You're listening to Moody Radio 89.3 and boy, it's it's good sometimes to take some notes. And I got notes in front of me and it reminds me that we did quite a bit this past year at Moody Radio.

You're listening to Moody Radio 89.3 and boy, it's it's good sometimes to take some notes. And I got notes in front of me and it reminds me that we did quite a bit this past year at Moody Radio.

Brigitte. We did. In fact, this past summer we had a whole museum of the Bible fly away contest. I got to actually go to the museum in Washington, DC, and we did a show live from there. And leading up to it, we got to speak to some of the folks there like Carlos Campo.

Brigitte. We did. In fact, this past summer we had a whole museum of the Bible fly away contest. I got to actually go to the museum in Washington, DC, and we did a show live from there. And leading up to it, we got to speak to some of the folks there like Carlos Campo.

Here's how that conversation went. It is really one of our favorites from this past year. You're listening to mornings with Eric and Brigitte right here on Moody Radio 89.3.

Here's how that conversation went. It is really one of our favorites from this past year. You're listening to mornings with Eric and Brigitte right here on Moody Radio 89.3.

Well, if you visit the Museum of the Bible in Washington, DC, you are going to be provided with an immersive and personalized experience that will help you explore the history, the narrative, and impact of the Bible. Are you one of those museum goers where you have to stop at every plaque and everything to read?

Well, if you visit the Museum of the Bible in Washington, DC, you are going to be provided with an immersive and personalized experience that will help you explore the history, the narrative, and impact of the Bible. Are you one of those museum goers where you have to stop at every plaque and everything to read?

Yes. We went to the Golf Museum Hall of Fame up here in Florida, just north of us here. And I couldn't get out of the Bob Hope section. And now I go to the Museum of the Bible website, and they have Billy Graham's canvas Cathedral. I would be lost in there reading everything and looking through things for quite a while, and my family would be like, oh, we'll be over here, okay. And I'd be like, just come back here and find me that. I love that. About a museum, you can take as much or as little time as you want. You can fly through things, but then when something catches your eye, you can really just kind of sit there and just really learn so much about all different things when it comes to the Bible. What better thing to learn more about, right?

Yes. We went to the Golf Museum Hall of Fame up here in Florida, just north of us here. And I couldn't get out of the Bob Hope section. And now I go to the Museum of the Bible website, and they have Billy Graham's canvas Cathedral. I would be lost in there reading everything and looking through things for quite a while, and my family would be like, oh, we'll be over here, okay. And I'd be like, just come back here and find me that. I love that. About a museum, you can take as much or as little time as you want. You can fly through things, but then when something catches your eye, you can really just kind of sit there and just really learn so much about all different things when it comes to the Bible. What better thing to learn more about, right?

There's so much to see at the Museum of the Bible. We're talking today with the CEO, Doctor Carlos Campo. Carlos, thank you so much for joining us. We wanted to hear your description. How would you describe the Museum of the Bible in just a few words?

There's so much to see at the Museum of the Bible. We're talking today with the CEO, Doctor Carlos Campo. Carlos, thank you so much for joining us. We wanted to hear your description. How would you describe the Museum of the Bible in just a few words?

Well, thanks. Good morning. It's funny because I'm listening to Erick Eric. And I'm thinking to myself, it's one of the reasons we direct people when they first come to start at the top floors, because if you don't, you'll never get to see it. But but you know, in a few words, it really is this place that it's so grandiose. I think it's one of the things that people don't expect. They walk in and they're thinking, you know, gosh, I know there's got to be Bibles that we're going to see and excerpts from Scripture that are ancient and some wonderful things from Israel. But you walk into this extraordinary structure that is, you know, six stories high, seven with our our basement, and it really takes your breath away. I guess that's one of the things I'd say first, and then it's the immersive experiences. You know, you're going to see all those artifacts. We have more artifacts from Israel than any other place except for Israel. So that's certainly something you'll see. But you'll also get to walk literally into the Hebrew Bible and walk through from Genesis through right straight to the end until you hit the the very precipice of the New Testament. And it's so interactive through film and immersion. That's just one experience. We do the same thing with the New Testament. We have a new worship experience that kind of takes you through the very beginnings using music and sound. So as you can tell, it's hard to explain it in just a few words, but it really is an immersive, interactive experience that is really grand.

