MORNING KOMBAT WITH LUKE THOMAS AND BRIAN CAMPBELLUFC 312 Pregame Preview: DDP vs. Sean Strickland 2 Presented By Cuervo | MORNING KOMBAT
Another UFC PPC event means ANOTHER Pregame Preview. Luke and BC are joined by 'The Man In The Hat' Chuck Mindenhall to break down EVERYTHING about UFC 312. In the main event, Middleweight Champion and hometown hero Dricus Du Plessis looks to prove his 2024 win over Sean Strickland wasn't a fluke as he defends his title in a highly anticipated rematch against the #1 contender. The guys go deep into this epic showdown, analyzing all angles. In the co-main event, Women's Strawweight Champion Weili Zhang faces off against Tatiana Suarez in a fight that could shake up the division. Luke, BC, and Chuck give you the full breakdown on this battle, plus a preview of the rest of the card. Don't miss out on this complete UFC 312 pregame preview — get ready for all the action with expert analysis and insights!
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It's time to do Hey, what's up everybody? It's uh time, It is time. UFC three twelve three one two is just well, I'm about twenty four hours away or so we're gonna get drunk and talk about it here on a Friday morning. Hi everyone you'r UFC three twelve pregame preview brought to our brought to you by our friends. We'll don't get to this in just a second at Jose Quervo'. My name is Luke Thomas. This is the return. Yeah. Oh, the iceman, Chuck Minton, off from on, crowned from crown, and the hat.
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Don't you pour some sugar on chuck in the name of love? All right? You know what I mean? Do you know that was a song about.
Yeah, yeah, okay, it's important you do fight analysis that you indulge.
And you get lubed up. All right, No abos Britos after that.
You don't have to be racist in advance.
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Yeah, thank you, thank you?
Well, that is absolutely delicioso. If I myself smooth there, wow, I can.
Let's see if I can have coherent thoughts as we go through this.
Before things started, how are you doing? Why don't you give the viewers an update? We haven't had you. What was the last time you were here, and how have you been since?
Man, I've been trying to I was trying to put that together. I think I think it's before September because I went to that sphere card and I feel like I haven't talked to you guys since.
I know exactly when it was. It was it was just after d DP.
Is he You know what for a guy who was routinely not sober because he'shil marijuana, you're a memory.
Is good.
I remember telling Chuck that I hate CDP by sub over three and a half at plus twenty Ember.
That is right, That's how That's how you connect nowadays. Right, it's through like your betting, like your betting patterns and what you win. So but I've been good, man, I've been just kind of, you know, uh, settling in over it onn Crown, doing a lot of more writing than I got.
It's that look at that that namer they got for you.
Yeah, I'm talking about that is true.
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Yeah, it's been well, hold on, it's been him and Jed.
Who have we Andreas Hale joined us Andreas by the name of.
Haw Yeah, that's right now, I preceded all these guys. But yeah, yeah, well it's good to have you. I know the viewers missed you as well.
They while they like themselves, some jed. They were like, let me get, let me get.
That is great, life is great. But then I left that day and I got lice. So well, no guarante. But we are here to talk about UFC three twelve, So do us a favor. Thank you so much for joining us. By the way, do us a favor. Like the video. Subscribe to the channel. If you haven't, you can email the show Morning Combat at gmail dot com. We don't have any merch updates yet BC.
Right, no, and I'm sorry for coughing. I poured two shots in here and I look them at once like you.
Know what, but they went down smooth, very smooth. That was very smooth.
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One disclaimer though, yes, please, I know Chuck hasn't done this in a while, but there are their expectations for a show like pregame preview with this much masculinity at steak. Yes, Chuck, I don't know how you do it on your other shows these days, but when you join this table, yeah, it's real talk. Here we go like men do. Okay, Okay, So I'm talking about the truth. I'm talking about the truth about Saturday Night. Okay, I'm talking about That's why I want to talk.
See, we got to get the racism and the sexism upfront. Bro, Let's just get it up front, all right.
Nobody's happier for a Strickland card than BC Jesus Christ.
Okay, let's get to you FC three twelve. Now we've debated it on this show independent of you being here, So now you've got to weigh in.
Okay.
I don't think this card is that great, but I also don't think it's that bad. These jamokes they think it's bad.
It's nubs.
Where are you after the first two fights you're talking about?
Where are you overall on the main card and then the card more broadly, I'm kind of on the side of whatever, the jabokes, whatever, you just say.
I'm with those guys, I don't. I mean, I see some of the intrigues and I know you're you're probably gonna like a like a Cody Steele You're gonna love a guy like that, right, So that's all.
Maybe maybe he might be a little hard for Alison, you know what I'm saying the second coming this is gonna be wild. This guy, this might be the best pre game preview we ever did.
Ye already I think you said Pantosia, But can we fire Bryan.
And just replace him with instead?
So? I mean, they're good intrigues. I guess like that, it'll be fun. It'll be a fun card. I think that some of the fights will deliver to There's a couple on the main card that are pretty good. But I do think it's very very top loaded, you know, and.
I think toploaded. Where are you on the two title fights? How do you feel about them?
I love the Tatiana Suarez fight because I was starting to bucket her into the you know what if category and the z A beat. You know, then there's a beat thing where you're like, will we at some point look at her and say, like, what could have happened if she had just gotten the shot? I mean, we've waited and waited to see her get this shot shot?
Do you mean?
Or but it like yeah, that that fight to me, and especially because with with Wayley Jang just kind of I think really at her peak right now. To me, that's like as good as it gets.
In terms of you, could you quick, just quickly, could you argue that this is the best most talent filled flyweight title I'm sorry, strawweight title fight of all time. The comparison might be the first rose you want to fight in terms of like.
Table that because I want to circle back to gives general sense to start and then the main event. I gotta tell you I understand people who are like the first one wasn't that great. I don't necessarily agree, but I don't be grudge them that position. I have to tell you I think this one. I'm not saying it's going to be a barnburner, that's not my point. But I do think it's going to be better than the first one, and certainly good enough to hold your attention and make it an interesting context.
Why do you think it'd be better.
Because I think both guys have got some changes up their sleeves that are going to make a more action packed It was a split decision last time in like this trench warfare style. I think large portions of it will look that way, But the difference has got to be Ddp's got offense everywhere he can wrestle, and then he'll throw volume. I think he's going to turn it up here a little bit this time, and I think Sean strick also has to do that in order to win.
Either fighter can afford, in my opinion, for it to go to the cards and not and not.
If we'll talk about this more, but like it's a general view. If you don't win here, I don't know if you're gonna get back to it right.
And I think that's a very valid way to look at this. And I think that you know, I talked to Sean Strickland this week, or actually I guess it was last week. The peace ran this week, but he felt like he just needed to bring it more, which is kind of crazy because I thought he brought it. It was just a matter of the visual, like he's all cut up, and then you know, I thought which came from a head class, which came from a head clash, and there were moments where it looked way worse for him, like the harder shots were for dupless. So I had no problem with it. But you look at the stats and you say Strickland, which is this is always the craziest stat that he's the highest rate, has the highest strike rate in middleweight history when you consider all the guys who fought in there. But it's very much in that.
See that's what I mean.
It's almost like I think Eric Nixon said, it's almost like the death by paper cut type thing. It doesn't paint the greatest visual sometimes for the judges, they just see these little shots, don't really.
As a as a famous person, one said, what are you going to do? Point fight me?
You know what I mean?
That's like you got he's gonna have to bring he's got to raise the weapon RYE you to stay up on the Reddit side.
But I wouldn't be surprised anymore.
I mean I wouldn't be surprised. If there's a moment whereas he's trying to be more demonstrative that way, that'd be interesting. If he's trying to make it look like he's swinging harder or whatever, trying to do a bigger shot, it'll be interesting. I think that what if you're a die hard like us, right, you watch a lot of fights. I think it's in those tweaks that you find the fascination of this fight, and.
I think a small tweak can make a big difference. Yeah, doesn't take necessarily much. Uh, Stevemiocic going to the body on DC change the entire fight. Just a single strike selection difference, obviously you can have a big effect. All right. So UFC three twelve Main event, Driggs duples taken on Sean Strickland. I mean, I'm not sure or even where to start with all of this. They're back in Australia, which is really kind of interesting that they're back there considering one of the previous times that Sean Strickland went there, it was met with a ton of controversy, but he was sort of seen as like this beloved guy, and I think that has kind of repeated if you look at the way ends. I'm not saying DDP got booed, but he didn't get cheered as much as Sean Strickland. So let's help us out here. How did Sean Strickland become something of an accidental hero all the way on the other side of the planet.
That was something I was trying to figure out in that Piso's tone, because going into that and I think we all kind of related to izy Ada Senyez kind of being a you know, it's from the areas from the re in at least, and you know that'sary.
What's that you?
