It is Monday, December sixteenth, twenty nineteen, and it is time donks for Morning Combat. Welcome everyone. My name is Luke Thomas. I am the host of this program alongside trustee Steed and co hosts from CBS Sports, the one and only Brian Campbell Bryan. Before we get to any of the breakdowns and the slapstick, we have to say we've been pressing, pressing, pressing to get the thirty k subscriber goal. Well we hit it and we passed it, all thanks to folks like you. So thank you. If you've already subscribed.

It is Monday, December sixteenth, twenty nineteen, and it is time donks for Morning Combat. Welcome everyone. My name is Luke Thomas. I am the host of this program alongside trustee Steed and co hosts from CBS Sports, the one and only Brian Campbell Bryan. Before we get to any of the breakdowns and the slapstick, we have to say we've been pressing, pressing, pressing to get the thirty k subscriber goal. Well we hit it and we passed it, all thanks to folks like you. So thank you. If you've already subscribed.

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Let's begin using you you see in the house jump jump All right, very good, Let's get it going here if we can. All right, h listens are going to be obviously, as you can well imagine a lot of focus on UFC two forty five. So let's put the focus there. If we can three title fights on the card, Let's start with the one at the very top. Here we go. Colby Covington loses to Kamara Usman. Another way to say this, Kamara Usman retains his UFC Walter Waight strap with a fifth round stoppage. Boy, there was shotenfreude on Twitter yesterday. But let's start here. When we talk about Kamara Usman. Number one, Brian Campbell, Let's assess how good of a welterweight he is historically, and two whether his approach ultimately was part of the reason why he won. Actually pitched to you first on that give me an assessment of how good you think he is and is that less is more approach he took in the run up to the fight more recently, not the buffet fighting where he got all crazy, but this last six weeks, last eight weeks. Do you think that really made a difference in the end.

Let's begin using you you see in the house jump jump All right, very good, Let's get it going here if we can. All right, h listens are going to be obviously, as you can well imagine a lot of focus on UFC two forty five. So let's put the focus there. If we can three title fights on the card, Let's start with the one at the very top. Here we go. Colby Covington loses to Kamara Usman. Another way to say this, Kamara Usman retains his UFC Walter Waight strap with a fifth round stoppage. Boy, there was shotenfreude on Twitter yesterday. But let's start here. When we talk about Kamara Usman. Number one, Brian Campbell, Let's assess how good of a welterweight he is historically, and two whether his approach ultimately was part of the reason why he won. Actually pitched to you first on that give me an assessment of how good you think he is and is that less is more approach he took in the run up to the fight more recently, not the buffet fighting where he got all crazy, but this last six weeks, last eight weeks. Do you think that really made a difference in the end.

I think so. Look how good is he? I think he's great. I think his potential to make a run at the pound for pound to top two or three. Here, I think he's showing you that in there by having a fight that we come for a wrestling match and a boxing match broke out, which was very interesting in the fact that.

I think so. Look how good is he? I think he's great. I think his potential to make a run at the pound for pound to top two or three. Here, I think he's showing you that in there by having a fight that we come for a wrestling match and a boxing match broke out, which was very interesting in the fact that.

Neither broke code along the way.

Neither broke code along the way.

He had one pump fake of a takedown attempt from Kamara Usman, and then you went almost twenty five full minutes with them just basically putting it all out there and saying, I think I got the better to gas tank, I think I got the better chin. I think I'm tougher that on you. Let's just keep jamming until one of us goes down. But I think for usman, it showed that other side of him. He had made certain comments in the build up, like I've only shown what forty percent of how good I am. I wasn't overwhelmingly wild by his striking, But this ended up being an even match in which they both put it all on the table and he was the last man standing. Because of the things that led me to pick him leading up, I thought he was more aggressive when it matters. I thought he's a harder striker. I thought he had more of a natural instinct to want to finish somebody.

He had one pump fake of a takedown attempt from Kamara Usman, and then you went almost twenty five full minutes with them just basically putting it all out there and saying, I think I got the better to gas tank, I think I got the better chin. I think I'm tougher that on you. Let's just keep jamming until one of us goes down. But I think for usman, it showed that other side of him. He had made certain comments in the build up, like I've only shown what forty percent of how good I am. I wasn't overwhelmingly wild by his striking, But this ended up being an even match in which they both put it all on the table and he was the last man standing. Because of the things that led me to pick him leading up, I thought he was more aggressive when it matters. I thought he's a harder striker. I thought he had more of a natural instinct to want to finish somebody.

Although this this fight never.

Although this this fight never.

Got to the ground, we never really saw what would happen. Would they naturally have canceled each other out with their wrestling, We don't actually know that. But in a boxing match he won out with those categories in the end, And this was a gutsy ass win in one of those like sneaky.

Got to the ground, we never really saw what would happen. Would they naturally have canceled each other out with their wrestling, We don't actually know that. But in a boxing match he won out with those categories in the end, And this was a gutsy ass win in one of those like sneaky.

Fight of the Year contenders.

Fight of the Year contenders.

I mean, from the standpoint of just straight drama and entertainment, this was at g your seat the whole time.

I mean, from the standpoint of just straight drama and entertainment, this was at g your seat the whole time.

Yeah, it was a great card and a great crown jewel on the top of that, you know, FI metric. The guys over there had made a point about the data. You look at what kamar Usman does, he typically limits to an extent what his opponent can do in terms of their output, and Colby was a little bit less in that regard, let's say, relative to the Robby Lawler fight. But the funny part was is it looked to me Brian Campbell that he was fighting at Colby Covington's pace. Colby was kind of setting in the tone a little bit and it had some success. It could have been two two, it could have been three to one, depending one's perspective of how they want to judge a heading into the fifth. But he kind of obliged Colby and I think beat him at his own game. Now again, we know they're both wrestlers, but in the way in which Colby approached it, it looked to me Kamoraw was like, all right, I'll match you here and that'll be enough of it. What's interesting about it is it's kind of a two way street and how you want to assess whether it's good or it's bad. If you looked at what would have been better for that division in terms of fresh matchups, if that's your only consideration, it would have been Colby Covington, because he'd all them explain he had only fought RDA inside anybody in the top five, okay, and he had of course beaten him already. If you look at Kamara Usman, he had beaten everybody already in the top five except for the one who had not fought, which is Jorge masvidoal So, to me, we'll get to the horgey part in just a second, but in assessing his greatness, you know when you can wrestle in a way against RDA where you're setting the record for the most amount of strikes after you've already landed ten takedowns, a la came the last kez levels of output. If you are obliging someone who has a high pace, even if it's not the primary portion of your game, and a title fight, and you win if they antagonize you by talking about your dead benefactor and I'm more than that a friend. But you know a guy who was a big part of helping to get the Brazilion the Blacksailians off the ground, and then talking about his incarcerated father. If you can keep cool through all of that and win, but you're doing something right, you are very special. He needs more wins to do that, to really just give some historical perspective. But what he showed on Saturday is here's a question. Is he the best welterweight walking the planet right now? I don't know how he couldn't be. I don't know how he couldn't be, Which leads us, Brian Campbell to the next part of this, which is do you think he will? Do you think he should fight form next?

