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UFC SAO PAOLO NO BUENO! NICK DIAZ? WILDER VS ORTIZ II! MMA VS BOXING IS FOR SUCKERS!

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Published Nov 18, 2019, 6:59 PM

Luke and Brian back in the dungeon for another scintillating edition of Morning Kombat. We first get into the snooze-fest that was UFC Sao Paolo and what, if anything good we can take away from it. Turning our attention to the now infamous Nick Diaz interview and share our thoughts on that strange sit down. Does Luis Ortiz have a shot this Saturday vs Wilder? And guys, if you think a fighter can jump to or from MMA and boxing and be successful, we have a bridge we'd like to sell you.....suckers!

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It is Monday, the eighteenth of November twenty nineteen, and it is time for Morning Combat.

Donk's. My name is Luke Thomas.

I'm the host of this program next to my trustee Seed and co host from CBS Sports, as well as a bunch of podcasts I focused on professional wrestling. I'm sure the one only Brian Campbell. Brian, Oh, I'm fired up.

I'm doing good. You didn't ask me, but I'm gonna tell you right now.

Guys, just a little disclaimer on how when we start this show, Luke really an angry person to begin with. Not a lot of sleep going on for this new dad, So buckle up and get ready.

All right, have you been watching any of the New Disney Plus programs maybe a little of the Mandalorian.

I have friends who have pirated those episodes, So I'm setting up a time with my sons to sit down and really have a bonding experience.

You know, I don't work for them anymore. There was a time though we had a good run. Who give the ship? Just pay for the service. It's cheap to these services I'm paying for. I'm man services are many.

Then we'll get a WW network de zone showtime, YouTube, TV, you can do for you TV Hulu.

You told me before the show you didn't have Netflix. Liar, I said I had.

I said I just watched too much wrestling.

I don't have time all right, But look, Luke can talk about my personal life. These people want to talk about mm an boxing and they need to understand something. Okay, this show is realer than real deal. Hold it field, So all your hookers and hoes know how we feel. We bring it unlike any other luc Okay, I like how.

When you when you put them in normally in the conversation, well normally such as one can say that I enjoy it when you do the prep for the opening like this.

Oh, it's right off the domein right. I don't believe I'm trying to get people to hit that subscribe button. Look, okay, because it's holiday season, you want to pay it forward, you want to spread it wide.

It's the time, right.

I think in all seriousness, since the last episode, we've added about one thousand. So the goal is to get to thirty thousand by January one, twenty twenty.

We're not that far away. I'll tell you what, if we can get to fifty. Look will take us top off, won't.

But that's interesting in any event where if we can get to thirty by thirty k but you have.

To be fighting the Columbian women off of this bomb shelter there, that'd be great.

But the fact.

The fact that even women work on this show, to me is sort of a minor miracle. But okay, seriously, let's get the show started. Subscribe, Please subscribe to get the video a thumbs up. Subscribe, We really appreciate that when you do help us reach our goal. We're not too far away, but we need consistent subs. We go over a week to get there, especially by the way, at this time in the calendar, as you know, the the Thanksgiving Christmas time in the calendar. There are some good shows in December, but we are in a very bad time for the calendar.

Turn shout out to the Honkkah viewers out there as well. Like our producer Jay, so you gotta you gotta, you know.

I don't know why you're as Honaka's started. No, but it's coming up.

I mean it's we haven't even reached Thanksgiving. I'm just saying I don't want Are you one of those assholes. I want a tree for Christmas.

I don't want you.

To be inclusive. I want this to be a show for all people.

Are you one of those assholes who puts a tree up before things give?

So here's the story about me putting up my tree yesterday. Last year, I didn't really give my family a Christmas. I was traveling for many different networks, covering a lot of fights. Dad of the year, I had a vacation planned like the week after Christmas.

The tree barely made it up.

The lights never made up on the house, so I had to do a payback to the wife. So the trees up, the lights are up, and it's barely November.

You see.

I don't usually do that because Thanksgiving is the best holiday ever by far, hands down.

That while I love me some Christmas, I love me some Jesus Christ. To believe that. I want Thanksgiving to have its time.

I need songs, I need decorations, I need, really it to be a I don't care about.

Jesus Christ, but the pagan rituals around him are interesting to me. In any event, let's get to what happened over this weekend. We'll talk about subsequent weekends in just a moment. UFC sal Polo was over the weekend and it sucked.

It sucked a lot.

It was a really really bad card, like any card when the UFC, it had some gems.

For example, I thought.

The win for the Gentlemen's the the Charles Vera, he looked phenomenal, great win for him. Really appreciated him getting wins on the ground. We know about now getting wins on the feet. It's all fun in games. And look in the end, guys are fighting other guys that are that are very good, which makes it very difficult Brian Campbell.

But dude, this event it was terrible. It was not fun at all to why.

I mean we had to even watch a former pomp for pound king go down to a seventh straight defeat.

I mean it was just it was heartbreaking. Well now defeat, it was a tie, right, it was a draw. I talk about Shogun. No, he was never the king. Dana never called him the pump for pound.

Oh who's the king?

The baron era It's still real to me, but I forgot pound tops in any event, we'll get to him a little bit later as well. He he hasn't won a fight in three years.

It turns out.

I think Aaron Bronsiter pointed out his first fourteen years and then he didn't have a loss. His last three hasn't had a win.

Yeah, all right, or you're Ryah Favor once came on my show and said that USADA is to blame for that, but that's his words, not mine.

Or well, you know what could be true in any event, let's get to this sort of let's talk about the event overall. This is one of those events Brian Campbell where like the UFC basically looked at themselves and said, Okay, we don't really have to make this event, but we probably need some kind of presence in the Brazilian market.

They've pulled ten thousand people to that.

And you know what, it would be nice to have an event versus not if we can swing it. And by the way, we owe these people fights, so we just got to keep it.

Like that guy from Uruguay who.

Is we owe this network fights.

It's really more yeah, like we owe content, and we also.

If you don't you know, if you don't make that guy fight, you have to.

Pay them anyway.

So it was just like, let's just do it as a way to satisfy those needs. Other than that it had truly, truly no purpose. And I get that, like not every event can be exciting, But at the same time, beyond what I am articulating, what on earth was the value here?

Well, I think there's three indisputable facts about MMA that we really have to get down to the bottom. Number one, Yoanna was right, brett O Komodo is the best looking at May journalist. And this card sucked the horn, you know what I'm saying. Oh the third on Epstein didn't kill himself, But I.

Mean, this was just bad.

Not only it comes from fascist websites, but not.

Only was it just a bad card, but really, what the main event gave you was an opportunity for Yon Blohowitz to announce himself as a light heavyweight contender title contender is really what I'm saying there. And that sleepy victory over Ronaldo Susa Jaquaray moving up in wait unfortunately to me, hammered home what the UFC had said by booking him in this card.

What am I saying?

Fresh off that knockout against Luke rock Hold, in which he had won five of his last six and really started to put it together. With this division being this shallow, it would not have been an issue to make Yon Blohowitch a title contender right now and putting him in there against John Jones next. What they said by booking him in this card is you're Core Anderson. To us, you're not a title contender right now, so we'll reward you. We'll give you a main event, We'll we'll give you some money.

We'll do that.

Unfortunately, with Jon's performance in the end, it kind of validated that this was a sleepy performance in which he was afraid to pull the trigger because of the potential of Jockuarey taking him down. And this is one of those where it's like, maybe every main event shouldn't be five rounds, like we said last week, because this was just a sparring session that didn't make anyone look good. Yes, Jockeray did many good things to make Ahowitch fight that way, but he's sort of a guy that's gonna look great if you walk in downcoming traffic like lucrocol.

Didn't just throw punches then counter you.

But if not, man, this certainly was not the performance that tells you we should do anything with him but stick him back for the down the cart and I love the guy. Great quote brings the pain if you make him.

The thing that was.

Painful was staying up to watch his card in the end.

Yeah.

So the two points about this that I think matter relative than the main event. One is for Bolhovich, it was already an uphill climb to leap frog Dom Reyes for the title shot against John Jones, which appears we'll talk about that little later, which appears to beforegone conclusion at this moment. So you already had to do a lot to get there possible, but uphill climb. This only cemented the fact that there is no chance Lance and they're gonna now bump him up the queue ahead of Don Reyes. Worse, I don't know if they're gonna give him the title shot no matter who wins there, Right, even if John goes in there and blows the doors off Dom, They're just gonna shuffle Yon next in line.

Why on earth? Like John already is sort.

Of hesitant about fighting Dominic Reyes, now you're gonna have to fight Yon Bohovich for after that.

I mean, I appreciate the fact that this guy has been.

Fighting some of the fights that people have called less than optimal in terms of making huge money and doing a good service for the division. But at some point even I understand his concerns that he'd like a bigger fight, So that was a really bad spot for him, even though he got the W. The second part is for Jacqueray. It's like he was saying Brian all the right things in the week leading up to the fight. I'm not gonna do the Luke rock Hole thing where I shoot off at the mouth and then have to own it, especially against the guy who.

Beat Luke rock Hold.

He was living in the world where Chris Widman had made that leap against Dom Rays and fallen short. And in the end it was like the other half of the Goldilock situation which we mentioned Greg Hardy. Both Wideman and Rockhold came up full of gas vinegar and pissed, but it was all for naught against these guys at two of five.

For a lot of reasons.

We talked about age, mileage and so forth, which Jacquaray has all those. He's going to be forty one in December, so he tried to be cautious, but well, anything fair enough again, you us she probably.

Would have been happy if you'd gon up there and looked pretty good.

But the point being is he went up there to two of five the shadow of what those guys had done, and calibrated away from that. The problem is he had calibrated so far away from that he didn't have enough offensive firepower to really make account in the end. And I know some folks dispute the decision, but it's like, in the end, how upset can you be?

