Really readily, donks. It is Monday, August fifth, twenty nineteen, and it's time for Morning Combat. My name is Luke Thomas. I am the host of this program along with my co host, you know this man very well from CBS Sports and a bunch of other places, is Brian Campbell.

Really readily, donks. It is Monday, August fifth, twenty nineteen, and it's time for Morning Combat. My name is Luke Thomas. I am the host of this program along with my co host, you know this man very well from CBS Sports and a bunch of other places, is Brian Campbell.

Y'all fired up, fired up, MK ultra back coming at you.

Y'all fired up, fired up, MK ultra back coming at you.

We've got fired up Brian, not hung over, Brian. Huh Yeah.

We've got fired up Brian, not hung over, Brian. Huh Yeah.

I don't really speak about your personal life on air. I don't know where you're going with that one, right there?

I don't really speak about your personal life on air. I don't know where you're going with that one, right there?

All right? Ready to just this morning? Yeah, let's do that. Actually, I don't say this before we get to the first topic. A surprisingly busy weekend. Actually there's a lot of stuff.

All right? Ready to just this morning? Yeah, let's do that. Actually, I don't say this before we get to the first topic. A surprisingly busy weekend. Actually there's a lot of stuff.

In the past summertime outside of that UFC early July fourth of July week normally nothing going on, but really speaks to where I'm a man boxing is at this year and are in twenty nineteen, that things are businesses moving.

In the past summertime outside of that UFC early July fourth of July week normally nothing going on, but really speaks to where I'm a man boxing is at this year and are in twenty nineteen, that things are businesses moving.

Let's get to the first order of business if we can. You know what we're going to start UFC two forty one. Excuse me post uf two forty one. YOUFC on ESPN five Chaos was here Colby Covington, just down the street from where we are, defeats Robbie Lawler fifty to forty five on all three judges scorecards. Now appears to be an all likelihood your runaway contender for the next title shot against Kamar Usman. They brought him up on stage. They had to have a row of security there.

Let's get to the first order of business if we can. You know what we're going to start UFC two forty one. Excuse me post uf two forty one. YOUFC on ESPN five Chaos was here Colby Covington, just down the street from where we are, defeats Robbie Lawler fifty to forty five on all three judges scorecards. Now appears to be an all likelihood your runaway contender for the next title shot against Kamar Usman. They brought him up on stage. They had to have a row of security there.

It was Rashot Evans almostarted in too, Dave Shaller trying to say what.

It was Rashot Evans almostarted in too, Dave Shaller trying to say what.

He'd probably do a bit of a better job before being on shots to Dave shaw.

He'd probably do a bit of a better job before being on shots to Dave shaw.

Takes all a strong hair part these days that you gotta give Seant Evans too.

Takes all a strong hair part these days that you gotta give Seant Evans too.

At any event. So let's get to this. What did we learn about Colby Covington. I'll go first on this one if I.

At any event. So let's get to this. What did we learn about Colby Covington. I'll go first on this one if I.

Man, hey, it's your show? Why not?

Man, hey, it's your show? Why not?

Right, Well, it's our show in any event, Actually it's their show too, Okay, So what did we learn first? Here's what I learned. This might be the first fight where the MMA media begrudgingly accepted that he's actually pretty good. Let me just sort of stick this out loud. There is Look, there's nothing wrong I think with letting your political views be brought to bear. Colby Covington's doing that but you have to always make sure that that doesn't influence the way you assess how good a fighter is. And I'll be honest, I believe that not across the board, but in general. The amount of vitriol they have for Colby Coventon's views in the media, it has blinded them to actually how good he is. He's been this good for a while. They just didn't want to accept it. This was the one, but they were like, will you bet Robie Lawler even at thirty seven, not prime but still very very good. They finally had to accept gulp. I find Colby's political views odious as well, but I am the first person to be like, yo, that dude is awesome. He's very, very talented, and honestly, I did this on Dissected Brian that fight against kamar Usman is ultra competitive. You may have just seen the next UFC walter Way champions. So for me, what do we learn about Colby Chaos Conington. He's a serious threat to the throne at one hundred and seventy, not by virtue of being the top contender, but because of actually how legitimately talented and how well he matches up against Kamori.

Right, Well, it's our show in any event, Actually it's their show too, Okay, So what did we learn first? Here's what I learned. This might be the first fight where the MMA media begrudgingly accepted that he's actually pretty good. Let me just sort of stick this out loud. There is Look, there's nothing wrong I think with letting your political views be brought to bear. Colby Covington's doing that but you have to always make sure that that doesn't influence the way you assess how good a fighter is. And I'll be honest, I believe that not across the board, but in general. The amount of vitriol they have for Colby Coventon's views in the media, it has blinded them to actually how good he is. He's been this good for a while. They just didn't want to accept it. This was the one, but they were like, will you bet Robie Lawler even at thirty seven, not prime but still very very good. They finally had to accept gulp. I find Colby's political views odious as well, but I am the first person to be like, yo, that dude is awesome. He's very, very talented, and honestly, I did this on Dissected Brian that fight against kamar Usman is ultra competitive. You may have just seen the next UFC walter Way champions. So for me, what do we learn about Colby Chaos Conington. He's a serious threat to the throne at one hundred and seventy, not by virtue of being the top contender, but because of actually how legitimately talented and how well he matches up against Kamori.

Yeah, you may not like his paint brushes, his choice of colors, his easel, but he painted a masterpiece on Saturday against Lawler, And you're right, this is that moment where you got to step up and whether you hate him for the right reasons, whether you hate him in general, all of that, you got to give him his due.

Yeah, you may not like his paint brushes, his choice of colors, his easel, but he painted a masterpiece on Saturday against Lawler, And you're right, this is that moment where you got to step up and whether you hate him for the right reasons, whether you hate him in general, all of that, you got to give him his due.

It's very reminiscent. They're not the same fighters.

It's very reminiscent. They're not the same fighters.

It's not equal comparison, but very reminiscent to Connor McGregor against Chad Mendes.

It's not equal comparison, but very reminiscent to Connor McGregor against Chad Mendes.

We're up to that point.

We're up to that point.

It was, you know, when we finally see him against this style, we can prove that he's just a trash talker, we can prove that he's not legit, we can prove that maybe he's just a puncher. So it sort of had that same error where when you saw that and I know Chad Mendis took that fight late, but that victory and you saw the emotion in Connor that night, that was when I think a lot of people were like, Okay, get ready, the Connor McGregor era is here.

It was, you know, when we finally see him against this style, we can prove that he's just a trash talker, we can prove that he's not legit, we can prove that maybe he's just a puncher. So it sort of had that same error where when you saw that and I know Chad Mendis took that fight late, but that victory and you saw the emotion in Connor that night, that was when I think a lot of people were like, Okay, get ready, the Connor McGregor era is here.

Like it or not.

Like it or not.

This is a much different situation because of the personality at stake, because Colby wants you to hate him. If you're upset about anything he said on Saturday, that means he won that Matt Hughes joke distasteful, yes, well timed perfectly. He wants you to hate him on that level. His public workout had scantily clad women. He's telling everyone, including me in fight week, I got the best cardio in the game because of what I do in the bedroom.

This is a much different situation because of the personality at stake, because Colby wants you to hate him. If you're upset about anything he said on Saturday, that means he won that Matt Hughes joke distasteful, yes, well timed perfectly. He wants you to hate him on that level. His public workout had scantily clad women. He's telling everyone, including me in fight week, I got the best cardio in the game because of what I do in the bedroom.

Hey guys, porn star cardio, wake up. This is great for the sport. Not good for the sport. Great for the sport.