Well, thanks. Good morning. It's funny because I'm listening to Erick Eric. And I'm thinking to myself, it's one of the reasons we direct people when they first come to start at the top floors, because if you don't, you'll never get to see it. But but you know, in a few words, it really is this place that it's so grandiose. I think it's one of the things that people don't expect. They walk in and they're thinking, you know, gosh, I know there's got to be Bibles that we're going to see and excerpts from Scripture that are ancient and some wonderful things from Israel. But you walk into this extraordinary structure that is, you know, six stories high, seven with our our basement, and it really takes your breath away. I guess that's one of the things I'd say first, and then it's the immersive experiences. You know, you're going to see all those artifacts. We have more artifacts from Israel than any other place except for Israel. So that's certainly something you'll see. But you'll also get to walk literally into the Hebrew Bible and walk through from Genesis through right straight to the end until you hit the the very precipice of the New Testament. And it's so interactive through film and immersion. That's just one experience. We do the same thing with the New Testament. We have a new worship experience that kind of takes you through the very beginnings using music and sound. So as you can tell, it's hard to explain it in just a few words, but it really is an immersive, interactive experience that is really grand.

Can I ask you a very unfair question? Because museums have a lot of things behind closed doors, and you just don't know where to put it yet. What's your favorite artifact that you just don't know what to do with yet?

Can I ask you a very unfair question? Because museums have a lot of things behind closed doors, and you just don't know where to put it yet. What's your favorite artifact that you just don't know what to do with yet?

Well, you know my favorite artifact. And I can say we know exactly what to do with it. But it's coming to the museum this fall, and it's called the Megiddo mosaic. Some people call it the Jesus Mosaic. I don't know if you've read about this, but in briefly, here's what it was. It was it was a floor of a Christian prayer hall. You're both sitting down. This is dated to the third century. So about 235 is what experts say. And it has an inscription on it that says to the God Jesus Christ, it's the earliest reference to Jesus's deity that we think in any form exists today, and it's coming to the museum, this mosaic floor that was donated by a woman worshiping on that floor in the third century. And you're going to all and your listeners are going to be able to see that in the museum this fall. We'll have it there for eight months.

Well, you know my favorite artifact. And I can say we know exactly what to do with it. But it's coming to the museum this fall, and it's called the Megiddo mosaic. Some people call it the Jesus Mosaic. I don't know if you've read about this, but in briefly, here's what it was. It was it was a floor of a Christian prayer hall. You're both sitting down. This is dated to the third century. So about 235 is what experts say. And it has an inscription on it that says to the God Jesus Christ, it's the earliest reference to Jesus's deity that we think in any form exists today, and it's coming to the museum, this mosaic floor that was donated by a woman worshiping on that floor in the third century. And you're going to all and your listeners are going to be able to see that in the museum this fall. We'll have it there for eight months.

Where's this been?

Where's this been?

It's been in Jerusalem, and it was actually in a prison camp in Jerusalem. And as they were doing some excavation, it was discovered almost 20 years ago that this is the first time it's left the country. No one really has seen it in Israel, except for experts. And it's coming right to Washington, D.C., and we really hope that folks will get a chance to see it.

It's been in Jerusalem, and it was actually in a prison camp in Jerusalem. And as they were doing some excavation, it was discovered almost 20 years ago that this is the first time it's left the country. No one really has seen it in Israel, except for experts. And it's coming right to Washington, D.C., and we really hope that folks will get a chance to see it.

That's incredible. So six floors to really uncover so much history about God's Word. And there's exhibits about the power of it. I see right now there's a Billy Graham exhibit right now. It's called the Billy Graham's Canvas Cathedral that's currently being exhibited. What is that about?

That's incredible. So six floors to really uncover so much history about God's Word. And there's exhibits about the power of it. I see right now there's a Billy Graham exhibit right now. It's called the Billy Graham's Canvas Cathedral that's currently being exhibited. What is that about?

You know.

You know.

That really is a testament to Billy Graham's impact. You know, impact is one of the things that we're showing of the Bible, and it was really the hallmark of his ministry in many ways, wasn't it? I mean, extraordinary evangelists. But Billy Graham's commitment to the Bible is so powerful, and that's really what it does. This exhibit holds up the influence of the Bible in his ministry and then his impact, of course, in America. And I know that this touched my life very personally, because one of my brother in laws was at one of those canvas cathedrals and came to the Lord some 30 or 40 years ago, and just incredible man of God. And we've all got those stories with Billy Graham. So that's really what the focus is on that exhibit, and it's truly worth seeing.

That really is a testament to Billy Graham's impact. You know, impact is one of the things that we're showing of the Bible, and it was really the hallmark of his ministry in many ways, wasn't it? I mean, extraordinary evangelists. But Billy Graham's commitment to the Bible is so powerful, and that's really what it does. This exhibit holds up the influence of the Bible in his ministry and then his impact, of course, in America. And I know that this touched my life very personally, because one of my brother in laws was at one of those canvas cathedrals and came to the Lord some 30 or 40 years ago, and just incredible man of God. And we've all got those stories with Billy Graham. So that's really what the focus is on that exhibit, and it's truly worth seeing.