I thought Jacquaray really won.

That, and I thought Blohoach had moments where he looked really good. The problem is it's on you if you want to be a title contender and BA headliner, which they gave him this opportunity to go out there and essentially finish the fighter, or at least look great attempting to do so and coming up short. He essentially went out there and just rolled the dice and said, you know, we'll see what the judges say, and they favored.

Him in the end.

And lastly, it also shows man that's rough.

It shows in the case of Thiago Santos, in the case of Anthony Smith, the reason why the weightcut changed things for them is because they were underperforming due to the physical tax of the weightcut. It's not to say that Luke Rockold and Chris Widman couldn't have benefited from that, They just couldn't benefit from it that late into their career, with that many miles on their career, it just didn't able them to really leverage it while those guys still had a little bit of gasoles in the tank.

So she knows how while that card actually was paced it was.

It was incredibly well yes, and yet it felt like a nine hour show in the.

Yeah or UFC, whoever does the production for it. They did what they could to shuffle things along. I think it was four stoppages on the whole card, but it just didn't matter. One more thing about Showgun. How did you score that fight against Paul Craig? Uh?

It was one of those where I thought it would have been a gift to give it to Showgun. He really came as close as you can come in my mind to having a shot at winning it without really deserving it. So maybe I think the draw was fine in the end, but I think Craig had an opportunity to really show I'm the younger fresher fighter and have those moments and he just couldn't get over that.

He had some moments on the feet because I thought, for sure he's going to drag this to the floor, which he did in the second and third rounds.

Lived in the first showgun just leaning on his ability to take a punch as the only super weapon he has left right and.

That, and also he was trying to throw the trademark ground and pound shot from standing to ground and Craig read it the whole time, so that really never went anywhere.

I didn't do a whole lot for him in the end.

I remember Brendan Fitzgerald, the commentator, was like, uh, I think he said something to the effective And I like Brendan. Brendan's actually a bit of revelation for the UFC. He is a phenomenal comment hair part will hide under a table in a riot. You know who wouldn't, by the way, but I really like Brenda. This is not a critique of him se except when he was like, you know people have been saying to Shogun, well, you know you should hang him up.

Why would you do that, Brendan?

He's taken a nuclear blast worth of damage and he's still out there.

I just watched the Jones fight again. By the way, he took the kind of beating that if he would have walked away from that and just been like I'm done, you'd like, well.

Yeah, he would to get it, dude, I'm telling you it's when his career is over. I'm not a doctor. This is a guest. It's not a bold declaration of the truth. I'm gonna find I think we're gonna find out that that dude took damage years past the point it was advisable, including but not limited to despite the fact that he's still competitive.

A speaks to what a legend he is and b that that division.

I mean, he was all.

Out there yet he was still really setting up his timing and landing some big shots to keep him in the fight. And you're like, Craig, if you're that guy, you kind of have to take care of him.

You want to see the remassed scylin. No, yeah, I mean, I've make it, don't make it.

I really, I.

Didn't mean to open the show and be a hater. By the way, I didn't mean to do that.

Okay, you didn't mean too, That's in your blood, that's how your mental.

I'm the you know, I'm the nice guy of this pair?

Are you this duo?

Yeah, you're the nice guy of the duo, but you have that occasional moment where you get all doctor Jack.

I mean, the four right chords could make me cry.

Look you know what I'm saying. Please die.

All right, let's move on to the next topic. Nick Diaz is back. Brian Campbell sort of, kind of, not exactly sure. So he did an interview with Jolwani of ESPN's or the ESPNMMA show that he does, and it was a long sit down. We're told that it was nearly two hours. They edited it down to forty five minutes. I went over this in detail on my personal radio show. I made a video about it on YouTube. The video itself that I may kind of blew up a little bit. So let's get your take on this first, because I want to deal about the I want to I want to go into the implications of what a return for Nick might mean. But first your impressions of the interview. How is Nick?

I made the mistake, Luke and I didn't even realize it was two hours and the edit the DWNK.

Good god, I feel like two days. I made the mistake.

Of sort of skimming it and then commenting on my own podcast, The State of Combat on CBS Sports Thorough and just being basically like, oh my god, you know he wants to come back against Moles. We know probably, I'll advise, well, let's roll the dice, let's do this, Let's get him in there with Connor, Let's make freak fights, let's have it happen.

Then I went back.

On the long train ride in this morning and watch the entire thing start to finish.

Luke.

Unfortunately, in my younger days, I've been a part of many, many conversations just like the one Ariel and Nick had. Unfortunately, normally those involved a rolled up dollar bill and a handgun. This man should not be anywhere near a fighting cage. And I know that there was sort of a back and forth which you may have been a part of on your YouTube video. I didn't check it out, and people just basically saying maybe that interview shouldn't have aired. Maybe, and then you know the flip side going well, it didn't look that different than normal. He kind of always looks blown. No, there's there's issues. There's a lot of issues right there, particularly, and you know, to cut to the deep of it, because it was it was almost an odd sort of psychotherapy session in a way with Nick just sort of talking in circles. But Rashot Evans, who I do a podcast with each week, just sort of painted a picture to me of, you know, he seems very jealous, very jealous of his brother's success, maybe sort of saying to himself, that's what that was my end game, that's what I should have been all along the multiple comments of that title that BMF to that's my title, you know what I mean, and sort of to see that happen. But at the same time, I also think I saw a guy who's coming to terms with the idea that it is ending. Like the Diaz's brothers have this incredible ability to sort of stand back and not fight when you want him to, and play the business game and play the I'm gonna do things on my own terms game. But eventually that finish line comes, and you know, Nick doesn't certainly doesn't seem as active in the fitness lifestyle as Nate has been, and he certainly doesn't seem, maybe with some excess, anywhere close to being ready to come back to the cage. And I think I saw a guy who's just sort of struggling with who he is. After this, I know he's opening up gyms and that was a big part of what he's talked about. But the idea of flip flocking back and forth if I don't ever want to fight again, but really that's on them all fight tomorrow. It's just sort of it's very das like, but I felt it was much deeper and more disturbing than normal, and so.

I had people reach out to me. I generally agree with your sentiment, but I'd like to hear what you had to say about this. I had people reach out to me and say and he put out a I don't know if you saw this. He put out a subsequent photo thanking Aeriel for the interview, and then in addition, it shows one photo of them just talking to each other, and then the other photo is him lighting up a blunt. It appeared before the who knows when it was, but it appeared to be or the intimation was before the interview, okay, which wouldn't surprise anybody, I don't think. But I hade people reach out to me and say, you just don't know what you're looking at when the guy is high.

I mean, that didn't look like somebody was high. I've been.

I've been high for marijuana eight million times in my life.

I have some idea about what it's like.

Course, not necessarily, but the point being is, certainly I don't want to say that that didn't play a role.

But for folks who say we're overreacting, you say what.

I say, we are reacting because it didn't look like a man who was high.

Pretty much could have been high, that's fine.

But I saw a man who just doesn't seem right mentally, who just seems like, you know, has look a guy's been through the wars, ben in a million fights at a very young age.

I just didn't see a healthy person right there. And that's not somebody that I'm not talking about it.

Here's the thing that we keep doing that we keep using euphemistic language. I want to pin this down a little bit. If we can, I'll give it right back to you. We keep saying not right, didn't look well, seemed off in what way?

Specifically?

I saw a guy who the years of combat has piled up on him, who didn't seem like.

He had any sort of joy for the sport. In the art anymore. Who didn't seem like.

He had a healthy status quo right now. I did see some of that jealousy that Rashad spoke up about. I said, yeah, you know, you're right, I do see that in there. And that's fine. That's not anything overall that that could be damaging.

And look, he's thirty six, and even.

With the inactivity, could he get back into a camp and get into good shape and do well in a fight. Maybe I just think overall, Luke, we're doing dime store psychology here or or sort of you know, pretending to be a doctor and prescribe and diagnosing here. But what I saw there just mentally did not seem like a happy or healthy person, somebody who's in.

A good spot.

So the idea of this spinning into oh, he talked drash about Jorge and Jorge said, let's do it. I'm sort of like, let's not do it. He's been Nick has been away from the game a very long time, and you look back and he really hasn't had a win since twenty eleven, and it has only appeared what twice since twenty thirteen, And I think it's it looks like it's passed him by in many ways mentally, and.

The jealousy thing I think is interesting. I hadn't given him much thought.

I would say there was a like the Diaz brothers, here's a reality about their record. They are right, absolutely right. I've said it on the show. I said it last week. I'll say it again this week. They are absolutely right, both of them, especially Nick, who was sort of a vanguard for leading the change on marijuana culture and acceptance. I remember the Devidoff Commission went to ban him for life and then it was five years. Is insane punishments among other problems. Remember has win over attacking Norri Gilmi had to get vacated, the whole bit. They've had a series of real grievances about they had opportunities in life and sometimes they were given, but they were given with strings attached, or the you know, the winds got vacated, or they got made an example of just it. It didn't go as well as it should have had they been somebody a little bit cleaner cut.

Those are all real grievances.

The problem, it seems to me, as best I can tell, which you're right, we're only doing unter psychology, is that they have turned those grievances into a worldview of pity, and that worldview of pity is now coloring everything. Uh, and it just makes him hard to get out of first gear. For whatever it is, it's sort of the endgame.