Hey guys, porn star cardio, wake up. This is great for the sport. Not good for the sport. Great for the sport.

To have a button pusher like this, But for that aside, this is opening segment.

To have a button pusher like this, But for that aside, this is opening segment.

This first question is really about what he did in that cage.

This first question is really about what he did in that cage.

Yes, he established himself as a too true title contender. We cannot take that away from him. But because of his polarizing nature, I'm sure you had this happen too, because you're a lightning rod for controversy no matter what on social media. But me, I don't put out there that I voted for Nader in ninety six and two thousand. I did, though, did you really?

Yes, he established himself as a too true title contender. We cannot take that away from him. But because of his polarizing nature, I'm sure you had this happen too, because you're a lightning rod for controversy no matter what on social media. But me, I don't put out there that I voted for Nader in ninety six and two thousand. I did, though, did you really?

Really?

Really?

But once I put out there that Colby Covington painted a masterpiece and he looked great, And now we have to respect him. Man, you would think I did that with like a serpent on my chest and a machine gun in my hand.

But once I put out there that Colby Covington painted a masterpiece and he looked great, And now we have to respect him. Man, you would think I did that with like a serpent on my chest and a machine gun in my hand.

You know what I mean. I'm just talking about what he did in the cage. Yeah, it was so funny to watch this because look, Robbi Lawler is thirty seven. Am I suggesting Brian that Robbie Lawler is in his prime? Well, of course not. No, he is not in his prime. To that point, I had Robbie Lawler on my show on Sirius XUM and I asked him, Hey, man, how have you stayed this good? This relevant? Frankly, this healthy for his eighteen year pro career. That's how long he's been in pro. That is remarkable, and that is a very long time. And look, father time comes for everybody. Am I willing to look at this and say that Colby beat the very best version of Robby Lawler we've ever seen? No? He did not. Am I also willing to probably bet because there's no really way to know this. Colby Coveton gives the very best version of Robby Lawler. Fits, yes, because look at how he does it. Look at how he is able to fight, Look at how he is able to win. And when you begin to piece together the skills that he has, with the strategy that he has, with that unbelievable cardio. Dude, I've got news for you. He's good enough to beat any welter waite. That's a fact. Colby Covington is good I mean he will. By the way, do let me say he's good enough, doesn't mean he will. I'm not predicting he goes out there and just blows the doors off everybody. But does he have the skills? Does he have the cardio? Does he have the experience? Now two beats any welterweight in the Ultimate Fighting Championship? Nay on earth? Yeah, let me give him. Let me give him this.

You know what I mean. I'm just talking about what he did in the cage. Yeah, it was so funny to watch this because look, Robbi Lawler is thirty seven. Am I suggesting Brian that Robbie Lawler is in his prime? Well, of course not. No, he is not in his prime. To that point, I had Robbie Lawler on my show on Sirius XUM and I asked him, Hey, man, how have you stayed this good? This relevant? Frankly, this healthy for his eighteen year pro career. That's how long he's been in pro. That is remarkable, and that is a very long time. And look, father time comes for everybody. Am I willing to look at this and say that Colby beat the very best version of Robby Lawler we've ever seen? No? He did not. Am I also willing to probably bet because there's no really way to know this. Colby Coveton gives the very best version of Robby Lawler. Fits, yes, because look at how he does it. Look at how he is able to fight, Look at how he is able to win. And when you begin to piece together the skills that he has, with the strategy that he has, with that unbelievable cardio. Dude, I've got news for you. He's good enough to beat any welter waite. That's a fact. Colby Covington is good I mean he will. By the way, do let me say he's good enough, doesn't mean he will. I'm not predicting he goes out there and just blows the doors off everybody. But does he have the skills? Does he have the cardio? Does he have the experience? Now two beats any welterweight in the Ultimate Fighting Championship? Nay on earth? Yeah, let me give him. Let me give him this.

This shout out here had him on my podcast Stay of Combat on CBS Sports last week, like that little plug it in.

This shout out here had him on my podcast Stay of Combat on CBS Sports last week, like that little plug it in.

Right, so check it out, you know.

Right, so check it out, you know.

All right?

All right?

Anyway, the point is I said to him, Look, Kolby, you know the questions coming in in this fight. Yeah, You're probably gonna be able to take Robbie down. You're probably gonna be able to control large chunks of this fight. What happens if he stuffs your takedowns? What happens if this becomes a striking matches when it comes to kickboxing slash boxing match. And of course he said the right things. He said, I had a chance to show you how well rounded I actually am. You gotta give him that credit here. A good deal of the second half of that fight was on the feed.

Anyway, the point is I said to him, Look, Kolby, you know the questions coming in in this fight. Yeah, You're probably gonna be able to take Robbie down. You're probably gonna be able to control large chunks of this fight. What happens if he stuffs your takedowns? What happens if this becomes a striking matches when it comes to kickboxing slash boxing match. And of course he said the right things. He said, I had a chance to show you how well rounded I actually am. You gotta give him that credit here. A good deal of the second half of that fight was on the feed.

From the second round on. They were striking and Toby was winning, and he outstruck Robbie.

From the second round on. They were striking and Toby was winning, and he outstruck Robbie.

He did it with volume, he did it with smarts, and we were waiting this whole time it over rounds two, three, four, and five. And by the way, shout out to John Jones for that tweet that we were all thinking, you know, you let the world down, Robby Lawler. But the point is we're way for that boom to come, and it never came. Is it because Lawler's thirty seven? No? Is it because Coldby worked so hard to bleed his guess? Think probably? But I think Colby at least established something in Robbie's mind that if you gopher broke, if you do the one thing everybody watching at home, regardless of their political views of screaming Robbie, let the hands go, brother, bring the pain, be that guy be ruthless. Colby gave him reasons not to in that, And you got to give Colby that credit there, Liz.

He did it with volume, he did it with smarts, and we were waiting this whole time it over rounds two, three, four, and five. And by the way, shout out to John Jones for that tweet that we were all thinking, you know, you let the world down, Robby Lawler. But the point is we're way for that boom to come, and it never came. Is it because Lawler's thirty seven? No? Is it because Coldby worked so hard to bleed his guess? Think probably? But I think Colby at least established something in Robbie's mind that if you gopher broke, if you do the one thing everybody watching at home, regardless of their political views of screaming Robbie, let the hands go, brother, bring the pain, be that guy be ruthless. Colby gave him reasons not to in that, And you got to give Colby that credit there, Liz.

And also, how can you expect Robbi Lawler to get off with some kind of big shot when Colby Covington literally attempted more strikes in this fight than any other fighter has ever done in any other fight in UFC history, five hundred plus attempted strikes. The idea is that not every single one causes a maximum amount of damage. But if I could just be in your face all the time, how can you ever get started? How can you.

And also, how can you expect Robbi Lawler to get off with some kind of big shot when Colby Covington literally attempted more strikes in this fight than any other fighter has ever done in any other fight in UFC history, five hundred plus attempted strikes. The idea is that not every single one causes a maximum amount of damage. But if I could just be in your face all the time, how can you ever get started? How can you.

Ever Robby looked like Woodley did against Usmann. Wasn't that the same thing?

Ever Robby looked like Woodley did against Usmann. Wasn't that the same thing?

Right?

Right?

You're waiting for Woodley to wake up and go for broke and it was never there.

You're waiting for Woodley to wake up and go for broke and it was never there.

Because he's spamming you with offense. How can you get your defense beyond just stage one? Stage?

Because he's spamming you with offense. How can you get your defense beyond just stage one? Stage?

