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Tyson Fury Stops Deontay Wilder, UFC Auckland, Is Fury vs. Joshua Next?

Published Feb 24, 2020, 7:39 PM

Luke and Brian breakdown Tyson Fury's dominating TKO win over Deontay Wilder. They discuss what's next for both fighters, Fury's legacy, and if there is a chance we get Fury vs. Joshua in 2020. They also talk UFC Auckland and what the results mean.

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Well you just can't get through five seconds of conversation without going Dix Dix everywhere Dix. So please subscribe, subscribe, subcrib subscribe. That's how we get to the next level. Okay, now, this gentleman, Brian Campbell from CBS Sports was in Las Vegas. And why was he in Las Vegas. Let's get the show started, Brian Campbell, because topic number one, this was the crown jewel of the Combat Sports Weekend And Anthony Josh What am I saying? Tyson Fury defeats Deontay Wilder via TKO in the seventh round. Deonta's corner throws the towel controversially. We'll talk about that, but the bigger story here is that Tyson Fury absolutely dummied Deontay Wilder. This was not competitive at any point, not to the first round, not to the seventh round. Nothing. He's now your WBC heavyweight champion, Brian Campbell. There are so much to unpack from this, but you were there. I saw your hit on CBS Sports about it, So let's go to you first on this one. Tell me what the most significant aspect is of this Fury win over Deontay Wilder.

That you have this great heavyweight in Tyson Fury, this unique force, but had been such a eccentric person in career where it's like, we know his talent's great, but he's only had what one and a half great wins coming in the clits go upset and the draw with Wilder in the first fight, which we thought was a win. He'd been radick, he'd been in and out of the lineup, he'd been playing up or down to the level of his competition, and he has one hole in his game.

He's not a finisher, and yet for.

The biggest fight of his career two months before he switches trainers, switches mindset, switches strategy, and walks in there against the biggest puncher of our era and knocks him out and calls his own shot like this is folk hero shit, This is Paul Bunyan. This is George Foreman at age forty five knocking out Michael Moore.

This is sort of like a pinch me. I remember where I was. I was there.

I was in the Dan Arena at the MGM grand to be able to see somebody who we knew was great or had the potential on his best night to be great, to just do something that doesn't make any sense. A supposed light punching defensive genius is just like fit, I'm gonna walk this guy down and knock him out. Now, there's a lot of details into that. Professor Salt and Pepper this week, folks, you gotta check out Dissected. Luke gets it, Luke Knear Jimmy on this. Obviously, there was a giant advantage for Fury coming in and technique.

We all knew that.

But to literally walk down the biggest puncher in this game and just declare I'm not only the heavyweight of this moment, we would love to Sey.

Him against Anthon Joshua.

Believe me, but I'm not only the heavyweight of this moment, but I might be an all time great because what just happened out there is like they're they'renna build a statue to this guy one day, like this was some crazy shit.

The Big Lead is an interesting website. I liked The Big Lead, but they had made a comment that Tyson Fury is the heir to Floyd Mayweather, and I thought, well, that's right, and that's wrong. It's wrong in a sense that if you're talking about who's the biggest combat sports star now that Floyd is retired or whatever the hell he's going to do, then it's Connor McGregor. Connor McGregor is the biggest combat sports star. People say, what about Canelo, Dude, Canelo's fight against Covilev up to weight classes. Their own broadcaster and promoter made him wait two hours so that two guys who are not as popular as him, could as McGregor, could then fight first. So I think Canelo is much more paid. I don't think he's the biggest combat sports star, but if we're talking just boxing, maybe it even is still Canelo Boy. Tyson Fury is nipping at his heels. This was a star making performance because he had what the first fight with Wilder did, I think about three hundred thousand plus pay per view bys then he goes to the two fights on ESPN Plus, which were not that well known, and then he comes out with this one.