It's I mean, we've partied with a lot of people like this and it's fun for a while. And it always then said in the end, And I'm not just gonna sit here and say, he looks like he took the he bumped up, he took the hit he was given, and he bumped again, and then he bumped again. But this looks like a guy who's dabbling outside and things maybe that aren't the healthiest in the idea, I just don't think I want to see him come back. And he and I instantly to make that comparison to not just sit here and sound like abbloviating a hole and go, oh wow, he looked bad to me, didn't he? No, I went back and of course compared to as you know, recent as just last year or two years or three years or four years, and the differ, the difference is massive, Luke. And even if he had gotten high right before that interview, it was much more than that it was really much more than that. It was problematic, And dude, none of us would even be remotely to sit here and try to bring up CTE and try to look at and try to but look, there's a guy who's taking a lot of damage. You fought at a very very very young age, prolifically at a very high level. I just don't see a lot of health there. So long term, could he be a great business owner and live a productive life, I'm sure yes. I just didn't come out of that after actually sitting down and really watching it feeling like he's in a great spot personally or ever, feeling like I need him to fight again.

Okay, so I don't know what kind of spot is in, but I certainly recognize this is what I said as well in reacting to it. To me, it's like, I don't know exactly what's up, but before we do anything, there needs to be additional screenings to determine if he's even in a.

Space to fight it would it be a healthy thing for him?

I mean, fighting is never healthy, but under ordinary circumstances, what if last thing on this will move along because Jay is being awful?

What what if?

What if California or New Jersey did whatever they considered to be their due diligence, two of the tougher commissions, two of the better commissions in the country, and they gave him a license.

Would that be sufficient for you to say.

You mean the same state California that gave Chuck Ladell a license recently?

Okay, But Andy Foster and I talked about it. He suspended him definitely afterwards.

Oh that's great, after he got sent to Hell.

Right, all right? But Andy, look, I don't think you should have been given a license either. But Andy Foster's point is when you denied these guys' licenses, and the way that you do it for California, you're doing it nationwide basically, and you're preventing them from making a living, which I realized on some level as his job. But he agonizes over that, so I can disagree with him without thinking he's negligent.

Yes, I don't think Nick is at a despite everything we just said, is at a massive scare level where the idea of never fighting again is some sort of like we need to stand on the street corner and make sure he doesn't. I do think he needs to find health and happiness first before jumping into any kind of training camp, because I've heard, you know, people make jokes about that interview and be like, man, I needed a joint to be able to understand that.

No, you didn't need a joint, You needed final.

Cut pro to be able to realize that he would start a question and then finish it forty six minutes later. It was all over the place. That was not under any circumstances. Oh that's the Dias's way, or that's the way they talk. No, this was a scrambled mess. This seemed to me anxiety or anything. This was a train wreck. It was when you couldn't turn away from.

But this was to me a combination of diaz isms with some accumulated baggage and weight of life weighing down upon us. And it got to a weird spot in between. So we'll see what happens next. Are you going to wada or tis too very quickly? Because I am not I am not a late scratch. So one of the I guess it's the biggest boxing fight left on the calendar if I'm not mistaken.

Well besides Anthony Joshua Andrew.

Oh that's right, Which is in December, but it's in Saudi Arabia, certainly on this side of the of the world. Let's see, Deontay Wilder is going to put his WC belt up for grabs when he takes on Luis Ortiz for the second time. Brian Campbell, I know you already know this, but for the audience's sake, they fought what a couple of years or third twenty eighteen. So then let's see Deontay had him rocked in the fifth, but Dante dropped him in the fifth. No, and then he got himself rocked in the seventh, and then polished him off in the tenth.

All right. I went back and I watched some of the highlights.

He very look like an instant classic of heavyweight time.

It was amazing, and he was that one. Deontay Wilder was that one punch away. If Louis Ortiz had just connected, it felt like he would have been in there for the huge upset, but he didn't, and then of course Wilder had his way in the end. Now, since then Wylder beat Brazil and then Louis Ortiz has beaten three relative no names. By the way, I went back and watched one of them didn't look awesome, even though he has two decisions in one stoppage since then. Okay, so the question is what is really on the line here. Now we know what the deal is with Tyson Fury and Louis and Deontay Wader. They both had to take two interim fights essentially before reconnecting, so we.

Know that I didn't have to.

But that was in a contract apparently, well, I guess they exercised that clause, all right, so they did.

This is the second of the two four mister Wilder.

Beyond that, though, Brian, I got to tell you how I'm coming at this, because you're somebody who's a little more embedded in boxing certainly than I am. On the one hand, I read people and I went and I watched one of Ortiz's fires. I walked away not impressed at all. I'm like, dude, I think Deanta is gonna blow through this guy the second time, right, And then you think about it, You're like, well, wait a second. Otto Valen, who fought Tyson Fury was not even ranked at all. That dude was hand picked. Now I know in the end he ended up being much more competitive than they.

Thought he was.

Largely unproven, rather than like a like Tom Schwartz who fought Fury before that kind of a joke.

But he was unheralded certainly one way or the other. We kind of know what we're getting with Ortiz. In fact, one of the docks against him is that he's a little bit long in the truth, a little bit older mane. We might still have some power, but doesn't have the speed, doesn't have the movement anymore that maybe he once did for a bigger Cuban boxer.

The power is the last thing to go. He's got the power.

He's got the power. But here's what I would say.

I can't decide if this is some kind of easy setup rematch for Deonte or what some of the other folks are saying, which is Vauleen wasn't supposed to do anything and he did, and unlike Valeen, Ortiz is ranked what six than the division depending on where you look, certainly a top ten heavyweight.

So which one is it? Brian Campbell?

Is this the challenge that Deontay Wilder is overestimating or is he knows exactly what he's crazy?

As a boxing fan, we go through these weird sort of hamster wheel machinations from when a fight is announced until fight night, and when this one was announced because we want the Fury rematch so bad for Wilder, it was sort of like, okay, you know, the first one was really exciting, this will be fun, but why are we doing this and is there some unprecedented elements to this?

Deontay Wilder's taking this fight.

Three months before the schedule the Fury rematch in February, So forget the idea of being able to lose it all if he should lose this rematch against Ortiz, how about the idea of an injured hand, any sort of thing that comes up in play three months before. Yet, because Wilder's the younger fighter with the bigger weapon overall, and he's sort of rising where Ortiz is forty, we feel like we've seen the best of him. And some people try to make that argument, like they do about a lot of Cuban athletes, that he's really forty eight or fifty eight or sixty eight. You see a lot of those jokes going around the idea is that okay? For Even though that first one was funny, competitive, in the end, Wilder's the younger, prime guy in most historic rematches, the younger prime guy comes back and gets an earlier knockout, and by the way, that could be in play, whether it's hell for Deontay Wilder early or he walks through him.

He has that kind of one punch power.

So in the recent weeks I've really seen sort of this, like the boxing public going all right, we know how this is gonna happen. It'll be fun, but this will be fine. I think we got to wake up to this. Okay, Lewis Ortiz heavyweights age later. He is the best combination in the entire division of top end power and that Cuban amateur background of being able to actually box. In fact, you go back and watch the first four and a half rounds of the first fight against Wilder, and every time Wilder throughout that jab Ortiz had the quicker counter.

The guy can box. It's also boring the first five rounds right because Ortiz controlled it completely.

And you can make the case, and it's not a hipster argument that Ortiz is the second most dangerous heavyweight alive right now, maybe.

Not second best.

You've got Fury, You've got we don't know how good really, Andy Ruiz is You can say what you want whether Aj was a fluke, but in terms of danger, a guy who can put his punches together and has fight ending power in both hands, Louis Ortiz is is an insane uh. Nobody's stepping stone, a tough out under any circumstance. So I think too many people looked at this matchup sort of come to a certain conclusion. You got to realize Deontay Wilder went through hell the first time around against Lewis Ortiz and Luke.

Ultimately, what was the difference in that first fight?

You could say, Okay, wild there's got a you know, legendary power, and he was able to outlast him and put him down. The power played a part, but it was the conditioning difference in the end, and wild there's done this too many opponents, by the way, lets them have success early. He's the fresher fighter, they fade, he gets him out of there. The difference in that fight was that Louis Ortiz kind of shot his load, if you will. All the people don't like to use that statement. In round seven emptied the tank. Thought he had him out of there. Never recovered. Conditioning wise, I've talked to Louis Ortiz I hosted the PBC Face to Face on Fox, spend some time with him off camera, and I've sort of said, look, you know, by the way, I'm also on a PBC countdown a matchup on Fox. Turned that out and look, he said, Look, conditioning was the mistake that I made the first time round. I didn't realize what I would need for twelve round championship Cardio against somebody like this, I have fixed that. He's gone in, brought in the controversial Victor Conte of snack when the false he is caught up and ripped and he's ready. So if you're asking a fighter to improve in a category like power or boxing ability in a span of a year and a half, it's probably not going to happen. Right, we're asking this guy, I know he's forty years old, but we're asking this guy to improve on really what was the difference.

In that fight Cardio. He's done that.

I'm not saying he's going to win because of that, but the idea that he could fix the one fatal flaw that he had in that fight, the fact that he gassed out late, and if you go back and watch round ten when Wilder got him out of there. It wasn't so much that he hit him and he went down and was never the same. It was really the condition and he's wore down, he got weakend, he got dropped a couple of times.

Referee jumps in without account at the end.

I'm telling you, if this guy comes in conditioned and he's able to control the fight on his terms like he did for the first four and a half rounds the first time round, this is as tough a night as Deontay Wilder can have did. I think Tyson Fury beat him one hundred percent. Tyson Fury is a boxer, though, and not a puncher or teas can do both. I'm not coming at you from the salesmanship side of raising up Fox's pay per view numbers. I'm saying this is as you can say, dare to be great to move. For Wilder to take this fight three months before a defining rematch against Fury, it's also kind of reckless. You have to have to ask yourself, why are we doing this? Nobody wants to fight or tease. He's outside of Brian Jennings. He's felt one big name, Deontay Wilder. Nobody wants to fight him for a reason, and now Wylder's giving him a second chance. That sets the foundation, Luke for what should be some insane theater on Saturday night. If you're telling me, I can see the future in Wilder wins by knockout. He may end up getting there no matter what. But this, this has the potential to be the toughest fight of his career. What's the best outcome for boxing fans?