Oh, you guys, but uh it should have read in episode six by the way, thank you.
You bastards. But I don't even know what thanks for. The railing turned out to be a big hero.
I think there was just something about I think there was something about him kind of like pointing out that is he betrayed them or something. But also within the fight, I think the fight itself, because he was such an underdog in that fight and he started to take that fight and once it turned and remember the big moment he had and it felt like that moment like everybody just got into it. I I couldn't put my finger on it exactly, but it did seem like it changed during the fight. It wasn't even during the introductions or anything like that. It felt like it just changed during the fight.
I think it's more than that. I would love to know what you guys think. I think that's part of it. But I also think part of it is Listen, he says things that I find, uh, you know, outrageous, would be euphemistic. But I'm trying to understand why, like young Australians would young Australian men, let's be clear about that, would respond to it. And the answer appears to be they just love that he appears untamed, unrestrained, and he's even said it in your piece. I say the things that everyone else is afraid. So of course they're afraid to say it because they'd be like, oh, that's racist. But I also thinkpho and you could pick any of them. But the reality is, whether we like it or not, people young men, especially in Australia, view him BC as as untamed and they see that as a source of strength that they respond to.
He's kind of an American version of crocodile Dundee in their eyes. Crocodile, Yeah, in some weird way. But like the thing about Strickland is and you you definitely summed it up well. But it's like he throws enough grenades ridiculously in every category that inevitably you're gonna align with one of the categories the he's thrown. Like this week, he was kind of criticizing a media day the UFC's relationship with Saudi Arabia. So it's sort of like, you know.
As he wore the deny, defund pose the Luigi Mangioni.
Whether it's oh he's you know, he got he got bloodied in that fight against DP and kept fighting to the final bell and he upset? Is he on ousse soil? Maybe it's that they love the underdog, but I think it's also the spirit he carries himself with the way he operates. He doesn't he doesn't seem to follow anyone. He's his own. In this minute, he may be saying things that will make Dana White, you know, cringe, and then the next minute he might be supporting for Bryce Mitchell Fro. We know, but he's all over the map. But also like you got to give him credit.
Man the run.
He's on the guys that he has defeated. The level of fighter that he's turned himself to be is way more than I think a lot of us thought. So I think when you mix that with the way he carries himself, his identity. But Luke I did rewatch this fight?
Yeah yeah, I can I add one thing to this real quick. I think there was a level of his own sincerity. As much as you want to like, you know, if you if you're concerned to what he says. There's a level of sincerity, and I think he was going into fight. He had some you know, I think he talked about his childhood. There were some of the vulnerabilities to go into his scaffolding. I remember you pointing this out very well at one point, that he's with damaged human being, which I think people had empathy for other people in the world who are like, you know what, I'm not perfect, and they kind of there was this moment, you know, this moment where they were associating themselves to him. I think that that played a key factor too.
That was the most babyface he was.
Yeah, that was the closest he's ever come.
And just to add on top of that, he also has been something of like aspirational, Like he said in your piece, I didn't even imagine I could possibly reach the heights that I did. And so there's been this kind of like up from the Bootstrap story that anybody I think on that level it certainly would respond to. I do want to put something up on the screen if we can. This is the piece from yes there it is, this was, yeah, this was yesterday and I believe this was in the Australian Daily Telegraph.
See his biggest imbecile that says there.
Yes, I'm glad they're not biased.
Okay, So this is what is interesting about this. They UFC just took the cover and they didn't add any commentary. They just shared it. And here's why this is interesting Because on the one hand, it's one thing to be like, well, we have a speech policy where we don't tell guys what to say, and we also don't punish them and we just let people decide what to do. But that's not what that is. That is showing it to you and the thing says, you know, come why we would knock this guy out. They're showing you the controversy that comes from it, and they're trying to cash in on right. Yep, that seems like a next step that they hadn't taken before.
Well, they did put the dolly throwing in the promotional videos for you, okay, but that.
Act of violence. I'm not gonna treat words like violence. I'm gonna treat words like words even then. You're right, Hey, you don't like what Bryce Mitchell said, come watch them get knocked out. That is you're Barker's plea yes to come watch based on they're now embracing because I have heard through reputable sources that Dana White doesn't really like Sean Strickling all that much. Yeah, but you like enough to use the controversy.
Yeah, he also hates media enough to like start to be like, well, let's just yea, So now the.
Part is there if I'm wrong, say so. It feels seemed like they're also trying to be like, oh, look at this pearl clutching media.
Oh of course, right, I mean I just said yesterday in some podcast right where he's like, I think we're going to move the media section in the next couple of years, get them out of there, bring in all influencers, and then you know, maybe he said maybe select media can come in the private box with us, But that's it was the select media.
Who do you think you get the hopefully Oscar Willis?
I mean, just get Oscar Willis in an eight ball. You'll be good all weekend, Right, that's all we need.
I just wonder if you had any that's Oscar on an hour, what are you going to do for the rest of the time. I wonder if you had any reaction to this sort of where we're at now situation.
Like in terms of what just the state of the UFC.
Yeah, it's not, it's not. It's not especially tied to Sean Strickland because this is something to you've pointed out they've kind of been doing already, but I felt like doing it on a Sean Strickland fight week and then crystallizing in this way. It almost like this is who we are now.
And it's funny because you know, the Bryce Mitchell stuff comes out and it's almost like the opener, you know, to a comedians show, like he's the opener, and then Sean Stricklands. I mean, if here's their main event, that Sean Strickland shows up.
We don't forget when Connor did the N word on Twitter.
Just you know, it's not been a good week in that sense. But you know, never has I tried to point this out and the piece never has our tolerance for intolerance and that's the sort of thing been crazier. I mean, it's it feels very scrambled. I'm sure you have thoughts on this, but I feel like Jim crow South was a little bit worse. But we're getting there, we're getting there. Well, I mean in the UFC's era, right, Like.
The best thing about taking the media out of the sport entirely is it would be no one to question the boss at all in his methods.
My Lord at any event, Well that's what he would. I will say this, for they took Sean Strickland to Australia last time, and Australia has different free speech rules and expectations. He goes there and causes a ruckus. I didn't think they would bring him back, but they brought him back and he had his best performance and so he call this response and the UFC just embraced it. It feels like it's an important kind of microcosm.
About what is this Because people make the pro wrestling thing and I know we've talked about this a lot, but like you know, when they went for storylines that were a little bit more edgy controversy, they pushed it as far as they could.
What did they call that the something era?
The attitude area? Yeah, So I mean it feels a little bit like that, right, Like it's just kind of entering this new era of embracing.
Yeah, that's interesting. I hadn't thought of it that way.
But I mean they kind of embraced Strickland and DDP brawling in the crowd that time, which was the kind of the fuel a lot of ways to kick off this rivalry. It is a new way that they're looking at.
So then let's go to that direction.
BC.
Do you feel like DDP and Strickland have a rivalry or are they just opponents.
I think they're just opponents. I think the rivalry here is just this top end of the middleway division in this era, which seems like as great as these fighters are, I feel like anybody can win the title in any given night. And I did go back and rewatch the first fight based upon your urgings that maybe they got it wrong the first time around, that maybe they're real time.
And then the second thought, I thought.
Strictly say I scored it for DDP three to two in real time. I rewatched it, assuming I would score it for Strickland, and even though I liked Strickland early, I still scored it three.
To two for d DDP. I don't round change.
I don't remember in particular. I remember definitely the first round to me is a Strickland round. And then I think I had two four five for D.
I think he out landed him right in four of the five rounds, am I right about and the other one was super close.
So well the time takedown at the end of round right, yes, so I mean like I haven't gone back, I should have done that the same thing.
But I felt fairly definitive when I watched it the DDP one. But I do think that there, you know, if you're Strickland, I think he had a good He had a good uh you know, it's a good thing to have, right, like to say like I won for sure and all that stuff to motivate him. But yeah, I mean it was close enough.
I don't think Strickland did enough in the championship rowns. I think he was you know, I mean the cut mattered. Even if the cut didn't wasn't.
Caused by I could see the pattern.
But I do wonder be hindsight how whether the judge or a lot of us were over affected by the blood. It did come from ahead, but but the problem was DP kept reopening and making it more of a more of an issue. I just think DDP close stronger. He deserved to win. It's also interesting this week that ddps. I mean he let off the press conference basically saying I would have preferred that this was chimayav here, but if it's Strickland, let's do it again the seeds. Yeah, I like that right there. So I mean it is a split decision went over Coasta enough for Strickland to have gotten back here. Either way, he's here. I think he fought well in the first fight. I think he has an argument to have won it. But he's the one that has to make the changes in this rematch to make sure the judges are going to raise his arm because and give him the win that because it was close last time. But do you think the addition of Poton in this corner? And I forgot that Poton did unofficially sit in his corner in the first fight in Toronto. But now assuming that he's part in some form, even if it's just in the locker room beforehand, even if it's just fighting night in the between rounds, are we going to see a more offensive Strickland that is looking yes for the knockout, but really just to leave that.