You guys okay in the back by the way, Yeah, I hope they can get it together. The lapel he is running to show, how good could it be? But the point being is is is number one. This was his best performance. This is much better than the Klitchko performance. This was much better than the first Fury performance. And even against overmatched opposition. Could you believe that Derek Chezora Land lasted longer than Deontay Wilder didn't?

Don't be smirch douboy out.

Well, this is my point. It's like he's a better boxer, but he was so outmatched in that one. But from a physicality standpoint, from a boxing standpoint, you would have thought, well, Wilder already went twelve rounds with him, He'll last longer than Sheezora, And no he doesn't. So to me, this was about two things for Tyson Fury. To me, he turned a corner as a star in the sport in this country and worldwide on that and we're talking about just a second and number two was also get to this. But I think that's your best heavyweight in boxing. Tyson Fury is the best heavyweight in boxing. I think he walks walks through. I think he beats Anthony Joshua. We already saw what he did to Deontay Wilder. I would love to see Andy Ruiz fight, maybe even Luis Ortiz if somehow you could make it all. But right now, that performance told me it's not the Gypsy King. It's just the King, Tyson Fury. All hail him and.

I you know, and I came in here on the show last week and everywhere else CBS, HQ, my podcast, all that, and said, look like this idea of Tyson Fury calling a shot for a knockout. No one believed second round ko right, but the idea that this could happen when you put together the skills and the size. I mean when he adds nearly twenty pounds of muscle luke and comes in at six nine two seventy three and has a forty pound weight advantage over Wilder and knows how to lay all over him and be quasi dirty. It was in play. A knockout was possible, even though it just seems on the surface as so ridiculous.

But the fact that he goes out there and does it, Luke, does.

It without controversy, does it start to finish completely one sided? You're right, this is how you make a damn star because I saw a lot of this brings out the casuals, and it should, Luke. When you get a heavyweight title matchup that means this much and you have players on this level with the personalities, the look, the records, the styles, all that it should matter. I go on Facebook and see the casuals in my life right and they're like, you know, finally boxing has stars again that can cross over. Well, no boxing always has stars. Tyson Fury has been doing this song and dance crap for years and has been incredible at it. But the best are fighting the best right now. In fact, you saw a two net pay per view. You saw Bob Aaron and Al Hayman come together in all week. Every single person in the media room anywhere you talk to is like, there's the easiest fight week I've ever seen. Which it certainly bodes well for the future of people working together. But it takes fights like this that the public cares about to make those big time stars. And I think he's not bigger than Connor MacGregor, but here's what he is. We haven't had an American face since Floyd Mayweather retired.

Manny Pacio is still around.

Many Pacio has a giant audience, right, but the US hasn't taken Canelo at a mainstream level and fully embraced them. Right. You can argue Triple G's more popular in the States than Canelo. Canelos doesn't speak English. He's absolutely amazing, but it's still a boxing niche thing. Tyson Fury, with this win, with the way that Fox and ESPN promoted him, he's now the.

Most popular boxer in the United States.

How could he not be When you have the personal story, you have the singing and dancing and all that stuff.

And then you have a performance like that.

Again, had he just completely bamboozled him for twelve rounds and did the defensive, shifty stuff, we would have stood up in applaud No, he walked the guy down and was probably gonna knock him out. Anyway, if the corner didn't save him again, this is rumble in the jungle in the modern era. I mean, maybe you know, Deontay Wilder's not George Foreman, and Tyson Fury is not Mhammad Ali. But the idea of doing the impossible, doing what your skill set wouldn't seem to make sense, going in there with that much danger, calling your shot and pulling it off. I mean when Ali did that, and you had Ali, Puma A and and Zaire, and you had all the the kids that that suddenly saw folk hero emerge in front of them. Being in the arena, there was a lot of young English boys. They're all dressed in pinstripe suits, all trying to get close to Tyson during the entrance. I've never I've never seen kids at boxing matches on this level. Can you imagine what the apparently a good point. Could you imagine what they're thinking, like, we just saw somebody do something that's just absolutely he'll be.

