Reveale. Donks. It is Monday, August twelfth, twenty nineteen, and this is Morning Combat. My name is Thomas. I am the host of this program alongside my lovely Vana Whitesque co host Brian.

Reveale. Donks. It is Monday, August twelfth, twenty nineteen, and this is Morning Combat. My name is Thomas. I am the host of this program alongside my lovely Vana Whitesque co host Brian.

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They're going to be on the Monsters of Murder tour with the Statutory boys and.

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All right.

All right.

We got a lot to get to On the weekend. There was let's see ufc Uruguay Uruguay, however you want to pronounce it. You will see two forty one's coming out.

We got a lot to get to On the weekend. There was let's see ufc Uruguay Uruguay, however you want to pronounce it. You will see two forty one's coming out.

I see you throughout that, however you want to pronounce it.

I see you throughout that, however you want to pronounce it.

We had a big debate on our radio show about it. You can go whatever every direction you want to go. Plus, we've got some boxing stuff, some odds and ends. Not a moment to waste, so let's get right into it. So first up, ufc Uruguay Uruguay, however you want to say it. There was a main event. I'm told there was a main event. Brian Valatina Chevchenko technically defended her title against Liz Karmusch. She wins. There was really not much controversy in tombs of who was the winner when it was over. But oh my god, Brian, this was let's just call it what. It was. Terrible, so terrible. In fact, it's up there in my judgment with worst UFC title fight of all time. Now I'm not declaring it number one for a couple of reasons. There are some fights that were objectively just also either as bad, if not worse. Militant versus Pidanius was bad.

We had a big debate on our radio show about it. You can go whatever every direction you want to go. Plus, we've got some boxing stuff, some odds and ends. Not a moment to waste, so let's get right into it. So first up, ufc Uruguay Uruguay, however you want to say it. There was a main event. I'm told there was a main event. Brian Valatina Chevchenko technically defended her title against Liz Karmusch. She wins. There was really not much controversy in tombs of who was the winner when it was over. But oh my god, Brian, this was let's just call it what. It was. Terrible, so terrible. In fact, it's up there in my judgment with worst UFC title fight of all time. Now I'm not declaring it number one for a couple of reasons. There are some fights that were objectively just also either as bad, if not worse. Militant versus Pidanius was bad.

That's bad.

That's bad.

Let's see, you could do the third fight between Rolovski and Silvia. That one just didn't work out. So there's a bunch of other ones you could pick. And I'll say this in the defense of this fight. They didn't put it at the top of a pay per view where you had to really pay attention. They put it in the bottom of South America. They put it behind a pay wall. They said, if you want to watch, watch, if you don't, don't, So in that sense, you don't feel like you got scammed pay per view dollars. On the other hand, just objectively speaking, you thought it was an okay fight. We thought it was an okay fight because you're like, well, kr Moush had fought her before and there's a bit of a rematch story, and yeah, maybe they're just trying to make cards. Was on the top of it. But okay, Carmush is talented and so was Chevchenko. But in the end, I don't understand Krmush's game plan. Granted I'm not a profiler, so I'm saying I don't I literally don't understand. But when I'm seeing pro muy Thai coaches on Twitter also saying that they don't understand, I can't be alone and thinking what, like, I get that she defensively did enough to not put herself in super harm's way. She never got out of first gear offensively. What was that?

Let's see, you could do the third fight between Rolovski and Silvia. That one just didn't work out. So there's a bunch of other ones you could pick. And I'll say this in the defense of this fight. They didn't put it at the top of a pay per view where you had to really pay attention. They put it in the bottom of South America. They put it behind a pay wall. They said, if you want to watch, watch, if you don't, don't, So in that sense, you don't feel like you got scammed pay per view dollars. On the other hand, just objectively speaking, you thought it was an okay fight. We thought it was an okay fight because you're like, well, kr Moush had fought her before and there's a bit of a rematch story, and yeah, maybe they're just trying to make cards. Was on the top of it. But okay, Carmush is talented and so was Chevchenko. But in the end, I don't understand Krmush's game plan. Granted I'm not a profiler, so I'm saying I don't I literally don't understand. But when I'm seeing pro muy Thai coaches on Twitter also saying that they don't understand, I can't be alone and thinking what, like, I get that she defensively did enough to not put herself in super harm's way. She never got out of first gear offensively. What was that?

It comes down to intention to me, Like this weekend, I went to the barbershop. I didn't intentionally come out. I hope to come out of there looking like Timothy McVeigh. I thought the last three or four haircuts I got would speak to what I want. But I didn't intentionally say don't give me the military cut.

It comes down to intention to me, Like this weekend, I went to the barbershop. I didn't intentionally come out. I hope to come out of there looking like Timothy McVeigh. I thought the last three or four haircuts I got would speak to what I want. But I didn't intentionally say don't give me the military cut.

I come out looking like I'm tight.

I come out looking like I'm tight.

They're like, what are your next? Marina? I'm like, no, there's no such thing, right. Here's the point, though, there was no intention from Carmush to try to win that fight, to try to win the title, so her afterwards to say things like I'm here for a trilogy. I think I can come back a third time and take this piight, Like, what are you talking about it? So if you want to go who do you put the blame on? Here's the thing. Valancy and Chefchenko is best as a counter striker. When you get somebody like Jessica I who's willing to go for broke and run into traffic, you're gonna get spectacular moments like that. I don't fully put the blame on her because after the first couple of rounds where she really felt out Carmush, she did try to win the fight. I'm talking about Chefchenko. She walked her forward with combinations, she dropped her with a spinning back fish, she slapped her to the ground, She attempted some things at some point though they both sort of entered into what Teddy Atlas likes to call that silent contract, which is you sort of draw a line here, I draw a line here. If neither of us go over it. You won't knock me out, and I won't give you a reason to knock me out, and we'll go to the finish. I think Chefchenko tried a little bit harder. But here's the deal. She hadn't want to protect in.

They're like, what are your next? Marina? I'm like, no, there's no such thing, right. Here's the point, though, there was no intention from Carmush to try to win that fight, to try to win the title, so her afterwards to say things like I'm here for a trilogy. I think I can come back a third time and take this piight, Like, what are you talking about it? So if you want to go who do you put the blame on? Here's the thing. Valancy and Chefchenko is best as a counter striker. When you get somebody like Jessica I who's willing to go for broke and run into traffic, you're gonna get spectacular moments like that. I don't fully put the blame on her because after the first couple of rounds where she really felt out Carmush, she did try to win the fight. I'm talking about Chefchenko. She walked her forward with combinations, she dropped her with a spinning back fish, she slapped her to the ground, She attempted some things at some point though they both sort of entered into what Teddy Atlas likes to call that silent contract, which is you sort of draw a line here, I draw a line here. If neither of us go over it. You won't knock me out, and I won't give you a reason to knock me out, and we'll go to the finish. I think Chefchenko tried a little bit harder. But here's the deal. She hadn't want to protect in.

The fight, right, So he's protecting a title. She's protecting obviously her status. And I'll put a little bit, just a little bit of the blame on the matchmakers, not a lot, because they're doing their job. But if you have a counter striker versus someone who I think more recently has been to a lot of decisions and doesn't necessarily push the fight super hard, you had to expect. Not saying you had to know this was coming, you had to at least expect it as a possibility. So again, I'm not super blaming them. The one thing I would say, though, was like, Okay, karmoochs lost, and then was like, I'd be up for a trilogy. Well, I don't think the soul on Earth is other than her. Here's the other part about it. Though, Schifchenko did what she had to do to retain her title. Fine, she didn't take any hardly damage. Fine, all that stuff is what you're supposed to be doing in the fight game. However, if you wanted to create energy and interest around a third fight with the man in Nunez, this was not the way to do. She didn't get any Not only did she not get closer to a third fight with Nunez, she got a lot further away. And you would have thought, with the absence of Cyborg, this is your chance, go in there, put the stamp on her. She didn't.