I do think so. I think so that seemed to be kind of the one thing that he could stay focused on. Was that like that he needed to bring it, especially late. You know, he couldn't let up all that sort of thing. I think we will see that. It was interesting to me that Eric NICKXCK, his coach, had said one of the one of the key things in camp was to keep steering him off the idea that he won that fight. That keeps saying to him, you lost, man, you lost the fight. DP won that fight because he his default is back I won. And they didn't want to invite some kind of complacency to go in there and do the exact same thing. They wanted to raise him that ten percent or whatever they thought they could psychologically to get over that hump.
Where is DDP right now? With the fan base, with the sport he He came into the media day with a Trump I think was something I'm gonna paraphrase, something to the effect of Trump prefers or likes winners or champion.
Champions, championship, shot at Strickland.
Obviously shot out Strickland. You know, I don't think he really cares so much about domestic US politics. Yeah, he was needling him.
He's a low he very good at that is low key.
He is low Key a world class hater. He's a world class fighter and a world class hater. I know a world class hater when I see one. He is excellent at it. But more than that, this, if he wins, this will be a second title defense. He would tire Rich Franklin with two middleweight title defenses. If he does that, that's actually pretty important. He beat is either with something of a generational turn here a rival getting a second shot at him. That's when you know you're doing something special. Yeah, is he ready to be a big star in the UFC?
It's an interesting question.
Don't you sometimes think that this comes from like how they started, Because remember when he got that Whitaker fight, people thought, oh, he just bit off more than he could choose.
This is this is where it's a star cashing him out in some weird way.
It felt like, yeah, that's what it felt like to me too, And I felt like a lot of the fan base or maybe the perception around that fight was this is where everything cools down. Instead, he wins and that momentum switches, but yet an attitude towards him remains sort of like, well, I don't know if he belongs there. It's really strange, and so with each fight he keeps like kind of pounding home that he's legit. And I think if he makes it emphatic over Sean Strickland, especially with a guy like Shemaiah possibly waiting in the wings, who's definitely looks like a bulldozer, I think he could be, you know, because I think at that point you'd be like, dude, this fight is going to be bananas, you know, like just like contemplating, you know, his kind of downhill style, no footwork, get rid of the footwork, just going. So he was kidding, I know, I know.
Just as important is he in your eyes, the real UFC African Champion.
I mean, he's from South Africa, so.
We need we need an alarm in here. Every time BC does like a racist joke, and like the siren.
It's not even a racist joke. He's setting setting the rest of us.
Su I like to I like to falsely accuse him of racism to It's like lighting a little bomb and handed it to you.
Here you go, fella, Oh yeah, I mean, Luke, it's interesting here about this rematch.
It's interesting, Okay, I can see territory to you if or sober if you're not I can carry this? Would you like going to carry this?
I was just trying to entertainment out of it.
I was gonna say, I think that this is one of those fights where in terms of star power, it doesn't change much for him. It is a valuable win because Strickland is tough to beat.
He's very DDP is already in my opinion, in the midst of the top ten pounds four pound. Okay, so I don't think.
This is going to have you done a rankings on Yeah.
Yeah, I've had him rked.
He's in the crown, so this won't alter that.
It's almost like a whole serve. But to your point, is it time for us to think because I think he's much bigger outside of the US than he is inside. It has to be. Yeah, so maybe this could be that beginning for him, And obviously once he fights Chamayav and the build to that. CHAMAIAV does have a sneaky, huge fan base that really pushes the metrics. Remember Gilbert Burns and oh ma'am, I think blew up because he was fighting SHAMAIAV.
But I was gonna say, I don't think this fight necessarily it's extremely important in the sense of holding onto the title and beating a guy who gets a second crack at you who also was a former champion. That it's tough to do, but it doesn't all to the stakes in the same way that a fight with Shamaiah might and then of course the big one.
But does it right or wrong? If people that still believe that he didn't win, then I guess it rights a wrong. It fixes that, it removes the glitch of.
A especially if he makes it emphatic. I mean, if he's just able to go in there and do it.
Yeah, But isn't it kind of crazy though that? On the flip side, I don't think of Strickland as an all timer. I gave him a lot of credit for coming getting to the title level, for put having the type of performance that he had against Izzy, for being a fighter. I never thought he could be all that. I respect who Strickland is as a fighter. But if he comes a two division champion, adds DDP to the list of guys that he beat, which is very impressive. Some of those wins we didn't even think he could sniff out Like this is building a sneaky great resume right under our eyes just the same, even if we don't really officially thought that he was going to get this title shadow or if he deserves.
It visual of Poton beating him, though, Like I don't know how it did for you guys, Like just that big moment for Strickland, you know, just get knocked out. It was a lingering thing, and you know, I think he lost like a split decision right after that, Yeah, and it felt I mean, these types of things, and he's had like four split decisions. It's just really the lack of emphasis in some of his fights, and like we're mentioning him being a great striker and an elusive striker, but he doesn't put guys away. And I feel like those things he's so.
Good and it's such a big part of who he is. But in close fights, I don't know if the judges are gonna give him to it because I mean, look, be honest, he's not gonna shoot for takedowns. He's not a huge threat for high kicks outside of the constant jabbing of his teeth kick. And even though his boxing is fantastic his defensive head movement, is there something else he can add to his game? A wrinkle unlock something that can take him to that next level, so he has a chance to stop him or win with with no doubt.
I think Sean Strickland is very, very talented, but it needs to be said out loud, like whatever kind of bark he has, it's really people say, you know, he has no bite. That's really not true. But what is true is if you didn't know anything about Sean Strickland and you just studied tape, the first thing you would come away with is like, oh, he must have been inspired by Floyd Mayweather, because this is a doubtensively oriented fight. He is defense first all the time. He has good takedown defense. He doesn't really have any offensive takedowns, but he's very good takedown defense. He is very good striking defense in terms of getting out of the way retreating. We talked about this kick checking too, and I'm not this is not This is not a I hope everyone listening understands. This is not an insult. This is a compliment, but it is also a reflection of the reality. He is a defense first fighter and the challenge in this fight. This is why I was telling you when we started the show. Well, I kind of like this fight, Chuck is he has to break that a little bit if you want to snatch the title from DDP.
Here's the bold prediction. Remember when we were doing that, when Sarah Gohn was getting ready to fight France has Gone, We had the bunker, I said, I was like, you know it would be crazy is Francis Andnghano broke out the singlet and became like more of a wrestler in this fight, And we're all like, wouldn't that be crazy?
Well?
He was his coach? Who was his coach? His coach? Was?
I predicted that in the same string. Actually can't predict that? Yeah?
I did too, but we both like we had this whole discussion we were talking about this, but like who was his coach? It was Eric Nixon. If there's going to be something that you're going to do, that might be an added wrinkle, that might be it. I mean, nobody's really expecting him to do that.
I mean, don't we still say Whittaker was able to take down DDP early with some level of ease before that fight fell away from him. Do you think Strickland can learn that fast enough to make it a weapon, at least a plant the sea because that's what DDP did. He planted the.
Sea Johnny Evlin he was had in his camp and the thing that.
They did Wrestle ass Off and the thing they did.
With Francis was kind of trick him into like wrestling because they would be like, he didn't want to practice like defensive wrestling, so they're like, well, we'll just practice offensive wrestling. And in that process he kind of learned the defensive side. And he didn't realize. This was Eric Nixon kind of relaying this. I mean, and I've seen them. I've been in like, I've been in the gym there and you can kind of see them working on this. I don't know if they'll actually do it. I don't know if Sean will actually do that, but it would be an interesting wrinkle if he tries.
To do that. You've entered the extreme couder before.
Yeah, I've been here yeah multiple times too.
Yeah yeah, every other day. But I used to go there a lot in college. If you know what I mean too, you know.
You did not Yeah, you have been the president of the Scion is not not acceptable.
Do you guys? While I'm while I'll mention this and you'll you know accuse me of trying to start shit. I'm not, but strictly had that comment that drick is fights offensively like he you know, like he's on the short bus.
Which a word.
Yeah, but there is.
This on that bus too, I think and is rambling.
Yeah, I think he did. But they are teammates, so I guess she was going to smoke.
He did, but he was just he gets.
Well, look, this is a topic, right, Like we saw Winker and of Sonia sit down and do that podcast on a Sonya's channel where they're like kind of making fun of d DP is the best worst fighter, best shittiest fighter ever. But how did he win that first fight? By by being relentless in not giving up his attempts to try to figure out how to get inside of Sewan's defense. And even though like, I still don't get how some people think that first fight was boring or was bullshit. It was tactical, but it was high speed actical, and it was kind of thrilling out since he didn't know who won. But like, you gotta give DDP credit. He says raw and ridiculous as possible at times, but he's using the awkwardness to be affected effect.