My hunch is in thinking about like what by that I mean, let's be real about it. Luis Ortiz upsetting Deontay Wilder would be an interesting note about the fight, which is to say, it'd be the same year where John was upset by Ruiz, where Valeen nearly upset Tyson Fury certainly could have if a referee had made a different decision about the cut. And then let's say a Wilder lost, that would be this note where the boxing giants either fell or were humiliated or at least brought down to earth a little bit, And that has some interesting narrative. But honestly, the best thing for boxing fans I feel like is you want Deontay Wilder to not get too messed up and to win by flashing that impressive trademark hulk smash ko power. He did it in the last fight against Dean excuse me against that in Brazil and Tyson Fury and Louis Ortiz. He constantly has an ability to show it to me by hook or by crook. Somehow flash that turned that into a highlight. Here's what these guys did since then, it builds some drama. Do you agree or disagree? Or do you want him to match the struggles that Tyson Fury had, So then you could say both of these guys they really kind of played a little bit loose with it here. They ended up here together. A lot of questions surround this matchup.

The best thing for boxing always is to have the best face, the best The best thing for Saturday Night is to have an entertaining fight in which both kind of get under some duress. But yes, Deontay Wilder is the unbeaten, biggest sort of launch rocket launching brand in the heavyweight division.

If things go the way it.

Should for the business, it would be while they're getting an exciting win, not compromising that Fury rematch, and I think you can have that same conversation. We probably will in a few weeks about that December seventh Joshua Ruiz rematch, because the way things work business wise, should Andy Ruiz Junior pull a second straight upset, He's a PBC fighter, not a the Zone fighter, right, he was a late replacement who sort of took an opportunity and did that.

He could have a chance to come back.

Should Deontay Wilder win against Louis Ortiz and get all four belts for the first time in heavyweight history, we've had all three belt champions, but in the four belt era, we've never had somebody own all four.

That's what we want.

We want clarity and the fact that Tyson Fury is still lingering with a lineal guy who beat the guy crowd.

It's a fun time to be alive in heavyweight.

So it wouldn't be the end of the world the four tees wins because guess what, you get a trilogy out of it.

So, but it would certainly once again turn it upside down.

Now, the other part to this whole thing is not about Luis Ortez Ord'ante Wilder. It's about MMA fighter versus boxer Brian Campbell, which brings us to our next topic. This is a thing that I am just I cannot believe is happening. But it's happening. If you read boxing websites, a little bit less so on the boxing side, although some of it certainly on the MMA side. There are a number of stories out now floating about Canelo versus Jorge or Tyson Fury versus steep A, or they'll bring this up a little later to close the shields. That's a little bit different, I think, And I'm sure I'm missing some other ones here that have been brought up to me. Oh, I remember this one. Remember the old Habi versus Mayweather one that got flown.

Under Lloyd said he's gonna come back and do it in the octagon.

Okay, here's the thing about this. I wonder what your opinion is about all of these. I'm gonna go first if I may. I want to be very clear about this. There might be the occasional situation where one fighter going over to the other side could be worth taking seriously.

Like like this one right here is a not that one, but may Mac is a once in a lifetime phenomenon.

Even that wasn't real that had other appeal, like let's just do strange ship and make money doing it.

Yeah, but the idea of having two in the same sport at that level of stardom to cross pass.

Okay, But in terms of a fight, people who thought it was competitive got finessed. Let's just be real about that. Okay, Now there?

Did he did he ever? Actually? Did he actually ever picked Connor? I actually think yes he did. No, I don't think he did. I think he did.

Can we call can we phone a friend and get Brendon shop in here and make him a stand up first.

Injury is saying that Brendan picked Connor, in which case I have to have a talk with Brendan about that. All right, but here, let me, let me, let me make a point, if I may. I can scarcely think of any other type of story in media right now that shows how utterly bankrupt and frankly broken the news gathering system is other than this one. Because while I can envision a situation, for example, the Ukrainian donk who is the matrix what's his name? My mind is chen, let me Chako actually has a combat sports background. He did wrestling as a kid. I believe some sambo as well, some judo. If he wanted to start off on a low level fight just to like, I don't know, for some reason he couldn't get a boxing fight, or he just wanted to spread his combative wings. I would take that seriously depending on the circumstances, and I understand if you're Jorge Masvidoal, for example, he might actually believe that he really could be competitive. It is to me possible that these guys who prop themselves up in their minds and want to take on the biggest challenges, they can actually build a bridge too far in their mind.

So I take that kind of seriously as well.

But everybody else who is promoting this nonsense, they are taking the audience for suckers, because only a sucker would ever look at a situation like Ice and Fury fighting Steepe and think in either direction that that is real. Only a sucker would think that Canelo really, at thirty five million, would want to go and fight a UFC fighter who he probably doesn't know. It's not something he's thinking about it. It's not on his radar in any capacity. It's not where boxing fans are looking for. I've been looking to see what boxing fans say should be next for him across three different divisions. I never see any of the names for UFC fighters coming up. It is a clear indication that the news model in MMA and in boxing to a degree is broken, and that, like P. T. Barnum says, dude, there is a sucker born every minute because those stories keep getting close.

Guess who set the modern blueprint on how to do this.

It was Floyd Mayweather, and then Connor McGregor kind of took that in ram within what Tyson Fury is doing right now, which means putting out these headlines of saying Connor McGregor said he'll train me, so I certainly would love to fight Steep Bay and Steepe even taking it and going public and saying I don't even want DC right now, I want this boxing match with Fury, in Fury going the extra level of putting out that train video with there until it's so blatantly from.

That Floyd playbook.

If Floyd was right in the one year build to that Maymac fight, Floyd was a front page headline on every MMA side every other week because he was constantly saying I'm the biggest star in UFC, even though I've never stepped foot in there, and that's exactly what Tyson Fury is doing to the letter. Remember when Floyd was the main event, or not the main event book for WrestleMania twenty four, had that quick boxing retirement, spread his seed across WWE than dancing with the stars to become a bigger crossover star. Exactly what Tyson Fury is doing just recently with the WWE, and seems to be doing in voice now with these UFC headlines. But yeah, in these situations, it's not realistic. It shouldn't be realistic. I don't want it in my life. Get it away from me. Stop editors, stop green lighting these stories. People stop retweeting it. Just stop, okay, stop. Under no circumstances, the boxing heavyweight champion of the world with no fighting background other than letting his hands go is going to go over and take a UFC fight. And I get the idea because Maymack happened that somebody like Stepe would be like, yeah, of course I'd go over and do that.

Man, I'd take that payday.

But maymac has not had a long line of repetitors like we thought they might write becauseitors, because it's they were such a perfect storm to get people to care that much. I'm not saying people wouldn't care about Stepe and Tyson Fury in a boxing match, but even to get UFC, even agat Dana to get on Connor's side was like such a a one off perfect storm. So much money in there that everybody's got to just sleep together and make it happen.

And also the other part about it is two factors about Maymac that make it a little bit of unusual. One was the extraordinary amount of money even by Floyd Mayweather stands. I mean, that was his biggest pay day ever, I believe, right that was Floyd who had a forty million guaranteed against Canelo Floyd, right, So that was a lot of money there that is not going to be repeated if there was a Tyson Fjorty versus Steep a fight number one, number two. You know, look, you can say what you want about that fight. It wasn't competitive in the sense that, like, I don't think Floyd was carrying conn but I don't think he was trying.

All that hard.

People in Floyd's camp who I'm close with said he did not train for that like at all.

Like he got abs and that was.

It, and he knew exactly what was gonna happen, right, and he walked Connor down, marched him down, and then stopped him with strikes. Okay, So the reality is though, that Connor had that early three round push that folks were like, wow, he's really doing it. So in other words, everyone made a ton of money and both sides kind of could declare moral victory or victory or moral victory in a way where like, dude, let me tell you something, if somebody goes from UFC and tries to box Tyson Fury, I mean, he's not much of a puncher.

He would knock them the fuck out.

And you gotta understand the flot the framing of what maymac work made it work so well outside of just the money and the star value, which again is such a perfect comment to hit each other, the fact that Floyd was old and out of the game for two years and that Connor was doing such it was on such an absurd run of calling a shot and just doing things that we didn't think were possible. Knocking Josie aled out with the first punch, learning Eddilvas into this easy brawl and finishing him in a new weight class that it was easy to do the public into believing.

Even us hardcore boxing.

Journalists got to a certain point we had to check ourselves and go, wait, he shouldn't be competitive in this at all, But mystic Matt keeps.

Doing these freaking things that are just impossible.

If anybody, if anybody could.

Have an then you go, wait, what am I talking about? You don't have that in any other fight. Plus, you can really only fool the public on that level once, and they did it, and it was perfect and executed perfect, And even me covering the fight live when Connor had this success time, by the way, when Connor had success in the first four rounds, I'm even going, Oh my god, is Floyd washed?

Like? Is it over? Like?

Is Connor gonna have? Like everything about that execution was perfect. You're not gonna get that again under any circumstance. So outside of somebody like Colorissa Shields, the unbeaten women's boxing champion of many different weight classes, her saying after this next fight on showtime, the rematch or sorry, they're gonna run it back with Ivanna, you know, she says, Look, I'm gonna cross over and get into MMA training someone like that.

You can believe she's so young. More money in MMA.