The fight, right, So he's protecting a title. She's protecting obviously her status. And I'll put a little bit, just a little bit of the blame on the matchmakers, not a lot, because they're doing their job. But if you have a counter striker versus someone who I think more recently has been to a lot of decisions and doesn't necessarily push the fight super hard, you had to expect. Not saying you had to know this was coming, you had to at least expect it as a possibility. So again, I'm not super blaming them. The one thing I would say, though, was like, Okay, karmoochs lost, and then was like, I'd be up for a trilogy. Well, I don't think the soul on Earth is other than her. Here's the other part about it. Though, Schifchenko did what she had to do to retain her title. Fine, she didn't take any hardly damage. Fine, all that stuff is what you're supposed to be doing in the fight game. However, if you wanted to create energy and interest around a third fight with the man in Nunez, this was not the way to do. She didn't get any Not only did she not get closer to a third fight with Nunez, she got a lot further away. And you would have thought, with the absence of Cyborg, this is your chance, go in there, put the stamp on her. She didn't.

They get to the title level and they realize that this is the prize I'm protecting. If I protect this title, I'm getting bigger pay days every time out, no matter who I fight. So obviously she still wants that noun Yaz fight, but she didn't expect to come back this soon. UFC gave her that opportunity with this fight headline, this card. She took it.

They get to the title level and they realize that this is the prize I'm protecting. If I protect this title, I'm getting bigger pay days every time out, no matter who I fight. So obviously she still wants that noun Yaz fight, but she didn't expect to come back this soon. UFC gave her that opportunity with this fight headline, this card. She took it.

In the end.

In the end.

Does she deserve a little bit of blank sure, for sure, But Carlous deserves the majority of it. And the real question is what you started out with. How bad is this fight? Actually? Historically I think it's worse than let's say Tyron Woody Stephen Thompson too, which actually had a little bit of like chess magic in there. If you're a total nerd, if you're on your end of the professor salt and pepper scale. I thought it was maybe even better though than like Anderson Silva Talis latest Anderson Silva Demian Mile.

Does she deserve a little bit of blank sure, for sure, But Carlous deserves the majority of it. And the real question is what you started out with. How bad is this fight? Actually? Historically I think it's worse than let's say Tyron Woody Stephen Thompson too, which actually had a little bit of like chess magic in there. If you're a total nerd, if you're on your end of the professor salt and pepper scale. I thought it was maybe even better though than like Anderson Silva Talis latest Anderson Silva Demian Mile.

Let's not forget how awful those were. Bad what is and Silva Patrick Ota? But that ended kind of early with the tragic in we're.

Let's not forget how awful those were. Bad what is and Silva Patrick Ota? But that ended kind of early with the tragic in we're.

Gonna talk about bad title fights, it's nowhere remotely close to the worst title fight in UFC history, which is also the first title fight in UFC history, and some people don't realize was a title fight UFC five, the rematch Hoys Gracie Ken Shamrock for the first UFC Super Fight Championship. And I bring that up not to sound hip and hipster and cool. I bring it up because I'm still hurting from that fight. Thirty six minutes and six second draw, no action whatsoever. I had a big pay per view party at my house. I had the illegal black Box, had people over that hadn't seen this before. Sold them on the no rules, sold them on h what's the dude's name of punch Josun and the balls about age k Ha Keith Hackney, sold them on all that great stuff, and we got you guys in underwear and one in a geek kind of laying around and rolling for thirty six minutes. That's the worst title fight. That's the want womp in UFC history.

Gonna talk about bad title fights, it's nowhere remotely close to the worst title fight in UFC history, which is also the first title fight in UFC history, and some people don't realize was a title fight UFC five, the rematch Hoys Gracie Ken Shamrock for the first UFC Super Fight Championship. And I bring that up not to sound hip and hipster and cool. I bring it up because I'm still hurting from that fight. Thirty six minutes and six second draw, no action whatsoever. I had a big pay per view party at my house. I had the illegal black Box, had people over that hadn't seen this before. Sold them on the no rules, sold them on h what's the dude's name of punch Josun and the balls about age k Ha Keith Hackney, sold them on all that great stuff, and we got you guys in underwear and one in a geek kind of laying around and rolling for thirty six minutes. That's the worst title fight. That's the want womp in UFC history.

So then this would easily be the worst women's title fight in UFC history. I don't know what would be worse. Nothing comes immediately to mine.

So then this would easily be the worst women's title fight in UFC history. I don't know what would be worse. Nothing comes immediately to mine.

I can think of it. If Pennington wasn't great, but at least you know there was a finish, There was attempt the look again. Chefchenko at least tried at a certain point were she said I'm gonna finish again.

I can think of it. If Pennington wasn't great, but at least you know there was a finish, There was attempt the look again. Chefchenko at least tried at a certain point were she said I'm gonna finish again.

A smidgen of blame on the matchmakers, but they're mostly doing their job. Some blame on chef Chenko, but again mostly doing her job. Car Mousch, I don't know what she was thinking. I really don't. This was and again, at thirty five years of age, you gotta go are you really going to I mean, this is your second weight class. Are you really going to go that way in pursuit of a title? Okay, that'll probably be your last one as far as the UFC is concerned. So that sucked. It was not great. Now there's another part of this though, the co Maine event. It actually was. We sent a Luke taking on Mike Perry, Mike Perry's face getting rearranged. Let me ask you first, have you ever seen a worst broken nose?

A smidgen of blame on the matchmakers, but they're mostly doing their job. Some blame on chef Chenko, but again mostly doing her job. Car Mousch, I don't know what she was thinking. I really don't. This was and again, at thirty five years of age, you gotta go are you really going to I mean, this is your second weight class. Are you really going to go that way in pursuit of a title? Okay, that'll probably be your last one as far as the UFC is concerned. So that sucked. It was not great. Now there's another part of this though, the co Maine event. It actually was. We sent a Luke taking on Mike Perry, Mike Perry's face getting rearranged. Let me ask you first, have you ever seen a worst broken nose?

No, that's the worst from a nose category. I think it's in the discussion of one of the worst things to go back and watch. The one thing that MMA has given us that even boxing really does. Boxing will give you a loose air once in a while, Yeah, but MMA gives us this ex rockmn right, the things they'll give MMA gives us this extra level of sort of it all fits under the category of MMA pornography. Right. We all have different fetishes. My fetishes to see old guys with names get in there and fights when maybe they shouldn't be licensed. That's my style. Some people get off on this, and I just don't get it. They get off on the groutesquely broken arm that's just hanging there, or the Anderson Silva check kick where his leg flies off in the other direction. This was insanely gross. This was up there with cyborg Santos in the in the hole on the forehead. I don't ever want to see this again. I don't need fifteen replays. I don't need gifts or gifts on Twitter. I don't need anything get me away from this. He was breathing in and breathing out in two different directions. It was pretty disgusting.

No, that's the worst from a nose category. I think it's in the discussion of one of the worst things to go back and watch. The one thing that MMA has given us that even boxing really does. Boxing will give you a loose air once in a while, Yeah, but MMA gives us this ex rockmn right, the things they'll give MMA gives us this extra level of sort of it all fits under the category of MMA pornography. Right. We all have different fetishes. My fetishes to see old guys with names get in there and fights when maybe they shouldn't be licensed. That's my style. Some people get off on this, and I just don't get it. They get off on the groutesquely broken arm that's just hanging there, or the Anderson Silva check kick where his leg flies off in the other direction. This was insanely gross. This was up there with cyborg Santos in the in the hole on the forehead. I don't ever want to see this again. I don't need fifteen replays. I don't need gifts or gifts on Twitter. I don't need anything get me away from this. He was breathing in and breathing out in two different directions. It was pretty disgusting.