Todd they're running downhill.
Any changes to his.
Game or if he implements that same same game, he's still gonna win over five rounds.
Me, I think some of the hallmarks from what DDP does are still gonna be there because that's who he is. But I I do expect him to make some Dude, he's a smart fighter. I mean he even said, like, I know numerically he there was he was outstruck by Strickland, but he was asked afterwards, like what was the key to victory? And his answer was volume. And if you just look at what he was doing, you can see him trying all the time and a lot might miss, but dude, he's just always on the gas, always on the gas. And that in MMA, which is an inherently offense oriented sport, that's gonna you're gonna win more often than not with something like that. And the reason why the second fight was Strickling is so important, I think in my judgment is you know, he's kind of always been like, oh, the goofy guy who just keeps getting boiled it. But if you can beat Strickland twice, if you can finish, if you can finish Whitaker at some point at some point, and I learned my lesson already. But there's a lot of people out there like, wow, it's not accident. Something accidental about it.
That's a good fight.
He's also switching stances throughout like he gives a lot of it. There's a lot of wrinkles that he does that are a big part of his game. He's sturdy, he's got a great chin, and he's strong. His balls with question punched.
To activate a little bit like almost like Frankie Edgerson's. It seems like once he kind of like feels he's in the fight, you see him come come to life.
I agree with that, but like we were shocked that he went five rounds as hard as he did. Again, Strickland proved that that the gas think is also not an issue. What does this guy not have? But also just really technique, but he gets around that.
I mean, he he reeled it in enough. You probably have done like and have you done like a evanalyzed the fight UFC he took it down because their copywriter users. Yes, okay, but I mean if you watch like Derek Brunson fight the DDP had you know, once he started coming forward. It was like throwing caution to the win. It looked that way. It just looked like a guy who just went berserker and he was just going after him, you know, like like somebody had stole his wallet or something like that. And that was reeled in when in a fight that I thought a lot of people would thought it would be more of an emotional fight. Maybe you would see some of the stuff because they seemed to have the bad blood. Ended up being a lot.
More technical than I think people understood it was going to be. You know, I think that's right.
But it wasn't boring, can you set.
I don't think it was boring. I mean it wasn't great. Thrilling is a strong word.
I was thrilled the final minute Poeton was sure, but like the final minute was really fun. And the way that it finished at the bell and you didn't know who won, and it's it was come on like it was a long outl Look, you always split the difference here until the damn truth. Okay, what do you got for us? It was a thank you very much?
Okay against you? I just I think thrilling? Is is it thrilling? Was it thrilling?
Would you say thrilling.
No, maybe the low end of thrilling.
There's a spectrum of thrilled, team thrilling.
Hey are I was considering sense this is the second fight between these two, that maybe we should do a shot. Now.
See, I'm going to say to you for the second time in my life, I'm feeling these margin Yeah.
Yeah, very good.
There, it looks great.
Yeah, a little little need to read.
Yeah yeah, lod up man, I mean poet up went in a win in a pregame party. I mean, you gotta you gotta go for it.
I have to get back on the train, and after this I have to go see my daughter at gymnastics.
So I've got a lot going on today.
Same. So this is true story, true story. We'll take a moment here to break. So in twenty seventeen, my memory is right, I was doing uh May hour and m m A B right solo. Right, But that's a mean you guys were there, but like I was hosting both.
The worst times we were carrying.
We were carrying.
We're carrying you.
But yeah, yeah, you're right, you were carrying me. So I did take the train every Monday every Thursday for fifty weeks out of fifty two the Mountain. I drank on those train rides home. I would literally go to Penn station they had a a little bottle of Yeah, Jack Daniels or something Jack Daniel, Yeah for sure, and then you know, I'd have that and I just sleep the whole train ride.
Well, those were dark times. These are great times. So this is a great time.
And then the jactive blows. Here we go, this is the good stuff. Mm oh right now, this is better. This is and that will get slurry a quality experience, all right with that? That is very good. With that being said, and he thoughts about how the fight goes. Actually, like cards on the table.
What do we think real talk is what he's asking. Yeah, I think we see in the end the fact simile of the first fight. I think the DDP will be too much to overcome. Probably wins on the scorecard.
Okay. I wonder if Strickland will get to a point where he opens up a little bit too much to try to either over compensate if he's down in the rounds or in general overcompensate because he's looking for more powerful shots. It's not going to be the spam the consistency. Maybe he's going to look for powerful moments. Will that open him up to the type of fire fight where he doesn't have the big enough weapons in it. Could there be a late stop a year for DDP is one up.
I think DDP retains here. Yeah, I do again. I thought Strickland won the first one. But one of the challenges with having a defense oriented style is that you can block a lot, and that's valuable, but it just over time. Do you remember when Diego Sanchez fought Martin Campmon. If you watch that fight, Diego Sanchez's face was all off. Okay, it was on UFC and Fuel TV. You go back and look at that fight's on five pass his I'm not even I'm not even bullshitting. Diego's face looks like it was almost halfway surgically removed. It's just like that. It is so fucking bad. And he won, and he won, and then when you go back and look at the highlights, he's missing, dude, three fourths of every shot, but he was just in the fucking guy's face. And the ref excuse me, the judges, I think, get overwhelmed by that. At it's not enough to just it's.
Just not enough. I think to sport that was a tough visual regardless of how it happened, and that you know was strickling. I mean he just looked like a mess man. And then and they've been harping on for the last couple of years damage being so important and even.
If it's close, it's going to go to that guy, you know, But.
I think so man, I mean, I want to ask you a.
Question about still Bronx still knocks?
What the hell is still knocks?
Like that name? I knew you would he is the one that still knocks.
Yeah, he doesn't text you ahead of time to see if you want to hang out. He still, like like our parents ages, just knocks on the door and shows about your house.
What mean these old people?
Can you know what I'm saying? Anyway, what I'm really trying to say here is great mind in the corner with Eric Nixon in the corner of stripling or the best. Does Ddp's corner deserve more respect? I don't even know their names. All we ever know about him is that they're willing to kiss Draycus on the mouth. So like, look, what do you know about these guys? Because you know DDP can carry out a game plan. They've made great adjustments in this evolution of his career.
We used to live in a world where if you wanted to get world class coaching, you had to go to the few world class coaches. But now they appear to be almost everywhere. You can get training, almost anywhere. I don't know much about them. I don't. I would be lying if I did. I mean, I've heard some stories, but I don't really have much to go on. Except again, I'm gonna say it one more time, there's nothing about DDP that is accidental. It could be somewhat surprising, perhaps liw percentage, given some of his things that he does, but it's not accidental.
And the day from his UFC debut, excuse me, he said, you'll remember my name on the microphone. Afterwards he was like it was all about like it wasn't necessarily a great level confidence. No, this was this was next level.
I felt. I remember thinking like the Trevin Gilds, like who is through the paces too? If people remember that Darren till right, like there were like only one other dude, is it Tavares? Only one other guy has gone the distance with d DP forget Yeah, he went that ship.
Yeah. I mean he's a tough dude, but only that's kind of crazy too, that he's put away everybody except for Strickland, who's a defensive fighter.
I mean, you sent me that quote he had about striking. That is ridiculous.
He was half so it turned out that that quote was from a bit he was doing with Nina Drama. So I think he was like halfway wucking around, yeah, because he was like, footwork is for bitches, and we're like, well, lomochenkom My disagree. It turns out kind.
Of in his own room though, I mean, because people view him that way, It's like, why not throw something like that out there?
Right?
He's technical in his own way. Like I said, I think it eventually will come to a screeching halt. But yeah, I don't know if it's this weekend, especially for a guy like Sean Strickland doesn't have big power, doesn't have big finishing ability. You're gonna let DDP hang around, all right, Let's get.
In the what does Dane to want to see happen on Saturday? What does the company want.
They don't want?
Question?
Again, these questions are irrelevant. This is not a situation where it's the PBC roster versus the Golden Boy roster. Everything is the UFC roster. It doesn't matter who wins, they win, right, It's not a question.
Of I understand. I understand the differences in the foundation here, But do you think personally Dana is like, yeah, I don't want to go another round with this guy?
Is Jamie?
Dude?
They put Sean Strickland another title fight. They didn't have to. They did it off of the Poular cost to win, like they win no matter.
What I guess is he's saying that Strickland is the guy that they want.
To what's a bigger fight for them, Strickland or DDP against Homsa.
Strickland.
I think so too.
But if DDP just smokes Strickland, I mean obviously that like they could change.
But Strickland versus Homsad is bigger. Yeah, but DDP versus Pooton is the biggest, right, And Strickland won't fight.
Poton, So that's interesting.
Stricklan won't fight Pooton.
No, I get that. Do you see anything deeper?
