these allocations of money is in effect port barreling for the purpose of ensuring that those politicians stay in their jobs in Canberra, not thinking about the people in Wyler who have jobs, have jobs doing real work, really important national capabilities that they're that they're underwriting. So we've got to you know, you know, Wyler is not a case of por barreling. Wyler has come is down on its knees. It does need national support and that's the reason why money has been allocated. It's not a pork barrowing exercise. But what we are seeing happen all around the place is pork barreling and South Australia is just being basically ignored. We've got two marginal seats, Stir and Boothby and they're four hundred kilometers from Wyaler.

Well, you just heard me talking about where they are throwing money around. You know, they're throwing money around in the in the states where the sort of biggest marginal seats are, where all the marginal seats are. All of these, all of these allocations of money is in effect port barreling for the purpose of ensuring that those politicians stay in their jobs in Canberra, not thinking about the people in Wyler who have jobs, have jobs doing real work, really important national capabilities that they're that they're underwriting. So we've got to you know, you know, Wyler is not a case of por barreling. Wyler has come is down on its knees. It does need national support and that's the reason why money has been allocated. It's not a pork barrowing exercise. But what we are seeing happen all around the place is pork barreling and South Australia is just being basically ignored. We've got two marginal seats, Stir and Boothby and they're four hundred kilometers from Wyaler.

Rex always good to chat. Thank you, Graham, Rex Patrick, former senator trying to get back into the Senate, the Jackie Lamby Network Senate candidate for the upcoming election. My number is eight double two three double O double. If you want to comment on the wireless situation, the affairs of the day, the Liberation Day tariffs, I'd love to hear from you eight double two three double do double that number.

Rex always good to chat. Thank you, Graham, Rex Patrick, former senator trying to get back into the Senate, the Jackie Lamby Network Senate candidate for the upcoming election. My number is eight double two three double O double. If you want to comment on the wireless situation, the affairs of the day, the Liberation Day tariffs, I'd love to hear from you eight double two three double do double that number.

Five double A. Mornings with Graham Goodings twelve.

Five double A. Mornings with Graham Goodings twelve.

To ten five double A on this Thursday Morning, or President Trump's imposed a ten percent baseline tariff on all US imports. There's a twenty five percent tax on Australian steel and aluminium exports to the US, and a likely ten percent tax on Australian beef or potentially a ban that is still to be clarified. Well, we've heard what the Prime Minister has had to say about the tariffs earlier. What has Opposition leader Peter Dutton had to say?

To ten five double A on this Thursday Morning, or President Trump's imposed a ten percent baseline tariff on all US imports. There's a twenty five percent tax on Australian steel and aluminium exports to the US, and a likely ten percent tax on Australian beef or potentially a ban that is still to be clarified. Well, we've heard what the Prime Minister has had to say about the tariffs earlier. What has Opposition leader Peter Dutton had to say?

I think, as we've said with the President so before, it's a negotiating position and there's a lot of rhetoric and discussion. But I think in the end what we need to be able to do is to sit down with the administration and negotiate hard on our country's behalf.

I think, as we've said with the President so before, it's a negotiating position and there's a lot of rhetoric and discussion. But I think in the end what we need to be able to do is to sit down with the administration and negotiate hard on our country's behalf.

This was Donald Trump's message to presidents and prime ministers, To all.

This was Donald Trump's message to presidents and prime ministers, To all.

Of the foreign presidents, prime ministers, kings, queens, ambassadors and everyone else who will soon be calling to ask for exemptions from these tariffs, I say, terminate your own tariffs, drop your barriers, and start buying tens of billions of dollars of American goods.

Of the foreign presidents, prime ministers, kings, queens, ambassadors and everyone else who will soon be calling to ask for exemptions from these tariffs, I say, terminate your own tariffs, drop your barriers, and start buying tens of billions of dollars of American goods.

That's Donald Trump. Put up or shut up? What are your thoughts? Eight double two three double o double oh, Laurie, good morning to you.

That's Donald Trump. Put up or shut up? What are your thoughts? Eight double two three double o double oh, Laurie, good morning to you.