It looked like he had been launched through the windshield of a car right where he had cuts all over his face from going through the glass and then landing and getting road rash in his face quite literally rearranged. I've seen a I think maybe I've seen a worst broken nose in person from a car crash, but this is the only thing in comparison. It wasn't just like off. It was shifted over and into his eye almost I think.

It looked like he had been launched through the windshield of a car right where he had cuts all over his face from going through the glass and then landing and getting road rash in his face quite literally rearranged. I've seen a I think maybe I've seen a worst broken nose in person from a car crash, but this is the only thing in comparison. It wasn't just like off. It was shifted over and into his eye almost I think.

The nose was gone. I don't even understand what I was seeing on his face.

The nose was gone. I don't even understand what I was seeing on his face.

It was broken and then pushed completely out of position. You know, he went surgery in Montevideo. Okay, great, I saw Mike Bond.

It was broken and then pushed completely out of position. You know, he went surgery in Montevideo. Okay, great, I saw Mike Bond.

I love Mike.

I love Mike.

But Mike was like he's expected to make a full recovery. Yeah, if he never fights again. Like in other words, I just had no surgery. But by the way, something significantly more minor of all the operations I've ever had, the recovery on that was the worst. That was awful. It was truly awful to think that, like a how much suffering he's gonna still go through and then be that the integrity and constitution of the nose is going to be held up forever. Does anyone actually believe that? I don't believe that. Now the bigger question is did he get robbed? I don't know how people can still keep doing this. Brian Campbell quickly, quickly, how'd you score it?

But Mike was like he's expected to make a full recovery. Yeah, if he never fights again. Like in other words, I just had no surgery. But by the way, something significantly more minor of all the operations I've ever had, the recovery on that was the worst. That was awful. It was truly awful to think that, like a how much suffering he's gonna still go through and then be that the integrity and constitution of the nose is going to be held up forever. Does anyone actually believe that? I don't believe that. Now the bigger question is did he get robbed? I don't know how people can still keep doing this. Brian Campbell quickly, quickly, how'd you score it?

In a hurry?

In a hurry?

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He ask me. These daunture remind I love how.

We made the people in your ear the biggest heel of this show about.

We made the people in your ear the biggest heel of this show about.

I know they're villains.

I know they're villains.

I was two to one, Luk. I was not a proud I did not have a problem with that at all.

I was two to one, Luk. I was not a proud I did not have a problem with that at all.

I'm gonna say this once. I'm gonna say it one more time, Okay, by ten more times, fifty more times, one hundred more times. A reasonably close fight that ends in a split decision is not a robber.

I'm gonna say this once. I'm gonna say it one more time, Okay, by ten more times, fifty more times, one hundred more times. A reasonably close fight that ends in a split decision is not a robber.

Especially when you have the potential to do a ten eight score like you had in that third round. You just felt the damage and the fact that he turned to carry basically with blood's flowing all over. I mean, it was absolutely disgusting. But how long brand though, is it for Mike Perry in the end for this absolute gangster guy to come out here and bleed everywhere, has his nose going eight different directions, have a chance to win this fight and then give you the social media pictures afterwards.

Especially when you have the potential to do a ten eight score like you had in that third round. You just felt the damage and the fact that he turned to carry basically with blood's flowing all over. I mean, it was absolutely disgusting. But how long brand though, is it for Mike Perry in the end for this absolute gangster guy to come out here and bleed everywhere, has his nose going eight different directions, have a chance to win this fight and then give you the social media pictures afterwards.

The middle fingers and folks are the most of the questions I've received were what's next for Mike Perry? Very few for Vicente Luk, which is I think in the end he'll be taken care of because he's done so well.

The middle fingers and folks are the most of the questions I've received were what's next for Mike Perry? Very few for Vicente Luk, which is I think in the end he'll be taken care of because he's done so well.

Such a moral victory for my notap How do you not tap in that in the final minute of that third round.

Such a moral victory for my notap How do you not tap in that in the final minute of that third round.

With his face literally rearranged, pouring blood like that, It is an incredible display of human grit. He did get the bonus, but that bonus needs to be quadrupled. Let me ask you this. We'll move on to the next topic. Forget about like all the circumstances. If I showed you a picture of that nose and I said, okay, independent of anything else, how much would it cost for me to do this to you? Right now? I've had unlimited budget, not unlimited, but pretty much.

With his face literally rearranged, pouring blood like that, It is an incredible display of human grit. He did get the bonus, but that bonus needs to be quadrupled. Let me ask you this. We'll move on to the next topic. Forget about like all the circumstances. If I showed you a picture of that nose and I said, okay, independent of anything else, how much would it cost for me to do this to you? Right now? I've had unlimited budget, not unlimited, but pretty much.

I don't get down like that. There's no price. People always like, you know, ten million dollars cash you will do like you wouldn't need a shit sandwich for a million? No, because I have integrity, like like I don't know.

I don't get down like that. There's no price. People always like, you know, ten million dollars cash you will do like you wouldn't need a shit sandwich for a million? No, because I have integrity, like like I don't know.

Okay, ten million dollars cash, you wouldn't do it.

Okay, ten million dollars cash, you wouldn't do it.

I wouldn't do it.

I wouldn't do it.

Okay, he'll do it for probably what one hundred and fifty thousand before taxes in the Indiana.

Okay, he'll do it for probably what one hundred and fifty thousand before taxes in the Indiana.

Might do it for a gas station hot dog. That's India.

Might do it for a gas station hot dog. That's India.

And that's what it will mount to these guys, I want to say it again, they are severely underpaid, severely underpaid. All right, last thing on UFC Uaguay, which prospect impressed you more? And the heavyweight to same finish by the way, head no arm triangles. I was gonna show him today why we had no time? Okay, So Cyril gain or Ghane, I've seen it with an accident without the accent however you want to pronounce it. He looked tremendous and gets the finish. And then on the other side you had Judelpho Vieira, a couple of early stumbles, but an absolutely text book Hudelpho Vira finish who impressed you more.

And that's what it will mount to these guys, I want to say it again, they are severely underpaid, severely underpaid. All right, last thing on UFC Uaguay, which prospect impressed you more? And the heavyweight to same finish by the way, head no arm triangles. I was gonna show him today why we had no time? Okay, So Cyril gain or Ghane, I've seen it with an accident without the accent however you want to pronounce it. He looked tremendous and gets the finish. And then on the other side you had Judelpho Vieira, a couple of early stumbles, but an absolutely text book Hudelpho Vira finish who impressed you more.

In the ure Cyril Ghane or gone Welcome to the Gun Show because it was more dominant and he had decent I mean, they both had pressure on themselves to come in there with the name and really prove themselves. I don't know, he just sort of was systematic in the way that he moved in the in the in the athleticism and the movements, in the way that he set up that finish. I was very impressed by that. I'm always impressed when somebody with big muscles can squeeze the life out of somebody with a head and arm choke like that. Yeah, And I think in the end he made more of a statement to me that he and you could speak to that being heavyweight, being a narrower pool. He made more of a state to me that he's ready for the big time, that he's ready for big things. Where Hudolfo showed you certainly he's got his body is wonderland. I mean, there's muscles behind muscles there, but it's kind of still a longer way to evolve from being a fantastic ground artist to being a complete mixed martial artist.

In the ure Cyril Ghane or gone Welcome to the Gun Show because it was more dominant and he had decent I mean, they both had pressure on themselves to come in there with the name and really prove themselves. I don't know, he just sort of was systematic in the way that he moved in the in the in the athleticism and the movements, in the way that he set up that finish. I was very impressed by that. I'm always impressed when somebody with big muscles can squeeze the life out of somebody with a head and arm choke like that. Yeah, And I think in the end he made more of a statement to me that he and you could speak to that being heavyweight, being a narrower pool. He made more of a state to me that he's ready for the big time, that he's ready for big things. Where Hudolfo showed you certainly he's got his body is wonderland. I mean, there's muscles behind muscles there, but it's kind of still a longer way to evolve from being a fantastic ground artist to being a complete mixed martial artist.