Why DC? Why is this museum? Why is it important for this museum to be in DC? We've got a large nation. There's a lot of different, you know. Hey, we got Orlando here. I mean, why why is DC the place for this?

Why DC? Why is this museum? Why is it important for this museum to be in DC? We've got a large nation. There's a lot of different, you know. Hey, we got Orlando here. I mean, why why is DC the place for this?

Well great question. And frankly, when the Greene family and others were looking at a location for this museum, Dallas was actually the first place that they looked at. But, you know, Harry Hargrave, our most recent CEO and a team found this spot in DC. And you talk about a God moment. We feel like it's not only our nation's capital, but truly a world capital. This is a global museum. These are for believers and non-believers from all over the earth to see the impact of the Bible. But I will also say that there's such contention here in DC where my wife Karen, and I are living, and here's a haven, here's a place to walk into and get away from all of that apolitical. This is a nonsectarian. We don't proselytize at the museum. We simply let the Bible speak for itself and to have it in DC and to have that sort of a we're, you know, we're calling it a river, you know, we're calling it a beacon. And it is all of those things. And I think it just says something to our nation that this is truly part and parcel to who we are as a country and even more broadly to the very globe itself.

Well great question. And frankly, when the Greene family and others were looking at a location for this museum, Dallas was actually the first place that they looked at. But, you know, Harry Hargrave, our most recent CEO and a team found this spot in DC. And you talk about a God moment. We feel like it's not only our nation's capital, but truly a world capital. This is a global museum. These are for believers and non-believers from all over the earth to see the impact of the Bible. But I will also say that there's such contention here in DC where my wife Karen, and I are living, and here's a haven, here's a place to walk into and get away from all of that apolitical. This is a nonsectarian. We don't proselytize at the museum. We simply let the Bible speak for itself and to have it in DC and to have that sort of a we're, you know, we're calling it a river, you know, we're calling it a beacon. And it is all of those things. And I think it just says something to our nation that this is truly part and parcel to who we are as a country and even more broadly to the very globe itself.

Mm. Boy, you know, so what's one of your favorite parts of the museum? One of these collections that are on display or exhibits that we can enjoy if we attend the Museum of the Bible.

Mm. Boy, you know, so what's one of your favorite parts of the museum? One of these collections that are on display or exhibits that we can enjoy if we attend the Museum of the Bible.

Well, Bridget, you're getting now to that personal level. And my wife will probably smile when I say this, but because I've been a literature guy my whole life, the impact of the Bible on literature, we show that as well, on that impact floor and that impact floor not only just shows it in literature, but it shows it in fashion and in the way that the Bible has touched our everyday life in ways that we might not really have thought of. So there's a very personal connection with me, but I'll tell you what. Our grandkids also love to see the Washington Revelations, which is literally a Disney ride that we have taken and put it in the museum. So a lot of folks don't really realize that this is so much more than what you would anticipate. When I say a Disney ride, it's one of those hang on, because it actually moves and takes you to the Washington that you've never seen, even if you've been many, many times, even to the very top of the Washington Monument that has a scripture at the very top. So it's definitely worth seeing.

Well, Bridget, you're getting now to that personal level. And my wife will probably smile when I say this, but because I've been a literature guy my whole life, the impact of the Bible on literature, we show that as well, on that impact floor and that impact floor not only just shows it in literature, but it shows it in fashion and in the way that the Bible has touched our everyday life in ways that we might not really have thought of. So there's a very personal connection with me, but I'll tell you what. Our grandkids also love to see the Washington Revelations, which is literally a Disney ride that we have taken and put it in the museum. So a lot of folks don't really realize that this is so much more than what you would anticipate. When I say a Disney ride, it's one of those hang on, because it actually moves and takes you to the Washington that you've never seen, even if you've been many, many times, even to the very top of the Washington Monument that has a scripture at the very top. So it's definitely worth seeing.

Yeah, Scripture is.

Yeah, Scripture is.

Important for our nation. The Bible is. And as time, you know, I don't have to tell you, you're living in DC. As times seem to go sideways as a nation, we've always looked toward Scripture, haven't we?

Important for our nation. The Bible is. And as time, you know, I don't have to tell you, you're living in DC. As times seem to go sideways as a nation, we've always looked toward Scripture, haven't we?

