It’s not a word-for-word doctrine in Scripture—but could certainty itself be sinful? That’s the bold claim made by Brother Lawrence in the Oscar-winning film Conclave. More than just stunning cinema, this moment from Ralph Fiennes’ character ignites a deep conversation about faith, doubt, and the danger of dogmatism.

In this episode, we unpack one of the film’s most provocative scenes and explore what it reveals about the modern Church. We’ll hear from listeners wrestling with theological tension, gray areas in Scripture, and the unsettling (but freeing) idea that not everything is as black-and-white as we’d like it to be.

Expect honest dialogue, fresh perspectives, and maybe even a little controversy. Come ready to think.

Our friend Jaime Buxton from The City Mission guest stars!