Yeah, he's got some work to do. I'm gonna say though, that the finish of Vieira was way more impressive. They had the exact same finish. If you look at here's a little quick one for cereals finished because I'm not sure I pronounced his last name. If you look at the head and no arm trigle when he locks it up, actually had it like this, Go back and pay attention his elbow, his forestad elbow is off the ground, which means he's trying to he man it. Go look at the effortless way in which he just finds himself via into the position, has the full triangle down hands, elbow, and then they head the whole. The whole triangles in place creates a much more stable structure. And by the way, submitted another black belt. Although I suppose you know in the case of silvers Well, he submitted a good.

Yeah, he's got some work to do. I'm gonna say though, that the finish of Vieira was way more impressive. They had the exact same finish. If you look at here's a little quick one for cereals finished because I'm not sure I pronounced his last name. If you look at the head and no arm trigle when he locks it up, actually had it like this, Go back and pay attention his elbow, his forestad elbow is off the ground, which means he's trying to he man it. Go look at the effortless way in which he just finds himself via into the position, has the full triangle down hands, elbow, and then they head the whole. The whole triangles in place creates a much more stable structure. And by the way, submitted another black belt. Although I suppose you know in the case of silvers Well, he submitted a good.

Sorry, I was distracted by the plumber's crack on Pessoa there. I don't think I've ever seen that. Yeah, see, he kind of looks like the love child of Gabbage and betch Kohea.

Sorry, I was distracted by the plumber's crack on Pessoa there. I don't think I've ever seen that. Yeah, see, he kind of looks like the love child of Gabbage and betch Kohea.

He looks good getting off the bus there, old Cyril does. In any event, either way, you can't go wrong. Some strong competitors, I thought from both sides quickly. There's something about t Sha Torrez.

He looks good getting off the bus there, old Cyril does. In any event, either way, you can't go wrong. Some strong competitors, I thought from both sides quickly. There's something about t Sha Torrez.

Uh. Yeah, four losses in a row. This is bad. This is now make that decision of should I still be going in this direction for her career. Something was interesting on the broadcast. They said her problem coming in, she'd figured it out. She's too respectful of her opponents. Did you see the quotes by who ded defeated. I forgot her name at this moment.

Uh. Yeah, four losses in a row. This is bad. This is now make that decision of should I still be going in this direction for her career. Something was interesting on the broadcast. They said her problem coming in, she'd figured it out. She's too respectful of her opponents. Did you see the quotes by who ded defeated. I forgot her name at this moment.

I didn't watch that fight. I don't know.

I didn't watch that fight. I don't know.

She looked great in doing so okay for us IMMA fans there, but the quotes afterwards was that Tisha respected me too much. I could have knocked her out if I wanted to. Interesting, that's a large statement that where t Sha Torre is is right now. As a professional four oh always seemed to have warning track power, always was a great athlete, was able to be in there and looked like an elite fighter, but didn't have that extra gear to get over the top. And as you age, that only gets worse, which is why somebody like Claudia Gadella has so focused on sort of trying to round out her game at this sort of a critical turning point age in her career for Tisha Rocky's back in her life. It's great news, probably for a personal life, right for a professional life, though I'm not telling her to finish, But where are you going to go from here?

She looked great in doing so okay for us IMMA fans there, but the quotes afterwards was that Tisha respected me too much. I could have knocked her out if I wanted to. Interesting, that's a large statement that where t Sha Torre is is right now. As a professional four oh always seemed to have warning track power, always was a great athlete, was able to be in there and looked like an elite fighter, but didn't have that extra gear to get over the top. And as you age, that only gets worse, which is why somebody like Claudia Gadella has so focused on sort of trying to round out her game at this sort of a critical turning point age in her career for Tisha Rocky's back in her life. It's great news, probably for a personal life, right for a professional life, though I'm not telling her to finish, But where are you going to go from here?

Well, this is also kind of interesting too, because the previous opponent she had lost to were all pretty good, including the next title challenge a where they jang that I do know, And you could say, well, she was losing too, you know, really good opponents, right, she was losing to title contenders or title holders. You're like, okay, fine, and now you're in a situation where like you're in Deep South America behind a paint Well, it reminds me of like, I don't think this is I don't think I don't think the comparison is quite fair. I'm going to say this out loud, It's not quite fair. But you get a little bit of a vibe of here's where Shad Evans in Mexico City fighting either it was it Dan Kelly or Sam Albi, one of the two. And you're like, well, it's it feels a little bit like that, a little culturally, but it feels like that.

Well, this is also kind of interesting too, because the previous opponent she had lost to were all pretty good, including the next title challenge a where they jang that I do know, And you could say, well, she was losing too, you know, really good opponents, right, she was losing to title contenders or title holders. You're like, okay, fine, and now you're in a situation where like you're in Deep South America behind a paint Well, it reminds me of like, I don't think this is I don't think I don't think the comparison is quite fair. I'm going to say this out loud, It's not quite fair. But you get a little bit of a vibe of here's where Shad Evans in Mexico City fighting either it was it Dan Kelly or Sam Albi, one of the two. And you're like, well, it's it feels a little bit like that, a little culturally, but it feels like that.

But here's the thing. There was no impulse in her to go for the win. And when you fight like that, you're not only not going to win eventually, you're going to get yourself knocked out consistently.

But here's the thing. There was no impulse in her to go for the win. And when you fight like that, you're not only not going to win eventually, you're going to get yourself knocked out consistently.

All Right, So then it takes us now to our boxing considerations. We're gonna circle back to because it is UFC two forty one fight week, I'm very excited, very excited. Let's talk about Anthony Joshua and Andy Ruiz rematching. First of all, it's gonna be in Saudi Arabia, number one, number two. Uh, they're calling it Clash of the Dunes. Whoever the moron is that came up with that name, fire this loser. Immediately, dooms, don't even clash? What kind of thing is this? Here comes the juice from my computer. That's not a thing, it doesn't exist. Here comes the buffalo from my light bulb. Sorry, you don't get buffalo from light bulbs. So, whoever the clown is that came up with that, fire this loser. Okay, that being said, let's assess the situation here for just a minute. Why are they fighting, of all places, Brian Campbell in Saudi Arabia.

All Right, So then it takes us now to our boxing considerations. We're gonna circle back to because it is UFC two forty one fight week, I'm very excited, very excited. Let's talk about Anthony Joshua and Andy Ruiz rematching. First of all, it's gonna be in Saudi Arabia, number one, number two. Uh, they're calling it Clash of the Dunes. Whoever the moron is that came up with that name, fire this loser. Immediately, dooms, don't even clash? What kind of thing is this? Here comes the juice from my computer. That's not a thing, it doesn't exist. Here comes the buffalo from my light bulb. Sorry, you don't get buffalo from light bulbs. So, whoever the clown is that came up with that, fire this loser. Okay, that being said, let's assess the situation here for just a minute. Why are they fighting, of all places, Brian Campbell in Saudi Arabia.

This is so I want to use the word sad because it's so blatant. Why they're doing this, Why does anybody go, why did WWE recently sign that ten year deal with Saudi Arabia despite political concerns and sort of culture contrasts that sort of contradict the things that ww' who.

This is so I want to use the word sad because it's so blatant. Why they're doing this, Why does anybody go, why did WWE recently sign that ten year deal with Saudi Arabia despite political concerns and sort of culture contrasts that sort of contradict the things that ww' who.

The Country Murder to Washington Post Journal.