We have Eric. And, you know, without trying to make it too profound, I honestly believe there's a new narrative that has begun to shift. You all read and report on the same kinds of things that we're looking at, but we honestly believe that the pendulum is swinging back and that Scripture is part of that. You know, we we believe that the the kind of apex of the nones, the nones, the people who say they have no religious affiliation has been hit in America. You know, to see that Gen Z literally dropped 6%, moving back toward a more religious frame of mind. We all we believe that there's a shift that's happening in our nation, and we believe that the Bible can be a leading light in that shift.

We have Eric. And, you know, without trying to make it too profound, I honestly believe there's a new narrative that has begun to shift. You all read and report on the same kinds of things that we're looking at, but we honestly believe that the pendulum is swinging back and that Scripture is part of that. You know, we we believe that the the kind of apex of the nones, the nones, the people who say they have no religious affiliation has been hit in America. You know, to see that Gen Z literally dropped 6%, moving back toward a more religious frame of mind. We all we believe that there's a shift that's happening in our nation, and we believe that the Bible can be a leading light in that shift.

Do you find those type of people you're just talking about? Show up at the museum just because it's in DC and they're kind of curious? Is that part of what you have as kind of a ministry?

Do you find those type of people you're just talking about? Show up at the museum just because it's in DC and they're kind of curious? Is that part of what you have as kind of a ministry?

All the time. I mean, just this week I was standing at the front door and a woman who spoke mostly French and just a little English said, I can't encounter this book in Europe in the same way. And I know it's important historically, and I want to know more about it, and that's why I'm here. We had a muslim family that came last week and said, actually, the father in the group was reading Genesis to his family. About eight of them had shown up and he was reading and he said, I'd never read that. And he said, after he left, after several hours, as a matter of fact, they were there two days in a row. And he said, I believe that every Muslim person should be reading the Bible and understanding its intersection with our own faith and culture. So it was really powerful. And it is amazing how the Bible, if we can just let it speak for itself and get out of the way, will truly be the transformative power that we know that it is.

All the time. I mean, just this week I was standing at the front door and a woman who spoke mostly French and just a little English said, I can't encounter this book in Europe in the same way. And I know it's important historically, and I want to know more about it, and that's why I'm here. We had a muslim family that came last week and said, actually, the father in the group was reading Genesis to his family. About eight of them had shown up and he was reading and he said, I'd never read that. And he said, after he left, after several hours, as a matter of fact, they were there two days in a row. And he said, I believe that every Muslim person should be reading the Bible and understanding its intersection with our own faith and culture. So it was really powerful. And it is amazing how the Bible, if we can just let it speak for itself and get out of the way, will truly be the transformative power that we know that it is.

And that's the key point here that I would love to end on is that, yes, we have a museum of the Bible, but hopefully the point is that the Bible would be alive in our lives, right? That it wouldn't be just something we view at an exhibit, but it's something that we actually live and breathe and, you know, make the foundation of our life.

And that's the key point here that I would love to end on is that, yes, we have a museum of the Bible, but hopefully the point is that the Bible would be alive in our lives, right? That it wouldn't be just something we view at an exhibit, but it's something that we actually live and breathe and, you know, make the foundation of our life.

No question. And I think that's, of course, our greatest mission of all. You know, we want millions of people to come through. We want millions of members to join the Museum of the Bible. But you're absolutely right. It's the transformative power that happens in every person's life that changes people. And then that changes couples, and it changes families and then communities. And and we believe that the Bible has been a powerful, positive, transformative force for the world. That's what we believe. So we're just allowing it to speak and shout in Washington, DC and just privileged to be a part of the mission.

No question. And I think that's, of course, our greatest mission of all. You know, we want millions of people to come through. We want millions of members to join the Museum of the Bible. But you're absolutely right. It's the transformative power that happens in every person's life that changes people. And then that changes couples, and it changes families and then communities. And and we believe that the Bible has been a powerful, positive, transformative force for the world. That's what we believe. So we're just allowing it to speak and shout in Washington, DC and just privileged to be a part of the mission.

Well, again, Bridget, that's one of our favorite conversations from this past year. I know it was one of your favorite trips from the past year. Oh boy.

Well, again, Bridget, that's one of our favorite conversations from this past year. I know it was one of your favorite trips from the past year. Oh boy.

It was so good to be in DC at the Museum of the Bible. If you ever get a chance, make sure you make a stop there. Now we have links to them and you can hear this conversation again at our website. Eric and bridget.org. You're listening to Moody Radio's South Florida 89.3.

It was so good to be in DC at the Museum of the Bible. If you ever get a chance, make sure you make a stop there. Now we have links to them and you can hear this conversation again at our website. Eric and bridget.org. You're listening to Moody Radio's South Florida 89.3.