Yeah, it was a great card and a great crown jewel on the top of that, you know, FI metric. The guys over there had made a point about the data. You look at what kamar Usman does, he typically limits to an extent what his opponent can do in terms of their output, and Colby was a little bit less in that regard, let's say, relative to the Robby Lawler fight. But the funny part was is it looked to me Brian Campbell that he was fighting at Colby Covington's pace. Colby was kind of setting in the tone a little bit and it had some success. It could have been two two, it could have been three to one, depending one's perspective of how they want to judge a heading into the fifth. But he kind of obliged Colby and I think beat him at his own game. Now again, we know they're both wrestlers, but in the way in which Colby approached it, it looked to me Kamoraw was like, all right, I'll match you here and that'll be enough of it. What's interesting about it is it's kind of a two way street and how you want to assess whether it's good or it's bad. If you looked at what would have been better for that division in terms of fresh matchups, if that's your only consideration, it would have been Colby Covington, because he'd all them explain he had only fought RDA inside anybody in the top five, okay, and he had of course beaten him already. If you look at Kamara Usman, he had beaten everybody already in the top five except for the one who had not fought, which is Jorge masvidoal So, to me, we'll get to the horgey part in just a second, but in assessing his greatness, you know when you can wrestle in a way against RDA where you're setting the record for the most amount of strikes after you've already landed ten takedowns, a la came the last kez levels of output. If you are obliging someone who has a high pace, even if it's not the primary portion of your game, and a title fight, and you win if they antagonize you by talking about your dead benefactor and I'm more than that a friend. But you know a guy who was a big part of helping to get the Brazilion the Blacksailians off the ground, and then talking about his incarcerated father. If you can keep cool through all of that and win, but you're doing something right, you are very special. He needs more wins to do that, to really just give some historical perspective. But what he showed on Saturday is here's a question. Is he the best welterweight walking the planet right now? I don't know how he couldn't be. I don't know how he couldn't be, Which leads us, Brian Campbell to the next part of this, which is do you think he will? Do you think he should fight form next?

Both would be yes right now, and I've really thought about this deeply. It's not only the best matchup to make from the rankings in terms of who's most deservable, because it's the only it's the only matchup, and without question, Mosvedal is mighty deserving. But the whole reason why you might think against that is the idea that Jorge Mosvidal's celebrity start at the moment is so bright and it's rare for somebody to get to that point organically. That is he bigger than the title. I've heard a lot of those arguments, and in this case, if it was ready to make something gigantic right now. Meaning if McGregor was not coming off of a loss, and it was a different scenario and you were ready right now to put Jorge Mosvidal in a type of card that could be your biggest selling card of the year, I could understand that, but we're not exactly there yet. And if you're looking at the standpoint of Mosvedal's brand, you want him in there against a Nick Diazer Oconnor to really maximize that and hammer at home. But the Connor fight is more of a fight to make, to be honest, after he loses, to have even the rematch, because at that point it won't be about Connor McGregor lightweight title contender. It'll be about Connor McGregor's celebrity fighter. And you can really cash in a BMF Mosvidal Connor at any point. Jorge still in that in that bubble right now that says not just a celebrity fighter, might actually be the best walter weight in the world if given a chance to prove it. That's why I think it's just a perfect setting, perfect timing. Also, the only really big matchup that makes a lot of sense where I think you have to do that because it's not just that his stars so bright. It's the way in which he took care of an ideas that that really made me go, Okay, he's even better than I realized it.

Both would be yes right now, and I've really thought about this deeply. It's not only the best matchup to make from the rankings in terms of who's most deservable, because it's the only it's the only matchup, and without question, Mosvedal is mighty deserving. But the whole reason why you might think against that is the idea that Jorge Mosvidal's celebrity start at the moment is so bright and it's rare for somebody to get to that point organically. That is he bigger than the title. I've heard a lot of those arguments, and in this case, if it was ready to make something gigantic right now. Meaning if McGregor was not coming off of a loss, and it was a different scenario and you were ready right now to put Jorge Mosvidal in a type of card that could be your biggest selling card of the year, I could understand that, but we're not exactly there yet. And if you're looking at the standpoint of Mosvedal's brand, you want him in there against a Nick Diazer Oconnor to really maximize that and hammer at home. But the Connor fight is more of a fight to make, to be honest, after he loses, to have even the rematch, because at that point it won't be about Connor McGregor lightweight title contender. It'll be about Connor McGregor's celebrity fighter. And you can really cash in a BMF Mosvidal Connor at any point. Jorge still in that in that bubble right now that says not just a celebrity fighter, might actually be the best walter weight in the world if given a chance to prove it. That's why I think it's just a perfect setting, perfect timing. Also, the only really big matchup that makes a lot of sense where I think you have to do that because it's not just that his stars so bright. It's the way in which he took care of an ideas that that really made me go, Okay, he's even better than I realized it.

Up to this point, he is certainly a lot better. But to again, if you don't make the Jorge Maswital fight with Kamar Usman, you have to dig into the top six, seven, eight, because all the top five. At that point are you going to go?

Up to this point, he is certainly a lot better. But to again, if you don't make the Jorge Maswital fight with Kamar Usman, you have to dig into the top six, seven, eight, because all the top five. At that point are you going to go?

It's the dude that Jorge gave the three piece too. That's the only other name You're starting to.

It's the dude that Jorge gave the three piece too. That's the only other name You're starting to.

Fight, like the Pedicies and the ds. At that point, it really begins to make not a whole lot of sense. So we'll see what happens. Shout out to Leon Edwards. That's why I'm forgetting his name. But of course Kamar already beat him, tom Are, this is the point. It kind of dominated him along the way as well. Here's the thing about getting Masvedal again. I go back to the fight metric numbers. How good is Masvidal? As I've said this a million times, he is good at everything. He can wrestle, he can strike, he can box. But what was the BMF title all about? Many many many things? But from a fighting standpoint, it wasn't anti wrestling. It was against guys who had done what Tomorrow had done dot dot dot up until Saturday night. It was guys who are real heavy on position control. And to be fair, it was actually a little bit more Colby than Kmorrow because Tomorrow, unlike Colby, does a lot of ground and pound, So not exactly fair in that sense. But if you just look at some of his long three five round decisions, there is obviously an element of criticism there. That's the interesting part here. I wonder if the UFC might say, well, okay, maybe he was that, but look at what he just did against Colby, comingon, going for almost the full five rounds, absolutely utterly the entire time on his feet. He was quite hittable. But also he was doing great work himself, big power, as you noted, great gas tank the whole time.

Fight, like the Pedicies and the ds. At that point, it really begins to make not a whole lot of sense. So we'll see what happens. Shout out to Leon Edwards. That's why I'm forgetting his name. But of course Kamar already beat him, tom Are, this is the point. It kind of dominated him along the way as well. Here's the thing about getting Masvedal again. I go back to the fight metric numbers. How good is Masvidal? As I've said this a million times, he is good at everything. He can wrestle, he can strike, he can box. But what was the BMF title all about? Many many many things? But from a fighting standpoint, it wasn't anti wrestling. It was against guys who had done what Tomorrow had done dot dot dot up until Saturday night. It was guys who are real heavy on position control. And to be fair, it was actually a little bit more Colby than Kmorrow because Tomorrow, unlike Colby, does a lot of ground and pound, So not exactly fair in that sense. But if you just look at some of his long three five round decisions, there is obviously an element of criticism there. That's the interesting part here. I wonder if the UFC might say, well, okay, maybe he was that, but look at what he just did against Colby, comingon, going for almost the full five rounds, absolutely utterly the entire time on his feet. He was quite hittable. But also he was doing great work himself, big power, as you noted, great gas tank the whole time.