The Country Murder to Washington Post Journal.

Not just that the idea that women can't compete on those shows when Ww's in the midst of this female revolution. So it just makes you look bad because you're doing it for the money. This seems to be the case right now, and this is a major fail for seemingly everyone involved. Here's why, Why is this a feel for Dezonne? What does what's to Zone trying to do right now? Trying to splash the market to get subscriptions, to get people to further put the image in your head that they're killing their pay per view business, that you shouldn't have to pay seventy eighty bucks for a fight. You should pay your monthly nine to ninety nine whatever you're paying, and that's fine, and you should get it do. Zone certainly thought the second half of this year would give them wilder Joshua with obviously didn't happen, but at the very least triple g Canlo three, which is now not happening, but at the very least Joshua Ruiz too, which is still happening. But what would that be. That's their last ten pole thing to grab onto to get people to have to see it and to have to subscribe. And what are they doing? Eddie hern matrim Sport, the promoter of Joshua, signed this deal to get all the money, but they're putting it on in the afternoon, head to head with the SEC Championship game, and a really inopportune time when if you want to draw attention to a fight, especially a fight of this magnitude. You have two options here of what they should have done. Number one, go back to the US. First one was in Madison Square Garden was a big deal. How about going to Cowboy Stadium. How about pump in that stadium full of Mexican American fans to back the first Mexican heavyweight champion, Andy Ruiz and creating a spectacle. Put it on at traditional times, eleven Eastern on Saturday night that people can watch it in this country. Or go to England where Anthony Joshua regularly fights in front of eighty and ninety thousand people in soccer stadiums and give him the comfort, the benefit of the doubt. You could argue this would be one of the biggest fights, if not the biggest, in English boxing history. And they take boxing very serious. Carl Frotch against George Groves in the States, decent series of two fights, not that big a deal. In England, eighty thousand sellouts at Wembley Stadium a giant ordeal. This fight would have been massive and they we're at a point right now for aj has a brand as a guy who was the face of the heavyweight division, the future face of boxing. He not only lost that fight, but if you hear the whispers, you hear the reports coming out he was knocked out in sparring a couple weeks before. Maybe shouldn't have been meant medically cleared. They push forward with the fight anyway. He goes in there, not in the right head, gets knocked out again. I don't know if he saw afterwards his dad was basically attacking Eddie Hern after the fight. Wouldn't you want that back in England with ninety thousand people supporting him to rebuild him back up, build up his image, build up his ego, get him back there and get him that victory. Now we're going to Saudi Arabia in a twelve thousand seed outdoor stadium.

Not just that the idea that women can't compete on those shows when Ww's in the midst of this female revolution. So it just makes you look bad because you're doing it for the money. This seems to be the case right now, and this is a major fail for seemingly everyone involved. Here's why, Why is this a feel for Dezonne? What does what's to Zone trying to do right now? Trying to splash the market to get subscriptions, to get people to further put the image in your head that they're killing their pay per view business, that you shouldn't have to pay seventy eighty bucks for a fight. You should pay your monthly nine to ninety nine whatever you're paying, and that's fine, and you should get it do. Zone certainly thought the second half of this year would give them wilder Joshua with obviously didn't happen, but at the very least triple g Canlo three, which is now not happening, but at the very least Joshua Ruiz too, which is still happening. But what would that be. That's their last ten pole thing to grab onto to get people to have to see it and to have to subscribe. And what are they doing? Eddie hern matrim Sport, the promoter of Joshua, signed this deal to get all the money, but they're putting it on in the afternoon, head to head with the SEC Championship game, and a really inopportune time when if you want to draw attention to a fight, especially a fight of this magnitude. You have two options here of what they should have done. Number one, go back to the US. First one was in Madison Square Garden was a big deal. How about going to Cowboy Stadium. How about pump in that stadium full of Mexican American fans to back the first Mexican heavyweight champion, Andy Ruiz and creating a spectacle. Put it on at traditional times, eleven Eastern on Saturday night that people can watch it in this country. Or go to England where Anthony Joshua regularly fights in front of eighty and ninety thousand people in soccer stadiums and give him the comfort, the benefit of the doubt. You could argue this would be one of the biggest fights, if not the biggest, in English boxing history. And they take boxing very serious. Carl Frotch against George Groves in the States, decent series of two fights, not that big a deal. In England, eighty thousand sellouts at Wembley Stadium a giant ordeal. This fight would have been massive and they we're at a point right now for aj has a brand as a guy who was the face of the heavyweight division, the future face of boxing. He not only lost that fight, but if you hear the whispers, you hear the reports coming out he was knocked out in sparring a couple weeks before. Maybe shouldn't have been meant medically cleared. They push forward with the fight anyway. He goes in there, not in the right head, gets knocked out again. I don't know if he saw afterwards his dad was basically attacking Eddie Hern after the fight. Wouldn't you want that back in England with ninety thousand people supporting him to rebuild him back up, build up his image, build up his ego, get him back there and get him that victory. Now we're going to Saudi Arabia in a twelve thousand seed outdoor stadium.

Not even I think Mike Coppinger reported seven thousand.

Not even I think Mike Coppinger reported seven thousand.

So the promoter can cash in and we're gonna put it on a completely inopportune time in the afternoon up against serious competition for American sports. What the hell's going on here? Like this is now making an event with how hot heavyweight boxing is right now and making it a crossover thing. You had to see That first fight got to people because of the image of a fat man knocking out the muscled heavyweight champion of the world. It got to people, it crossed over. Now you're basically kind of taking it away from him. You're going, what am I gonna watch? Howege football the most important game of the year or that. Yeah, if you're aj how do you agree to this? And I know Andrew Rui's making been making some headlines. He's sort of arguing, I need to get paid more if this is going to Saudi Arabia. I'm sorry, Andy, you have no leverage. This is what happens when you face the champion. You sign a deal that says we're gonna do the rematch and the price is set. He's gonna make nine million. It's a great payday. You're not gonna argue for more. I don't get outside of the obvious money grab, why they're doing this, And it also just looks bad. Why is UFC the only adult in the room. Remember when they pulled out a Saudi Arabia a couple months ago?

So the promoter can cash in and we're gonna put it on a completely inopportune time in the afternoon up against serious competition for American sports. What the hell's going on here? Like this is now making an event with how hot heavyweight boxing is right now and making it a crossover thing. You had to see That first fight got to people because of the image of a fat man knocking out the muscled heavyweight champion of the world. It got to people, it crossed over. Now you're basically kind of taking it away from him. You're going, what am I gonna watch? Howege football the most important game of the year or that. Yeah, if you're aj how do you agree to this? And I know Andrew Rui's making been making some headlines. He's sort of arguing, I need to get paid more if this is going to Saudi Arabia. I'm sorry, Andy, you have no leverage. This is what happens when you face the champion. You sign a deal that says we're gonna do the rematch and the price is set. He's gonna make nine million. It's a great payday. You're not gonna argue for more. I don't get outside of the obvious money grab, why they're doing this, And it also just looks bad. Why is UFC the only adult in the room. Remember when they pulled out a Saudi Arabia a couple months ago?

Remember that in March, Well, the Denver guys did. But they're going back to UAE, which has I believe they're a dobby. Anyway, They're having their own issues, so.

Remember that in March, Well, the Denver guys did. But they're going back to UAE, which has I believe they're a dobby. Anyway, They're having their own issues, so.

It seems it seems fairly shameless, and it seems like your biggest asset if you're designed. Now. They don't have Anthony Joshua exclusively under contract like they do Kanelo Alvares, but he's their biggest app arguably their second biggest asset besides Kanelo. Don't you want to protect this guy?

It seems it seems fairly shameless, and it seems like your biggest asset if you're designed. Now. They don't have Anthony Joshua exclusively under contract like they do Kanelo Alvares, but he's their biggest app arguably their second biggest asset besides Kanelo. Don't you want to protect this guy?