R Tyson was Mike Tyson, Their Tyson will be Tyson Fury to me. You know, it's kind of funny. We've been over the Clitchco era for a while. You know, obviously he lost to Tyson Fury. He lost to Anthony Joshua, Like the shift already happened. But I don't think that the casual sports watching audience had really either understood or even accepted that, because, look, you had Anthony Joshua emerge and then he loses to Andy Ruiz, so I had to do that rematch, and it wasn't particularly a scouting and they fought in Saudi Arabia. Joshua got his belts back, that's all fine, he earned the fight or the wind, It's okay. And then you had this draw between Fury and Wilder in the first fight, So no one had really kind of put their stamp on the division and said I'm the new leader. This was the nail in the coffin of the Klitchko era. Now folks can firmly say, wow, we really are past that. This is a new dawn for heavyweight boxing. We now have a north star, so to speak, in Tyson Fury. Now Deontay Waller will be back. We'll talk about that in the second. Anthony Joshua is a viable a contender or what a contender, but you know, an opponent and a challenger and a boxer as everything else as well as a star making attraction. Nevertheless, though, I finally felt like, Okay, we have turned the page from the old impression of what heavyweight boxing has been to Yeah, not the most clued in audience, but the not most cluted audience is the biggest audience. They need firm, firm confirmation. Boy, that was there and they need you know.

Look, the audience still tuned in for the biggest Floyd Mayweather fights, right, he still did monster paper view numbers because he's a master seller.

Well, come on, that was just bad matchmaking. Sorry, sorry, showd up.

But for the casual fans, Luke, they still paid the money, tuned in and then we're like, man, I don't get it. That was a boring fight. Blah blah blah. There's there's nothing boring about this. This is how you make this. This is how you become a star. And I think for Fury, because he's so polarizing, he hits every audience based perfectly. If you're only watching him because he's got this great mental health comeback story, you're hooked. If you're only watching him because you used to remember him going online and ripping every nationality or grouper or sex or whatever.

You might thank you this guy some badass.

If you only care because he walked down that slugger and knocked him out, suddenly you've built a nation of fans. I think that this is a guy who has a special kind of magic around him.

Like I compared in the past econom McGregor and.

Ali and I think this fan bases like talk about a gamble that Bob Aeronman company did wow by throwing money out in co promoting him at that time when you're like, okay, he had the drug against Wilder, but can he keep the train on the tracks. And even this past year when Fury had two wins, I mean he almost lost the title the Odo Otto Valeen by a massive cut. And to see him then when the lights are the brightest, and that's when you know Fury is an actual ald timer. When the lights are the absolute brightest, this guy exceed your expectations through way.

PASSI Klein was so ballsy, so genius. He didn't have the flare for the dramatic in the way that out of Soignya dancing did per se. But in terms of just utter confidence and the risk you run if you lose, it was amazing to see. I'll say this too about Tessa Fury. It needs to be said. If you watched the first fight with Wilder and then you watched the German scrub who he whacked.

The schwas yeah, yes, the Swarz doing outto Valeen.

You didn't get the sense that you always knew Tyson was a good boxer. You kind of alluded to it. You almost kind of knew Fury was ahead of the game if you really needed to be, if he needed to jab his way to twelve rounds. Dude, I was very skeptical that switching to sugar Hill Stewart was the right idea I had. I did have George Lockhart on my radio show and he did confirm for me, so he assayed some of my concerns about the weight.

So I was less concerned about the weight. But I don't know.

I think Ben Davison is a credible coach. I think he's a good trainer, and I like where his head was at. I thought I thought they had a winning game plan the first time. But dude, wow, we have to say it. Tyson Fury has leveled up. I'm not saying he can't go back and do the jab twelve rounds if he needs to, depending on the styles. But this was the point about the first fight. The first fight was just sort of avoid the worst of Deontay. This was avoid the worst of Deontay by never letting Deontay get out of first gear.

Absolutely, the boxer became the puncher, Luke. He stepped to the bully, and the bully had nothing left. And this is not well by the way, the bully had more to give because Wilder was willing to go out and everything.