And I don't think Colby was really ever hitting him with something that was giving him too much danger, giving him a reason not to stay in there and try it out.

And I don't think Colby was really ever hitting him with something that was giving him too much danger, giving him a reason not to stay in there and try it out.

Rocks. I think he caught Kamarw a couple of times when he wasn't prepared for it and literally stumbled him. And also maybe stung him a little bit. I'm sure the punch is hurt, but you're right, never anything to dissuade him. Also, if you've ever seen any Kamorrow sparring videos with guys like Michael Johnson other ones, he loves to get zinged a little bit and then just drive back into which is kind of exactly what we saw on the end. But here's my point. If you're Masvidol. While I do believe that Kamaro got a bit of a bump from this fight, bigger bump than he got from Woodley, by the way, because it was the main event and it was Colby raising the stakes in the way that he had. If you just looked at what the after fight talk was, it was really about sticking it to Colby. Whether that's fair or not we'll talk about in a minute. It wasn't exactly in huge praise of kamorw It was in praise of the job Kamaru did.

Rocks. I think he caught Kamarw a couple of times when he wasn't prepared for it and literally stumbled him. And also maybe stung him a little bit. I'm sure the punch is hurt, but you're right, never anything to dissuade him. Also, if you've ever seen any Kamorrow sparring videos with guys like Michael Johnson other ones, he loves to get zinged a little bit and then just drive back into which is kind of exactly what we saw on the end. But here's my point. If you're Masvidol. While I do believe that Kamaro got a bit of a bump from this fight, bigger bump than he got from Woodley, by the way, because it was the main event and it was Colby raising the stakes in the way that he had. If you just looked at what the after fight talk was, it was really about sticking it to Colby. Whether that's fair or not we'll talk about in a minute. It wasn't exactly in huge praise of kamorw It was in praise of the job Kamaru did.

So I do think why wouldn't Jorge do anything else?

So I do think why wouldn't Jorge do anything else?

I mean, do you think he willingly wants to go out of his way to fight a guy who can completely potentially neutralize him.

I mean, do you think he willingly wants to go out of his way to fight a guy who can completely potentially neutralize him.

That's my whole point. It's like, if you're Jorge Masmado. You can wrestle and you can strike. But the data on him has been if guys can spam him with takedown attempts, he doesn't get overwhelmed the bore where he gets choked out and like you know, beatn to a pulp, but he might lose a decision.

That's my whole point. It's like, if you're Jorge Masmado. You can wrestle and you can strike. But the data on him has been if guys can spam him with takedown attempts, he doesn't get overwhelmed the bore where he gets choked out and like you know, beatn to a pulp, but he might lose a decision.

I think from a mark and I always try to stay in the mind the headspace of what is UFC thinking, because obviously they're always thinking with the bottom line first and the metrics and the financials and all that. Do you think that Mazaveda would be damaged from the kind of potential one sided loss he could face against Uzman where it would hurt you moving forward if you want to match him against a Nick Diez or against a Conom McGregor in the future.

I think from a mark and I always try to stay in the mind the headspace of what is UFC thinking, because obviously they're always thinking with the bottom line first and the metrics and the financials and all that. Do you think that Mazaveda would be damaged from the kind of potential one sided loss he could face against Uzman where it would hurt you moving forward if you want to match him against a Nick Diez or against a Conom McGregor in the future.

I don't think it necessarily would.

I don't think it necessarily would.

I don't think it was I don't think it would be well, it would be an uh and before and after thing. Whereas before we have allos interests, now we have none. I don't think it necessarily helps his brand if he goes to there and fights Kamar Usman and then survives and has a moment here or there, but ultimately just gets out wrestled by this big, strong, incredible guy. But if I'm Masadol's people, and I spoke to them on the night of two forty four and I asked for them, what's next, Kolby's got to be next to few wins. They're like, Nope, not next, And I was thinking, why why not? They're like, we want the biggest money possible. Do the biggest money possible. If you or if you're right, which is connor Go Seroni, then Habib and then one seventy. If you're right in that, Maswoal is gonna sit out, and it puts the uc AN uncomfortable position because now they're like, well, Kamaru is clearly our best one seventy, Masveal may not want to fight him. Now Mazdol might because he wants that title. So it could get a little complicated there. But if Maswell decides to sit out, then you have kamorw fighting people who are totally out of their doubt.

I don't think it was I don't think it would be well, it would be an uh and before and after thing. Whereas before we have allos interests, now we have none. I don't think it necessarily helps his brand if he goes to there and fights Kamar Usman and then survives and has a moment here or there, but ultimately just gets out wrestled by this big, strong, incredible guy. But if I'm Masadol's people, and I spoke to them on the night of two forty four and I asked for them, what's next, Kolby's got to be next to few wins. They're like, Nope, not next, And I was thinking, why why not? They're like, we want the biggest money possible. Do the biggest money possible. If you or if you're right, which is connor Go Seroni, then Habib and then one seventy. If you're right in that, Maswoal is gonna sit out, and it puts the uc AN uncomfortable position because now they're like, well, Kamaru is clearly our best one seventy, Masveal may not want to fight him. Now Mazdol might because he wants that title. So it could get a little complicated there. But if Maswell decides to sit out, then you have kamorw fighting people who are totally out of their doubt.

It's got to be Masvidal next. I want to talk about Colby. I know you do too, so I want to interrupt even say this. There were a lot of moral victories on this card. I thought a lot of people fared so well in defeat that raise their own stock hashtag joseialdo damn right.

It's got to be Masvidal next. I want to talk about Colby. I know you do too, so I want to interrupt even say this. There were a lot of moral victories on this card. I thought a lot of people fared so well in defeat that raise their own stock hashtag joseialdo damn right.

Colby once again proved a lot to me, you know what I mean?

Colby once again proved a lot to me, you know what I mean?

First, it's like, can this style work against certain guys? And I was a guy's like, well, Robbie Waller's gonna step in and break this chain, right, No, he wins it. I wouldn't have guessed that Kolby was that tough to do that for nearly twenty five minutes and fight at that level and fight through a broken jaw the final two plus round.

First, it's like, can this style work against certain guys? And I was a guy's like, well, Robbie Waller's gonna step in and break this chain, right, No, he wins it. I wouldn't have guessed that Kolby was that tough to do that for nearly twenty five minutes and fight at that level and fight through a broken jaw the final two plus round.

How'd you have it heading into the fifth?

How'd you have it heading into the fifth?

I had it three to one Kamorrow, with full knowledge that one to two of those rounds could easily be flipped, because for the most part it was on even terms, and there were some rounds where Covington's volume may have edged the fact that I thought Kamoraw was landing the bigger punches. Yes, and there were two key moments where I think right hands showed Colby visually hurt for a brief second, But that was the only sort of data we were collecting from the idea of who's landing more damaging shots. So I was fine on three to one tomorrow. I know that the scorecards were one slightly for kamoraw one for Colby and one even at that point, but huge moral victory from.