Yeah? And don't you I mean, what happened to the whole thing of like, let's make Joshua a big deal in the United States? I mean, with one fight, the one that didn't go well, and now you're abandoning it, or at least for the foreseeable future. It's not coming back or we don't know what the plan is with that. So this whole idea of turning him into some kind of again, to your point, you can put it in the UK and it's great, But this is supposed to be the next big heavyweight, hope. This was supposed to be his introduction to the big Apple. They were going to build off of that, and now you're a band, and I would have understood that they had gone back to the UK for the reasons aforementioned. I'm just sort of pointing out here there's no overture whatsoever to the US market on this one, other than oh, by the way, if you're subscribing, catch it at what three in the afternoon, like you would get clitchco at four pm or so, And again HBO would air those, but it wasn't like a full throated effort. Other other reason for those stories. Here's the one that sort of gets to me. It's like, you've got UFC going to Abu Dhabi, you've got this fight going on, You've got ww doing their issues with the Saudi government, and I thought I saw John Nash on Twitter make a point. He was like look, dude, people who make money off CTE don't care about human rights. You've even got the next World Cup, which people have to make. People have to ask themselves very clearly if that's something they're going to support. I don't know if you follow the story at all. First of all, how there's there's some suggestions that the World Cup ended up in twenty twenty two in Qatar. Cutter, Yes, I say, guitar for the donks, but it's.

Yeah? And don't you I mean, what happened to the whole thing of like, let's make Joshua a big deal in the United States? I mean, with one fight, the one that didn't go well, and now you're abandoning it, or at least for the foreseeable future. It's not coming back or we don't know what the plan is with that. So this whole idea of turning him into some kind of again, to your point, you can put it in the UK and it's great, But this is supposed to be the next big heavyweight, hope. This was supposed to be his introduction to the big Apple. They were going to build off of that, and now you're a band, and I would have understood that they had gone back to the UK for the reasons aforementioned. I'm just sort of pointing out here there's no overture whatsoever to the US market on this one, other than oh, by the way, if you're subscribing, catch it at what three in the afternoon, like you would get clitchco at four pm or so, And again HBO would air those, but it wasn't like a full throated effort. Other other reason for those stories. Here's the one that sort of gets to me. It's like, you've got UFC going to Abu Dhabi, you've got this fight going on, You've got ww doing their issues with the Saudi government, and I thought I saw John Nash on Twitter make a point. He was like look, dude, people who make money off CTE don't care about human rights. You've even got the next World Cup, which people have to make. People have to ask themselves very clearly if that's something they're going to support. I don't know if you follow the story at all. First of all, how there's there's some suggestions that the World Cup ended up in twenty twenty two in Qatar. Cutter, Yes, I say, guitar for the donks, but it's.

Like trying to pronounce things on this show.

Like trying to pronounce things on this show.

I used to live in Cutter, No no need. My friend was grew up in dohap Okay. Point being is this they they got up on by track now, God damn it. The point being is when you look at the human rights abuses, it's not these people don't They don't invest in these considerations the same way. And so it asks you like, well, what is the right answer in this modern economy, do you want to go and and try to open up these parts of the world by introducing them to westernized forms of entertainment and sensibilities. I can buy that. On the other hand, I'm always sort of struck by what John McEnroe did. John McEnroe at the height of apartheid in South Africa, was offered. You know, this is back in the eighties or so, was offered a million dollars at the time, which at the time is an extraoring amount of money to go compete for. I think it was even an exhibition match. And he said no, yeah, he ain't gonna place Sun City, right. So here's the thing. It's like, on the one hand, you know, I had a lot of sign on my show because he just did a tour through Satura, Arabia, and I asked him this very same thing, and he takes the former view, which is, look, man, these these parts of the world are not going to open if you don't get in there and open them up. But do we really think that's what Eddie hern is doing is some like mission for democracy and.

I used to live in Cutter, No no need. My friend was grew up in dohap Okay. Point being is this they they got up on by track now, God damn it. The point being is when you look at the human rights abuses, it's not these people don't They don't invest in these considerations the same way. And so it asks you like, well, what is the right answer in this modern economy, do you want to go and and try to open up these parts of the world by introducing them to westernized forms of entertainment and sensibilities. I can buy that. On the other hand, I'm always sort of struck by what John McEnroe did. John McEnroe at the height of apartheid in South Africa, was offered. You know, this is back in the eighties or so, was offered a million dollars at the time, which at the time is an extraoring amount of money to go compete for. I think it was even an exhibition match. And he said no, yeah, he ain't gonna place Sun City, right. So here's the thing. It's like, on the one hand, you know, I had a lot of sign on my show because he just did a tour through Satura, Arabia, and I asked him this very same thing, and he takes the former view, which is, look, man, these these parts of the world are not going to open if you don't get in there and open them up. But do we really think that's what Eddie hern is doing is some like mission for democracy and.

It's a money reb And look, look, I don't mind stealing bread from the mouth of decadence, all right. But here's the point. I'm not even here to argue the we shouldn't go to Saudi Ray because this and that one I'm a perfectly reasonable consideration. More to argue, why are you doing this if you're design when you're trying to hit a certain market. I mean they had a press conference this morning without the fighters was Eddie Hearn and a representative in Saudi Arabia. Jake Donovan, a boxing writer on Twitter, basically said it looked like a timeshare presentation. It just looks bad. It looks ultimately shameless, and I think you're take your watering down and moving from an opportunity to continue this heavyweight momentum. Oh, this book, the sport gets crossover fans through the heavyweight division. It's always been the gateway drug, and now you're just kind of cash in and this one it's typical boxing, okay, taking away a piece of the pie rather than having the potential to share it with everyone and make the whole sport okay.

It's a money reb And look, look, I don't mind stealing bread from the mouth of decadence, all right. But here's the point. I'm not even here to argue the we shouldn't go to Saudi Ray because this and that one I'm a perfectly reasonable consideration. More to argue, why are you doing this if you're design when you're trying to hit a certain market. I mean they had a press conference this morning without the fighters was Eddie Hearn and a representative in Saudi Arabia. Jake Donovan, a boxing writer on Twitter, basically said it looked like a timeshare presentation. It just looks bad. It looks ultimately shameless, and I think you're take your watering down and moving from an opportunity to continue this heavyweight momentum. Oh, this book, the sport gets crossover fans through the heavyweight division. It's always been the gateway drug, and now you're just kind of cash in and this one it's typical boxing, okay, taking away a piece of the pie rather than having the potential to share it with everyone and make the whole sport okay.

But I don't want to diminish this part of the conversation about the moral implications here and again people think because the answers are difficult, that therefore not worth pursuing. The most important questions in life don't have simple answers. The most important questions in life actually have really difficult ones, and they're worth trying to work through. The point I was trying to make about Cutter, was this the stadiums required for the World Cup in twenty twenty two could only be built on what is base sickly the modern equivalent of slavery, and dozens, dozens of imported workers from South Asian countries have died trying to make these stadiums. If you watch the World Cup in twenty twenty two, and many of us probably will, I don't know how I feel about it. You're watching things that, like, I mean, the amount of human suffering that had to go in to make that possible is extraordinary. And so dude, these questions are relevant. These questions are relevant as a consumer, what role do you play in facilitating this? And also you know this too, because this is true on the MMA side of things. Forget just boxing for a moment, combat sports, and I would include in this particular case, pro wrestling. They attract a certain kind of person, often normal. They also attract another kind of person who has a real fluid, if not sometimes bankrupt morality.