It's like when you try to illegally stream a pay per view and you got all these like Russian sex things dropping up on your laptop.

It's like when you try to illegally stream a pay per view and you got all these like Russian sex things dropping up on your laptop.

It's the same time you got to get a Mac. They have less of the spamware that you're affected by.

It's the same time you got to get a Mac. They have less of the spamware that you're affected by.

Right, that's the good news for Robbie. Can I deliver some bad news? I'm sorry, good news for Colby, And so here's the deal. Yeah, that was fantastic. Yeah, we have to praise him right now. Same time, Luke, I think we just saw his ceiling. I think we just saw as great as Colby Covington can be.

Right, that's the good news for Robbie. Can I deliver some bad news? I'm sorry, good news for Colby, And so here's the deal. Yeah, that was fantastic. Yeah, we have to praise him right now. Same time, Luke, I think we just saw his ceiling. I think we just saw as great as Colby Covington can be.

Right, we knew we can beat the B.

Right, we knew we can beat the B.

Minus is the B plus maybe even an A minus depending on where you sort of rated RDA.

Minus is the B plus maybe even an A minus depending on where you sort of rated RDA.

Come into that last fight and this.

Come into that last fight and this.

Rejuvenated version of Robbie Lawler, there are some bad parts about that. He couldn't finish Lawler, he didn't try to finish Lawler. So now when I look at what happens now when Colby moves up to the elite level, the truly elite level, the top of the pops here the kamaro usmans, I don't think he has it.

Rejuvenated version of Robbie Lawler, there are some bad parts about that. He couldn't finish Lawler, he didn't try to finish Lawler. So now when I look at what happens now when Colby moves up to the elite level, the truly elite level, the top of the pops here the kamaro usmans, I don't think he has it.

Okay, So here's the deal. Remember right what I said, on any given night, Colby has the ability, the gas tank, the willingness to know how to beat any welter. Right now, I don't know that he will. What's funny, by the way, is that he and Kamarrow are actually really similar fighters. There's a pretty key difference. If you want to know what that difference is, watch dissected.

Okay, So here's the deal. Remember right what I said, on any given night, Colby has the ability, the gas tank, the willingness to know how to beat any welter. Right now, I don't know that he will. What's funny, by the way, is that he and Kamarrow are actually really similar fighters. There's a pretty key difference. If you want to know what that difference is, watch dissected.

That has got you covered, right.

That has got you covered, right.

But the point being is, I actually think at the very very top of walter walterweight right now, there's a little bit of parody. One person could beat one one night, one person could be one the next night, and so forth. When they roll that dice, whenever that fight eventually gets made, it's it's really whoever just sort of I hate to put it in these terms because they're so cliche, but they're really true in wrestling. Whoever really wants it more that night is problem.

But the point being is, I actually think at the very very top of walter walterweight right now, there's a little bit of parody. One person could beat one one night, one person could be one the next night, and so forth. When they roll that dice, whenever that fight eventually gets made, it's it's really whoever just sort of I hate to put it in these terms because they're so cliche, but they're really true in wrestling. Whoever really wants it more that night is problem.

Well, and here's the bigger problem for Colby though in this like we're talking right here, we just saw the best of him. The next step is obviously Kamara Ustban.

Well, and here's the bigger problem for Colby though in this like we're talking right here, we just saw the best of him. The next step is obviously Kamara Ustban.

I got a problem for you, Colby.

I got a problem for you, Colby.

You're some of your parts guy, You've put it all together and made a very elite fighter out of yourself.

You're some of your parts guy, You've put it all together and made a very elite fighter out of yourself.

But Tomorrow's better at what you do.

But Tomorrow's better at what you do.

And that's a problem.

And that's a problem.

And I know you can say, no, I know you can say, let's look at Kamorrow's recent history. He's not finishing guys either, but he's battering guys. He's mauling guys. Colby's out pressuring them, he's dripping the of their gas tank. He's out voluming them tomorrow, is actually bashing and hurting guys.

And I know you can say, no, I know you can say, let's look at Kamorrow's recent history. He's not finishing guys either, but he's battering guys. He's mauling guys. Colby's out pressuring them, he's dripping the of their gas tank. He's out voluming them tomorrow, is actually bashing and hurting guys.

So when I look at this and started sort of handicap.

So when I look at this and started sort of handicap.

From a few steps away and say, okay, as we get closer to usman Covington can Kolby win this?

From a few steps away and say, okay, as we get closer to usman Covington can Kolby win this?

I don't think he actually can. But it's the way in which they score damage that is the difference. Again, watch dissector. We went over this, okay from two four excuse me from UFCN ESPN five. It keep saying two forty one from UFC on ESPN five. Any other standout for me? I'll say this, there was a lot of fights that happened a lot of different interesting things. How about Jim Miller's guillotine. Unbelievable for him to just dive the way he did arm In he caught it. I think Mickey Gall stands out to me. A lot of folks were saying, oh, well, he didn't look that good. I don't know. I thought I saw and improved. To Mickey Gall, is he out there beating the very best of his division? Well? No, probably not, But is he getting better over time? I actually thought his gas date looked better than he was getting credit for. So for me, Jim Miller, Mickey gall a couple of interesting standouts. I wonder for you when you look back on UFCN, ESPN five, give me some standouts.

I don't think he actually can. But it's the way in which they score damage that is the difference. Again, watch dissector. We went over this, okay from two four excuse me from UFCN ESPN five. It keep saying two forty one from UFC on ESPN five. Any other standout for me? I'll say this, there was a lot of fights that happened a lot of different interesting things. How about Jim Miller's guillotine. Unbelievable for him to just dive the way he did arm In he caught it. I think Mickey Gall stands out to me. A lot of folks were saying, oh, well, he didn't look that good. I don't know. I thought I saw and improved. To Mickey Gall, is he out there beating the very best of his division? Well? No, probably not, But is he getting better over time? I actually thought his gas date looked better than he was getting credit for. So for me, Jim Miller, Mickey gall a couple of interesting standouts. I wonder for you when you look back on UFCN, ESPN five, give me some standouts.

Oh, for me, it's Antonino Chevchenko completely because when she came into the sport Valentine's older sister. We know that, we know the decorated kickboxing background. We didn't know if she could be a complete mixed martial artist. And up to this point in her UFC run, there've been a little bit of a mixed bag, and the mixed part of it has been she hasn't shown you the complete mixed martial arts game against Roxy Wanafii. She kind of looked remedial on the ground in that regard. So to see her come out, to see her survive damage, survive a cut, and then get such a vicious choke in which she choked her opponent out and then do so with sort of a creepy, violent smile on her face, this was a large step forward because nobody wants to be the odd ball sibling to a star. Nobody wants to be Ozzie Canseco, Dan.

Oh, for me, it's Antonino Chevchenko completely because when she came into the sport Valentine's older sister. We know that, we know the decorated kickboxing background. We didn't know if she could be a complete mixed martial artist. And up to this point in her UFC run, there've been a little bit of a mixed bag, and the mixed part of it has been she hasn't shown you the complete mixed martial arts game against Roxy Wanafii. She kind of looked remedial on the ground in that regard. So to see her come out, to see her survive damage, survive a cut, and then get such a vicious choke in which she choked her opponent out and then do so with sort of a creepy, violent smile on her face, this was a large step forward because nobody wants to be the odd ball sibling to a star. Nobody wants to be Ozzie Canseco, Dan.

Miller, Marcus Vick, Frank Stallone, whoever your dirt bag brother is you got.

Miller, Marcus Vick, Frank Stallone, whoever your dirt bag brother is you got.