I had it three to one Kamorrow, with full knowledge that one to two of those rounds could easily be flipped, because for the most part it was on even terms, and there were some rounds where Covington's volume may have edged the fact that I thought Kamoraw was landing the bigger punches. Yes, and there were two key moments where I think right hands showed Colby visually hurt for a brief second, But that was the only sort of data we were collecting from the idea of who's landing more damaging shots. So I was fine on three to one tomorrow. I know that the scorecards were one slightly for kamoraw one for Colby and one even at that point, but huge moral victory from.

The standpoint that I had sort of set.

The standpoint that I had sort of set.

Up a scenario that would be all or nothing for Colby, meaning he bet on himself. The last two years went with this ridiculous character trying to get everybody mad, trying to raise his stock, pissed off Dan White, pissing off anybody, and it would only pay off if he won the championship, right because I assumed he would go down in a if he didn't win. I assumed he would go down, the plane would go on with flames. It didn't know he actually raised his stock. And I think there are plenty of marketable matchups moving forward you can make with him kind of going across a couple different vias.

Up a scenario that would be all or nothing for Colby, meaning he bet on himself. The last two years went with this ridiculous character trying to get everybody mad, trying to raise his stock, pissed off Dan White, pissing off anybody, and it would only pay off if he won the championship, right because I assumed he would go down in a if he didn't win. I assumed he would go down, the plane would go on with flames. It didn't know he actually raised his stock. And I think there are plenty of marketable matchups moving forward you can make with him kind of going across a couple different vias.

J you know, White even saying he liked the idea of Colby versus Tyron Woodley got to be on honest.

J you know, White even saying he liked the idea of Colby versus Tyron Woodley got to be on honest.

So do I appropriate with that backstory where it could get a little gross and dirty there.

So do I appropriate with that backstory where it could get a little gross and dirty there.

Like like right here.

Like like right here.

Don't want you to lose your notes for slapstick Hour real quickly though, let's get to it here, not quickly.

Don't want you to lose your notes for slapstick Hour real quickly though, let's get to it here, not quickly.

Let's hang in here, don't be Jay Is.

Let's hang in here, don't be Jay Is.

Let's go and talk about bellatur prelims. No, we're talking about the main event. Hold on Colby, should we feel sorry for him? Now? I absolutely think you're right about the moral victory there. I mean again, the judges had it three to one one three two two. I mean this was very, very close. I do agree that when Kamaru hit Colby it seemed to move him in a way that wasn't exactly the same. And again Kamorrow had that big third round before he had the big fifth round. So to me, I think I had it here two two or three one. I stopped scoring after the first two and I had it split at that point. But the point being is I thought, I thought for sure the knives were going to come out, and they did come for him. Everybody was taking a shot at him, And the fact that he had his jaw broken is sort of like Mma God saying something about he just cut under his eye too. But the reality is, in terms of what he showed, he made you believe that number one Another time with Kamaru, if he makes some adjustments, he might be able to win you certainly like his chances against anybody else in that top five for sure. I will say this though. I saw people being like, oh, you're going to kick a guy while he's down, Well, no, I'm not. I mean, the guy broke his jaw, but he would deserve it. He broke his jaw, showing legendary heart. So as a competitor, as a guy who observes competitors, you look at that and that is just elite level stuff and there's no other way to describe it other than that. But dude, this guy went out of his way to say incendiary things about dead people, about people's family, and incarcerated people. He made fun of Matthews for getting hit by a train.

Let's go and talk about bellatur prelims. No, we're talking about the main event. Hold on Colby, should we feel sorry for him? Now? I absolutely think you're right about the moral victory there. I mean again, the judges had it three to one one three two two. I mean this was very, very close. I do agree that when Kamaru hit Colby it seemed to move him in a way that wasn't exactly the same. And again Kamorrow had that big third round before he had the big fifth round. So to me, I think I had it here two two or three one. I stopped scoring after the first two and I had it split at that point. But the point being is I thought, I thought for sure the knives were going to come out, and they did come for him. Everybody was taking a shot at him, And the fact that he had his jaw broken is sort of like Mma God saying something about he just cut under his eye too. But the reality is, in terms of what he showed, he made you believe that number one Another time with Kamaru, if he makes some adjustments, he might be able to win you certainly like his chances against anybody else in that top five for sure. I will say this though. I saw people being like, oh, you're going to kick a guy while he's down, Well, no, I'm not. I mean, the guy broke his jaw, but he would deserve it. He broke his jaw, showing legendary heart. So as a competitor, as a guy who observes competitors, you look at that and that is just elite level stuff and there's no other way to describe it other than that. But dude, this guy went out of his way to say incendiary things about dead people, about people's family, and incarcerated people. He made fun of Matthews for getting hit by a train.

He tows the line on racial stuff to a lot.

He tows the line on racial stuff to a lot.

Yeah, he cosplays as an alt right troll, let's be honest, and so when he leaned into that character, he knew exactly what was going to happen, and he just did it anyway. It's not in me to say, oh, I'm so glad he's hurt, because I'm not. I take no joy in it. But if you feel like you want to say something about it, you are well within your right.

Yeah, he cosplays as an alt right troll, let's be honest, and so when he leaned into that character, he knew exactly what was going to happen, and he just did it anyway. It's not in me to say, oh, I'm so glad he's hurt, because I'm not. I take no joy in it. But if you feel like you want to say something about it, you are well within your right.

Soow I thought the stoppage was fine given the knowledge we knew about the jaw. His face was a grotesque, swollen mess. I get there's an argument, Hey man, there's ten seconds ago in this by.

Soow I thought the stoppage was fine given the knowledge we knew about the jaw. His face was a grotesque, swollen mess. I get there's an argument, Hey man, there's ten seconds ago in this by.

The head thing.

The head thing.

You give him a chance.

You give him a chance.

It was bad, But I really think that the referee had it full in his rights given the danger you saw on his face, even with ten seconds ago. It kind of harkens back to Chavez and Meldrick Taylor, where it's like, man, just let him finish.

It was bad, But I really think that the referee had it full in his rights given the danger you saw on his face, even with ten seconds ago. It kind of harkens back to Chavez and Meldrick Taylor, where it's like, man, just let him finish.

See what the scorecards would have been.

See what the scorecards would have been.

I was fine with that Monday morning quarterback, though, are you fine in hindsight with his strategy in the sense that look, I almost feel like he Colby was outgunned in every category by a guy who's slightly better than him in my eyes, in every single category. Looking back, Should he have tried to wrestle rather than just go out there and say, I think my guest tanks can outwork you, and in the end, whether it's decision to knock out, I believe in myself that I can win this fight.

I was fine with that Monday morning quarterback, though, are you fine in hindsight with his strategy in the sense that look, I almost feel like he Colby was outgunned in every category by a guy who's slightly better than him in my eyes, in every single category. Looking back, Should he have tried to wrestle rather than just go out there and say, I think my guest tanks can outwork you, and in the end, whether it's decision to knock out, I believe in myself that I can win this fight.

