On Friday's Mornings with Eric and Brigitte, we are privileged to have in studio licensed professional counselor, Marti Wibbels, who shares that music can counsel us in numerous ways; its benefits are immeasurable. Here are a few of them: music reminds us of God's character, kindness, and power (2 Chr 20); music offers comfort and hope (Psalm 40:3); music reminds us we're never alone: "The Lord will command His lovingkindness in the daytime; and His song will be with me in the night, a prayer to the God of my life" (Psalm 42:8).
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Music has a way of ministering to our hearts. We've been talking about that already on this day, and we're going to continue that conversation with Marty Whipple, who is with us, joins us regularly. Marty, thank you so much for for being back in studio. We appreciate it.
Thank you. Bridgett, it's great to be with you.
You know, you were coming in and this just this happened yesterday to me. And it had nothing to do with you coming here. It was just the way I was listening to a song and I was going through a school zone. Told the story earlier, slowed down some, and as I was slowing down, a lyric just pounded in my head. And I've heard the song hundreds of times, and for this moment it hit me. I went, oh wow, that was a great lyric, and it really affected me. And I talked about the beauty of repetition. And we're going to talk about music today. And I think there's a lot to be said about it, but it can really help our mindset or our our understanding of where we are in a certain situation. Music has a way to speak to us that almost really because it combines so much in it, right? I mean, it's the lyric, it's the the medley, it's the instrumentation. There's just so much going on that all of those things can affect us in certain ways, can it?
Absolutely. And you think about it, the music, um, is precise because it has to be played orderly. And our God is a God of order. So the counting of music impacts one part of our brain. But then the emotion of music, music is really the language of emotion. So as we listen to it, it's a full brain experience and we can get new insight, we can grow, it can help us in many ways that we aren't even aware of.
It can point us to who God is. Obviously the music we play here on Moody Radio, but we think about hymns. How sometimes we hear stories of Alzheimer's patients who can't remember their family members. But yet you start playing amazing Grace and they come alive. I mean, music is deep, deep in our hearts and our souls.
Yeah, and it's how it impacts the brain as well. So music reminds us of God's character, his kindness, his power. Remember in Second Chronicles 20, when King Jehoshaphat found out three armies were descending on Jerusalem? He was afraid and turned his attention to seek the Lord. But then what he told his people after he prayed and fasted was, put your trust in the Lord. And then they began singing and praising. And then God defeated the armies coming against them. So how often do we miss the joy of walking with God? Because we don't sing praise to him before whatever it is happens?
And it's not just that you have a quote in here and the lady says, even humming Winnie the Pooh, you know, dun dun dun dun Then that'll just cheer up your day. Just something from your childhood that you remember. I'm just a little black rain cloud floating among the honey tree. I mean, those songs from even Winnie the Pooh just kind of put a smile on your face.
Yeah, and that was the late, wonderful Edith Schaeffer, who, with her husband Francis, Doctor Francis Schaeffer, founded Labrea and wrote many books. And in her book Forever Music, she said, you or I may never have played an instrument, but we do carry our voices as instruments. We don't need to be opera singers to sing familiar songs. And I loved in her book how she talked about one thing we've lost in modern culture is just the simple joy of sharing music together. You don't have to be a professional music to musician. Sorry to have a group of friends over and just get out the piano or violin or something and enjoy the music.
So often in Scripture we're pointed to music. We're pointed to singing. I think of Psalm 40, verse three, which you reference here, where it says he has put a new song in my mouth.
Mhm, mhm. Yeah. And you know when we all remember Covid right. Um, during that time it was a very difficult time for us in the counseling profession, just because of the sheer volume of work we did. Some weeks I would turn away 30 people. I wasn't able to add to my caseload, and of course I referred them to other people. But at the end of that time, I was really exhausted emotionally. And one day I said to my husband, let's go to the market in West Palm, you know, the green market. Yeah. And we got there and we heard this amazing music and just found a place to sit down and listen to the Lubben brothers, who we'd never heard before. And then we went to their next performance and their next performance, and the music got there. So skillful. They're all trained in classical music, but they're folk musicians of the most excellent variety, and God used it to restore my soul during that dark time. And it wasn't that they were playing hymns, they were playing folk music. But then I came to Eric and Bridget, I think, and I said, you know, it would be good for us to have a festival of joy where we change the narrative for people after this dark season of Covid. And Eric said to me, are they Christians? And we we 100% knew they were Christians, even though we hadn't had a conversation with them about their faith. So then we had that conversation, and they're all very deeply committed Christians. Um, and so some of you remember going to the Festival of Joy, and that was an amazing time for us here in South Florida. Hundreds of people came and we did, I believe, change the narrative. Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely. And okay, so we want to get to the music, right? And you have some of their songs. And again, you've said that okay. By the way, takes the word healing (561) 737-6035. The PDF we have listed has some of these songs available for you to go listen to on YouTube so you can do that when you get the PDF. There's links to all of these, but you said you've at times even had these songs, and you ask people to listen to it to see how it will impact them, right?
Like if a couple comes in and their relationship is just kind of apathetic, they don't have the excitement in their relationship anymore. They're detached from each other, I might say, how would you like to listen to a song? And then I play true Love Always Stays. Can we listen to that now and then? We'll talk about it a little bit.
Believe it or not, we have that all queued up for you, Marty.
Amazing. You are just amazing.
The love and brothers true love always stays.
I promise to listen.
I promise I'll wait. I promise to sit till you're okay.