Yes, the steep A's and the Joges of the world realize the big money is in boxing because the Canal is making thirty five million over on his own to fight, you know, to wag classes up or whatever. But in the case of Clorisa Shields, it's like, it's not just that there's bigger paydays. No, really, there's ample opportunity and there's not much of a barrier to entry, whereas for someone like Jorge and Steve Bay there's a major barrier to entry, including but not limited to Dana White's John Hans.

And I don't think this is different from the whole YouTube debate that we had last week of you know, Logan Paul and KSI that rematch and de Zone may have set their own record for subs and all that, but how many more times are people going to care when you're going down the food chain of YouTube stars now and it's Jake Paul next time, and it's Joe Blow the next time. We're going to get to a certain point we're going to go like, Okay, this isn't boxing, I don't care anymore. Can we stop this? And I hope that moment is now. But I don't run networks. Yeah, I just speak bad.

Just pay attention to who in media keeps promoting this and realize they're doing that because they take you as the audience for suckers.

Now that brings us to our last and final points.

Well, that's the message you've been telling Razor companies for years.

That's right, get bent, losers. Okay, it brings the story. Last week we had talked about Joan Bohovich at the top of the show, Brian Campbell. We now move on to the last one.

Now.

No, no announcement has been made, nothing appears to be imminent other than all indications are at the moment we speak right now, the next challenger for the USC light heavyweight title, currently claimed by John Jones will be Dominic Rayes.

Dominic Rayes of course.

At UFC Boston, Brian Campbell had the frankly kind of easy win. I hate to put in those terms, but it's kind of real. Over Chris Widman, first round stoppage, the whole bit. I actually talked to him and I had a UC two forty four prefi party. He seemed to be all in it. He had ten ynglings. He loves yinglings apparently.

Yeah, wow, he was tuned up in black and tans with the logger.

No, no, no, it was at black and tan. It was just the normal.

If I've got to go down the yingling road, you've got to go black and tan.

Apparently what he said was you can't get yngling on the West coast. I'm not sure if that's true.

No, when I grew up in Connecticut, you couldn't get it outside of Pennsylvania as net work.

So when someone would be going out of state, oh Meg, you get me in Rome.

He had some yinglings in any event, but he said, like you know, there was some things cooking, but he couldn't tell me a whole lot. All right, let's assume for the second, but there they are going to make Dominic Reyes at the next fight. Maybe let's say, do you have se two forty six or two forty seven something like that.

One Is this the right call? Two? How much of a chance do you give him? Absolutely the right call?

At this point, especially Jan Blhovich, just really put it, put it right in your face. Johnny Walker just lost. Uh Reyes has more sort of money on this side of the table than Corey Anderson at the moment. Here's the guy that you want to be good, that you've been pushing. They put him in the Toyota Tires commercial, Luke, that says something.

Yeah, no speaking role though.

Does he have a chance on paper, yes, one hundred percent. He's a volume striker, he's big. We haven't really seen his ceiling if we can forget this somewhat lifeless performance against Vulcan. Not lifeless, but I didn't think he deserved the decision. Wasn't the best of him. But really, to answer this question, Luke, You've got to ask yourself, what version of John Jones are we going to see? What we've seen of John Jones return from the USADA suspension, is that this is nineteen ninety three Michael Jordan. He's adding a fadeaway jump shot because he realized I can't drive the hole and dunk on everybody for the rest of my life.

I think against Thiago Santos.

It was that to a negative degree, John was passive in terms of going for takedowns consistently to control that fight. Wanted to play more of the checks and balances x's and o's counter game.

I mean good God Tago sent us to have legs, and he.

Somehow fought through and nearly got a backdoor victory there. If John wants to stay down that road and not lean on his wrestling, and by the way, Don Reyes would have to give him a reason not to, would have to strike early and set that discipline level, and John just tries to straight up outpoint him in this. I'm efficient, I'm growing into my Mayweather years. I believe in myself a little bit too much like I thought he did against Santos, almost to his downfall. Then Reyes has a chance, but ability versus ability. If we're going to get the very best of John Jones, the old John Jones, the attacking one, the one who sees openings and closes those openings, it should be a fight that Don Reis loses in the end because he's not on the John Jones.

Level, right.

I mean, here's the thing, It's like the two problems actually intersect. So to answer the questions that I was asking, that's the right call. Yes, and it could be competitive in the end. Who really knows, but there could be reasons to think that. Here's my point, Brian Dominic, Reyes is twelve and zero, he's only had three decisions. All the rest, all the other nine fights, they're all stoppages. You have an undefeated contender, I think, right at twenty nine thirty years old, that only makes him the most valuable person to put in that role.

Are we really telling his story?

One of the things that came out to me that was sort of obvious when Horney Maswuel ascended to the level that he has in this game was he'd been around this long, but no one had really told us exactly who he was. Now, he was more of a known commodity. He'd been in the trenches for so long. He had a little bit more of a story to tell. Reyes Is. I mean, he is pro debut in twenty fourteen, so he's a little bit wet behind the ears, relatively speaking. But the point being is there's more to understand about this guy. There is more to learn, there's more to appreciate about him. He is the younger one. He does come in with a modern game. He seems utterly unafraid of John and John you mentioned against the Tiago Santo's fight, he was maybe a little bit too much feeling himself or something. I talked to his coaches. He was actually a little bit risk averse. He was worried about some of the linear attacks that Santos.

Was so widely. This was getting close, so John was kind of reserved there.

Dominic Reyes is going to come in, in all likelihood, not with the exact same game plan, but with the exact same fire, the exact same willingness to win. This is why what Anderson Silva and Demetrius Johnson and now John Jones, what he's doing is so difficult. Rather than jumping weight classes, letting somebody come up who's an undefeated contender, who was unheralded, who has all of the courage in the world, is not afraid of you, is not afraid of your resume, even as you age, as there's more tape on you to learn and study from.

Dude, that's a dangerous difficult thing to do.

So I give John credit for taking this fight if in fact it gets announced. And secondly, like is there optimism for for Dominic? Look, nothing jumps off the page exactly except to say his speed, his willingness to exchange. I think he's got good counterpunching, he's got a good gas tank at his.

Best, he's almost like a light heavyweight Tony fergus Every time I say that.

Little he doesn't have quite the same in your face violent tenacity.

And the angles and the variety.

But he's got and also Tony, he does have an engine. And Tony has all these weird attacks from guard and he can you know, he has the dars chokes, and it's more like in the stand up, is he a little bit like Tony Ferguson? I suppose a little bit mean even then, though I'd say he's a little bit cleaner. Look, did I think there was a much of a case for Anthony Smith?

Not in the way that the fight played out.

Did I think there was much of a case for Jiago Santos, Not in the way that the fight played out. But they did play out this way and Dominic rayes whatever you want to say about Vulcan news deimr fight and I realized it's controversial, still has not tasted defeat.

Here's the thing, though, Vulcan took him down at will, which was a shocker to everybody. If John just goes, I'm John Jones, Let's take this mf or down right.

But he didn't take Smith or Santos down at will. That's the whole point. I need him to be John Jones in that risk a version. Some of those willingness to launch it to the attacks reduced him a little bit. If you play that kind of a game against Dominic Reyes, I don't know that that is optimal for it still might get the job.

Done, but again we're looking is it competitive? Yeah, it might be competitive?

And again, who's better than the undefeated candidate who just previously stopped the middleweight champion.

Who's better than this five dollars UFC two hundred bruck listener?

Why are you wearing a five dollars shirt? I am not supprised. Yeah, I'm wanting your shirt about my dog too. How about that? All right, let's get to it now. It is time for I believe your questions.

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Every time I check it has got a lot more more than following, So please follow us there. Leave a question there and we'll get to them. Okay, this comes to us first from Sledge seventy four. If Tony beats Habib in absolute dominant fashion, does he get an immediate rematch? I know he has undefeated Brian Campbell, but has only defended his belt twice.

Does this really call for an immediate rematch?

I think a dominant fashion would would be less likely for a rematch. I think if they put on the type of classic that we thought could happen for several times in this fifth meeting and back.

And forth, you see the strengths of both of their styles.

But Tony got the win, I think that'd be natural to run it back and have a rematch.

I think here's the thing. It's the same with John Jones. I know he's have to lost to Matt Hamill, but he's really never been beaten in that sense. The first person to beat him cleanly is gonna have to do it twice first.

Even if it's a dominant especially you know, short of a of a first round kind of flucish knockout, if it's a dominant beat.

Down, they're gonna co out. They're gonna say I was sick, I didn't take it seriously. Blah blah blah blah blah. Yes, yes, of course, think about it when it happened too.

We're telling me, I'm gonna interrupt you.

You're telling me because we attack this from the marketing side of lot, because that's how UFC does. They get in that damn war room in the back of Dana's office with the machine gun and the cocaine and the handle, and they got everything on the board. You're telling me, if Tony wins this again not a great fight, they're gonna run it back.

But Tony wins it dominantly. They're not like Connor McGregor line one.

Did you not see what they did for Cody Garb or Yo Wanni and Jcheck or Anderson Silva or I can just go on down the list.

Of course they're going to run it back. The first person, TJ.

Dillshaw didn't get the immediate rematch. Demitrius Johnson didn't get the ameter. He got traded.

His ask got traded. He got traded. That's a little bit different.

But the Czyborg didn't get the meedate rematch.

There's something that have it. In fact, neither did Holly Holm. But that's because Ronda took time off. You mean, if Ronda didn't clamor for it, she wouldn't have gotten it. Really, they wouldn't even show highlights while Ronda was in the UFC of her getting head kicked to that event. Because they were so sensitive to her needs. She absolutely would have did. It's just that Holly went on about our day while Ronda took a lot of time off. Here's what I'm gonna say. If okay, here's what I'll say, I'll give a slight asterisk to it. Robert Whitaker did not ask for a rematch against Israel a soignia, which I was very happy to see. However, if Habib says I want a rematch, I don't see any way they don't give it to him. I don't say anyway they don't give it to him. You really, you're asking me in my favorite Let's let's say I'm not in favor of no.