Any Yeah, I got one. Nobody wants to be that guy. Yeah, and this is Valenteer. I'm sorry.

Any Yeah, I got one. Nobody wants to be that guy. Yeah, and this is Valenteer. I'm sorry.

This is Antonio's chance to sort of separate herself a little bit.

This is Antonio's chance to sort of separate herself a little bit.

So I would say this. I thought that she looked good, don't get me wrong. The choke coming off of the way she's sort of flipped onto the back, I thought was pretty remarkable. That was good. But I thought Putolova's strategy was weird because if you watched well, first of all, you just knew her background as a multi fighter. Maybe clinching up with her not the best idea. Plus here, you already knew an Ma she could do that her first fight on the Contender series, which is how she got into the UFC. You'll recall she pieced somebody up in the clinch, So I was like, I'm not sure what you're doing to me. Though, the growth to find the choke in a let's say, an unusual entry into that position. That was the best because you go back to the Mona Ferry fight Monta Fairy on the feet probably not much of a match for Chipchenko. I thought it was a little bit more some of the transition game. Obviously, the ground neither Shipchenko's sisters are good on the ground, except Valentine is deep. Actually Valentine is pretty good submitting Juliana painteat but it's not what they're best at, right, So you sort of know the firing handguns and dancing. They're dancers. But I guess the point being is you kind of know what to expect there. That's that's gonna be easier to fight them there than other phases. But then to go into the middle phase where they're actually still pretty good. I'm not saying that you learned nothing about it. I just think it's another step in the direction, not that we can sort of say, oh my god, it's the most amazing thing. One more person I want to shot. Wow.

So I would say this. I thought that she looked good, don't get me wrong. The choke coming off of the way she's sort of flipped onto the back, I thought was pretty remarkable. That was good. But I thought Putolova's strategy was weird because if you watched well, first of all, you just knew her background as a multi fighter. Maybe clinching up with her not the best idea. Plus here, you already knew an Ma she could do that her first fight on the Contender series, which is how she got into the UFC. You'll recall she pieced somebody up in the clinch, So I was like, I'm not sure what you're doing to me. Though, the growth to find the choke in a let's say, an unusual entry into that position. That was the best because you go back to the Mona Ferry fight Monta Fairy on the feet probably not much of a match for Chipchenko. I thought it was a little bit more some of the transition game. Obviously, the ground neither Shipchenko's sisters are good on the ground, except Valentine is deep. Actually Valentine is pretty good submitting Juliana painteat but it's not what they're best at, right, So you sort of know the firing handguns and dancing. They're dancers. But I guess the point being is you kind of know what to expect there. That's that's gonna be easier to fight them there than other phases. But then to go into the middle phase where they're actually still pretty good. I'm not saying that you learned nothing about it. I just think it's another step in the direction, not that we can sort of say, oh my god, it's the most amazing thing. One more person I want to shot. Wow.

I think he rolled off of Colby way too soon. I got a lot more.

I think he rolled off of Colby way too soon. I got a lot more.

I want to talk to him. We've got some stuff we got, dude. They're making me go there in my ear.

I want to talk to him. We've got some stuff we got, dude. They're making me go there in my ear.

I know the people in your air.

I know the people in your air.

They can come talk to me about you. You bring that shit to me all right, real quickly. Claudio Silva is a guy who has been off forever. He was on the prelim card. He has only fought I think twice in the last four years. He's just had injury after injury, described it as being in a prison. I think to Fernanda projest over from ma Junkie slash now the athletic, and he has been super talented. Has a win over Leon Edwards, which a lot of folks don't really realize. He's really good. He's just been injured, he's just been off. He got back to work on this card and made short work of his op. I think, who had already missed wake came into one seventy six. So for him to be able to do that, I thought, pretty impressive return. I actually am. I'm keeping my eye on that guy because he's good. He's just been inactive and if you're inactive, you're invisible in this sport. Anyone else in.

They can come talk to me about you. You bring that shit to me all right, real quickly. Claudio Silva is a guy who has been off forever. He was on the prelim card. He has only fought I think twice in the last four years. He's just had injury after injury, described it as being in a prison. I think to Fernanda projest over from ma Junkie slash now the athletic, and he has been super talented. Has a win over Leon Edwards, which a lot of folks don't really realize. He's really good. He's just been injured, he's just been off. He got back to work on this card and made short work of his op. I think, who had already missed wake came into one seventy six. So for him to be able to do that, I thought, pretty impressive return. I actually am. I'm keeping my eye on that guy because he's good. He's just been inactive and if you're inactive, you're invisible in this sport. Anyone else in.

This card, Yeah, Colby Covington, So you get ready for this though, here's the deal, YOUFC, and you're looking at Kamara Usman Domina victory over Tyron Woodley. But in a business sense, look, the guy is not marketable. He doesn't talk to talk and doesn't finish guys. Some of the same things we said negatively about Leon Edwards. Potentially Usman does grind them out hard. Is Covington getting to this level and proving himself to be legitimate as an elite fighter. The best thing that can happen to UFC if Usman is going to be that guy, if he's going to go on some kind of run as your UFC welterweight champion, Because doesn't Colby automatically make Kamara Usman the biggest possible babyface. When they're on that ESPN's Plus set afterwards and they're arguing and it's, by the way.

This card, Yeah, Colby Covington, So you get ready for this though, here's the deal, YOUFC, and you're looking at Kamara Usman Domina victory over Tyron Woodley. But in a business sense, look, the guy is not marketable. He doesn't talk to talk and doesn't finish guys. Some of the same things we said negatively about Leon Edwards. Potentially Usman does grind them out hard. Is Covington getting to this level and proving himself to be legitimate as an elite fighter. The best thing that can happen to UFC if Usman is going to be that guy, if he's going to go on some kind of run as your UFC welterweight champion, Because doesn't Colby automatically make Kamara Usman the biggest possible babyface. When they're on that ESPN's Plus set afterwards and they're arguing and it's, by the way.

I think it's fantastic what they did, that back and forth bickering.

I think it's fantastic what they did, that back and forth bickering.

People on Twitter going, oh, this is a debacle, this is ridiculous, this is great TV. Okay, this is the fight game, and you are now making kam Usman he's going to be a household name, as a babyface, as this great guy from Africa, as this whatever. Automatically because of the hatred that comes with Colby Covington. He's different from a marketing standpoint than anyone we've seen in UFC. He's not Sonning, he's not McGregor. Yes, a lot of it is sort of faking calculate, but it pierces people on a deeper level to get them legitimately mad well because of the political problem.

People on Twitter going, oh, this is a debacle, this is ridiculous, this is great TV. Okay, this is the fight game, and you are now making kam Usman he's going to be a household name, as a babyface, as this great guy from Africa, as this whatever. Automatically because of the hatred that comes with Colby Covington. He's different from a marketing standpoint than anyone we've seen in UFC. He's not Sonning, he's not McGregor. Yes, a lot of it is sort of faking calculate, but it pierces people on a deeper level to get them legitimately mad well because of the political problem.

When people fail to understand about Colby Comisson is they like, oh, he's the maga guy. Okay, well he is that quite quite expressly, the maga guy.

When people fail to understand about Colby Comisson is they like, oh, he's the maga guy. Okay, well he is that quite quite expressly, the maga guy.

Don Junior and Eric in the house, I'm you know, but.

Don Junior and Eric in the house, I'm you know, but.