Good morning. Look, the reality is that he's saying exactly what he's saying. If we negotiate with him and find out what tariffs we've applied to American products and then say right, well we will drop those if you drop that, that's exactly what he will do. He said that from day one. He said that, from the very first day he was elected. You put tariffs on my country, I'm going to put tariffs on your country. We've screened Blue Murder over the aluminium and steel tariffs. But did we go back to him and say, hey, you've put this tariffs on, what are we doing? The course you put that on there, and we should have looked at it at that time. And now, of course he's expanded it because we've not done anything about it. We've not taken tariffs away, we've not reduced tariffs. They need our meat. They don't produce enough meat themselves. The other aspect, of course, is that we talk about dumping. People talking about dumping earlier on. We have countries that dump. There's stuff here. They can't done it directly, so they might send it to New Zealand or to another country where it gets passed and then dumped onto US. We need to have a trail of products where it comes from. If it comes from New Zealand, where did New Zealand get it from? If it came from Japan, well where did Japan get it from? We've got to go back to the source of where it came from, so that we're not getting five tons from there and five tons from there five times from there. We're still getting done, but it's been done via other countries.

Good morning. Look, the reality is that he's saying exactly what he's saying. If we negotiate with him and find out what tariffs we've applied to American products and then say right, well we will drop those if you drop that, that's exactly what he will do. He said that from day one. He said that, from the very first day he was elected. You put tariffs on my country, I'm going to put tariffs on your country. We've screened Blue Murder over the aluminium and steel tariffs. But did we go back to him and say, hey, you've put this tariffs on, what are we doing? The course you put that on there, and we should have looked at it at that time. And now, of course he's expanded it because we've not done anything about it. We've not taken tariffs away, we've not reduced tariffs. They need our meat. They don't produce enough meat themselves. The other aspect, of course, is that we talk about dumping. People talking about dumping earlier on. We have countries that dump. There's stuff here. They can't done it directly, so they might send it to New Zealand or to another country where it gets passed and then dumped onto US. We need to have a trail of products where it comes from. If it comes from New Zealand, where did New Zealand get it from? If it came from Japan, well where did Japan get it from? We've got to go back to the source of where it came from, so that we're not getting five tons from there and five tons from there five times from there. We're still getting done, but it's been done via other countries.

Has Australa got any tariffs on the US? I know we're what are they?

Has Australa got any tariffs on the US? I know we're what are they?

Well, that's the point. I don't know the exact ones. I know there was a wine one. There's a number of other products. I think there's some stuff on steel too. We're not a complete when they say we've got free trade agreement, it's not on everything. If it was a free trade agreement completely, it wouldn't be putting tariffs on its.

Well, that's the point. I don't know the exact ones. I know there was a wine one. There's a number of other products. I think there's some stuff on steel too. We're not a complete when they say we've got free trade agreement, it's not on everything. If it was a free trade agreement completely, it wouldn't be putting tariffs on its.

Yeah, well we'll certainly look into that. I know we've banned their beef. That that was because they had an outbreak of mad count disease, and that was for health and safety reasons.

Yeah, well we'll certainly look into that. I know we've banned their beef. That that was because they had an outbreak of mad count disease, and that was for health and safety reasons.

But there is that ongoing is that the mad cow disease still applied in America as they still have the problem. Why haven't we listened If they don't have that problem.

But there is that ongoing is that the mad cow disease still applied in America as they still have the problem. Why haven't we listened If they don't have that problem.

Anymore, well, maybe they haven't imposed strict enough conditions on the health and safety there. In terms of setting a standard there. It must be a benchmark of a level that you have to get to before exports come. And Australia would set a benchmark. And if the US doesn't measure up to it, well we don't allow their beef into the country.

Anymore, well, maybe they haven't imposed strict enough conditions on the health and safety there. In terms of setting a standard there. It must be a benchmark of a level that you have to get to before exports come. And Australia would set a benchmark. And if the US doesn't measure up to it, well we don't allow their beef into the country.

And that's fair enough. So what parts of America have the problem and our other parts of America clean where they do have that quality. Why is it a blanket bound.

And that's fair enough. So what parts of America have the problem and our other parts of America clean where they do have that quality. Why is it a blanket bound.

Upon American beef?

Upon American beef?

Yep, no fair point. Good on your lorry. We will look in and see exactly what sort of tariff's Australia has imposed on the US. I thought because of the free trade agreement there were no tariffs. Maybe I'm mistaken. I don't think there were any tariffs coming from America to Australia before just because of the free trade agreement. But we will need to look into that here we good morning, grime.