He couldn't do it.

He couldn't do it.

I suspect if they meet a second time there will be some adjustments like that. It's just this time going in. Maybe he had an injury, maybe he felt like it'd be better for him in the long term. Maybe he thought he could just get his pace going. He made a series of assumptions. I think some of them played out and some of them didn't, so he paid for it in the end. In terms of the stoppage, I'm not mad at Mark Goddard in the sense that he saw Colby get dropped twice and then reach out with his hands grabbing a secret and then you know his face where it was down. So you see that and you're not moving I get why the referee would intervene on.

I suspect if they meet a second time there will be some adjustments like that. It's just this time going in. Maybe he had an injury, maybe he felt like it'd be better for him in the long term. Maybe he thought he could just get his pace going. He made a series of assumptions. I think some of them played out and some of them didn't, so he paid for it in the end. In terms of the stoppage, I'm not mad at Mark Goddard in the sense that he saw Colby get dropped twice and then reach out with his hands grabbing a secret and then you know his face where it was down. So you see that and you're not moving I get why the referee would intervene on.

You see that script you go for the sea block.

You see that script you go for the sea block.

That's what I'm.

That's what I'm.

Touching, and so I got that a little bit. On the other hand, the punches to the back of their heads, it's a problem in mma, you know, generally, I don't think Kamora is a dirty fighter, and Colby was still kind of in it a little bit when when they immediately stopped. So, but that's just material you can sell for a rematch. Also, again, Colby handling it not with a terrible degree.

Touching, and so I got that a little bit. On the other hand, the punches to the back of their heads, it's a problem in mma, you know, generally, I don't think Kamora is a dirty fighter, and Colby was still kind of in it a little bit when when they immediately stopped. So, but that's just material you can sell for a rematch. Also, again, Colby handling it not with a terrible degree.

I respect him running out of the cage. It's on brand for the King, no, but about.

I respect him running out of the cage. It's on brand for the King, no, but about.

The tweet to Mark Goddard. Yes, you know, it's like I mean, I just.

The tweet to Mark Goddard. Yes, you know, it's like I mean, I just.

I felt this whole week by the way that Colby was getting sick of this act, of having to do this act, and I thought a victory would have got would have allowed him at the point to just be like, look, guys, it was an act. I'm done with it.

I felt this whole week by the way that Colby was getting sick of this act, of having to do this act, and I thought a victory would have got would have allowed him at the point to just be like, look, guys, it was an act. I'm done with it.

I made some money.

I made some money.

He was dying to tell the world that it was.

He was dying to tell the world that it was.

Yeah, and I felt like it's going to be interesting moving forward, how much he commits to that character to try to stay relevant, or if he feels like he's already established that let's.

Yeah, and I felt like it's going to be interesting moving forward, how much he commits to that character to try to stay relevant, or if he feels like he's already established that let's.

Move on to the Comaine event. There's plenty to talk about, of course, but Jay being Jay, I have to move along. In the co main event, Alexander Volkanov's You're new UFC Featherweight Champion of the World defeating Max Holloway without a ton of controversy. Brian Campbell, Now, it's so funny. I went back and I checked on The Morning Combat last week and we did this conversation where we said who was the livest dog on there? Brian Campbell, do you recall who I said was the livest dog of.

Move on to the Comaine event. There's plenty to talk about, of course, but Jay being Jay, I have to move along. In the co main event, Alexander Volkanov's You're new UFC Featherweight Champion of the World defeating Max Holloway without a ton of controversy. Brian Campbell, Now, it's so funny. I went back and I checked on The Morning Combat last week and we did this conversation where we said who was the livest dog on there? Brian Campbell, do you recall who I said was the livest dog of.

The three title I said, GDR, who was pretty damn levers.

The three title I said, GDR, who was pretty damn levers.

You got very close. You got very close as well. But in the end, which we'll talk about just a second, but of course Volkanofsky is a new champion. There's a big question about how surprised we be by this, and I don't think we should be. Now. I'll also do a Miya Kolpa. I thought in the end Max kind of might find a way to get it done, and he did make some adjustments.

You got very close. You got very close as well. But in the end, which we'll talk about just a second, but of course Volkanofsky is a new champion. There's a big question about how surprised we be by this, and I don't think we should be. Now. I'll also do a Miya Kolpa. I thought in the end Max kind of might find a way to get it done, and he did make some adjustments.

He made some championship dish on the fourth and fifth round.

He made some championship dish on the fourth and fifth round.

That's what today's Dissected episode is about.

That's what today's Dissected episode is about.

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With that in mind, I don't think we should be surprised for two reasons. One, if you watch the Mendesk fight, while Volkonowsky did get tagged, he showed all kinds of incredible metal coming back and some of the same setups and camouflage and misdirection he'd been working on. And then if you watch that Aldo fight, there was no fanfare for that because I think it was the co main event. It was in Brazil. Josee Aldo never got dropped Josee Al don't never got his back taken in. Jose Aldo wasn't really bleeding. He just got systematically dissected. He just got beaten. Then you look at this fight and it was many of the same tricks he brought from Aldo. But here's what I noticed. These guys at City Kickboxing are doing something special. And one of the many things that they're doing among all the fainting we've talked about ad nauseum is dude, they audit you. Oh hell yeah, they audit you. They look at your game in grand detail. And someone like Max Holloway's got a lot of tape, right, look all the records for longest fight, this and many many strikes that. Well, that means there's a lot of tape to look at. Dude. They look at all of it and they pick it apart, piece by piece, and they developed a ridiculously good game plan for it. That guy Alexander Volkonowski, he's gonna fight Max Holloway again. But my prediction is until he does Brian Campbell, he ain't losing.

With that in mind, I don't think we should be surprised for two reasons. One, if you watch the Mendesk fight, while Volkonowsky did get tagged, he showed all kinds of incredible metal coming back and some of the same setups and camouflage and misdirection he'd been working on. And then if you watch that Aldo fight, there was no fanfare for that because I think it was the co main event. It was in Brazil. Josee Aldo never got dropped Josee Al don't never got his back taken in. Jose Aldo wasn't really bleeding. He just got systematically dissected. He just got beaten. Then you look at this fight and it was many of the same tricks he brought from Aldo. But here's what I noticed. These guys at City Kickboxing are doing something special. And one of the many things that they're doing among all the fainting we've talked about ad nauseum is dude, they audit you. Oh hell yeah, they audit you. They look at your game in grand detail. And someone like Max Holloway's got a lot of tape, right, look all the records for longest fight, this and many many strikes that. Well, that means there's a lot of tape to look at. Dude. They look at all of it and they pick it apart, piece by piece, and they developed a ridiculously good game plan for it. That guy Alexander Volkonowski, he's gonna fight Max Holloway again. But my prediction is until he does Brian Campbell, he ain't losing.

No.

No.

I gotta take it honest with you. Look, you know, sometimes what do you usually do?

I gotta take it honest with you. Look, you know, sometimes what do you usually do?

I haven't rolled on the mats for years. I didn't fight the Marine Corps like you, so I can be a filthy casual in terms of hearing Jimmy and seeing it. I didn't necessarily see how great Alexander Volkanowski was each step, and do you know what illuminated me? Not necessarily watching your ass at the screen.