Just put on your business hat.

In the meantime, Connor comes back in January and stops and looks good enough. Right, Connor is one billion percent getting that title shot against Tony with the idea that if he could win that, then they'd bring me back.

The Connor part.

The Connor part is different because he's the most famous fighter, so that could change the equation. But like absent his absent his marketing poll, would they do that? I think they would give. I absolutely think that the first person to beat even has to do it twice.

I just feel that way. Jason, besides please and Tiba by the way, man.

Yeah right, Jason dessu Cato says, am I the only one who doesn't want to see OG's like Nick come back and get battered. It's good for a name, But there has to be an alternative. Have you ever see the UFC hosting exhibition matches or grappling matches maybe.

During I got this, Luke, you can not watch five pass.

They have grappling matches all the day.

Here's my alternative. Tell me if you like this.

Remember Vitor bel for for years has been trying to get the idea of like a senior fight league out there, you know, for older fighters. To a degree, Belatour, although they don't do it as much anymore, had become that right. I mean, they still have a lot of old guys out there, but for that little short period we of like Shamrock Great three, We had some of these so's, We had some of these almost freak level fights with names. Can we just create a set of rules for seniors that basically means a one round fight, A one round you want to go seven minutes, A one round seven minute fight, because look.

These are about a one round like Pride rules, like ten minutes a ten.

Might be a little bit too long.

How about a one round Legends rules seven minute fight, because here's the deal. You don't want him to take sustained damage over a long period of time. Number two, do you remember Tito Ortiz versus Stephan Bonder under the Bell Tour banner that three rounds snowfl I'm waiting for that mask guy justin whatever his name is, to jump in the cake. That was just sometimes these old guy fights can just be bad. I mean even even Chail versus vonder Lay, which had pockets of action, was sort of that like, oh, this is gonna go on all that time. If you're telling me we can find some type of middle ground for an aging name that just wants to go out there and bang and get a paycheck and have fun. Not the healthiest for their brain in the long term, But I think there's ways you can put a little padding around that with a quicker fight that just got there and let your hands go. You don't have to worry, abot guess and ly just go out there. It's gonna remind people of early UFC. Look, how often do you when wife and daughter are in bed and you got a couple of cold ones, you know, and you got onto the basement, you put on fight pass and you're just like, man, I'm just gonna watch YOUFC four from start to finish. You get that raw feeling again. I'm seeing fat guy against guy with a gee and just they're all with the fights all last two and a half minutes and it's all brutal, and it's, uh, can we go.

Back to that?

No, we actually can't. Also because it literally is not possible. Also the other part, why isn't it possible?

Though, Luke?

Basically what you want is MMA fighters who are good to not be involved, and you want two Charlatans to fuck each other up in short order, right?

Isn't that what forty percent of the audience wants. I'm just saying right, oh.

Yeah, but I don't care what they want. I mean, I care what I want, right, They don't care what I want, so I don't care what they want.

Wow, it's the reality people. For example, I know.

That you want it that way, but tell me why right.

I tweeted the other day that I said I wanted Till versus Whitaker, and someone goes, why would you want that? That's a terrible fight for Till, And I'm like, well, first of all, a he might win. Second of all, dude, I'm not promoting the fight. You're asking me, as a fan, what do I want to see? I want to see Till versus Whitaker. Now, in fairness, are there other fights besides the Whitaker fight you could make for Till? That'd be awesome. Of course, for sure, you don't have to make that one. But what I like to see it? And do I think it's great?

Yeah?

Why do I have to think like a promoter? I can understand why the promoter may or may not make it, But as a consumer, am I not allowed to advocate for what I want to see? So to your point, you want to see shitheads who can't fight, and I want to see the world's elite.

That makes us different in that regard.

Secondly, what I would say is, look at the question UFC hosting exhibition matches or grappling matches. Dog get a flow grappling, Yeah, but or UC five pass. UC five pass is literally picking. Let's get a bunch of guys who are good at jiu jitsu for mma, and then let's put them in a grappling contest.

Why would you watch that?

But grappling is very like you know, when you were in like middle school, and you know what you're gonna get from Cinemax after eleven o'clock.

If you're if you're.

Watching Red Shoe Diaries, you know where you're gonna get from showtime, unless it's real sex. And that's a gamble too, because there's some gross people on that show. You're getting basically, you know you're not it's it ain't it ain't what you're there for. Luke, Okay, you're there to bang, all right, and so let these guys bang for one round? Is that too much happen? How about a reality show on you Bypass, Billy Madison style where you go back to old Marietta and relive all the people that have hurt you and challenge them to grapple that I don't think.

About you think about them more than I think about them. That's the funny part about this.

All those old jocks are changing oil. Now we'll get them on the mat and roll with you.

Actually, one of the I don't want them demean him, but yeah, he's not doing great. All right, let's go to BAP Shephard with all the new I'm assuming this is bantam weights fights coming up, Santagan, Edgar, Aldo, Mourish, Favor and Yon. How nervous should al Jamain be who was in studio with us not too long ago, that he will miss his well deserved title shot with his time offers injury.

Well, first of all, Brian Campbell, it.

Wasn't a title shot right away, he was going he was offered and was going to accept the fight against Frankie Edgar to be at UFC two forty four for for Edgar's bantamwait debut, but he had a wrist and hand injury, so he had to withdraw from that and now they're gonna give it to Fordy Sanhagan.

So with that in mind, how nervos Shanalja main be he should be.

Pretty nervous when anytime you get a stacked division. Uh, And it's really like who's the healthiest and who's the closest to the phone. That's what it can come down to, you know. And this is just a bad time for him right now when he was hot, when he sort of remember he bounces back from some of those early losses when originally he was this bright prospect and he's put it all together. He's ready right now, and he's gonna probably have to go not to the back of the line, but to the middle of the line. Look, and nobody wants.

To be there. Yeah.

I asked san Haagen, like, if you beat Edgar, do you think you're going to get a title shot and be like, you know, are you at the point in your career where, okay, you're ready to have one?

He said yes, and yes, Like he's gonna be a problem. He's gonna be a problem for this. It's an interesting fight. It's a fun division. Man, when you got payote Yan, you don't know how good that guy is going to be too.

He may send mister.

Faber to I think it's Hell, I think it's Peter, It's Petra, it's whatever they I mean, they've they've got about forty pronunciations on air for that guy, you know.

All right, So we go now to be health Studios. Which UFC fighter has been the best act or in a film so far? Oh Jesus, anyone who didn't have a speaking role, Which do.

You think could be good at it? What type of film would you want to see them in? Wasn't Paul Felder a stage thespian? I have no knowledge of this. Yes he was, he was.

He did plays in college, all right, he was a I don't know if he was a play right. I don't think we can get him for good Will hunting too. One time asked him his favorite acting performance, and he named a play.

He didn't name a movie. So maybe Paul Felder, who's got some acting.

I could see Luke rock Hole playing the dick boyfriend and any and any movie you want to cook out.

I don't know how did he be on the delivering of the lines, though he could do the look with like the popped polo shirt and like the sunglasses.

He'd be every eighties villain for like a high school movie.

If there's lines involved, he could probably call Nick.

Right, Uh got to be cruel. Why you gotta be cool?

Timing don't time to be cool?

Uh?

Granny guitar was okay in Expendables again had no lines.

How many how many of those B movies have you seen? These guys have been in like No Way Out or Justice for the Small I have.

I know in pro Wrestling that ww actually has their own studios where they have these differ Does UFC have this?

No? But like there used to. It's it's tapered off some.

But there was like a good ten year period where I would get emails from pr Flax being like, we've got so and.

So we've got Boss. Boss.

Rutin was great in the in the Kevin James.

Here Comes the Boom. Yes, maybe that's the best one.

My kids love that movie Here Comes the Boom, probably because they're Paul Blart marks, which I don't understand.

But you know those two movies with the mall cup, Dude, are you raising idiots? I'm not saying they are. Are you raising some No?

There, they're getting to that age where they watch what they want. Now you know it's not just but I'm bringing it back in one I watch Commando with one of my sons, right, Okay, the everyone was a little too scared of.

It, all right, but yeah, that's good. I'm happy to hear that.

Right.

We're gonna get them on the Mandalorian with that illegal pirate and stream soon.

So you know, you know what, I might have to buy you a subscription for your kids. Well old uncle Luke coming to the rescue, all right, that's probably the best one. But no, don't you remember there was a ten year period where you would get emails being like, hey, here's the studio you've never heard of, here's this movie, and it have like it might have a random martial arts guy you might recognize from a poster, and then like four UFC fighters and the plot was they're breaking out of prison, but they got to fight their way out and ship.

I think a GSP could be in some French films.

Wasn't he? And he was ball rog and Captain America. Wow, Jason my air trying to let me know about some Verizon deal but in the middle of the show for ja.

Yeah all right, so there you go. And then lastly, Divad hc Step says the answer everybody wants to know. Dude, you guys know this whole. Did Jeffrey Epstein kill himself? Which probably he was murdered, I don't.

Know lean on probably.

I mean, well, the one person who said he was murdered was that famous pathologist, forensic pathologist from the HBO series, so he Look, I don't think you need the medical about just everybody knows this just over and then when the show knows this, the did Jeffrey Epstein kill himself? A bit where people ask it and then introduce him to answers and everything it started it has an origin on fascist websites. I want everyone to know that we're repeating this back into the show.

Normal. We're always ruining a good thing.