Yep, no fair point. Good on your lorry. We will look in and see exactly what sort of tariff's Australia has imposed on the US. I thought because of the free trade agreement there were no tariffs. Maybe I'm mistaken. I don't think there were any tariffs coming from America to Australia before just because of the free trade agreement. But we will need to look into that here we good morning, grime.

Just go back a few decade. America's put a lot of money trying to be the sovereign nation around the world, kind of out out to China to speak, but doing their perspective religious things to try and savior the country's Afghanistan and gone back to the current wars of Ukraine and Israel, pouring billions and billions into the wars to find the bombs. And as you said to the Ukraine a while back, it's time you want to share your minerals or some of your property and repaying some of our debts because at the moment, I believe Berica, I've got thirty eight trillion dollars in debt. You can't keep borrowing money without paying back your bank stuff we're borrowed it from without some integrated to time barrier. They want their money back now. So what they're doing now with this pariffing is imposed Paris, try and get money back into America. Let it on the job network and make their own product. But they're going to cut their own noses, of their own faces off, because they only to send their price up into recession. And I'll give you, give me play stub Australian beef sought after beef to make and burgers and they love it. America. So the Burgi has becomes too dear. In America, they have one product on a food chain, it can be two dear. Now what instead of Fitzpatrick said earlier with your with his comments about submarines where there's a lot of components that have made around the world, let alone Australia. The aluminium steel that is worth setting over. If that's going to be have the fortitude of a tariff on the still that goes over there, it will probably help build the submarines. If we ever get them help build the submarines, then they should be extent from the from the contract. But at the same time, I think what his parents said about the submarines to just delete them. The other war defense at the moment much cricker to build much more or supposing to water fence and I'll go a stilth bomber untectables.

Just go back a few decade. America's put a lot of money trying to be the sovereign nation around the world, kind of out out to China to speak, but doing their perspective religious things to try and savior the country's Afghanistan and gone back to the current wars of Ukraine and Israel, pouring billions and billions into the wars to find the bombs. And as you said to the Ukraine a while back, it's time you want to share your minerals or some of your property and repaying some of our debts because at the moment, I believe Berica, I've got thirty eight trillion dollars in debt. You can't keep borrowing money without paying back your bank stuff we're borrowed it from without some integrated to time barrier. They want their money back now. So what they're doing now with this pariffing is imposed Paris, try and get money back into America. Let it on the job network and make their own product. But they're going to cut their own noses, of their own faces off, because they only to send their price up into recession. And I'll give you, give me play stub Australian beef sought after beef to make and burgers and they love it. America. So the Burgi has becomes too dear. In America, they have one product on a food chain, it can be two dear. Now what instead of Fitzpatrick said earlier with your with his comments about submarines where there's a lot of components that have made around the world, let alone Australia. The aluminium steel that is worth setting over. If that's going to be have the fortitude of a tariff on the still that goes over there, it will probably help build the submarines. If we ever get them help build the submarines, then they should be extent from the from the contract. But at the same time, I think what his parents said about the submarines to just delete them. The other war defense at the moment much cricker to build much more or supposing to water fence and I'll go a stilth bomber untectables.