I haven't rolled on the mats for years. I didn't fight the Marine Corps like you, so I can be a filthy casual in terms of hearing Jimmy and seeing it. I didn't necessarily see how great Alexander Volkanowski was each step, and do you know what illuminated me? Not necessarily watching your ass at the screen.

Although it was good, glad to know. I have no help.

Although it was good, glad to know. I have no help.

Media day this week in Vegas. All Right, I get the one I won with Volkanowski.

Media day this week in Vegas. All Right, I get the one I won with Volkanowski.

Look, I've been duped before by many a woman, right, never trust a big button a smile. I've also been duped by many a fighter who's basically like, I got it, I love a bit, I got it, I'm gonna win. I've been duped by that before. Because of the confidence. I heard a different kind of confidence come out of Alexander Volkowski in the one on one, which he basically was like, Look, no disrespect to my opponents, but a lot of my opponents are casuals when it comes to the full understanding of what's going on inside the cage. He goes, not everybody is liked myself in Max. I like that he gave respect to Max. He went on to break down I'm gonna win this fight because I'm smarter, because my IQ is bigger, because I broke down every single part of Max in the build up, and I'm gonna take his strengths and use it against him, just like I did to jose Al though, and I started to have a conversation with us, I go, then, although fight, you made it look so easy that we were questioning whether although just didn't try it down the stretch, he was just not pulling the trigger. And he went on to give me a breakdown of how he was able to take all those technique and use it against him. And I came out of the interview like texting people, not running up to the betting window, although I thought about it, but texting people going.

Look, I've been duped before by many a woman, right, never trust a big button a smile. I've also been duped by many a fighter who's basically like, I got it, I love a bit, I got it, I'm gonna win. I've been duped by that before. Because of the confidence. I heard a different kind of confidence come out of Alexander Volkowski in the one on one, which he basically was like, Look, no disrespect to my opponents, but a lot of my opponents are casuals when it comes to the full understanding of what's going on inside the cage. He goes, not everybody is liked myself in Max. I like that he gave respect to Max. He went on to break down I'm gonna win this fight because I'm smarter, because my IQ is bigger, because I broke down every single part of Max in the build up, and I'm gonna take his strengths and use it against him, just like I did to jose Al though, and I started to have a conversation with us, I go, then, although fight, you made it look so easy that we were questioning whether although just didn't try it down the stretch, he was just not pulling the trigger. And he went on to give me a breakdown of how he was able to take all those technique and use it against him. And I came out of the interview like texting people, not running up to the betting window, although I thought about it, but texting people going.

Like, this guy's even live.

Like, this guy's even live.

Then we realize and we're already sort of saying, look, this guy's got a good chance here. I believed in his confidence so much, but I wanted to see it play out. And what I saw on Saturday night was him doing exactly what he told me he was going to do. And it's mind blowing stuff for somebody who's maybe not as on the inside as you are in terms of breaking it down to be able to visually see what he was able to do taking away Max's jab the whole time. Think about it. Max Holloway is a guy who's such a technical brawler, right, he uses technique in timing and distance and all that stuff, but he does it to get close.

Then we realize and we're already sort of saying, look, this guy's got a good chance here. I believed in his confidence so much, but I wanted to see it play out. And what I saw on Saturday night was him doing exactly what he told me he was going to do. And it's mind blowing stuff for somebody who's maybe not as on the inside as you are in terms of breaking it down to be able to visually see what he was able to do taking away Max's jab the whole time. Think about it. Max Holloway is a guy who's such a technical brawler, right, he uses technique in timing and distance and all that stuff, but he does it to get close.

To you and take care of you.

To you and take care of you.

And so many people try to beat him at his greatest strength, right because they can't take him down. So they're like, I got to out pace him, or I got to outslug him, and it doesn't happen. This is a guy who did it the inverted way, who came from behind the computer and started pulling wires. I mean, this was like that one shot that would take the damn death Star down, and he was able to deliver that over five rounds in brilliant fashion, making adjustments. Everything that you said and dissected that people should talk about, the defensive responsibility, all that stuff. I came away going Luke is right when Luke says the people down there in Australia, the people down there in New Zealand are doing something different.

And so many people try to beat him at his greatest strength, right because they can't take him down. So they're like, I got to out pace him, or I got to outslug him, and it doesn't happen. This is a guy who did it the inverted way, who came from behind the computer and started pulling wires. I mean, this was like that one shot that would take the damn death Star down, and he was able to deliver that over five rounds in brilliant fashion, making adjustments. Everything that you said and dissected that people should talk about, the defensive responsibility, all that stuff. I came away going Luke is right when Luke says the people down there in Australia, the people down there in New Zealand are doing something different.

It's next level.

It's next level.

It's here's the other part about it too. It's like, do you remember what and again, I'm not picking on you because I think what you had said was representative. At the time, a lot of people felt that way, including former to Go as You champion Chris Widman. When out of sign you beat Silva, they were like, well, was that all that impressive? And I'm like, if what you're looking at is for big uppercuts that send their head, you know, and gone versus overim style, then yes, it is a bit of a letdown. But when you really begin to look at what they're doing, it's almost like they law you into a false sense of security because it looks to a degree maybe boring, kind of weird motions. You don't quite understand what the level of what the what the purpose is. But then when you begin to realize what the purpose is, it is to have a striking game completely encased in surprise, misdirection and confusion. That might make it a little bit harder to land that big punch that puts somebody out, but it makes it very difficult for an opponent to defeat. And that's exactly what you got.

It's here's the other part about it too. It's like, do you remember what and again, I'm not picking on you because I think what you had said was representative. At the time, a lot of people felt that way, including former to Go as You champion Chris Widman. When out of sign you beat Silva, they were like, well, was that all that impressive? And I'm like, if what you're looking at is for big uppercuts that send their head, you know, and gone versus overim style, then yes, it is a bit of a letdown. But when you really begin to look at what they're doing, it's almost like they law you into a false sense of security because it looks to a degree maybe boring, kind of weird motions. You don't quite understand what the level of what the what the purpose is. But then when you begin to realize what the purpose is, it is to have a striking game completely encased in surprise, misdirection and confusion. That might make it a little bit harder to land that big punch that puts somebody out, but it makes it very difficult for an opponent to defeat. And that's exactly what you got.

And ownership of distance was was humbling to watch in the front row up close and see that how every time Max went about to set up and do what he does best.

And ownership of distance was was humbling to watch in the front row up close and see that how every time Max went about to set up and do what he does best.

Volcanovsis is flipping the script right.

Volcanovsis is flipping the script right.

So when when Max made those adjustments a little bit later, crowding him a little bit, going to the body was the big, big James chance was a big softball chance, even though the commentators kind of downplayed a little bit that that was big. So to me, it's like, I don't think Max is that far away from being able to one get back there and to giving Volkanovsky a run for his money. To the point you raised about this, it's like, this is what I love about MMA. It's not merely that you have ascendant fighters like Whittaker and Hooker and out of Sonya and Volkanovsky and all these guys from the Oceania region. It's that in the case of City Kickboxing, dude, they do you remember what ron Rousey did for the women's game where she came in there and she was just thrashing.