He is more than that. He is. It's like a like a it's like a lower level Andy Kaufman where the joke is on the audience when people are saying, oh my god, how could he say something like about Matthews, Because he's not trying to make you laugh, He's trying to make you hurt. And that's exactly what he does when he comes out to the was the kurd angle music and everyone's telling me sucks he is. The whole point is to put his finger in the chest of taboos, of establishment of manners, of goodwill, of good cheer. He wants to set a blaze to all of that. He happens to do that alongside of this sort of political bent, but it's actually a much more going on to that. So when they label him in these sort of cheap ways, they don't really understand who is I will say though, I will say though, well, I don't mind the bickering back and forth, and particularly when Colby accused of you know who have you knocked out? He's like Sergio Morish's like never heard of him? Okay, good moment, funny, hilarious. Even though Sergia Muri is very good black guy, who the fuck is that guy? Is really? Actually good black belt? The question is how ugly is it going to get? How?

He is more than that. He is. It's like a like a it's like a lower level Andy Kaufman where the joke is on the audience when people are saying, oh my god, how could he say something like about Matthews, Because he's not trying to make you laugh, He's trying to make you hurt. And that's exactly what he does when he comes out to the was the kurd angle music and everyone's telling me sucks he is. The whole point is to put his finger in the chest of taboos, of establishment of manners, of goodwill, of good cheer. He wants to set a blaze to all of that. He happens to do that alongside of this sort of political bent, but it's actually a much more going on to that. So when they label him in these sort of cheap ways, they don't really understand who is I will say though, I will say though, well, I don't mind the bickering back and forth, and particularly when Colby accused of you know who have you knocked out? He's like Sergio Morish's like never heard of him? Okay, good moment, funny, hilarious. Even though Sergia Muri is very good black guy, who the fuck is that guy? Is really? Actually good black belt? The question is how ugly is it going to get? How?

Well, that's the question I want to ask you. What's your what's your personal line of where it goes too far? Because the math he was joke distasteful to the to the nines, but pretty hilarious in that moment, dark.

Well, that's the question I want to ask you. What's your what's your personal line of where it goes too far? Because the math he was joke distasteful to the to the nines, but pretty hilarious in that moment, dark.

To the point where if they are stoking political and racial tension to the point where it bleeds into the audience itself, that to me is the limit. If they want to keep it between themselves and say things and take it out on each other in a white I'll say this. One thing he has been very consistent about is this is the fight game. People say nasty things to each other. You know what, He's right, you have to just let room for that to happen. And you know, having covered Ricardo Majorga, y know, they say he said really nasty things to de la Hoya.

To the point where if they are stoking political and racial tension to the point where it bleeds into the audience itself, that to me is the limit. If they want to keep it between themselves and say things and take it out on each other in a white I'll say this. One thing he has been very consistent about is this is the fight game. People say nasty things to each other. You know what, He's right, you have to just let room for that to happen. And you know, having covered Ricardo Majorga, y know, they say he said really nasty things to de la Hoya.

You spoke secrets in the Ring. That's like the coolest movie you could possibly ever get.

You spoke secrets in the Ring. That's like the coolest movie you could possibly ever get.

But he said vicious things about his wife, things like that. Okay, so the point being is that's going to happen, but when it spills into the audience, that's that. That was why people are like, oh, you're gonna regulate the speech of Habib and Connor. I'm not regulating their speech. But when you stoke enough enough ethnic and national tension to the point where people at home feel like their identity is.

But he said vicious things about his wife, things like that. Okay, so the point being is that's going to happen, but when it spills into the audience, that's that. That was why people are like, oh, you're gonna regulate the speech of Habib and Connor. I'm not regulating their speech. But when you stoke enough enough ethnic and national tension to the point where people at home feel like their identity is.

That's funny, car natalg that's when it's like regulators mount up.

That's funny, car natalg that's when it's like regulators mount up.

But here's the deal.

But here's the deal.

Though, if Colby is exactly who I'm sort of saying what he is, which is really good, but warning track power against the very elite. He has a chance to be UFC's chill son and and I don't want to bring up that name around you because we're gonna go We're gonna date, gonna.

Though, if Colby is exactly who I'm sort of saying what he is, which is really good, but warning track power against the very elite. He has a chance to be UFC's chill son and and I don't want to bring up that name around you because we're gonna go We're gonna date, gonna.

We're gonna te chill and are good now we call it each other. We're fine. Go ahead, damn slides, Yeah, we do. We spoke on the phone. Picks didn't tell you this, Picks spoke.

We're gonna te chill and are good now we call it each other. We're fine. Go ahead, damn slides, Yeah, we do. We spoke on the phone. Picks didn't tell you this, Picks spoke.

So here's the deal. They have a chance to what did chill Son do.

So here's the deal. They have a chance to what did chill Son do.

The best thing he did the second half of his career was make stars out of other people. So one thing when he retired, some really smart people like Chuck Mindenhall wrote in pieces in columns.

The best thing he did the second half of his career was make stars out of other people. So one thing when he retired, some really smart people like Chuck Mindenhall wrote in pieces in columns.

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They said, the.

Best move chaill Son ever did was make Anderson Silva sort of a charismatic crossover type of star from being such a villain in his face.

Best move chaill Son ever did was make Anderson Silva sort of a charismatic crossover type of star from being such a villain in his face.

I wonder if Colby can consistently do that. We'll have to say level for them, all right, Well, speaking of somebody who won't be a star in the UFC anymore, because they're not going to be in the UFC star we moved down to Chris Cyborg. Where does the story even begin. It's actually hard to say. I would actually argue goes all the way back to Baltimore in twenty fifteen or fourteen. But here's the story as we understand it. On Friday, Lori Cenko sat down with UFC President Dana White and did an interview. And in that interview, Dana White makes a series of claims and also just a outright proclamation that the UFC is no longer Brian in the Cyborg business. She was for folksmen to understand she had finished the fights on her deal. But UFC contract work in such a way where if you're not the champion, although that's a different scenario, but if you're not, they have ninety days to exclusively negotiate with you. Nobody else can come in and make you an offer. Now, when that window expires, everybody gets a shot. They waived that ninety days and said they're not even going to attempt to match. We're done, We're out of here. I will go to you first on this one. Your reaction to the news was so, if she right to do it, is it the good thing? How do you assess what happened?

I wonder if Colby can consistently do that. We'll have to say level for them, all right, Well, speaking of somebody who won't be a star in the UFC anymore, because they're not going to be in the UFC star we moved down to Chris Cyborg. Where does the story even begin. It's actually hard to say. I would actually argue goes all the way back to Baltimore in twenty fifteen or fourteen. But here's the story as we understand it. On Friday, Lori Cenko sat down with UFC President Dana White and did an interview. And in that interview, Dana White makes a series of claims and also just a outright proclamation that the UFC is no longer Brian in the Cyborg business. She was for folksmen to understand she had finished the fights on her deal. But UFC contract work in such a way where if you're not the champion, although that's a different scenario, but if you're not, they have ninety days to exclusively negotiate with you. Nobody else can come in and make you an offer. Now, when that window expires, everybody gets a shot. They waived that ninety days and said they're not even going to attempt to match. We're done, We're out of here. I will go to you first on this one. Your reaction to the news was so, if she right to do it, is it the good thing? How do you assess what happened?

My reaction to the news was disappointment.

My reaction to the news was disappointment.

If I'm looking at this as a whole, as a sport, because the right fight for Cyborg's legacy of what she has left is a rematch with Nunyaz. It's a chance to run back that sort of passing of the torch of the women's greatest of all time, whether you believe in that or not. So I'm sad as a fan to see that happen, But things have happened to almost make it necessary. I'm almost at the point where even I'm getting little sick of the soap opera. If you can't get along, then maybe just move on. Cyborg still has a window to make a lot of money, like I said, whether it's belat or pro wrestling, boxing, all that stuff.