You're always like we should we shouldn't be doing that. You know what that stuff does to.

You if you eat it?

Like, let me eat it, all right, I can choose where I want to eat my lunch.

It might be a gas station. I don't need you to tell me that.

I'm glad he's dead. It's possible he killed himself. I don't know, but if he was murdered.

The only I don't like about it is it it's sort of made him like a de facto Harrow Harrow because people are people are gravitating to this because of the conspiracy element, because it's probably he probably didn't kill himself because of all the secrets he had.

But then it sort of makes him like this this uh, it makes him a martyr in a weird way.

When people play out this joke, I feel like it's sort of without real life, without going well yeah, yeah, I mean.

The idea is like, yes, people in prison technically should not be murdered, they should be protected. Okay, I guess, But it's like, is anyone losing sleep over this fucker?

I mean, he had secrets, bro, he had all lots.

Is he gonna tell him? Was he gonna tell him? Really? I mean this ended the way it was going to end. I kind of feel like one way.

I feel like you're better than that than that take? What that take right there? That take sucks.

I think I think this amount of time remember that show you set you protected all these weird angles you.

Were like, I think spending this amount of time on a topic this idiotic is partly the brand of the show.

Luke, Who'shot? JFK. That's really what I want to know from you right now.

To the left and to the back right the old JFK movie with Kevin Costner.

No, we should not be normalizing stuff like this. Just everybody knows. All right, there you go. Also, I don't get way to bring the show down.

Luckily we got a lot.

All right. This is the portion on Sprockets where we do slapstick.

Hey, slaptick time, Luke? Have you seen this shit?

I just want.

To get you prepared, Luke, Okay, while I set this up right here.

This is a loaded version.

There's so much that went down this weekend, so much good, bad and ugly, that this is going to be our best and longest.

Have you seen this shit ever? Are you ready? Buckle up?

Luke? Okay?

All right, all right, here's where we begin. We begin in London Probellum one. I've had about fifteen people send me this clip and ask me if I've seen this.

Ross Pearson gets sent to.

Hell by rolling thunder by Davy Gallon.

Holy crap, play that back Jay about fifty times in my ear hole?

Can you see this again, Luke, dude, this is what I mean. Poor Ross Pearson was thinking to himself. You know, Ross Pearson went to bare knuckle for a while. He said I don't have to fight the best of the best. I'm not in the UFC. And then he gets hit with.

The Oh my god, he's just just mail your soul ahead of time, like this guy's just taking you.

Look at his Wikipedia. It's bad.

This is about as bad as it gets. Shout out to Davey Gallon for nailing this. This is video game shit.

This is video game shit. Exactly what this is.

Ross Pearson gave us a lot of fun fights, but there's a lot of l's in a row on his ledger now and holy crap right there.

And that's one of those losses too, where you can't tell if the person feels it and they say to themself, wow, if I'm losing this bat and hang it up or that was so what in a million?

I shouldn't hang it up? All right.

On the second one, we're gonna go to Risen sixteen and I need you to tell me, Mojo Risen, I need you to tell me is this lame or is this cool?

Jake Hoon channeling.

Apparently Chris Pratt and Guardians of the Galaxy people are telling me, I'm not woke to that. To me, this is lame as a ball bag, Luke, what is going on?

Okay? But what song is playing? That's what I need.

It's the damn the one from the film. And I went and looked on YouTube and Jade, you know what day?

What song is it?

I don't get down with these weird superhero movies. All I know is that this makes me want to start back in. Michelle Padatas as cool after what Now?

Did you not did you see Guardians? I know you did.

That's so funny because Guardians of the gall Do you watch Marvel movies at all?

I don't.

I'm not saying I wouldn't be entertaining, but I take your kids.

To Paul Blart Molcop but you won't take them to see Marvel.

No. I take them to Star Wars everything. Okay, Okay, do your kids like this? They haven't seen that. They've never seen the Marvel movies. They've never seen Avengers Infinity War.

Or they'll find a show on Netflix that they like and watch all eight seasons in a row, in like a loop, just over and.

I believe it. I believe it.

Okay, the Gardens of the Galaxy are My wife can't stand the Marvel movies except.

For Guardians of the Gallaxy. I hear, it's great. What's this dude?

Who's the pro wrestler who's in that Dave Batista? Uh, shockingly funny in that one. The whole series is funny.

They're telling me. In my it's included with Disney Plus.

And this guy, this guy star Lord Quill is hysterical.

So you're saying, this is cool, this is great, This is one of the best moments.

Would have to hear exactly which song it is?

Okay, what song is it? I know everyone at home watching it is screaming, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's okay.

I'm alright with it.

A lot of people saying in my ear that it looks like our our, our trustee social media producer over here, Derek King, that it's very right there.

Are you cool? Well, I wouldn't say considerably.

The former D one football player right there, scholarship athlete sort of sort of yeah, all right, all right, let's get out of here.

This is lame O can handle this anymore?

Hey?

You remember that guy that Canelo folded up in a suitcase last summer. Rockiel Rockey fielding was back this weekend against Abdella Pozzi Pozzi. Look at that little flour piece you just gave him there. That does not come with a soda, but it does come with a ticket to hell.

Wow, Rocky Filly I had in studio.

He was a nice guy, very nice book, very nice guy.

Uh he actually did a whole game on on a Liverpool.

Look at this.

Unfortunately forfeited his soul. That's Canela.

Look at that combo right there. Wowup Pozzi. Well Posey is sent down below. I don't know, but that was a first round knockout, I believe. There in Liverpool this weekend. Did you check out show Box on Friday, Luke. On the undercard, there's a fellow named Amilcar Vidal. He's ten and oh with nine KOs fielding one more time. Ah look at what he does. Say look at that package you put together on Ariel Prieto. This goes down as a first round TKO. Like I said, ten and oh nine KOs, look like Vidal baboon in there box.

Right, Yes, he is all Argentine fighters can paunch.

Luke, it's a stereotyper from Argentina. Damn right.

Shout out to Lucas Matisse. The machine. The first knockdown was was a little bit more vicious. What's good looking ish there?

Over the weekend?

Have you seen that ship? You should have on showtime?

He looks smooth, Luke, I want to take you to the links right now. I told you I do a podcast with Shot this weekend. He was at a golf tournament in Florida. Check out this t shot.

Hey, Charles Barber, it hit a house. You can't. You gotta go to this thing and check out the volume on that. He hit a house and look at the comments.

Erkle's taking shots at him right there, Julia Wood, check it out.

We got Kevin i Oli and we got ercle bro he is. Check out this. Look at him in shape. This guy's ready in shape. That is the wow swing.

Shout out to the UFC Hall of Fame or earthquake survivor.

By the way, Sugar shot Evans during his speech remember Hall of Fame over International Fight Week.

He looks like, I mean that is not graceful. Have you seen that ship? I want to take you to some uh. You know how they have the rule in MMA, Luke.

If you can't do the spinny shit, then don't do it because you're about to be Chris Weidman to hell.

This is in.

ACA one oh one, Daniel Planka badly screwing up some some spinny ish and Rado slow Puzzuski drops the polish.

Hammer on him, and how off balanced he is when he's good. It looks like prime Chris Washman right there. Oh dude, that looks like I mean, honestly, it is like you can hear that the ref slipping and sliding over there to see if is like drunk. I mean I've often said this. You know this to be true in Mma, where.

Guys are trying stuff they shouldn't be doing, some of their losses are like like technique karma.

Yes, it's like this is what This is why you don't throw shit.

This is why you don't try a jumping arm bar like that chick tried. And have you seen this shit a few weeks ago? Right, head on the technique karma. You ain't Demetrius Johnson, all right, If you do that, you're gonna end up on the show in this ball bag segment. Okay, it's not gonna make a red Hey, let's keep it going here. You know my new favorite fighter, Aviv Gozally on Belatour. Remember he had that fifteen seconds four second submission last time.

Luke.

Yeah, Luke, he's four and oher with four subs. He's eighteen years old. This was at Belotour two thirty four in Tel Aviv. He's from Israel. Check out this first round submission. How do you like the technique there?

Uh? Great? Every time he.

Fights Luke, he makes our highlight reel. This guy's amazing Aviv Gozali. I don't know much about the competition, but uh, he's a showman. Remember that one where you faked the Uh he went in kind of faked the handshake and then roll into the minari roll and got the instant tap.

Yeah you down with that move right there? Yeah, it's nice. I just don't have very you know.

Does it make your ADCC.

I can't go to.

Israel because I got a elevenies passport stamp, so I don't want to lose that.

So you're gonna hold it against this guy he's out here tapping.

No, it's a nice it's a nice joke, all right, but beyond that, I don't care.

All right, I says a guy who grew up and cut her. All right, let's go here.

I don't know if we should celebrate this knockout.

But I had to show it to you, Luke.

LFA seventy eight over the weekend, Jose Johnson sends Raphael Costa.

To the deep dark depths and look at that reaction.

Oh, this was so bad.

Now where did he he hit him with a twelve six? I mean, I think even Matt he looked.

Like it wasn't straight down. It looked like it was curbedry like joke.

Matt Hamill heard that it was so loud. That was the joke.

Luke. Sorry, you know I heard. I heard your joke. What did you not? Have you ever seen a reaction like that? That's bad.

Now.

I've seen twitching with the feet, I've never seen twitching with the.

Head night at the Roxbury. I mean, that's just not good.

Dude, that is so bad, so bad. What does that's o? LFA just got signed to UFC Fight Pass.

Yes, which, by the way, a little note on this is a true story. Uh now because LFA is with fight Pass. Yeah, they're gonna put the lf A library all on fight all.

The Phoenix Carnevale. You can you can handle their shout out or for.

Someone like me has to go back and look at fights. It's a nice way to see someone's progression.