Yeah, and we don't want to be waiting twenty or thirty years. Good on your UI. From the text line, it sounds like we should be building so new, cheap, reliable, quick coal powered electricity supply, just like other places eg. China. So our big tough politicians tell us how they are going to stand up for Austrata against Trump's tariff war. Just how will you do that? Messrs Albanezi and Dutton as always long on rhetoric, short on detail. No one believes either of you, so says Kevin, we still need to be careful. We don't want to have a knee jerk reaction. I mean, Donald Trump has been planning this for some time. He's kept it very secret. Nobody has had a clue other than the fact tariff's would be imposed, what level they would be into which countries. It was announced only a few hours ago. I think all our leaders of all persuasions have to be guarded any knee jerk reaction saying will automatically, you know, duplicate those tariffs against you. I mean, that's a battle we cannot possibly win. When you're taking on a schoolyard bully at that kind, we can't win that way. We have to be strategic, we have to be clever, and there are ways and means of doing it. But just sort of slapping tariffs on that is not going to be good. I mean, I still want to see because I think the European Economic Union and China will impose tariffs back on the US, and that is going to cause an awful lot of trouble for the US economy, and that will rebound on Donald Trump. I know he is hoping that the car industry will be revitalized and other industries will be revitalized, and big industry from other countries will start up operations in the US and that will generate jobs and lots of money for the economy. But in the interim, there will be a lot of pain because with tariff's coming on from all over the world, that means everything you buy, and I do mean everything is going to be so much more expensive. Rewiler Rex is correct. Federal government should work in partnership with the private sector and scrap wireless steel works and start a brand new state of the art high time steel works and export full range of steel products globally. That does make sense, Andrew says weeks ago, with tariff's pending, I said we should ditch orcus. Today after what happened, is the day Elbow should ditch Orcus or somehow use it as a leverage to reduce tariff's on Australia. Yeah, and it's the time not to be you know, hairy Chester and Ah that's it. We're going to get back at you. We have to be strategic about this. You know it's not going to make a difference. The tariffs are going to come on. We could not get them lifted and Donald Trump is not going to be You're not going to steer him down. Let's face it, he's the bully in the schoolyard. We have to be strategic. We have to be clever and that means taking a little time, whether it be a few days, a few weeks, or a month or two. We want the right outcome for Australia. That is not showing that we're just trying to be bully boys or retaliate to the bully boy, but be very clever so Australia and Australians win back. After the News.

Yeah, and we don't want to be waiting twenty or thirty years. Good on your UI. From the text line, it sounds like we should be building so new, cheap, reliable, quick coal powered electricity supply, just like other places eg. China. So our big tough politicians tell us how they are going to stand up for Austrata against Trump's tariff war. Just how will you do that? Messrs Albanezi and Dutton as always long on rhetoric, short on detail. No one believes either of you, so says Kevin, we still need to be careful. We don't want to have a knee jerk reaction. I mean, Donald Trump has been planning this for some time. He's kept it very secret. Nobody has had a clue other than the fact tariff's would be imposed, what level they would be into which countries. It was announced only a few hours ago. I think all our leaders of all persuasions have to be guarded any knee jerk reaction saying will automatically, you know, duplicate those tariffs against you. I mean, that's a battle we cannot possibly win. When you're taking on a schoolyard bully at that kind, we can't win that way. We have to be strategic, we have to be clever, and there are ways and means of doing it. But just sort of slapping tariffs on that is not going to be good. I mean, I still want to see because I think the European Economic Union and China will impose tariffs back on the US, and that is going to cause an awful lot of trouble for the US economy, and that will rebound on Donald Trump. I know he is hoping that the car industry will be revitalized and other industries will be revitalized, and big industry from other countries will start up operations in the US and that will generate jobs and lots of money for the economy. But in the interim, there will be a lot of pain because with tariff's coming on from all over the world, that means everything you buy, and I do mean everything is going to be so much more expensive. Rewiler Rex is correct. Federal government should work in partnership with the private sector and scrap wireless steel works and start a brand new state of the art high time steel works and export full range of steel products globally. That does make sense, Andrew says weeks ago, with tariff's pending, I said we should ditch orcus. Today after what happened, is the day Elbow should ditch Orcus or somehow use it as a leverage to reduce tariff's on Australia. Yeah, and it's the time not to be you know, hairy Chester and Ah that's it. We're going to get back at you. We have to be strategic about this. You know it's not going to make a difference. The tariffs are going to come on. We could not get them lifted and Donald Trump is not going to be You're not going to steer him down. Let's face it, he's the bully in the schoolyard. We have to be strategic. We have to be clever and that means taking a little time, whether it be a few days, a few weeks, or a month or two. We want the right outcome for Australia. That is not showing that we're just trying to be bully boys or retaliate to the bully boy, but be very clever so Australia and Australians win back. After the News.

Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.

Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.

Good morning, twenty minutes past ten, five Double A on a momentous morning. We've been talking tariffs, but you don't need to keep it just to that. There are a whole range of issues that you might like to talk about. We're going to talk about the impossible fifty cent public transport fairs that the Greens have been pushing for the upper houses past, but is it likely to go past the lower House. We'll find out as the day progresses. Dave, good morning, Good morning, Yeah, well thanks.