So when when Max made those adjustments a little bit later, crowding him a little bit, going to the body was the big, big James chance was a big softball chance, even though the commentators kind of downplayed a little bit that that was big. So to me, it's like, I don't think Max is that far away from being able to one get back there and to giving Volkanovsky a run for his money. To the point you raised about this, it's like, this is what I love about MMA. It's not merely that you have ascendant fighters like Whittaker and Hooker and out of Sonya and Volkanovsky and all these guys from the Oceania region. It's that in the case of City Kickboxing, dude, they do you remember what ron Rousey did for the women's game where she came in there and she was just thrashing.

We're Ronda Rousey's final asset, right she why do.

We're Ronda Rousey's final asset, right she why do.

You gotta be so weird? She was showing that there's a level of physicality that's missing. She showed not that everyone got good at judo, but she just raised everyone's level of understanding against certain defensive concepts, how to train properly, what it means to be an athlete, and there were other women who contributed as well. Dude, I really believe eventually the rest of the game is going to catch up to what these guys are doing at City Kickboxing. But right now, what they're doing is pacing everybody. And two, they're going to show the rest of the world that you have things you need to improve on, including but not limited to, their world of feints. And once everyone does MMA striking is going to get even better. She's crazy.

You gotta be so weird? She was showing that there's a level of physicality that's missing. She showed not that everyone got good at judo, but she just raised everyone's level of understanding against certain defensive concepts, how to train properly, what it means to be an athlete, and there were other women who contributed as well. Dude, I really believe eventually the rest of the game is going to catch up to what these guys are doing at City Kickboxing. But right now, what they're doing is pacing everybody. And two, they're going to show the rest of the world that you have things you need to improve on, including but not limited to, their world of feints. And once everyone does MMA striking is going to get even better. She's crazy.

From the most basic way of looking at that fight. You never would have guess if someone's going to walk in there knock Max all the way out. You never would have guess if someone's going to go in there and take them down and grind him out. And you never would have guess that someone's going to out cardio him and out volume him. Yet again, Wolkonowski flipped the flip the paradigm upside and flipped upside down and just kind of did it from a very little reach round action there.

From the most basic way of looking at that fight. You never would have guess if someone's going to walk in there knock Max all the way out. You never would have guess if someone's going to go in there and take them down and grind him out. And you never would have guess that someone's going to out cardio him and out volume him. Yet again, Wolkonowski flipped the flip the paradigm upside and flipped upside down and just kind of did it from a very little reach round action there.

It was us very You're.

It was us very You're.

Getting weirder with every minute of the show passed. Can you keep the slapstick in the check until we get to the slapstick hour. Last thing about this, who's the toughest challenge for him? Not named Max Holloway. I've been racking my brain about this. I actually don't. I can't.

Getting weirder with every minute of the show passed. Can you keep the slapstick in the check until we get to the slapstick hour. Last thing about this, who's the toughest challenge for him? Not named Max Holloway. I've been racking my brain about this. I actually don't. I can't.

Let's talk about that top five of feather the wright.

Let's talk about that top five of feather the wright.

Who are you?

Who are you?

Who are we looking at?

Who are we looking at?

Right? So there's Holloway up there? Chance on? Let me I could pull up the list here if you want. But is there any name that kind of stands up?

Right? So there's Holloway up there? Chance on? Let me I could pull up the list here if you want. But is there any name that kind of stands up?

I mean, you got Korean zombie going in there again.

I mean, you got Korean zombie going in there again.

I don't think he.

I don't think he.

Would be very interesting.

Would be very interesting.

Ortega against Volkanowski, Oh, Ortaga I think would have his day.

Ortega against Volkanowski, Oh, Ortaga I think would have his day.

So one is what are you saying, Volkanowski? Would you up or takeo?

So one is what are you saying, Volkanowski? Would you up or takeo?

Yeah? Not on the ground, But I don't think he'll ever go to the ground, so it doesn't matter. Three is Aldo already beat him. Four is a beat, and then five is Edgar beat beats an interesting one.

Yeah? Not on the ground, But I don't think he'll ever go to the ground, so it doesn't matter. Three is Aldo already beat him. Four is a beat, and then five is Edgar beat beats an interesting one.

Because of the lane.

Because of the lane.

He'll just be cater but he was kind of fading the third round.

He'll just be cater but he was kind of fading the third round.

And the beat is on north of on traditional on his he's tricky.

And the beat is on north of on traditional on his he's tricky.

Two. The thing is that the cardio might pay difference there.

Two. The thing is that the cardio might pay difference there.

Ortega, though his will is mighty, all right.

Ortega, though his will is mighty, all right.

And by the way, there are.

And by the way, there are.

People, including the guy who sits in this who will tell you that Ortego was coming on against Max when his face fell apart.

People, including the guy who sits in this who will tell you that Ortego was coming on against Max when his face fell apart.

All right. He sounds like a very convincing argument. All right, Then we moved to your favorite fight of the car Jermaine Durande. Me Ooh buddy, she made things a little bit interesting for Amanda Unas. Now in the end, the greatest women's fighter of all time keeps her UFC bandsaweight title. But it got dicey there, Brian Campbell, Let's think about this way first. What does a win like this do for Amanda Nunez In terms of if anything, maybe the answer is nothing. But in terms of solidifying her goat status.

All right. He sounds like a very convincing argument. All right, Then we moved to your favorite fight of the car Jermaine Durande. Me Ooh buddy, she made things a little bit interesting for Amanda Unas. Now in the end, the greatest women's fighter of all time keeps her UFC bandsaweight title. But it got dicey there, Brian Campbell, Let's think about this way first. What does a win like this do for Amanda Nunez In terms of if anything, maybe the answer is nothing. But in terms of solidifying her goat status.

It's a push in that regard.

It's a push in that regard.

Although I think there's many many elite things you could pull out of her. I mean, her ability to take down GDR at will and just grind her to the ground and pick her up and slammer at any point where there was danger. It's certainly elite and it's another part of her completely well rounded game.

Although I think there's many many elite things you could pull out of her. I mean, her ability to take down GDR at will and just grind her to the ground and pick her up and slammer at any point where there was danger. It's certainly elite and it's another part of her completely well rounded game.

Right.

Right.

She brought in the gas tank, She brought in the full package.

She brought in the gas tank, She brought in the full package.

Right from her early days.

Right from her early days.

But if you're gonna be real fine tooth combed and pick a little bit of negatives for the reasons why she wrestled so much, and that's in the third, fourth, and fifth rounds.

But if you're gonna be real fine tooth combed and pick a little bit of negatives for the reasons why she wrestled so much, and that's in the third, fourth, and fifth rounds.

I think there's room to do that.

I think there's room to do that.

Now. It's fighters can't win, right would you behold on? Would you make the same criticism of Kamorrow if he wrestled Joorge.

Now. It's fighters can't win, right would you behold on? Would you make the same criticism of Kamorrow if he wrestled Joorge.

Well, that's the thing.

Well, that's the thing.

Fighters can't win because sometimes the criticize, you know, Floyd Mayweather used to get that man.

Fighters can't win because sometimes the criticize, you know, Floyd Mayweather used to get that man.