But I don't want to diminish this part of the conversation about the moral implications here and again people think because the answers are difficult, that therefore not worth pursuing. The most important questions in life don't have simple answers. The most important questions in life actually have really difficult ones, and they're worth trying to work through. The point I was trying to make about Cutter, was this the stadiums required for the World Cup in twenty twenty two could only be built on what is base sickly the modern equivalent of slavery, and dozens, dozens of imported workers from South Asian countries have died trying to make these stadiums. If you watch the World Cup in twenty twenty two, and many of us probably will, I don't know how I feel about it. You're watching things that, like, I mean, the amount of human suffering that had to go in to make that possible is extraordinary. And so dude, these questions are relevant. These questions are relevant as a consumer, what role do you play in facilitating this? And also you know this too, because this is true on the MMA side of things. Forget just boxing for a moment, combat sports, and I would include in this particular case, pro wrestling. They attract a certain kind of person, often normal. They also attract another kind of person who has a real fluid, if not sometimes bankrupt morality.

Yeah, I was, I was one. I was. I was really going to question you're often normal?

Yeah, I was, I was one. I was. I was really going to question you're often normal?

Hold on, there are normal people, and the good normal ones get co opted all the time. And I don't know when you're supposed to draw the line. Maybe this actually isn't the one wee you're supposed draw the line. I'm not suggesting that it is, but rather, I don't think that the predominant concern here is about disown to me, the predominant concern here is is this something we should be supporting?

Hold on, there are normal people, and the good normal ones get co opted all the time. And I don't know when you're supposed to draw the line. Maybe this actually isn't the one wee you're supposed draw the line. I'm not suggesting that it is, but rather, I don't think that the predominant concern here is about disown to me, the predominant concern here is is this something we should be supporting?

Yeah, and if you're a fan and or journalist and you were excited about the potential of going to this fight, you're gonna go.

Yeah, and if you're a fan and or journalist and you were excited about the potential of going to this fight, you're gonna go.

No. I don't know. By the way, if you're this is a legitimate question. If you're let's see, you're a female journalist, are you allowed to go cover this? Thw No.

No. I don't know. By the way, if you're this is a legitimate question. If you're let's see, you're a female journalist, are you allowed to go cover this? Thw No.

So there's there's there's much deeper, you know, hooks to this in branches. You're right in terms of the social justice of it, but uh, look, if you're Anthony Joshua again.

So there's there's there's much deeper, you know, hooks to this in branches. You're right in terms of the social justice of it, but uh, look, if you're Anthony Joshua again.

I wish you wouldn't use that term. It's not a social justice issue. It's a basic decency issue. It's a basic decency issue. That's a politically loaded term that's gonna steer the conversation in a wrong direction. It's just a it's a question of like what kind of thing are you are you going to tolerate and be a part of. That's it, right, pretty fair. I think, yeah, anyway, they're gonna do it. They're gonna make a buttload of cash, and we're probably gonna watch because we're a losers. Okay, let's get back to the UFC if we can for just a second. UFC two forty one, Brian is days away. I'm very excited about it. Paper reviews back in our lives, and let's start with a fight that has been I think I would say under the radar up until this week a little bit. The return of Nate ds taken on Anthony Pes. We talked about it last week, but then they reframed the conversation Brian on Saturday Show. They're pitching it like it's a Das brother versus the guy on the wheaties box. Okay, that's now, that's now. In fairness to the UFC, those are kind of words from Das, not kind of those are words from Das' own mouth. I just find it funny because it is an interesting contrast to draw. It's a hell of a fight, but also Das has always kind of wanted to be the hero and keeps being presented, if not the villain, certainly the iconoclass to a degree, and it's like, Wow, they just keep marketing this guy in a way he doesn't want to be seen. It's still pretty effective. I wonder what you made of it.

I wish you wouldn't use that term. It's not a social justice issue. It's a basic decency issue. It's a basic decency issue. That's a politically loaded term that's gonna steer the conversation in a wrong direction. It's just a it's a question of like what kind of thing are you are you going to tolerate and be a part of. That's it, right, pretty fair. I think, yeah, anyway, they're gonna do it. They're gonna make a buttload of cash, and we're probably gonna watch because we're a losers. Okay, let's get back to the UFC if we can for just a second. UFC two forty one, Brian is days away. I'm very excited about it. Paper reviews back in our lives, and let's start with a fight that has been I think I would say under the radar up until this week a little bit. The return of Nate ds taken on Anthony Pes. We talked about it last week, but then they reframed the conversation Brian on Saturday Show. They're pitching it like it's a Das brother versus the guy on the wheaties box. Okay, that's now, that's now. In fairness to the UFC, those are kind of words from Das, not kind of those are words from Das' own mouth. I just find it funny because it is an interesting contrast to draw. It's a hell of a fight, but also Das has always kind of wanted to be the hero and keeps being presented, if not the villain, certainly the iconoclass to a degree, and it's like, Wow, they just keep marketing this guy in a way he doesn't want to be seen. It's still pretty effective. I wonder what you made of it.

No, it was great. You said it was a change. It's the first time in this fight has really been marketed since an Anoulyns. It was almost as a clearer Yeah, it was almost as if it was certainly hot on the on the underground levels from fans. I couldn't wait for it. From a corporate presentation, it hasn't been pushed out there. It's almost oddly ironic because it's got this old narrative of the guy in the wheaties box. But that may be the last time Nate Diaz was a consistent regular fighter looking to stay active and be part of title contentions. I mean, it really feels like it's been that long, But I love it. I love that when this fight was announced, they both sort of in their first initial interviews offered that I care about this fight a lot more than new people realize. I really want to beat that other guy. I really seem to have personal issues. It kind of has a retro feel to it, even if this storyline feels a little bit dated, But I want them both in there with that type of focus and that type of mentality. It's interesting. I can't figure out whether this fight, and you maybe you can tell me, is just what it is. It's just two really good personalities that we love and exciting fight styles and hey, let's meet them together right in here. Or if this fight actually has super big importance as to where the winner will go from here.

No, it was great. You said it was a change. It's the first time in this fight has really been marketed since an Anoulyns. It was almost as a clearer Yeah, it was almost as if it was certainly hot on the on the underground levels from fans. I couldn't wait for it. From a corporate presentation, it hasn't been pushed out there. It's almost oddly ironic because it's got this old narrative of the guy in the wheaties box. But that may be the last time Nate Diaz was a consistent regular fighter looking to stay active and be part of title contentions. I mean, it really feels like it's been that long, But I love it. I love that when this fight was announced, they both sort of in their first initial interviews offered that I care about this fight a lot more than new people realize. I really want to beat that other guy. I really seem to have personal issues. It kind of has a retro feel to it, even if this storyline feels a little bit dated, But I want them both in there with that type of focus and that type of mentality. It's interesting. I can't figure out whether this fight, and you maybe you can tell me, is just what it is. It's just two really good personalities that we love and exciting fight styles and hey, let's meet them together right in here. Or if this fight actually has super big importance as to where the winner will go from here.

I think it's well, it's a little bit of both. Right, Let's say there were no implications for the division, would you in your mind?

I think it's well, it's a little bit of both. Right, Let's say there were no implications for the division, would you in your mind?

But you mean the division. It's almost like they're in two different divisions at the same time.

But you mean the division. It's almost like they're in two different divisions at the same time.

Hence the brilliance of the whole call. Right, let's be let's just be lightweights masquerading as welterweights so we can cash in whichever way the wind blows in our favor. It's smart. Actually, I don't mind it at all. But okay, I mean, if you had to ask yourself, is that going to be an action fight? I mean you would have a hard time presenting it as anything but a.

Hence the brilliance of the whole call. Right, let's be let's just be lightweights masquerading as welterweights so we can cash in whichever way the wind blows in our favor. It's smart. Actually, I don't mind it at all. But okay, I mean, if you had to ask yourself, is that going to be an action fight? I mean you would have a hard time presenting it as anything but a.