Good morning, twenty minutes past ten, five Double A on a momentous morning. We've been talking tariffs, but you don't need to keep it just to that. There are a whole range of issues that you might like to talk about. We're going to talk about the impossible fifty cent public transport fairs that the Greens have been pushing for the upper houses past, but is it likely to go past the lower House. We'll find out as the day progresses. Dave, good morning, Good morning, Yeah, well thanks.

Hey, I just want to point out that we have a tariff as well on America on everything that we get off from. It's called aur GST, which is ten percent as well, so Trump saying well, tactical, it's it's you know, we've got it on them as well, so it's not free trade. And obviously Russia doesn't even trade, so but they don't have tariffs on America. Do you know what I mean?

Hey, I just want to point out that we have a tariff as well on America on everything that we get off from. It's called aur GST, which is ten percent as well, so Trump saying well, tactical, it's it's you know, we've got it on them as well, so it's not free trade. And obviously Russia doesn't even trade, so but they don't have tariffs on America. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah, I'm bit amused about the GST. You mean because in Australian indes he pays GST. Are they passing that on to America? Is that what you suggested?

Yeah, I'm bit amused about the GST. You mean because in Australian indes he pays GST. Are they passing that on to America? Is that what you suggested?

They are classing that as our tariff. Yes, that's ten percent, so that's why we get.

They are classing that as our tariff. Yes, that's ten percent, so that's why we get.

Ten percent now oh okay, well they didn't spell it out, but then again Donald Trump hasn't spelled it all out. Thanks for that. Good on your Dave out to have it to Yankalilla and Peter.

Ten percent now oh okay, well they didn't spell it out, but then again Donald Trump hasn't spelled it all out. Thanks for that. Good on your Dave out to have it to Yankalilla and Peter.

Hey, I'd just like to.

Hey, I'd just like to.

Say that I think we all need to relax about the tariff situation. I see it that This is payback. Donald Trump's not silly. He knows that our Prime Minister Albanezi doesn't like him, and he's slagged him in the past, along with Kevin Rudd, and I think this is the opportunity to take.

Say that I think we all need to relax about the tariff situation. I see it that This is payback. Donald Trump's not silly. He knows that our Prime Minister Albanezi doesn't like him, and he's slagged him in the past, along with Kevin Rudd, and I think this is the opportunity to take.

A little bit of a blow back.

A little bit of a blow back.

I'd relact them, and I reckon when the coalition formed government, which I reckon is going to happen, Peter Dutton would be a far better negotiator. And I find it strange that we want to chet their beef anyway, a little bit of their beef. But I think we just need to wait till that occasion occurs, and I think all this will be behind out.

I'd relact them, and I reckon when the coalition formed government, which I reckon is going to happen, Peter Dutton would be a far better negotiator. And I find it strange that we want to chet their beef anyway, a little bit of their beef. But I think we just need to wait till that occasion occurs, and I think all this will be behind out.

Good on you, Peter, Yeah, I hope you're right. I do wonder why the beef ban has been kept so long, because it was imposed for a very good reason, the mad car disease that was rampant in America at the time we're banned beefed. Does mad car disease still exist in America? Why haven't we left of the ban? Have we set standards that the US doesn't measure up to. We will investigate that a little further eight double two three double O double If you want to comment on that at twenty two past ten. Well, I think we all would appreciate a cut in prices somewhere along the line. You use a republic transport, how would you feel about fifty cent fares across the board? Well, it's happening in Queensland, it's happened elsewhere. What about in Southeastralia? Well, the Greens have been pushing for it, and I believe it has passed the Upper House. Joining me in now is Jeans MLC, Robert Simms. Robert, good morning to.

Good on you, Peter, Yeah, I hope you're right. I do wonder why the beef ban has been kept so long, because it was imposed for a very good reason, the mad car disease that was rampant in America at the time we're banned beefed. Does mad car disease still exist in America? Why haven't we left of the ban? Have we set standards that the US doesn't measure up to. We will investigate that a little further eight double two three double O double If you want to comment on that at twenty two past ten. Well, I think we all would appreciate a cut in prices somewhere along the line. You use a republic transport, how would you feel about fifty cent fares across the board? Well, it's happening in Queensland, it's happened elsewhere. What about in Southeastralia? Well, the Greens have been pushing for it, and I believe it has passed the Upper House. Joining me in now is Jeans MLC, Robert Simms. Robert, good morning to.