Emobov is like Pluto in this whole conversation. Man, It's like he's twenty eight, he's got time.
Do you see anything deeper of Pereira being in Strickland's corner. I know Strickland's trying to say public well, Alex hates h Drick is like, is there some type of thing going on where if DDP gets another win here he or if.
He beats Hamsa, he's gonna fight. He's gonna fight Poloton.
So I'm saying, are we like starting to plant the seeds for that because you were the guy who told us, Hey, by the way, guys, this story it might actually be about Alex and not is he that's true?
I mean crazy as is he always talked about his story after that. I feel like he really heard that. I think he probably did and got real bitter. Yes, his fighters are known for not being sensitive at all. I know about that.
Man.
You have to say, this Middleway Division is hot.
It is and I'm excited.
But one thing though that Tatiyana Suarez said this week that the real main event is the coal main event. Would you guys agree with her in terms of your interest level or is that false?
I love the fight, I don't think I don't think it's going to hold more interest for the broader audience, you know, but you must.
Say broader as a way to uh to like sneakily say the women there no audience like I don't know. Look which one do you? Which one do you care about? More of the fan in you and seeing the resul seeing it happen.
I honestly don't care in the sense that if Strickland wins him versus Hamsad is going.
To be No. I'm talking about what do you mean do you like?
Do you think it's a bigger fight?
Is the real main event in the card? And I'm wondering which fight in the middle names in the main event have bigger they're bigger stars. I'm talking about you as a fan, which fight you care about more?
I care about I feel like the like when they brought the women through to begin with, there was a lot of attention paid and I think it's a lot because of rond Rowsey. But his time has gone on, obviously, it's it hasn't held the same depth of elite. It hasn't. It's it's been a strange thing. But like it's also that there's been this replenishing of the m M, a fan base that probably came in around the pandemic or whatever. These fights, we go all the way back with Tatiana, all the way back to when she was starting and she was doing this. They're calling her Herbie, like the female hibib all that stuff. So in this weird way, you're like, you're still latched on to this idea, like, man, I want to see how she performs in this big moment that she's been trying to get to through thyroid cancer, through all the setbacks. But at the same time, you're like, I don't know how much it registers with the people who'd have don't have that context kind of baked into them yet I get it.
But I just think that even with the diminishing returns of late in the in the female fights on the UFC's roster, the fact that the divisions outside of one twenty five are going in the wrong direction in terms of replenishing depth, this is one of the best female fights they've been a long time. Like, this is a fantastic, freaking fight. And I have to say I'm a little more excited about the comin than the main are you really? Yeah?
Okay, Well give me give me the best reason why I should be more excited or anybody should be more excited without the coman than the.
Main because alone, just Tatiano Suarez alone is the uncrowned champion. Going back to twenty sixteen when she debuted and conquered the Ultimate Fighter and looked like this absolute badass ready to become champion, and I didn't even realize at that point that she had. She should have been an Olympic hopeful, was the national high school wrestler of the year, had cancer, had a really bad neck injury.
She found out about during those.
Doesn't get to go to the Olympics, turns to MMA and then embarks upon a dominant cruise like and maybe it's a battle bit that he will retire this week, but a dominant cruise like I can't stay healthy, but when I'm in there, I am super elite. And what's crazy is you could frame Suarez as well. She looks great when we see her abou who is she fault? But then you actually look at who she has fought. She's finished Carla Asparza, Alexa Grasso, Andrage. She's got a very respectable win by decision over Anina Answeroff, who was riding a four fight win streak and was looking to be a contender, like she's put in the work, but she's also missed two years here, four years in the peak of her prime after the answer Off fight. So Luke, long story short, the personal story of Tatiana Suarez, the young Crown champion who's actually the betting favorite even though she's been off the last eighteen months, is enough of a poll. But I think way Lee has the possibility of being looked at as the greatest, as the greatest strawweight of all time, and she's facing her no doubt toughest competition ever, and they're both super world elite skilled, and on top of that, I think Swarz is gonna run through gonna run through her. So I'm just saying there's.
A lot your digestive system.
I love that she said, you know, because Whaley has been really a bully. I mean, like the the Lamemo fight. You think of that one specifically, how just it was like an onslaught. I mean it's so one sided, but like how good she's been, but she was like, she can't, She's not gonna bully me and the CA I can guarantee that.
I love that.
That's the kind of thing you're like she's a dog, is wired.
With all the categories that you would want and toughness, perseverance like being willing to overcome. And then you watch the evolution of her game the times we have seen her, Luke, how dangerous is she as a massive strawweight southpaw good have movement, decent punching, but wrestling that's incomparable on the women's level and in a sub Michigan thing in house.
I think on paper what you talking about it is absolutely true, to the point where you could even like, if this went five rounds, I'd be like, oh, yeah, of course. And if it went one round and she got run over, I would also be like, of course. But what makes us fight interesting is I don't know how much I can trust. And I'm let me make a statement here. I'm not in any way saying this in any kind of pejorative way. I really hope people understand that we're talking about someone who has had a numerous amount of health struggles, not just with obviously, as you mentioned cancer, which is very serious, but you know, orthopedic extra need. I don't know how much you can trust the body to physically perform in the way which I know.
She can one night.
We need one night.
I agree.
If she doesn't get it though, if she doesn't get this night, that's.
The point where she had to fight against canceled. She had to fight against Vina Jiang Roba Cancer, and the UFC was like, okay, who do we book her against?
Now?
You know what? Fuck it right down the.
Front they from Jender right, seems just because but also they were going to move wayly against the against chev Tchenko. Of Chevchenko didn't get hurt in the Grossow fight. That was revealed by Whaley this week in an interview with Bizz Paing. So it's interesting that it seems this is going to be the last fight in Whaley's one fifteen run win or lose, if you take her words, if you look at it, it seems that it's going to be.
I mean, this would be a huge emphatic statement. If she goes through Suarez. I just think that people who paid attention, you know, in air and just kind of paid attention to Suarez and see her, I guess how I see her, how you see her. To go through her, you know, and just do that to her, you probably should move on. You probably should. I think you've cleaned out the division at that point.
Why isn't why isn't Wylie Jong more popular? Is it because of the inactivity? She fought twice but once in three once, it's got to be a big part of it. And uge English fans love her.
Oh the hardcore fans like are just ridiculously. She's so over ridiculous.
And it's it's it's crazy because I think this whole fight's being painted as a picture of perseverance for Suarez getting this thing. But if you really think, if you oops, I just turned.
Something off here, I'll help you go ahead, all right, as long as you and you guys still hear me, guys were the questions.
But when you look at Jiang, like after that fight of the Year that happened in twenty with a with Ohanna, it seemed like she might have compromised him. She loses the next couple of fights, you think that she's kind of being pushed.
She's gone.
But it's almost like a GSP type of like it taught her something that puts something in her that was like, I will never lose again.
I taught her wrestling too, just like round. Remember she had in camp and all that. But you're right, it developed a new resolve where at thirty five right now, she's as well rounded and dangerous in every level as I've ever imagined. And she's built like a freaking tank, like she's her ability to come back not just from a head kick knockout lost to Rose in the first tile fight, but to then get solved after she changed her game around and still came up that empty, then to go on the run that she's on now and she's been dominant since then.
So HER's I know I just talked, but holy shit, this is not You're right.
It is it is it is. It's like it seems like is if you don't give a damn about this fight.
I give a damn about this fight, just not as much as the main event.
He's got to pour you on his mind, like Women's MMA is in shambles.
Why can't we say that.
This is the best of what they have right now?
This is it's not the best of what they have. This is good, very this is actually very good.
Have a better fight they can make under on the roster right now.
They could make who would shift Chenko have to defend Harris? Yeah, you could do that one. You could do uh men on four O O.
Those are not Those are not actually better fights than this, though they're not.
That those are better fighters overall. Swarre Here here's the thing.
Okay, I have Chefchenko number one, pound, I got way Lee Took, I have five.
Scooch Jong Wiley. Wiley is amazing, but she's thirty five. We should not lose sight of that fact. She has been inactive relatively. Sarz is thirty four, by the way, well and again all that time off because of so, I think highly of their abilities in best case scenarios. But I keep going back to this, are we looking at a best case scenario for either of them? I don't think that we are, and so for those reasons, I have a little bit.
Okay, but even this case scenario, this case scenario rules. I mean, this is gonna be a great fight. There's so much at stake for both of their histories in the in how we're gonna I mean, this is it. This is the best of the best. I mean, this is this could crown the pomp for Pound queen in a sense.
Yeah, I don't think the winner of this is punk No, yeah, A little.
More okay, if Whaley stopped I will say stops.
She does. It's a little stronger.
Yes, I agree, both both names, both both of them are in the Yahoo Women Pound for pound. Just I mean so that that by itself is kind of a fun thing, right, Like you know, you're not going to get many of these types of matchups exactly.