If I'm looking at this as a whole, as a sport, because the right fight for Cyborg's legacy of what she has left is a rematch with Nunyaz. It's a chance to run back that sort of passing of the torch of the women's greatest of all time, whether you believe in that or not. So I'm sad as a fan to see that happen, But things have happened to almost make it necessary. I'm almost at the point where even I'm getting little sick of the soap opera. If you can't get along, then maybe just move on. Cyborg still has a window to make a lot of money, like I said, whether it's belat or pro wrestling, boxing, all that stuff.

But here's what's interesting.

But here's what's interesting.

Up until this point, Cyborg had done such a great job at making us believe that this soap opera was completely one sided, that it was Dana White as a history of talking bad about her, and now he's saying that she doesn't want the rematch, and now.

Up until this point, Cyborg had done such a great job at making us believe that this soap opera was completely one sided, that it was Dana White as a history of talking bad about her, and now he's saying that she doesn't want the rematch, and now.

Blah blah blah, blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah, blah blah blah.

I think she screwed up by having our team put out that video. Whoever's decision. It was the video of the edited backstage conversation that I'm sure Dana maybe didn't know the cameras were on, whatever, But you know that they edited it in a way with those subtitles on the screen that didn't seem to accurately portray what Dana was saying and seemed to almost make you think he was saying two other separate things that were bad in his case. I know she's publicly sort of put you know, said she was sorry in that, but that almost puts power back on data side in this and look, in reality, this is some stupid soap opera. We're trying to figure out who really said bad things about each other. The problem probably was at the negotiation table, probably more with their team.

I think she screwed up by having our team put out that video. Whoever's decision. It was the video of the edited backstage conversation that I'm sure Dana maybe didn't know the cameras were on, whatever, But you know that they edited it in a way with those subtitles on the screen that didn't seem to accurately portray what Dana was saying and seemed to almost make you think he was saying two other separate things that were bad in his case. I know she's publicly sort of put you know, said she was sorry in that, but that almost puts power back on data side in this and look, in reality, this is some stupid soap opera. We're trying to figure out who really said bad things about each other. The problem probably was at the negotiation table, probably more with their team.

But this took away me.

But this took away me.

Feeling almost one hundred percent bad for her because I know the history of data and what he says. Now I just feel like it's it's this weird soap opera that needs to end. And by the way, in terms of that video, whether it's Laura Senko or Megan to Leave, they do a great job. But can we not open the video by saying, thank you so much Data for your time.

Feeling almost one hundred percent bad for her because I know the history of data and what he says. Now I just feel like it's it's this weird soap opera that needs to end. And by the way, in terms of that video, whether it's Laura Senko or Megan to Leave, they do a great job. But can we not open the video by saying, thank you so much Data for your time.

I know you're so busy.

I know you're so busy.

Dana called for that camera to put on there because he trashed out on the cydebord.

Dana called for that camera to put on there because he trashed out on the cydebord.

He kind of trashed ESPN and their.

He kind of trashed ESPN and their.

E sixty report too, the outside the line, cross side the line.

E sixty report too, the outside the line, cross side the line.

So this is him basically dropping a big dump with a UFC camera right there.

So this is him basically dropping a big dump with a UFC camera right there.

He called for it.

He called for it.

It doesn't even need a host. He can just set it up a webcam in his bathroom.

It doesn't even need a host. He can just set it up a webcam in his bathroom.

Fa No, it's not like a media outlet like requested time and he like, well, let me carve out fifteen minutes for you. They called her. We're like, yo, show up, We're going to do this in any event.

Fa No, it's not like a media outlet like requested time and he like, well, let me carve out fifteen minutes for you. They called her. We're like, yo, show up, We're going to do this in any event.

So it's bad for fans. But at this point do you agree with me where it's like I don't even care anymore.

So it's bad for fans. But at this point do you agree with me where it's like I don't even care anymore.

Just break apart your parents together. Yes see, I come from divorced parents. Shocker. I'm sure that was a major surprise to everyone that I'm broken like that. In all fairness though, like people look, divorce is never a great thing. And this is sort of like a bit of a poditioning way to make the point, but there are just certain entities, certain people they just cannot get along. Trying to make them get along, it only exacerbates the detensions, the problems, and then there becomes all manner of collateral damage. They absolutely need to move on. I will say this though, about the video Cyborg put out. Look, it was nakedly duplicitous to do that. Whether it was her call or her production team's call, whoever's call it was, you fed up because I don't think it's like fifty to fifty both sides are equal to blame. To me, it's much more Dana Whites to blame. But when you do this, particularly at the juncture what you're getting released, and now you're having to come out and say you apologize. God, the optics are so bad. You end up looking like it's a completely equal scenario. When it's not. Remember what I said before about Kobe and Kamara. When it's gone too far, when it bleeds into the audience. This is the one thing about Data that just I just can't wrap my head around is his inability to recognize the power of his own statements. He loves it when his statements are listened to and everyone snaps their heels and jumps that attention and the world says, yes, Dana, you're so right. But then when he diminishes somebody and insults them, he wants to say I didn't do anything. It's like, you can't have it both ways. You're the most powerful guy or you're not. Back at that scrum in Baltimore, you can hear on the video two it is me and Errajjwane and John Morgan questioning him about this. I was there. You can hear my voice on the two big questions.

Just break apart your parents together. Yes see, I come from divorced parents. Shocker. I'm sure that was a major surprise to everyone that I'm broken like that. In all fairness though, like people look, divorce is never a great thing. And this is sort of like a bit of a poditioning way to make the point, but there are just certain entities, certain people they just cannot get along. Trying to make them get along, it only exacerbates the detensions, the problems, and then there becomes all manner of collateral damage. They absolutely need to move on. I will say this though, about the video Cyborg put out. Look, it was nakedly duplicitous to do that. Whether it was her call or her production team's call, whoever's call it was, you fed up because I don't think it's like fifty to fifty both sides are equal to blame. To me, it's much more Dana Whites to blame. But when you do this, particularly at the juncture what you're getting released, and now you're having to come out and say you apologize. God, the optics are so bad. You end up looking like it's a completely equal scenario. When it's not. Remember what I said before about Kobe and Kamara. When it's gone too far, when it bleeds into the audience. This is the one thing about Data that just I just can't wrap my head around is his inability to recognize the power of his own statements. He loves it when his statements are listened to and everyone snaps their heels and jumps that attention and the world says, yes, Dana, you're so right. But then when he diminishes somebody and insults them, he wants to say I didn't do anything. It's like, you can't have it both ways. You're the most powerful guy or you're not. Back at that scrum in Baltimore, you can hear on the video two it is me and Errajjwane and John Morgan questioning him about this. I was there. You can hear my voice on the two big questions.

Was John Morgan wearing the blue shirt? And was he allowed to ask the first go does he.

Was John Morgan wearing the blue shirt? And was he allowed to ask the first go does he.

Not ever wear the blue shirt? I mean, there's a bear shit in the woods. But the point being is when we go through the video, you can hear us talk to him about it. He was not taken out of context. You can go and watch it in context. It is not in any way, shape or form exonerating. In fact, he brings it up without provocation. And the point being is when Cyborg is saying her kid is getting bullied at school, dude, that is not an accident. That did not just happen, and people get emboldened to say things. Yes, because kids are animals, and also because there has been from the top down a culture created where Cyborg gets to get bullied to the point where she's having to fistfight Angela mcgania at the fire or retreat. That started somewhere. It didn't start just There wasn't some big bang where people just decided let's do this to Cyborg. People in high positions normalized it, and it got tracked. It trickled down.