This is why I don't I think Anthony Joshua want to be by be in trouble you have in the case of Fury. Now he can go two ways with him. He can go forward if he needs to to dominate. He can back up if he needs to to be slick about it. Every space of that ring he commands. I think it's not just that he got a dominating winner, that the clitchical era is over, that a new star is born, and that the boxing powers that be worked together. All of that is true. Dude, he got better, He got way better. That was a brilliant game plan and it shows us not only is I think he the best heavyweight on the planet, he's the most versatile boxer in the heavyweight division, certainly at the elite.

Level, and it's always hard to compare eras, but it becomes fun when you start doing the how great could Tyson Fury be if he adds a couple more big wins and rounds out the resume a little more. When you're comparing a guy whos six foot nine with that skill set, Luke, you can you can play mythical matchup with anybody in history because he's got I mean, look, he completely.

Well rounded himself. He's got everything.

So let's go to the next one here on I'm going to go to you again on this one too. The big question now is, as it always is in combat sports, you get a big win and then people always say, well, what is next now. Eddie Hearn, the promoter of Matchroom Boxing, has a deal with Dezone Anthony joshuas deal co into Brian Campbe, which we talk about just a second. It's not exclusive per se, and all the powers that be are saying we're gonna make it happen. If sometime in the summer, we're gonna find a way to get Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury together Brian Campbell, please go first. What is the likelihood of that? And we'll talk about how big o'd be in just a second, But first let's talk about some of the obstacles to making that happen, such as the exist.

Well, I do want to say, I think it'd be the biggest fight in boxing.

You can make. The biggest fight in boxing right now is Anthony Joshua versus Tyson Fury for all the belts.

I don't care if you go to.

That dead serious question is that and I'm not doing a bit. What sells more pay per views? That which, by the way, we'll be in the UK, which will hurt its payer reviews.

And be in Saudi Araba, could be on the moon.

I don't care. I think it's still gonna mey wither McGregor two. See that's not it's not real boxing. Okay, Tooche may Pack two might even eclipse it. Just on to your point, Okay, it's not gonna happen this year, and we got to.

Wake up to this.

It's not gonna happen this year because business and money talk.

So here's the deal.

I think that was that fight was exceptionally promoted especially the last two weeks, especially fight week, while the wall everywhere you.

Thought, ESPN did a phenomenal job.

Every single corner f S one, ESPN, whatever it was, this fight, wire to wire, they did an incredible job. That means you're probably gonna see great receipts. Deonty Wilder has thirty days to cash in order to trigger this automatic rematch clause. There's a lot we can talk about here. Wilder took a ton of damage. You know, was the corner right and stopping when they did. We get into all that, but here's the deal. Wilder's in every single fight, and even though Fury was incredibly dominant and amazing in this fight, that was a Wilder. I feel like there's gonna be some excuse that comes up, right, he did say after the fight, when saying I'm not gonna excuses, he referenced some personal problems. There's some feeling of a leg injury. I just feel like something's going to pop up. It won't take away from Tyson Fury's win, but you can go back and watch it and you did. That's not Deanty Wilder. That's not the Deontay Wilder.

We know. He took a horrendous beating.

But I know the fighter that's inside of him and the warrior, and when you have that style where you could knock somebody out at any time, we're going to see this third fight. The promoters and managers and powers that be are going to make sure that you have to believe that at this point.

And also for as great as Fury is.

And he's proven now twice in my eyes, that he's better than Wilder. While they're still in that fight, wild they're still in that fight in a big way.

We're going to see that fight he's in.

He's in that fight in a big way promotionally, and I think some of the obstacles you are. We're gonna talk more about it with Anthony Joshua just a second, but I have to say, well, we'll get to Wilder in just a second. But I really disagree he's in that fight. He looked that way where he was just sort of like a lamb to the slaughter. Because Tyson Fury made.

Him look that way, he got he got dominated from start to fight.

Saying that why Wilder.