And look, let's talk about that from then actual style matchup. You have the well rounded game in Whaley. You've got the grappling, more dominant, submission, more dominant game of Suarez. Although her striking is is not not for lacking. What happens when they match it. I interviewed way Lee. She seems excited about the idea of matching their skills in the ground. She knows it's going to go to the ground. But you know, rewatching some fights with Suarez coming in today, it's like you forget like she is, there's nobody on her level as a female wrestler, and may like nobody. And when you add in the submission threat and she's submitted. I think she only had three profights that that didn't end in a stop pitch. It is ninety percent of those are by submission, even though it's against way Lee. I think she has the type of game size, everything to just she can she could run through way.
Lee and I mean those moments where she was dominating Jan john On and and Lamosh, Like you look at those things like I'm talking about Zang Like, when you think about that, you're like, man, I love when you have what essentially comes down to two heads of momentum that both look unstoppable at the moments they're facing each other. Obviously, we've had such a small sample size in the end over the course of how many years she has, like what six UFC fights over the course of nine years, Tatiana, Yes, it's like you wish that you could have seen more, somebody pushing her the limits that you had to see her answer. We haven't seen that.
She would have been the champion if she hadn't got hurt. Way I think when Juana was champion, when Rose was champion, when all like she named them all and she was like, yeah, I would have been the best.
That's hard to dispute. Would I would agree with her?
She was on the Ultimate Fighter season twenty three, which was all the way back and ready for this twenty sixteen that's wild twenty nine years well, coming up on nine years.
Right at the start of the answer Off fight, which was twenty nineteen, and it was the last fight for Tatiana before she had to take four years off, they said on the broadcast that she was averaging seven and a half successful takedowns over three rounds.
Wild. That's that's that is fucking.
Balk and she fights, mean she she has?
Can she do that?
Mary submissions?
Yeah, it's one thing to be doing it to the Montana de la Rossa's and even on Rodge is a little well.
I want to ask you, do you think the ground game cancels each other out and this becomes more of a kickboxing match, or do you think that she can even be dominant against Whaley on the ground.
I think she can be dominant on her best day, on her best day, she can be dominated against anybody in the weight class on the ground.
Okay, forget best day or worst day. How about Saturday? How about that day? What it like?
I don't know how to answer that, bro, I really don't.
You think that we're gonna Do you think it's going to be a fight. Do you think it's going to play out like a kickboxing fight? And what do we think of their striking compared against each other. Whaley's probably more dangerous a little bit, but I don't think.
Will do that.
I mean maybe a little bit, but I don't think for long.
I think Tatiana, I think you're going to see some kicks that are going to be dangerous. Don't forget that rose Head kicked Whaley. Don't forget that too. That's a good point. Yeah, it is true.
But I think what's kind of interesting about it is like I actually love that the UFC made it this way, where where they were like, Okay, we've been waiting on the Tatiana experience. We didn't get it for the last two times. We tried, fuck it front of the line.
Just go And by the way, if Suarez wins, it's Durn next. You better believe it's their next stage. I think that's the one million percent they will they will make if they have, they'll make Yon fight, but they'll let Durn cut and get the next time.
Someone asked me yesterday, oh, if someone's like, if Tatiana Swarez wins, does she retire, and I'm like, if she loses, that's different. She might, but if she wins, it's like, now's your chance. To make money. Why the fuck would she?
As long as she can physically do it, she's gonna go for it, you know that? Yeah?
No, no, no.
If she wins, especially if Duran is the next opponent, I absolutely think she'll take that fight.
So it'd be a probably mid twenty twenty seven when the Durn fight happens.
What do you think about it?
Are you early?
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He means Jose, A couple of Jim Miller I think is on the undercard. Kidding, of course, go ahead, you have taus to share. Takeing on justin Tafa. Don't give a fuck.
Well, shaf is making his UFC debut, he's seven to zero of Brazilian and he's the betting favorite. Maybe this is just the beginning of his tour of Tafa, like Parker took that time.
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That's different.
Don't don't have a great degril of a degree of interest. However, to your point to share seems like listen heavyweight and needs some prospects like.
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Huge guy. And then there's Jimmy Crewe taking on Hudolpho Belato, which is the least necessary fight possible.
Ross Now, will it be an action packed unnecessary fight?
Yeah, Jimmy brings it, Jimmy Crew goes for it, and Belatoe.
Is hit able Belato Mma. Yeah, where's bon right.
Tournament in sports? Yeah? And then your main card opens. This one's a little more interesting actually. Jake Matthews at one seventy taken on Francisco Prato out of Argentina. But he's pretty good as well.
It feels like Jake Matthews like has been fighting in the UFC for like forty years, doesn't it. It's like since the beginning and he's thirty.
Years the moment that where he kind of faded out and climbed back, but I think that has that has yeah, kind of reached the limit as well. So they put some good Aussie fighters on the card, or at least I should say Oceanic fighters on the card, But I don't know that these are any like game changing kind.
Of killing I mean, let's be honest, they're killing me with this main card, like, I don't even care if the if the regular prelims, in the early prelims are like absolute local trash garbage. But if you're paying a pay per view, you should get five fights that kind of matter and some in the idea of.
Pay review, three is what the limit should be.
The idea of mattering has different levels, and sometimes it could just be having the hot local fighter in his market. But come on, dude, these three fights that opened that are on this card don't matter.
We usually they have some good swing bat at least like the Michael vinim page for instance, on one of the know something like that they've got something.
Or some interesting heavyweight. I know this is what the top of fight could be.
For the winner, said Matthews versus Prato.
It was like in a zero post they were like, shut down the negative talk, let's keep it going. It was like when road and was like, don't bring that up that injury, Morab please.
Do you think it's going to be a boring fight. I don't think it's going to be a boring fight. The Matthews fight. Yeah no, no, that's I think That's why I say with Cruton Belato, they're going to kill each other, you know, and justin top think, are you expecting that he will.
Bang or it's going to go three rounds?
We're going to be like, what, Okay, he'll bang his way to three rounds.
But you have been extra passionate at defending the honor of this card for some reason.
What is the claim was that this card is worse than the Saudi card, which I just really don't know.
I've heard that a little bit better. I've heard that.
I've heard that I think the main card is probably a little weak. I think the overall card is stronger.
Talk to me what you like about on that undercard.
Then let's talk about one of the fights that really stands out, which is the Alex Alexander. I'm gonna say it to poor taken On Colby. His name is spelled thick knees, but it's spelled it's pronounced thickness. I mean, his search, hisory is all paul yes for versus thickness. Someone asked me what I think about this? If you look at Taporia's opponents, this is the little brother. He started in twenty fifteen, he lost after his third fight, took a six year break, comes back and fights absolute fucking jobbers. So my attitude is I'm not saying he's bad or good. You simply have no way of knowing because he's beaten. Nobody that gives you any reliable information.
Right, that's well, And then brothers are usually called out. It wasn't an Alexander a million inco. Wasn't that his brother's.
Face, the one who's got he's got the Uh.
That's not right. Oh no, no he has.
Titus got eliminated from many fights because of this.
Yes, yeah, so I mean you don't know what you're getting, brother sugar, right Diaz?
Oh yeah yeah, middle Nugg Matt.
And Mark Hues. Folks forget mark Us fought in the UFC.
Right, Dan Miller, Okay, Van Miller Miller Miller.
Folks, go Dan Miller in the i f L was a fucking beast.
Who are the brother the lim my brothers? One in Belator Diego?
Yes, yes they both are Diego, but like they both.
I think all the pit bulls are related, aren't they like in some way all part of the same litter?
Uh?
Wow, let's cheer for one.
Yes, right, you know I don't think that was right.
Uh?
In any case, So this fight is kind of fun because Kobe Thickness is a protege. That is his name, That is his fucking name.
He is.
I'm telling you, I never saw weirder names until two things happened in my life. One, I joined the Marine Corps just all the weirdest fucking names and then got into ye. Kobe Thickness is a protege BC of Alexander Bolkonowski. So you're gonna have illiotio and in the corners.
Are you torn at all by this equation?
I don't think either of them are great? Is my my my like my low key hunch, But I don't know.
Let me actual you this on your expect If Toporia Big Bro is a ten out of ten right now, for UFC Fighter, maybe an eleven out of ten to be very fair, what are your expectations of quality levels, sustained success that we'll see out of Alexander.
I mean I watched Tommy Fury and I had a big expectation with his name and plumbmeted half brother, but it plummeted. He says the same. I would say that if he's a six, right.
He's like six of his brother.
You'd be if his brother is an eleven out of ten. I mean hopefully he's a six.
Yea. I'll feed into it.
I don't get he's like, I'll take a bite out of that, you know, I'll just.
Grab that, you know.
But do we know does the history of mopping up on the regionals?
What do we know about some bums? He mopped up some bums. I don't know what to make of that.