Not ever wear the blue shirt? I mean, there's a bear shit in the woods. But the point being is when we go through the video, you can hear us talk to him about it. He was not taken out of context. You can go and watch it in context. It is not in any way, shape or form exonerating. In fact, he brings it up without provocation. And the point being is when Cyborg is saying her kid is getting bullied at school, dude, that is not an accident. That did not just happen, and people get emboldened to say things. Yes, because kids are animals, and also because there has been from the top down a culture created where Cyborg gets to get bullied to the point where she's having to fistfight Angela mcgania at the fire or retreat. That started somewhere. It didn't start just There wasn't some big bang where people just decided let's do this to Cyborg. People in high positions normalized it, and it got tracked. It trickled down.

Do you want to throw some blame Miranda for this?

Do you want to throw some blame Miranda for this?

Sure? Absolutely calling her and it's like again, I get it, I get it. People in the fight game say nasty things to each other. But when it starts affecting other people, that's when you gotta look around and say, maybe take some culpability here, Maybe say, you know what, for someone I want to do business with, maybe I shouldn't call this person incredibly disparaging things down the line, because it'll have lasting consequences beyond just the parties involved, and it will make getting business done difficult. Maybe maybe don't sow seeds of discontent from day one, and we won't have to be in the position where you're explaining to Laura Sanko why you're letting a person.

Sure? Absolutely calling her and it's like again, I get it, I get it. People in the fight game say nasty things to each other. But when it starts affecting other people, that's when you gotta look around and say, maybe take some culpability here, Maybe say, you know what, for someone I want to do business with, maybe I shouldn't call this person incredibly disparaging things down the line, because it'll have lasting consequences beyond just the parties involved, and it will make getting business done difficult. Maybe maybe don't sow seeds of discontent from day one, and we won't have to be in the position where you're explaining to Laura Sanko why you're letting a person.

Go with everything that you just said, And you are correct.

Go with everything that you just said, And you are correct.

I'll agree with you on that.

I'll agree with you on that.

Did you like seeing old school fiery angry Dana back? That was like two thousand and nine Dana was resurrected. I mean they had the full screen graphics ready with the quotes, they had video they were thrown too. This was like angry Dana ready to like swear out somebody.

Did you like seeing old school fiery angry Dana back? That was like two thousand and nine Dana was resurrected. I mean they had the full screen graphics ready with the quotes, they had video they were thrown too. This was like angry Dana ready to like swear out somebody.

Yeah, I sure, I don't love it or hate it. It's just the choice that he makes.

Yeah, I sure, I don't love it or hate it. It's just the choice that he makes.

Do you think he listens to the metal band you do called Dying Children.

Do you think he listens to the metal band you do called Dying Children.

Dying Fetus. I'm fact like this band is some marginal dirtbag band. This is one of the best bands in metal.

Dying Fetus. I'm fact like this band is some marginal dirtbag band. This is one of the best bands in metal.

See you having more in common than you realize.

See you having more in common than you realize.

I know that you think headbanging to Matchbox twenty is like apex masculinity. Wow. But on this side of the table, we get busy with actual metal. Okay, in any event, moving on, so we'll see what happens there by the way she go to beltwor PFL. You think.

I know that you think headbanging to Matchbox twenty is like apex masculinity. Wow. But on this side of the table, we get busy with actual metal. Okay, in any event, moving on, so we'll see what happens there by the way she go to beltwor PFL. You think.

The fight, the fight is Kayla Harrison at this point, so but they should go there, she f I Julia Budd if I'm.

The fight, the fight is Kayla Harrison at this point, so but they should go there, she f I Julia Budd if I'm.

Going to Padana's right that she avoided the new Nests fight to fight like the PAMs hoursons in the world. Juli Budd, it's a legitimate contender, But my hunch is that she's going to head towards bell.

Going to Padana's right that she avoided the new Nests fight to fight like the PAMs hoursons in the world. Juli Budd, it's a legitimate contender, But my hunch is that she's going to head towards bell.

Fight doesn't move me. And here's the problem. Kayla Harrison might be the only fight.

Fight doesn't move me. And here's the problem. Kayla Harrison might be the only fight.

That moves me.

That moves me.

Yeah, the cyborg, the attraction against anybody move me to a degree, but it will get old after awhile. So really, the Kayla Harrison, I'd like to see her go to boxing. I'd like her to see her use her name to inject that in the In the Fledgeling women's game in boxing, which finally has a couple of stars. I know they're not all equal in weight, but we finally have three or four women that we would at least know who they are when you say their name.

Yeah, the cyborg, the attraction against anybody move me to a degree, but it will get old after awhile. So really, the Kayla Harrison, I'd like to see her go to boxing. I'd like her to see her use her name to inject that in the In the Fledgeling women's game in boxing, which finally has a couple of stars. I know they're not all equal in weight, but we finally have three or four women that we would at least know who they are when you say their name.

So I wouldn't mind seeing that potential.

So I wouldn't mind seeing that potential.

All right, Speaking of seeing the next fight in women's well title history in this particular case upcoming this coming weekend. I believe the UFC heads to Urtuguay. I believe Montevideo you can just call it Uruguay. You and John Annack doing the urdu. I M come on, that's how it's pronounced.

All right, Speaking of seeing the next fight in women's well title history in this particular case upcoming this coming weekend. I believe the UFC heads to Urtuguay. I believe Montevideo you can just call it Uruguay. You and John Annack doing the urdu. I M come on, that's how it's pronounced.

I mean, where this is America, I don't I'm not trying to go all Colby, but if you ask.

I mean, where this is America, I don't I'm not trying to go all Colby, but if you ask.

People how do you pronounce Uguay from Uruguay, they're gonna say Uruguay. That's how you probab it Uruguay. All right, but it's actually not Uruguay. It's actually Uguay. That's how you say it, you know that, right. Repeating how Native speakers say the name of their own country is not a problem. It's actually the way.

People how do you pronounce Uguay from Uruguay, they're gonna say Uruguay. That's how you probab it Uruguay. All right, but it's actually not Uruguay. It's actually Uguay. That's how you say it, you know that, right. Repeating how Native speakers say the name of their own country is not a problem. It's actually the way.

We should have to check my Columbia House subscription to see if they have dying children.

We should have to check my Columbia House subscription to see if they have dying children.

Maybe that will that will culture me a little bit better.

Maybe that will that will culture me a little bit better.

In any event, they go to month of video, I believe that's where it's going to be. The point being is they're going to very far down in South America, first time they're ever in this country. Valentina Chevchenko Spanish speaker should be noted, is taking on Liz Carmush. Now this is actually the second time they fought. It's technically a rematch. Brian Campbell, So I'm gonna pitch this question to you first again, Actually know what I'm gonna take this one first, if I may, because the question was, as we talked about it yesterday planning the show, is there anything to this fight beyond the narrative they're presenting, which, hey, it's a rematch, blah blah blah. I want to make this but this point, it's a fine fight. And in fact, I would never dismiss the chances of somebody like Gorilla in Liz Carmush for the United States Marine strong as an Ox trains with a good team ex. Marina for Marine. No such thing as the next trains with a good team always comes prepared right and has been in big fight scenarios before. I'm actually looking forward to the main event. I want to be serious about that.