Delibrium shots change fights as when Anthony Joshua got hit by Ruis.

I'm not saying a third fight would look exactly the same, or that Wilder can't make adjustments. Obviously he can, and you're right, you still got that nuclear power. You never know, And he did land a couple of those on Fury a little bit early. I was like a Fury moved with it, but he took it. But there is We knew there was a gap in skill before we thought it was this. It is this, dude. It is a major difference in skill. Wilder's got an uphill climb for the third one. But still if they wanted for folks who are like, why can't they just make it between Joshua and Fury? Now?

What is the So Joshua fights on his own. Ever since his Zone launched, he's been sort of the face along with Canelo of what they do, but he's not exclusively tied with them. It was sort of a smart loophole that Eddie Hearn tied in there. So for the idea of if a Wilder Joshua super Bowl became so big, they could make it happen from everyone, I asked from everyone using logic here, the male and female parts still don't come together, and that means the Zone who came on the board to kill pay per view and become this streaming force. How are they going to join up with a pay per view provider. You know, it's different when HBO and Showtime came together for MAYMAC or for Maypak. It's different when Fox and ESPN just came together for this fight. These are two companies that do pay per view. The Zone doesn't do that. So for Fury Joshua to happen next, well, first of all, Wilder would have to say no. And if while they're saying no to this, then I think you have to have major questions if he's continue in his career because that would be such a disastrous one loss that I mean, that's not who wild there is. I'm saying just on Wilder's reputation and his personality. He's taking this fight, but you would need that fight to be refused. And then personally, I think you would need Anthony Joshua to basically say, hey, Jzone had a good run, but I got to go over there to mainstream pay per view again.

So I know you tried to kill pay per view.

I got to go over here to mainstream pay per view and we got to make this happen.

Give me a give the listeners here and the viewers give us a plausible scenario of how it could happen. Talk to us about the mechanics of how you make a deal here.

It depends on the back room money situation. Okay, what we do know is that Deontay Wilder, what like last year, was offered one hundred and twenty million dollars deal from his own for four fights, guaranteed two of them against Joshua, the generational wealth he was talking about, and he turned that down. Some of that was to sort of be in control of his own career, Like what if he blew up and had the opportunity to make a fight like Fury or a third one like Fury, He wouldn't have that control the zone. Would he gave that up? So for it to happen, unless Anthony Joshua says sorry to his own I got to go make this money on pay per view, it feel it would have to be a two fight deal in which one fight would be on his own and a rematch would be on ESPN pay per viewer or whatever the setup was. I don't think you can unless his owne tomorrow says hey, guys. I know we tried to kill pay per view. I know we're trying to do this streaming thing, but this fight is so big it's gotta be regular pay per view, so we're going I don't think that happens.

How do you do a two fight deal? Though? I mean, yes, you can trigger a rematch, but like, what if the first fight is either so boring no one wants to see it or so deeply uncompetitive that no one wants to see a second one. You just do it anyway, because then the person who gets the second of those two fights of the person, the entity, whether it's the Zone or ESPN, who gets the second of those two fights is on the losing end of the deal automatically, depending how I guess.

Well, I guess would depend on the rev split, right, But still, you know, it's harder. It's a very difficult case. And certainly the wildcard is somebody like a Saudi Arabia who comes in. It's just like I've got a billion dollars for you guys to make this fight. That's the kind of thing where you can then go, okay, well, then the next work.

Figure it out.

The networks may not matter as much you know, it's all kind of gray.

But where should they put the ship? Fight should be in Wembley.

Yeah, it's the biggest fight in England English boxing history by Farish.

English boxing is hot.

Oh it's been hot for a few years now.

I mean, I mean they did, you know, George Groves and Carl Frots in front of eighty thousand.

Now you've got Now you've got and multiple weight classes, you've got real standout star attractions.

I mean, ideally, I guess it'd be there. But if it's there, then it's on at five in the afternoon on Saturday. But you know that's start of our East Coast bias here. Who really cares what time it's on, what day it is, what country it is, what planet it's on.