Thickness is no bum I will say that.
No, thickness is not a bump. But like up to this point, Alexander Toporia has been just beating up bums. And his opponent before last, not his last one, with the one before that, they call him loco. He's one and eleven.
Fooled by the record, Luke, speaking of thickness, do you prefer count losses against fighters? In m M A? You need to?
You prefer more cushion for the pushing. Speaking of thickness, Juke, I do I do? All right?
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No, No, I do know that he's uh, you know his jiu jitsu obviously, but like it's funny because I did two pieces recently. One I went to a concert with Diego Lopez. I went and saw Zach Bryant concert with him and like his crew and Cody Cody Steele. It was kind of it was in the it was VIP, but you weren't like in his dress room. You're just in this area where he goes through. You know, Cody Steele was among our little posse on that. Then I go do a piece of a rob over at Syndicate like three weeks later and he's training over there. So I was talking to him both times. I recognize that he did the second time obviously I met him at the first USh. Yeah, yeah, So I mean.
Was it the hat you think?
I think, I don't know. It's hard to say. He's he said anakin. I don't know. I don't even understand, like, but uh no, but he seemed like he's a very young dude.
I was watching him train.
I mean, the dude's pretty intense, so I think that that's gonna be a fun fight, just given like his jiu jitsu and all that. Plus he was on the Contender series and I.
Think he got a knockout right orright like, so, so he's throwing hands at the jiu jitsu guy. That's all.
Was a good Yeah, I love it. Man. I'm focused exclusively on this Wang Song.
Fight against Brazil.
I'm not fooling around because Song came in, he did. She came in with this look. She had the Alex Pereira thing. She came in with the hey she beat Valentina back in twenty fifteen and kickboxing in the same division and also looking spectacular in her debut. Just look like a menace. Does the joker thing at the way insas like has the full shtick down? But the way was it Gabriella Fernandez with the opponent that upset her. Yeah, the way that she succumbed in that fight was shocking. It was I know, a lot of the air left the balloon, but how much interesting matchup here? Bruno Brazil can fight a little bit, Luke. This is going to tell us a lot in terms of whether this was like wanting done or whether there's still life, you know, for potential for her to cut the line and get to the top.
Does this a like a Alex Peretta like coming in with the backstory on Izzy type thing?
That's what I thought you want?
Right like you want? Yeah, you want to see it. Sometimes you want to kind of root for that scenario, just given that you have, like this storyline that they cross paths.
You know, at one point she could be on the fast track, but she looked like a million books. What do you I mean, her game speaks for itself when she's not succumbing to that submission and getting knocked down.
Like she was.
Yeah, it took a little steam off. I think she can gain it back. With a big showing here. I feel like people are talking about this fight, which is kind of crazy. So I think a big showing. You never know.
By the way Cody Steele, Alexander Taporia and then Song Wang back to back to back fights on this card is what I mean when I talk about death sat Arabia didn't have this depth on the premium card. Also, it should be don to Jelly.
I want to cut you off on your also because I think one more thing should be noted about Quervo. We'll do that in a minute, because I really believe.
Okay, we can do it now if you want.
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To But I will say that this is a very sympatical relationship we've got going on here with Cuervo. This makes a lot of sense to make Cuervo and the Morning Combat guys, this makes sense.
Yes, it certainly does. Very quickly before we go, we have Jack Jenkins taking on Gabriel Santos on this card as well were which could be a fun contest. By the way, clause on this.
Falls, He's consistently this is what via cheslav orschav Yacht just show. He is consistently in bat chick crazy fight night bouts in which he gets his ass kicked throughout and then inevitably pulls a Demopolis like rally to get the win or not. But he's in banger after mister Fabers Dude is fantastic, Luke, He's an entertainment machine.
Once again, the main card sinks. This the prelim card, you fucking asshole.
Assholes wrong though Long Island this card.
You cannot you cannot sit here and tell me that the Saudi prelim card is better than this one.
It's all I'm going to say is we'll have to see how the fights play out.
But that's what he was better on paper, and Saudi was not a paper.
What does it like to be so wrong all the time.
That Chuck was a judge once in high court?
Yeah, high court, you forget you forget my resume. I think I lifted.
Your very quickly. Uh, crazy ass Long Island. Luke any bets courtesy of our friends at draft and how the odds or the parlays are stacked up, anything you got your eye on that the folks should know about.
I really like the spread bet in the main event, So Sean Strickland plus five and a half in their first fight. Two judges gave it to d DP forty eight forty seven. One judge gave it to Sewan forty eight forty seven. So the spread was only one and they're giving you five and a half here, I mean, I'll take that all day. Minus won thirty five on DK right now, Wow?
Not bad?
Okay?
And do you have a sense about any other upper down wins on this card?
I mean I got Suarez as a dog, so I'm feeling really good about that because now she was earlier.
In the week.
Yeah, sharp, money that went back to the champion. I will take that plus money.
On Tatiana Okay, anything else?
I got to think of the time I had I have the over two and a half in the main event. I took Jimmy Crue as a dog. I know people might think I'm crazy. He hasn't want to fight since twenty twenty, but he's also been fighting top fifteen lights.
We have that whome crowd just Buffel Ballato.
You know how a Contender series tuned in?
Is your dad of Australian origin and d s for this card on Saturday.
He's not tuned in at all. I tried to get HM hyped about it here.
How many times does your dad go what the fuck went wrong with my life that I left Australia for Long Island? How about that? Wow?
Probably not that often. I thought you were going to say, what does he say about my career? That he says what went wrong?
You know he has a sister named Jessica, named after the Alma Brothers song.
Is that right? It's kind of uh yeah, nice, true, yes, all right, yeah, it's like the million onion of a million skins.
Hey, can I do a little bit of breaking news. It's not really UFC three twelve related, just very quickly because we have the audience on the air here. You did get a statement from MVP. I don't know if you saw this. That's most valuable promotions. Canelo was supposed to fight Jake Paul the last night I pulled out. This is what MVP wrote. MVP was deep in negotiations for a blockbuster fight between Jake Paul and Canelo Alvarez on sinkle to my weekend in Las Vegas, a massive event for the Mexican, Puerto Rican and American fans, and it's disappointing to see how the situation unfolded. MVP operates with integrity, transparency, and respect for the sport. It's out, it's in the fans. Unfortunately, not everyone in boxing shares those value.
Oh boy, somebody's under the bus now.
And then he goes on from there, Jake Paul isn't going anywhere neither his MVP will continue to disrupt boxing on our terms. Okay with that, Chuck, Chuck, Where can folks find your work?
Primarily over at Yahoo's uncrowned site, the Combat Vertical over there, and I still post some stuff on the Myth m I t h dot com. So those are the two primary places I'm posting right now.
I like to go to Boston Scalley dot com and look at the myth hat.
Beautiful, beautiful, still got I say, oh yeah, I've still got to supply. So I've got like a replenished supply. So if you want to get one of the myth hats, not this okay, darker gray one, you actually have one.
I have one, fantastic do you have you ever been stopped by a myth fan who was wearing a myth hat?
Only one time at a fight? Was it the Sphere? It was? It was one of the more recent ones. Somebody did was wearing that hat. And Mark Ratner wears his all the time, Like if you see him wearing the dark gray hat, that's the one.
Let me ask you a question, did you see you were you were cage or ringside at Benevitez morrel. Yes, was that Mark Rattner who was there? Yes, I couldn't quite tell. So he was he had the he had that. I don't know if it was that.
He has his dark one. You can see it, says myth on the back that he wears it all the time.
I saw him. I saw him ringside. I'm like, that's fucking Mark Rattner.
I'm actually not ready to end the show because i have a key question that no one's answered yet. No, it's not disgusting, it's not decrepit, it's not unnecessary.
I don't need to hear prediction who's the.
Strawweight champion Sunday morning? I mean, go on, put your balls on the lot.
Via stoppage wow via head Norm triangle.
So here's the deal. She Bravo choked what she's calling a dars aby name Amanda Bobby Cooper. In the Tough finale. She was asked which submission at media day she would envision defeating her, and somebody said, well, what about that dars And She's like, yeah, yeah.
That dar so we can see that head Norm trying.
She said that would be like the full full circle right there trying. Would you please tell the people where you're leaning Suarez as well, Via.
I think it goes the distance. I don't like I could see it going the way you're talking about, but I think that if the further it goes, the more it's going to benefit her.
Well, look, I'm saying this backing suarezs aggressively knowing how great Whaley is. I know, but I really truly believe that Tatiana is that much I guess better, or is just in the right spot on the right time, even coming off of eighteen months. Are we overlooking if that's going to matter?
I mean, she's always coming off big, you know, hiatuses though, So I don't know how long.
She can stay healthy. I hope for you know, forever.
I feel it goes the distance. Jean Wiley wins. Really Yeah, where will she have the biggest success?