Yeah, Luke, I got one more for you.

I know you don't like this segment list somebody gets hitting the nuts somewhere, Luke. Okay, so you know those you know those lame we gotta watch this guy di again. You know those lame gender reveals.

This guy had it.

Come and check this out, Luke.

I don't care about Oh my God, to the pills, what you.

Get for having a gender reveal party to begin with. So the good news is you're having a boy.

The bad news is you'll never have him again because this guy just took him right to the boys.

Check this out, Luke.

Oh, Luke, you want to put an ultrasound picture on your Facebook, That's fine. I celebrate. I commend you the miracle of life that is birth. Your wife gave birth. It's amazing. I don't need this type of weird uh YouTube bs of people you.

Know, like, did you and your wife ever do a gender room?

Not negatory.

I want to. I want everyone to know if I look down, everyone who does, I'm not done watching this.

Jake, can we run?

I mean check this? I mean, what do you think is gonna happen.

Less of you as parents and people if you have a gender reveal party.

In the description it said teen father, so he still may have a chance to produce kids.

But I don't know.

That was a pretty direct shot.

Luke good.

I am, I am, and I would like to take my pants off to enjoy further this man's pain.

Let me tell you something. This is just dark.

Ye, this is just the wedding industry bleeding money from the more.

Yes, I don't need I don't need creative prom asking videos.

You just go up to a chicken.

Asker, right, I mean coming? Did you ever see that one? Uh? The one?

It was a phone case where if you wanted to propose the true if you want to propose to your girl, you put the phone, you put the ring in the case, and then as you flip open the phone.

You can even do it on an iPhone.

It would pop open the ring right in front of the camera so you could see her reaction as you're asking her with the ring in the picture.

See my day.

We would just bring a box up to a girl. Step three, open the box and.

Where's a drive by shooter when you need one?

Wow, they're listening to your playlist right now, getting ready?

I hope shit, yeah, I hope. Wow.

Hey have you seen that?

Shit? Look best segment of the week by far.

Come on it get touches you in all those places.

You in the right place.

People are getting behind it though, my dem You know how many pictures of Valentino Chefchenko are in my dms right now.

The people love this ship.

Well, that's because the Shiftchenko has super horned up fans for some reason.

Have you noticed that? I've never noticed that at all. Shouts to Jack Slack, who constantly makes one of them. All right, So that leaves us to that means we have like minded people, all right, they they you know.

That leaves us left with the oene segment, the oe odds and ends, all right, Brian Kemble, what you got.

For it was bk FC nine seven nine one of them over the weekend in Biloxi, Mississippi, the home of Mississippi Mean Hick Diez Jason Knight. It was the rematch with our Tom Lobob for the Walter White Championship. You remember in April. Their first bout was a It looked like a horror movie at the end. There was so many cuts. They ran it back and Jason Knight knocks out Low Bob in the fifth round. It was it was a pretty impressive performance. He actually were The first one was just a barroom brawl. The second one was a little more tootature and he was hurting Low Bob from the first round.

On kind Jason Knight knockout Paul or not knockout Artam and Paulie couldn't do it.

Paul We tried to actually box in this fight, and Paulie also doesn't have the hands. But I don't think Lo Bob deserved that, deserved that decision, but he kind of became the face of the brand now Night beat him.

What do you gotta do running back? I guess you got to run it back.

I guess they could do it, but I mean, could you bare knuckle box in Ireland?

Are they allowed to do that?

I think you grew up doing that right, yeah, but like for money officially on television.

Drink enough of that proper twelve you probably will. And also on the undercard, did you see our guy.

Really are? Did you see what's his name? Fellon?

You know, uh crazy horse ohey.

Charles Bennett.

Charles Bennett was back and he came out with his pants around his ankles, and he ended up succumbing to an injury. But I went back and watched the kJ and even stuff all over again. That was just classic.

I remember that, Yeah, I certainly do. Did you catch this card?

I mean, look, it's it's the it's the kind of slop that sometimes moves me and sometimes makes me feel uncomfortable.

I don't even know what to say about that. The same slop does that to you? Yeah? Either way?

That first, well, look the first lowbo of night fight. By the last round, I'm sort of like.

Yeah, but if they had done that twice, I would be concerned. But they it wasn't the same. It was actually a So what should be the trilogy of a sword fight?

What do you want?

Uh?

Does there have to be a trilogy? It's a fair point.

But well, when you're a BKFC, what else do you have?

Luke?

What else do you have to get?

The people they got legalized? They got legalized in two extra states. First, all that's great North Dakota. Yeah, two places, flower Country? And then lastly, I love I love saying flower Country because I know that tilts some where's our footage. No footage of this, no footage. Lastly, I'll stay on the BKFC thing. Hey guys, this guy popped up on my radar a while ago because I follow a lot of like barbend accounts, and you know we lived in the accounts.

Yeah, well, I don't know if you know this.

The Iranians are excellent strength athletes, Like they're very very good. Speaking of Iranians, speaking of strength athletes, speaking of just weird speaking, BKFC has announced that this viral sensation, this dude who, how do I explain how he looks?

He looks like photoshop? He's tell me we have photos of him?

Do we have photos of this Iranian hulk jay that could be on me? We don't have them. Google Iranian Hulk. Okay, his name is Sajad r Ebuh. He basically looks like a mutant from another dimension. I don't know how this man defecates and cleans himself. I don't know really how he goes through most life events. I mean, look at that. Yeah here, ok, can you can you get that? Jake?

Jake, can you come in on this year?

I got I can throll on the iPad. This is what he looks like he's supposed to be six y three. He's supposed to be six foot three and three hundred and ninety pounds. He's gonna gas after five seconds.

Certainly.

What I like about watching him fight is clean sport really matters to me. Bryan Campbell and there's nothing.

He looks like Iranian Shrek. Look at this guy, science experiment turned into a human. Dude.

I mean, if he has the same amount of blood as he does antabolic steroids in his veins, would you be surprised?

Is that water in his like under boob right there?

What is that? Those are his lats? Wow? Those are his lats? Dude.

He's gonna walk. He's gonna gas walking to the to the ring. Honestly, he's gonna throw.

Who sure they got to put him in there against?

I mean, I don't know a rhino, uh, A chimpanzee. I don't honestly know a chimpanzee would suck him up.

But I got it.

I got somebody for him. Pousia brother, Poosia. Dude, Poujia would ruin him.

You don't know Posa's bare knuckle game.

You don't know that. You're just you know dude.

He's this five times world's strongest man and he's a legit MMA fighter. He would fuck this dude up. But you're right I would want to see it, though I don't want to see it. This is what I'm talking about, like Jason Knight versus Arts and low Ball, because a fine thing to to Okay, those guys they put it out there right, good for them. But you want to capture my attention. Yeah, I want to see some science experiments fight some fucking strong.

You like the back end of the show. I know you like the back end. Look we do it gets wild.

Here, we don't do You don't want to see that? Of course?

I for that.

You think ks W would let him go fighting bare.

Knuckles one to go to Cumbland Farms after this, we'll check out the road.

By the way, you owe me beer, Welcher.

I think we need to like actually set this up right, get a sponsor involved, get a brewery in here.

Stop being lazy, and bring the beer in that you claim is life changing. It's very simple. It really is life changing.

Yeah, well apparently because you were hoarding it. We have dom rays in here and we'll just drink a twelve of yengars.

You know what we should do. It's a true story.

We should do a show where we drink a beer for every segment and so by like the end of the show, we'll have eight or nine deep.

If we look to change the look of the show next year, maybe go from bomb shelter to bar.

Maybe we'll get a bar.

Tender in here. That'll be nice.

Shh, Yeah, I would betologists. I would do it, old mixologists, I would have that happen, all right. A misogynist, we got one and we got with us, all right. Like we said before, please like and subscribe to the show. We were the channel. We really appreciate when you do. We need more of those.

Gotta drive them, folks, gotta drive the got goals to hit thirty K. I would like to see how.

There's no show like this loop. There really is not.

You cut a promo on our enemies please, I mean, if you're not with us, you're against us. This is the show that's taking over combat sports.

And if you want more of us on social there's Brian Campbell and then be Campbell CBS.

Yeah, no stick picks us that will still applies.

And then uh, look, Thomas News on Insta and then l Thomas News on Twitter and then again Morning Combat on Instagram as well.

How excited are you for UFC two forty five, man? That card is uh yeah, you're gonna be there. You gotta go.

No, I'm not gonna go. I'll tell you why. For the show though it was a good personal uh not for me on the no fly list. I wish, I wish I was on a fucking no fly list. I hate getting on airplanes. But no, are you gonna go?

Damn right, it's the biggest card of the year. What was the last UFC show you went to. I didn't go to New York because I was Canelo. What was the one before that? I went to the International week I feel like there was one to be doing.

Okay, so there was two forty three, which was who the fuck isty? Two forty two was a beab? So what was two forty three? And then there was Max and Frankie? I can't remember which one that one was? Was that two forty three? This is a great show. Hold on, Yeah, we are well, certainly we are encyclopedic talent when it comes to this kind of thing.

UFC.

The show right now we'll get back down, would have Curd out of Sonya.

Yeah, that was the under I didn't go to that one.

Did you go to the Nate Diaz one against Pettis with Cormier and Steepe.

Yeah, yeah, it was July, right, Okay, so that's the last that that was August. That was the last one. Yeah, I was at that one. Yeah, all right, there we go. Good job.

Yeah, he was a good show.

Luke. Maybe this weekend you can find something that makes you happy.

Sleep also hard for me to find. Thank you guys so much for watching. That's Brian Campbell. Follow him on social media. I'm Luke Thomas. Do the same and until next time, in all of your gains, be loyal.

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