Just get it in front of us.

We need to see it.

Yeah, day it would be amazing. Just the same. Now, this brings all of us to a question about Deontay Wilder. So let's go there. Boy, that was a bad loss he took against Tyson Fury on Saturday. Now you were telling me before the show, because I did not hear. That's what I did, dissected that there is no burst ear drum.

Yeah, who's Kevin Iola reporting that it was just a two or three centimeter cut that led throughout the whole fight. Still no broken jaw, no broken ear drum, fair enough, which is.

Good to hear because those are much more difficult injuries to get over. But nevertheless, he appeared to have equilibrium issues after getting dropped in that third round from that point forward, whether it was an ear drum not or something else, the question is where he goes from here, So let's talk about that. You're saying he probably should and will invoke the rematch clause. Now, whether he will I.

Suspect he should is an interesting thing.

Okay, Well, let me let me make this point then, because whether he will or whether he won't, I get the idea that there is a lot of growth that is possible even at his advanced age. He's actually older than Fury still in terms of the game plan he could employ, in terms of some I haven't said that.

Remember we said last week.

He didn't have to change a whole lot to fight the Fury that I thought he was gonna fight at some things in and he did go to the body. You did see some faints. It's just that Fury took it all the way. But here's my point, I don't know if the folks around him are really best situated to get him where he needs to go. Brian, First of all, you had his head trainer, whether he was doing it for effect or not, saying I don't think that they should have thrown the towel. You, you are out of your mind.

If he's if he's not just trying to get Deonta's back, almost to just say, look, I Deontay, I got your back.

You know they shouldn't have thrown at your tough all.

That's if it's really that he believes that. But even if you do that, Brian, I'm sitting here with my jaw dropped. I'm a literally here. He took a beating.

Fine, you take your guys back in the media and then privately you tell them something different. Okay, I understand the strategy. You're still spreading cancerous ideas. And the guy who threw the towel, forgive me his name, Mark Breley, did that? Did he saved Tyson? He saved Deontay Wilder. He was the adult in the court savage beating. So I give him all the c.

And people have to wake up This isn't the kind of potential beating head he hung on for another three four rounds. This isn't the kind of beating that we're just like, oh, I don't know if he's ever going to be the same, filtering beat. This is like a life altering, life ending type thing, because pillow fisted or not Tyson Firry six nine, two seventy three. And I mean this is you know.

And when he was against the ropes where you're just absorbing, I mean, that wasn't ropodope. That was just rope.

But I do want to just bring up one thing.

Equilibrium shots consistently, just like a body shot that the liver can end to fight at any point. Equilibrium shots change people. They're never the same. In the middle of the fight, Andy Urus Junior, the big shot that hurt Anthony Joshua round three was an equilibrium shot. He was dizzy, he couldn't get his legs back under him. The rest of the time. People remember Miguel Coto Sergio Martinez. I know there were a million knockdowns in that fight, and Sergio had a bad knee.

But that first shot was equilibrium. He was never the same.

I tend to believe here that as much as Deontaey did get whitewashed start to finish, that equilibrium shot completely changed the fight.

Fair enough, But even before that he was getting murked. So let's just be clear about that. But this is my point. We saw that Fury. You could make a case. Obviously we thought he did win the first time out, but I thought it was so frankly ballsy to go and then change your trainer and not just changed the trainer, changed the mindset. I'm gonna be the bully, change the tactics, change the strategy, change everything, and it paid huge dividends. I'm gonna say this, Deontay Wilder cannot win against Tyson Fury in all likelihood. If he doesn't. Yes, I know he's got a nuclear bomb in his right hand, didn't do him fuck all good on Saturday Night against this Tyson Fury. And yes, if they fought one hundred times, maybe he'd find a way to land it. But in all likelihood, this is the thing. Everyone's like, Oh, we've always known about Deontay's weakness, is right, but they got to live behind the reality of a right hand. What happens when this is taken away well, now the bad parts about his boxing get magnified and he was made to pay for them. Brian Campbell. And I'm telling you that here's the other part about this. If I can look at what little old me, nobody can look at what Tyson Fury was doing and finding ways to have an effect again before the Equilibrium shot on Deontay Wilder. Dude, he said a bit of a blueprint here. That's the big takeaway for me. Deontay Wilder got audited and Tyson Fury. I'm not saying, listen to me. I know what you're gonna say. Not every other boxer is Tyson Fury.