Traction or is it a super important fight that fits into the narrative of both divisions?

Traction or is it a super important fight that fits into the narrative of both divisions?

So I think if let's let's examine here. Let's say Pettest wins, the Petis wins in a way that is I'm not saying anything to win by stoppage, but dominant. Let's call it dominant. Right. So now he moves up to welterweight, he beats wonder Boy Thompson finishes him, and let's say he would beat Nate Diaz. This would certainly put him in I would think the catbirds seat right at welterweight. He would be in an enormously strong negotiating position. He would be have boosted his brand appeal. This would be the guy who was in the wheaties box who maybe he did have a bit of a hard time in his career, kind of change some things up, but went over this and dissected he's a little bit more. He's always been a bit of a creative risk taker, but I think he's much more now of like I'm gonna take that big shot and not a lot in between. I'm gonna take that big punch. It doesn't land, I might fade a little bit. He's a little bit he's a little bit like riskier with the with the all in on this shot or that show a little bit a little bit like that, but he's still beating good guys. In fact, if you already beat Thompson and it beats Daz, I'm not saying he gets back to that level where he was on the weaedies box again, like let's put him right back on there. But I would say it would be a recapturing of something that I think people now I thought was lost but maybe gone forever. He gets all of that back. In the case of Diaz, if he wins, dude, he's cooking with gas because the last guy two guys he fought were the same guy, Connor McGregor. Before that, Michael Johnson long time ago. I said, two guys will two fights, but you know one guy anyway, you get the idea. So it's a been of a long time ago. This'd be the first guy he beat since fighting Connor McGregor. Right, think about that for a second. So it would lead to a question of where he would go from there. Now that's where it gets kind of interesting.

So I think if let's let's examine here. Let's say Pettest wins, the Petis wins in a way that is I'm not saying anything to win by stoppage, but dominant. Let's call it dominant. Right. So now he moves up to welterweight, he beats wonder Boy Thompson finishes him, and let's say he would beat Nate Diaz. This would certainly put him in I would think the catbirds seat right at welterweight. He would be in an enormously strong negotiating position. He would be have boosted his brand appeal. This would be the guy who was in the wheaties box who maybe he did have a bit of a hard time in his career, kind of change some things up, but went over this and dissected he's a little bit more. He's always been a bit of a creative risk taker, but I think he's much more now of like I'm gonna take that big shot and not a lot in between. I'm gonna take that big punch. It doesn't land, I might fade a little bit. He's a little bit he's a little bit like riskier with the with the all in on this shot or that show a little bit a little bit like that, but he's still beating good guys. In fact, if you already beat Thompson and it beats Daz, I'm not saying he gets back to that level where he was on the weaedies box again, like let's put him right back on there. But I would say it would be a recapturing of something that I think people now I thought was lost but maybe gone forever. He gets all of that back. In the case of Diaz, if he wins, dude, he's cooking with gas because the last guy two guys he fought were the same guy, Connor McGregor. Before that, Michael Johnson long time ago. I said, two guys will two fights, but you know one guy anyway, you get the idea. So it's a been of a long time ago. This'd be the first guy he beat since fighting Connor McGregor. Right, think about that for a second. So it would lead to a question of where he would go from there. Now that's where it gets kind of interesting.

We're gonna say it comes down to basically orange in this fight. We love Anthony Pattis, but a real interest in this fight is the return of Nadiez and the idea of If he wins this, which road is Which road is the UFC going to allow him to take? Is this just let's get Nick Nathiez back in there and reshine up his brand and then prep him up for one more give him a Connor third fight or or whatever. Or is this let's actually finally fix the glitch, fix this error when he became a crossover Monsters star through riding with Connor, through those two fights, which are what like two and four in the most in terms of the biggest pay per views in UFC history, and done nothing with him. If Nate wins again, is he just an attraction that UFC still doesn't know what they have? Or you could make just the biggest as big of a case that he becomes an instant title contender in both divisions, or that he becomes Tony Ferguson's consolation prize if Connor slides in there and gets the winner of Dustin and Habib.

We're gonna say it comes down to basically orange in this fight. We love Anthony Pattis, but a real interest in this fight is the return of Nadiez and the idea of If he wins this, which road is Which road is the UFC going to allow him to take? Is this just let's get Nick Nathiez back in there and reshine up his brand and then prep him up for one more give him a Connor third fight or or whatever. Or is this let's actually finally fix the glitch, fix this error when he became a crossover Monsters star through riding with Connor, through those two fights, which are what like two and four in the most in terms of the biggest pay per views in UFC history, and done nothing with him. If Nate wins again, is he just an attraction that UFC still doesn't know what they have? Or you could make just the biggest as big of a case that he becomes an instant title contender in both divisions, or that he becomes Tony Ferguson's consolation prize if Connor slides in there and gets the winner of Dustin and Habib.

So there's too many variables to know. Partly, we're going to have to see how Nate wants to lead this. In fact, dude, look how this fight was made. Duke Ruffis told me it was Nate's people who called up Pettic's people and said you want that smoke. They said, we want that smoke, took that smoke to the UFC. UFC signed off on And my only point being is Diaz is a guy who likes to call his own shots. With a smart team behind him, they might be able to get on the mic afterwards and say we want X or Y. Maybe it's Tony, maybe it's Connor, maybe it's a title shot. I don't know. I don't know. We're you have to see how that all goes. But I'm not too concerned. I think if he wins, I'm not gonna say cart blanche, but I'm gonna say anything he can effectively sell.

So there's too many variables to know. Partly, we're going to have to see how Nate wants to lead this. In fact, dude, look how this fight was made. Duke Ruffis told me it was Nate's people who called up Pettic's people and said you want that smoke. They said, we want that smoke, took that smoke to the UFC. UFC signed off on And my only point being is Diaz is a guy who likes to call his own shots. With a smart team behind him, they might be able to get on the mic afterwards and say we want X or Y. Maybe it's Tony, maybe it's Connor, maybe it's a title shot. I don't know. I don't know. We're you have to see how that all goes. But I'm not too concerned. I think if he wins, I'm not gonna say cart blanche, but I'm gonna say anything he can effectively sell.

See. I can't believe that the UFC would give him that type of leeway based on the recent history and how Danny White.

See. I can't believe that the UFC would give him that type of leeway based on the recent history and how Danny White.

This is a thing that they'll deny. I know it is true. They offered him a title fight at one seventy with Tyrone Woodley. That is absolutely true.

This is a thing that they'll deny. I know it is true. They offered him a title fight at one seventy with Tyrone Woodley. That is absolutely true.

What do you think in your heart's happened Nate turning tone? Or or was it not enough mine? I know exactly what happened Nate.

What do you think in your heart's happened Nate turning tone? Or or was it not enough mine? I know exactly what happened Nate.

They offered X for money, Nate asked for two X they told Nate to go pound sand. That's exactly what happened.

They offered X for money, Nate asked for two X they told Nate to go pound sand. That's exactly what happened.

Is that is a fact.

Is that is a fact.

That's what happened. So he didn't say no. He just said, if I'm gonna fight this on these terms, you're gonna pay me. UFC said, we're not all right.

That's what happened. So he didn't say no. He just said, if I'm gonna fight this on these terms, you're gonna pay me. UFC said, we're not all right.

Well, what I love most about this matchup, outside of this celebri returning factor and all that we get these fighters back, we get Nadez back, is how do you have any confidence of what each guy's going to look like, because certainly there's the three year gap with Nate mixed with the sort of mercurial nature of the diaz Is where at any point on the highest level sometimes they can sort of not mail in but give you a weird performance. And then pettis, I can't figure out Luke if he was better than we thought against Tony Ferguson and almost won that fight and almost had a hard luck loss, or it's a fool's gold win against Thompson because he lost basically every second of that fight and then comes through with the monster finish at the end.