I promise to be here. I promise I'll stay. I promise I'll keep my promises. Cause, sweetheart, love don't always feel like love. And giving it will hurt you more than giving up. And sweetheart love. Don't always ask for more. It'll leave you at the door. Just like it's done By true love always stay. True love never.
Needs a just gives anyway. You promised. You're better now.
You promised to change. You promise you'll never be so weak again. Oh, don't promise me anything. Except that you'll stay there no matter what. You'll love me anyway. Cause sweetheart, love don't always feel like love. And giving it will hurt you more than giving. None. And sweetheart love. Don't always ask for more. It'll leave you at the door. Just like it's done before. I do. Love always stays. True love never need to just give anyway. To love always stay.
Loving brothers and true love always stays. Again, ten minutes before eight. I wouldn't put the label Christian song on that, but I would put the label a song about grace. And that is the heart of the gospel, really. If you listen to that song.
And that song really goes with many psychological studies that show when a relationship hits a rough patch, when you're disconnected, if you stay, you can work through it. Don't let how you're feeling today or this week decide what you do. Let God decide what you do, and you really see in that song how it integrates the left hemisphere of the brain, the logical analytical processes and the right hemisphere that creative. Do you hear that? The beautiful way the violin is woven in, etc.. So stay. Go to first Corinthians 13. Love is patient. Love is kind. When we do what God designs with love, the feelings follow. So don't give up on your marriage, dear friends. Let God do more than you can. Ask or imagine and stay, stay, stay. It doesn't.
That song doesn't point at you and say you're the problem. It points at me and says, I will be here no matter what. And that's, I think, the big difference.
And I promise I'll keep my promises. And how do we keep our promises? We go to the promise maker, the deliverer, we go to the Lord. And so what the Louvin Brothers music does is it makes us think. And any great art leaves us thinking, hmm.
And it leaves us thinking. And it reminds us of truths that we are sometimes forgetting in the emotions of what we're experiencing, doesn't it?
It 100%. Yes, yes.
You know, I think it's interesting how music has the ability to speak for us when we don't have words. And so a song like that, you can take to your spouse and say, I don't know what to say, but this is what I heard and this is what I'm feeling and I can't express this, but would you listen? I think that's what you're saying. It can speak. Music can speak for us. A lot of.
Times. Yeah. And we let it kind of simmer. You know, like good food. You smell it and you savor it. You don't just eat it real fast. So savor this and let God do something new in you. He says, I give you a new song. He makes all things new. And so sometimes we need the gentle nudge of music to help us get there.
This other song that you have told us about, I think we have time to do this. Oh, this other song really is very personal for you, isn't it?
Yes. Well, my husband is like the king of contentment, which means it's very difficult to get gifts for him.
So the the third.
Time we heard the Lebon brothers, I thought, wait, I could see if I could get them to write an original song for Alan. I didn't even know the word for it. So I asked Alan, could you run over to Starbucks? We were in City Place and it turned out to be closed, but it got him away long enough. Um, could you go get a cup of coffee for me? I'd really love that. And he said, oh, sure, because he's a good guy. But while he was gone, I rushed up. The musicians were having a break, and I asked them, what do you call when you write music for someone? I think it was Tommy said, Commission, I said, yes, could I commission you to write a song for my husband? And so through a series of phone calls, I think I tried to explain my husband in our lives, you know, at that point, 50 some years of life together. And they came up with this song and it's like they knew us.
Every time you were sending sending out for coffee, you would call them. So he's like, why does she keep asking for coffee?
There's a lot of coffee.
Well, the nice thing is, as the therapist, you know, I have a lot of confidential calls, so. But with this, I was, like, in our closet, in our master bedroom saying, and I need this. And he that.
He's wondering what is she up to? Well, what she was up to was this next song we're going to hear, it's called This Is Our Joyful Noise by the Louvin Brothers.
We've known joy and we've known sorrow. Had no money for tomorrow. But empty hands. Our hands for blessing. Planting seed for 50 years.
Warned by laughter. Wet with tears. Our broken hearts, our hearts for healing.
So find us where the choir singing Her freedom. Bells are ringing. Roots buried deep in gospel ground. This is the.
Joy we bound.
The King of kings. Who made all things. Made us to dance. Made us to sing. Child of freedom, find your voice.
This is our joyful morning. This is our joyful noise.
Wind in the.
Wheat. In early autumn.
Melodies from God. We caught them and held them in our.
Hearts to keep us warm. So it's been our whole life long.
Every sadness is a song from the God who's always here. So find us where the choir is singing for freedom. Bells are ringing. Roots buried deep in gospel ground. This is the joy we found. The King of kings who made all beings with us to dance. Made us to sing. Child of freedom, find your voice.
This is our joyful north.
This is our joyful noise. So find us where the.
Choir is singing for freedom. Bells are ringing. Roots buried deep in gospel ground. This is the joy we've found.
For King of kings. Who made all things. Made us to dance. Made us to sing. Child of freedom, find your voice. This is our joyful north.
This is our joyful, noise loving brothers.
This is our joyful noise. Point four inches this PDF says, music helps us live in and enjoy living in the present. And even by looking back through that song, it helps us with the now. I think.
Marty.
Absolutely. And we can make the choice to change our world by what we think about. So when we listen to good music that reminds us that God is still on his throne, then we can snuggle up next to the Lord and let him make a difference in our lives.
It also reminds us that we are not alone. Psalm 42, verse eight. That's one of the last points that you remind us of. This verse says, the Lord will command his loving kindness in the daytime, and his song will be with me in the night. A prayer to the God of my Life. Just a reminder you can text healing to get the notes that we're talking about, and actually some links to the music that we've also been playing here from the Lehman Brothers. (561) 737-6035.