In any event, they go to month of video, I believe that's where it's going to be. The point being is they're going to very far down in South America, first time they're ever in this country. Valentina Chevchenko Spanish speaker should be noted, is taking on Liz Carmush. Now this is actually the second time they fought. It's technically a rematch. Brian Campbell, So I'm gonna pitch this question to you first again, Actually know what I'm gonna take this one first, if I may, because the question was, as we talked about it yesterday planning the show, is there anything to this fight beyond the narrative they're presenting, which, hey, it's a rematch, blah blah blah. I want to make this but this point, it's a fine fight. And in fact, I would never dismiss the chances of somebody like Gorilla in Liz Carmush for the United States Marine strong as an Ox trains with a good team ex. Marina for Marine. No such thing as the next trains with a good team always comes prepared right and has been in big fight scenarios before. I'm actually looking forward to the main event. I want to be serious about that.

In the narrative of back at her natural weight, she'd been fighting at thirty five.

In the narrative of back at her natural weight, she'd been fighting at thirty five.

Old and she was strong in one thirty five at one twenty five, look out, bro, she is really, really, really powerful.

Old and she was strong in one thirty five at one twenty five, look out, bro, she is really, really, really powerful.

And she holds a win under over Jessica and Drosh. So hold the win over two active champions. Right, you can sell it, you.

And she holds a win under over Jessica and Drosh. So hold the win over two active champions. Right, you can sell it, you.

Sell you can sell it that way, but let's be really you actually really can't sell it to me. The fight itself is fine, but when you look down the rest of that card, you say to yourself, Wow, they have put together a fight at the top of a UFC card, where the whole point is. Look, if you're the UFC, you're looking down this card, you're like, Okay, we owe fights to this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy. We have to meet contractual demands for this platform, this service, this country, this broadcast deal. Let's just throw something together. Put a respectable fight, no doubt about it, at the top of the card. But that card, like we say this all the time time, it might be the least impressive card in UFC history. Now not wrong. People always go bro, you can't judge fights before they happen. Yes, you can.

Sell you can sell it that way, but let's be really you actually really can't sell it to me. The fight itself is fine, but when you look down the rest of that card, you say to yourself, Wow, they have put together a fight at the top of a UFC card, where the whole point is. Look, if you're the UFC, you're looking down this card, you're like, Okay, we owe fights to this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy. We have to meet contractual demands for this platform, this service, this country, this broadcast deal. Let's just throw something together. Put a respectable fight, no doubt about it, at the top of the card. But that card, like we say this all the time time, it might be the least impressive card in UFC history. Now not wrong. People always go bro, you can't judge fights before they happen. Yes, you can.

You absolutely When you look at that card on paper, are you trying to do the do the math in your head and do the time zones to figure out what time the main event starts.

You absolutely When you look at that card on paper, are you trying to do the do the math in your head and do the time zones to figure out what time the main event starts.

That's when you know that is not a great card.

That's when you know that is not a great card.

But do your question of what's sort of the real narrative here. The real narrative here is kind of what you said, it's a crappy card. How do we put something good on it? Oh, let's put a title fight in a non pay per view fight, Let's put it in a fight night. But also, let's not forget Chefchenko is Peruvian born and born in Kerghstan, but has made Peru her second home. So maybe there's some elements of marketing and trying to establish sure a Spanish speaking sort of celebrity there in your Aguay.

But do your question of what's sort of the real narrative here. The real narrative here is kind of what you said, it's a crappy card. How do we put something good on it? Oh, let's put a title fight in a non pay per view fight, Let's put it in a fight night. But also, let's not forget Chefchenko is Peruvian born and born in Kerghstan, but has made Peru her second home. So maybe there's some elements of marketing and trying to establish sure a Spanish speaking sort of celebrity there in your Aguay.

You can do media, there's really nothing else out of there.

You can do media, there's really nothing else out of there.

Yes, you can go with the carmushes one four or five since twenty fifteen. Yes he's a former title contender, but look, you know the truth as much as I do.

Yes, you can go with the carmushes one four or five since twenty fifteen. Yes he's a former title contender, but look, you know the truth as much as I do.

There's nobody at one twenty five.

There's nobody at one twenty five.

There's like two good fighters, so it's no surprise that Carlusch would get into this fight, and it's a syllable narrative of the rematch, just like at some point, if Katz and Ganal can put a couple wins together, she may end up getting an Amanda Nuna's rematch because she's the last one to beat her.

There's like two good fighters, so it's no surprise that Carlusch would get into this fight, and it's a syllable narrative of the rematch, just like at some point, if Katz and Ganal can put a couple wins together, she may end up getting an Amanda Nuna's rematch because she's the last one to beat her.

That's that's about it.

That's that's about it.

So they've got Here's on the prelim card, ji Jerio bon Turin taking on Rowley and Paiva. Could you pick either from a lineup? Giraldo or Heraldo de Fritis versus Chris Gutierrez, Cyril Ghane actually not bad versus Jafel Psau Nunez like I used to be the basis of slaughtering animals. They cattle decapitation is a real bad. But here's also on the card. If you sent you Luca taken on Mike Perry. I actually good like that fight fight and they have moved a thousand times vulcan Uzdemir and Ilio Latifi. I think this is the third time they moved it, if I'm not mistaken. Also, the last thing to look out for is hudelfo Vieira. Do you know judelfo Vieira no best grappler of our generation, ever, is Hadra Gracie of our generation? Probably Marcus Almeda Buschcha, the guy who was right on Buchet's Judelpho Vieira. He is first of all super bricked up, has won titles in the GI and Nogi has good wrestling, so he's not one of these jiu jitsu guys. A guy on the pull guard. No, no, no, he'd get one there and pick up put you on your head. He's a bit like, uh, who's a good comparison. Well, he's the opposite of Ryan Hall, who's a great fighter. But he's not gonna go there and just bear on you physically. Hudolpho Vieira will, so he'll make his debut in this card. There's some decent fights there, but down and up the car and oh my god, like they're just putting this together for no other reasons. So last question on this. If car Much loses and she's expected to according to the oddsmakers, but em it's crazy, Bo's assume she does. So Chefchenko retains her title. Cyborg's gone. So do they do a third fight between they will, thank you and nunas.

So they've got Here's on the prelim card, ji Jerio bon Turin taking on Rowley and Paiva. Could you pick either from a lineup? Giraldo or Heraldo de Fritis versus Chris Gutierrez, Cyril Ghane actually not bad versus Jafel Psau Nunez like I used to be the basis of slaughtering animals. They cattle decapitation is a real bad. But here's also on the card. If you sent you Luca taken on Mike Perry. I actually good like that fight fight and they have moved a thousand times vulcan Uzdemir and Ilio Latifi. I think this is the third time they moved it, if I'm not mistaken. Also, the last thing to look out for is hudelfo Vieira. Do you know judelfo Vieira no best grappler of our generation, ever, is Hadra Gracie of our generation? Probably Marcus Almeda Buschcha, the guy who was right on Buchet's Judelpho Vieira. He is first of all super bricked up, has won titles in the GI and Nogi has good wrestling, so he's not one of these jiu jitsu guys. A guy on the pull guard. No, no, no, he'd get one there and pick up put you on your head. He's a bit like, uh, who's a good comparison. Well, he's the opposite of Ryan Hall, who's a great fighter. But he's not gonna go there and just bear on you physically. Hudolpho Vieira will, so he'll make his debut in this card. There's some decent fights there, but down and up the car and oh my god, like they're just putting this together for no other reasons. So last question on this. If car Much loses and she's expected to according to the oddsmakers, but em it's crazy, Bo's assume she does. So Chefchenko retains her title. Cyborg's gone. So do they do a third fight between they will, thank you and nunas.

They will have to because the truth is Nunya's has cleaned out two divisions, and there's maybe one or two names you could throw out me and say, okay, they can build toward that for Nunyas and it would make a little bit of sense, either style wise or marketing wise.