He's not going in there and trying to knock guys out.

He's not going in there and trying to knock guys out.

Well, he's efficient and sticking to what he does best, and he's picking you.

Well, he's efficient and sticking to what he does best, and he's picking you.

Part in a lot of ways.

Part in a lot of ways.

That's what Nuna's figured out in this fight, and she did it rounds three, four, and five and got the victory and in a couple of minutes. We can also criticize Terrence Crawford for going there and brawling a somewhat limited guy and making that fight more excited than it had to be. So you can never win.

That's what Nuna's figured out in this fight, and she did it rounds three, four, and five and got the victory and in a couple of minutes. We can also criticize Terrence Crawford for going there and brawling a somewhat limited guy and making that fight more excited than it had to be. So you can never win.

But within the.

But within the.

Grounds here, GDR put on a championship level performance from the standpoint of defense, toughness and trying to find past to victory.

Grounds here, GDR put on a championship level performance from the standpoint of defense, toughness and trying to find past to victory.

That were tiny.

That were tiny.

Openings that she tried to exploit and came pretty close on three or four occasions. So it's one of those things where do you say, pretty smart of Amanda Nunas not take any chances the rest of the way got rocked couple times. Let's just get out here with a win. Or do you say GDR made her do that and that's not what goats do.

Openings that she tried to exploit and came pretty close on three or four occasions. So it's one of those things where do you say, pretty smart of Amanda Nunas not take any chances the rest of the way got rocked couple times. Let's just get out here with a win. Or do you say GDR made her do that and that's not what goats do.

I'm not willing to say that.

I'm not willing to say that.

No. I think goats win often by dominant display. Sometimes they win by hook or by crook. Even Fador in his prime getting rocked by Kazuyuki Fujita, who is not even on the level of a GDR in terms of a contender. He got rocked. But what even I remember that to this day because it stood out to me at the time when I watched the fight. Rampage was doing commentary with Quadros and Rootin at the time, and Fador gets rocked, comes back and then hits that bodykick with that right hook or maybe even a left hook, and then he, you know, essentially stops Fujiita first of all, rampageman in front of his teeth. But secondly, what he said was he goes that's what champions do. That is what champions do. Sometimes champions get pushed, and in this game, nobody is invincible. What I would say is to me, in terms of adding to her goat status, it's not like you can add durandom Me and say, oh my god, derandom Me was so active. She was beating all the contenders. She was mussy. You could say she's very talented, but she had only fought once. This is the first time since twenty thirteen, the first time she lost to Amandon Nunis, where she had fought twice in this calendar year. What you can say, though, is she got pushed and she answered for it. She didn't gas, she didn't make bad decisions, she didn't panic. She listened to her corner and she used her well rounded abilities, and.

No. I think goats win often by dominant display. Sometimes they win by hook or by crook. Even Fador in his prime getting rocked by Kazuyuki Fujita, who is not even on the level of a GDR in terms of a contender. He got rocked. But what even I remember that to this day because it stood out to me at the time when I watched the fight. Rampage was doing commentary with Quadros and Rootin at the time, and Fador gets rocked, comes back and then hits that bodykick with that right hook or maybe even a left hook, and then he, you know, essentially stops Fujiita first of all, rampageman in front of his teeth. But secondly, what he said was he goes that's what champions do. That is what champions do. Sometimes champions get pushed, and in this game, nobody is invincible. What I would say is to me, in terms of adding to her goat status, it's not like you can add durandom Me and say, oh my god, derandom Me was so active. She was beating all the contenders. She was mussy. You could say she's very talented, but she had only fought once. This is the first time since twenty thirteen, the first time she lost to Amandon Nunis, where she had fought twice in this calendar year. What you can say, though, is she got pushed and she answered for it. She didn't gas, she didn't make bad decisions, she didn't panic. She listened to her corner and she used her well rounded abilities, and.

She showed a chin Amanda had to show.

She showed a chin Amanda had to show.

She should Dudemanda Jermanda Randa Me whipped Aspin Lad around with some of the same punches that Amanda Noon is just.

She should Dudemanda Jermanda Randa Me whipped Aspin Lad around with some of the same punches that Amanda Noon is just.

I mean, there were four moments, right.

I mean, there were four moments, right.

It was the double knee of the face and the kick to the head that was one moment. It was certainly that stiff ass up kick where you're like is Amanda out what just happened right there?

It was the double knee of the face and the kick to the head that was one moment. It was certainly that stiff ass up kick where you're like is Amanda out what just happened right there?

And then there was the triangle on the bottom.

And then there was the triangle on the bottom.

Was there another moment? I mean there was some like there was legitimate moments where you're like, this fight's going away. There's an upset brewing here. Yeah, and Amanda's ability to stomp that out was great. That's why she's the best. But at the same time, it's fair to just have the conversation. She fought that slow, predictable and boring and got those booze in the final three rounds because.

Was there another moment? I mean there was some like there was legitimate moments where you're like, this fight's going away. There's an upset brewing here. Yeah, and Amanda's ability to stomp that out was great. That's why she's the best. But at the same time, it's fair to just have the conversation. She fought that slow, predictable and boring and got those booze in the final three rounds because.

Of GDR danger and the other part is GDR's takedown de fence. I mean what she would do is she would fire the under hooks when she would get the stop, and then that would plant her legs, which just gave Nonas all space she needed to get the trip. So like nwda's was just setting her up for it and got it very easily. And you could say, well, it's fairly I'm not recalling a rudimentary wrestling, but it's not advanced wrestling. Let's call it that. Maybe someone with more advanced wrestling could do something about it. But then you look down it's like, okay, well who is that she beat me? She take she beat Ronda Rousey, she beat Holly Holm, she beat Chef Chanko twice. Now this Kats and no the Kats and Dona once she could not. But you know, Ketzgann's even the UFC anymore, So that's not going to happen. There's a lot of different ways that you could say, oh, this is a weakness, and it is. It's an identifiable weakness. But every time someone has a chance to take advantage of it right now in her prime, they just can't.

Of GDR danger and the other part is GDR's takedown de fence. I mean what she would do is she would fire the under hooks when she would get the stop, and then that would plant her legs, which just gave Nonas all space she needed to get the trip. So like nwda's was just setting her up for it and got it very easily. And you could say, well, it's fairly I'm not recalling a rudimentary wrestling, but it's not advanced wrestling. Let's call it that. Maybe someone with more advanced wrestling could do something about it. But then you look down it's like, okay, well who is that she beat me? She take she beat Ronda Rousey, she beat Holly Holm, she beat Chef Chanko twice. Now this Kats and no the Kats and Dona once she could not. But you know, Ketzgann's even the UFC anymore, So that's not going to happen. There's a lot of different ways that you could say, oh, this is a weakness, and it is. It's an identifiable weakness. But every time someone has a chance to take advantage of it right now in her prime, they just can't.

I mean, she's great, She's she's amazingly great, even with the slightest level of criticism for the way that she took the easier road. I mean, she was absolutely dominant in that first round and knocking GDR down and she had her best success on the ground in that. But derandom Man is a true iron lady, as the nickname says. Her ability to stop herself from getting close to being stopped and be able to responsibly maintain and actually score from the bottom.