You think Whaley just in straight boxing or Willox.
Bick boxing range? Yeah? No, you're good, you know, why don't you just touch them? Yeah?
Yeah?
Inappropriately? I think Kate boxing range is going to be where she you know, in tow a extent boxing range. But the closer you get to boxing range, this is takedown range, So you got to be careful there.
Nobody has fascinating nobody has that level of combined wrestling and jesuit's in the women's games, and she's a finish It's correct.
I think McKenzie during to the cage side, ready to enter the cage.
Do you think her significant other, her fiance who is also in her corner, and that's Patchi Mix, who is publicly asking mister Don with two ends to release him from the BFL. Do you think there's any connection between if Tatiana becomes champion, we get we get Patchi in the UFC.
Trade awesome to get Paix, that would be fine. That's why PFL is not going to release.
I did see your colleague Ariel Hawane come up with a trade idea that was ros Nama units for Patchi Mix under the guys that Dakota Dichivo would need a big pay per view opponent to build to. Maybe that was maybe that was Rose and then on the flip side, UFC can get somebody who the PFL was.
An interesting idea with well, Rose is kind of where is she at you know in this on stage stage? Well, I mean, but also just you know, where does she really fit into title or anything like that? At this point, So that's actually not I mean, a horrible shout at all.
You know, I still can't believe did you shower this morning? I did not, But I can't believe that. Ditchuva ran through Tyler like that, I can't.
And I was like, I don't know if BC is going to shower.
I shower, I'm gonna wake up everybody in the house. I just you know, I get the day before.
What time do you bounce?
What time do you get sleeping in the tub? What the fuck does that mean?
I don't need to explain the breakdown of my living situations.
A shotgun house.
It was a shotgun merit and not just kidding definitely, Oh you know, Chuck, I just I like to drink delicious squervo and talk about great mma with people I really like and enjoy. So this is the room. This is certainly a lot of fun here. It's shot fun. You know, what do you I don't know, like I'd like to hear more about your time with Sean Strickland, if you're willing.
To share, you really want to hear it, I do. I mean I didn't really hang out with him. I just talked to him on the zoom does he turn off character?
You were going to.
Say, yeah, I understand, we'll do it.
He Uh. He was very in a weird way, like have you talked to him before, because he's very personal like he will, you know, talk to you as if your buddy, like he's going to talk to you that way and h but he takes everything from just a direct question of what you're asking about the fight, you know, maybe what adjustments where into some other corner that he was. So he's got a naturally digressive mind. I don't it's just it's almost like an ad D type thing, like he just kind of goes off where he wants to go.
Well, it's usually not long before he concocts a nickname for the media, for the media members that he's getting consistent with. It was really disparaging.
Oh white dude. It was not going to say to me, I mean.
I don't know, Yeah, that's what I'm wondering.
And he didn't say anything.
I mean, look what.
Sewn Strickland has a two time champion. That's I mean not not every two time championship is the same. Really on opinion right now at.
A split decision, imagine split exactly, and you would have five split decisions.
In their scenario in which they would delay Hamzat to go directly to the trilogy. Would it need to be a fight of the year. Would it need to be something, because certainly Strickland would have to win, But would it need.
To be like I think if it's close, No, But if it's ends up being a question of judging or referee error like that.
Draw for Chefchenko Grosso.
Whereas that that's true, that changes everything.
I guess you could run. You do have a one A, one B. I guess if you look at Imobov that way, but you could do Imobov right if that's kind of a title eliminator types fair point.
Do you think there's any chance that of Strickland loses this fight, that he will fight is he a second time man? Because that could be the right fight. That is, he could go, Okay, give me, give me six months, I'll come back, let me get some more, let me get one. I could see that.
I mean, I don't know how much what you guys talked about this, but I'd love to see is he kind of if he's going to continue, Let's go way way lower than that. Like just go back and get your motion.
Kind of like when Connor dm Dana on Twitter and want of Diego Sanchez after Cowboy?
Is that? Yeah? God, I forgot about I forgot about that too, Jesus, it's hard to remember the now he's just spitting on people.
At the wind.
Yeah. Do you see the last time that was discussing the last time they asked Dana about Connor The most recent time, he said he's not sure if he's going to fight this year after all. Wow, he said that. He sounded like kind of disappointed and like.
Well, I mean, who could imagine that? Hughes you know, Oh, he's just around the corner of readiness.
Do you think there are okay? But do you think there's conversations based on Connor being so close to BKFC and being like facing off with Stevens afterwards? Is there conversations of the brass of like let's just let this guy sit out as long as we possibly can.
Probably?
Yeah, I mean it's not like shape. I don't even know. No, it doesn't. I mean, I don't even know. That's gonna be the biggest problem. Can you get him into a camp and stay in a camp focused I mean it just that seems like a harder and harder thing as he goes on.
When do you think the last day of full sobriety was? And while it could sound like I'm doing a.
Bit twenty sixteen, I was gonna say the Eagle brandow era No for real?
Really, I don't know, not even during that babyface build to the Cowboy fight where they were like pretending that he was this great dad and no, I think he was.
The more they're pretending, the less it was real. That's a great point, I think you.
Hey, how about John Jones's big announcement, Yester, Yeah, I.
Was hoping for like you knew that was coming, though, I was hoping for a mean coin he would just rug pulled.
Yeah, he was like, I'm partnering with you.
I thought it would be that. I thought it would be that.
Why not cash to a girl has spoken finally after two months.
Really spoke. She broke her silence.
She did break her silence, But John broke our heart because we didn't. At the Aspen All fight, we got something else that was weird.
But what is a stupid sport we cover?
Anyway, thoughts, enjoy the fights this weekend It's been a pleasure to sit next to Chuck Minden Hall, who has been able to float between rival factions and MMA a long time, you know, acting like you belong wherever you go. Chuck, I have to believe you're a credit to the m m A community. I think that once you become a little older and crustier, you could become the Burt Sugar.
You think so, Yes, I'd have to start writing a few more books, but yes, I could do that.
What do you think about him as the Burt Sugar of MMA?
Get my fedora like that? I think that's a death sentence.
Well it ends in death's a cigar too.
I was alive. Like there's there's like donks watching in their twenties or like Burt Sugar. Who the fuck is that right?
They think you're saying Burnt Sugar like some kind.
Of that, we're saying Burt Chryst.
Yeah, that guy's that guy's one of the worst comedians in the world.
It's really he's not.
Really a comedian.
He's just a loud oath Yeah.
Here you fo this tradition of people moving to to Texas right now.
No, I don't know what's going on.
I'd rather be shot in the face with liquid e bowla than moved to Austin, Texas.
Okay, because because it was Rogan Texas.
Yeah, I mean I've lost track.
Man.
I remember obviously Rogan going moving.
That's a real this dude.
This dude went all the way out there to talk to Rogan.
I mean you had to enjoy think you know about your friend's life.
You know, you stopped returning my text, but you would at him a couple of times like, well, he's stopped returning it long before that. I've said this before. The one day I'm gonna reveal this. This is a true story. I can't tell the whole thing because they would come on a small group. We finished recording and we turned the microphones off and I pulled my headphones off, and I'll never forget. He said something to me right as I did that that I didn't think much of at the time, And then since then I've been like, oh, right, I know what he said.
Right, Oh man, come on, I'm actually five ft three. He's been going hard in the painting.
That's actually not true. I don't have anything personal to say about him. Joe was very nice to me.
You've been telling the truth.
Okay, yeah, telling dude, Telling truth is real bad for your business. It turns out your ship.
Free speech, baby, all right, yeah.
Not that kind of just the cover the truth. Women belong in the kitchen. Oh hey, put the camera on me.
Put the.
Young men of the world. It will be easier for women to want to kiss you if you don't visibly hate them. That's a free little bit of put free advice a fortune. I can prove your love life. Stop hating them visibly, and they'll like you more.
That's true.
There you go, take that one home.
Have you ever done anything discussing in a Joseph A. Banks bathroom?
I took the dump of my life. I also say, if you're on Google Maps right now, look at the Joseph A. Bank on nineteenth and M.
It says closed a north northwest.
It's next it's next door to La Boetia, which is like a restaurant. And I took the dump of my absolute life in that place.
I've noticed in a pattern of closed bathrooms wherever you're at, Like even this one here at the studio.
Is close at the boys gagging the smell. All right, all right, morning combats UFC three twelve pregame preview, brought to you by our friends. Hey, random applause for our friends at Quarevella. Ladies and gentlemen, random applause, taking good care of us, taking care of you. Now is a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. There you have it. Our friends at Querreva for Brian Campbell, for the Iceman, welcome back, Jackson of course bowling down, and Luke and all of our friends here in the production studio. I'm Luke Thomas. This has been our UFC three twelve pregame preview. Enjoy the fights. We'll see you all on Monday.
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