You, Good morning Graham, and good morning to your listeners.

You, Good morning Graham, and good morning to your listeners.

The Upper House has seen the benefit of fifty cent to public transport fees. Where do you or where do you think it will go? Now? Do you think it's got a life?

The Upper House has seen the benefit of fifty cent to public transport fees. Where do you or where do you think it will go? Now? Do you think it's got a life?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Look that's right, Graham. So yesterday I'm moved a motion in the Upper House of behalf for Greens calling for the government to fund a six month trial of fifty cent public transport fairs as part of their next budget. And it was supported in the Upper House, although the Labor government indicated they don't support it, and now it we'll go to the government to of course consider their position. Now, I think this really demonstrates momentums building for this change. Because we saw a few weeks ago the Adelaide City Council pass the resolution. We've now got the upper house of State Parliament, which comprises of a range of different political parties all coming together to fack this. So now really the ball was in the government's court. I think they've got a real opportunity here with their next budget to provide cost of living relief to families by flashing public transport fares, but also to do something really good for the environment in terms of reducing congestion on our roads and reducing carbon emissions by getting more people onto public transport.

Look that's right, Graham. So yesterday I'm moved a motion in the Upper House of behalf for Greens calling for the government to fund a six month trial of fifty cent public transport fairs as part of their next budget. And it was supported in the Upper House, although the Labor government indicated they don't support it, and now it we'll go to the government to of course consider their position. Now, I think this really demonstrates momentums building for this change. Because we saw a few weeks ago the Adelaide City Council pass the resolution. We've now got the upper house of State Parliament, which comprises of a range of different political parties all coming together to fack this. So now really the ball was in the government's court. I think they've got a real opportunity here with their next budget to provide cost of living relief to families by flashing public transport fares, but also to do something really good for the environment in terms of reducing congestion on our roads and reducing carbon emissions by getting more people onto public transport.

Have you done the numbers? How much can people or families expect to save?

Have you done the numbers? How much can people or families expect to save?

Yeah, so over a six month period, your average family would save around seventeen hundred dollars in a six month period. That's assuming that they use public transport as five days a week. So you know, that's a pretty big saving in the middle of a cost of living crisis. Now, in their last budget, the mal Anaskisk government actually hiked up public transport fares by fifteen cents, so I think the fares now sit around four dollars ten now you know, that's a lot for a single trip. And really other states have been reducing public transport fairs. So if you're a South Australian and you take the basket or the train to work, you're actually paying more than most people into state was using public transport. That's got a shift and the government really i think needs to be looking at what other states are doing, in particular looking at Queensland and saying, okay, how can we make this happen here. There's a lot of support for it in the community and a lot of support for it in the parliament.

Yeah, so over a six month period, your average family would save around seventeen hundred dollars in a six month period. That's assuming that they use public transport as five days a week. So you know, that's a pretty big saving in the middle of a cost of living crisis. Now, in their last budget, the mal Anaskisk government actually hiked up public transport fares by fifteen cents, so I think the fares now sit around four dollars ten now you know, that's a lot for a single trip. And really other states have been reducing public transport fairs. So if you're a South Australian and you take the basket or the train to work, you're actually paying more than most people into state was using public transport. That's got a shift and the government really i think needs to be looking at what other states are doing, in particular looking at Queensland and saying, okay, how can we make this happen here. There's a lot of support for it in the community and a lot of support for it in the parliament.

Too, but there would come at a cost. I mean, it does provide a revenue stream for the state government.

Too, but there would come at a cost. I mean, it does provide a revenue stream for the state government.

Well not really, because of course there would be a cost, but public transport is already heavily subsidized by government and so this really just is an extension of that principle. And whilst it might cost a little bit initially, over a long period of time, there's a significant as saving. That's more money for families to be able to spend in terms of supporting local businesses. For that money we're moving into the economy elsewhere. But also it's less wear and tear on our roads. It puts less of an impulse on our road infrastructure, and that also is a saving too, So you know, it's one of those things where sometimes you need to make an initial investment to see the long term benefit.