Not only that, I'm going to say, there's only what I've said it the whole build up. There's one man who is able to do what happened on sem okay fair enough, because who else is six ' nine with that brain, with that heart.

He is the king and the king alone. I will not argue with that. What I'm telling you is any good boxer and a good boxing trainer is going to look at that and say, well, maybe we can't take that. My guy can't do that, But he can't do that, and he can do that, and maybe they'll even win. But I'm telling you theret that is Deontay Wilder. If he doesn't make changes, if it's just that same one, he just got a lot less dangerous.

Yeah, there's these out of potential crossroads here, you know, being I know heavyweights aged late. I know he didn't start fighting util he's nineteen. I know he's what thirty four, But this potentially is a crossroads. Fighter of our us still super elite or did this fight forever change you? You still don't know the Wilder I'd never lost before, and the only quasi lost that the draw.

He barely took any damage.

So you don't know on any fighter, Luke, how they bounce back mentally from getting absolutely devastated. I'm not willing to count Deontay Wilder out yet because I mean, if you could have one attribute in that situation, you take his power really any of anything else.

But answer this for me, just a question. Do you think that his trainers and the people around him have just basically said, look, you've got game changing power, we're not really going to do much with the rest of this. Fair to say that rather than saying you've got game changing power and we still need to build things up.

It's fair to say that in hindsight from what we just saw.

But I do think while there has been underrated in terms of his fight IQ and set up, what j D's and Mark Brielan have done a great job through the years is basically do what kind of what you just said. Okay, we know he's awkward, we know we can't reteach him. I mean, look, he came to the sport at nineteen. People like Tyson Fury who are sort of the rare ones, you know, like of Floyd Mayweather, when they're two, three, four years old, they know they're going to be a fighter, right, they're already. It's they you know, they grow up in it. It's different. You're never gonna make Deontay Wilder a perfect boxer. But is it fair enough to say there were maybe potential levels of growth that just didn't happen, that maybe they send I mean, it's easy to say that now in hindsight. I wouldn't be against if he changed up teams completely. And I don't say that as a panic move. Oh you lost suddenly, so let's kick these guys to the curb. Maybe add in a new influence. How many times have we seen that? How many times have we seen great fighters? There's certain great fighters like an Oscar de la Hoya who regularly sought out different trainers and switched and found different grooves. Miguel Coto is another one who really kind of was defensive for a few years with Pedro Diaz, then found for Freddie Roach and found to be offensive again and was just happy with that. You may find somebody who just gets it and can and can and can speak to Deonta a certain way and get a different side out of him. He's still only thirty four heavy waits age light. I don't feel like we have to start saying, oh, the third fights of cash out.

I don't. I don't think we're there yet. I don't think by any mean the third.

Fight is not a cash out, provided he makes changes, provided he does the same thing that got him there on Saturday night.

You like his chances because I sure as helped. I wouldn't predict him that was win the third fight, But.

I'm not going was master Yoda versus Luke Skywalker? That was not.

I've been on the Tyson Fury train from day one. Ish, Okay, you don't have to teach me that. My point is, I also know who Deontay Wilder is. And let's say we have a third fight. Okay, let's say Tyson Fury is having big time success early, but not the kind of like equilibrium shot damage knocked him down type of success. Deontay Wilder's still going to be in that fight.

Punch did not land by accident. The punch landed by virtue of the very specific strategy and tactical approach.

He was going to get bombed on the guy on the show who said that the knockout could happen, I believe that fair enough.

I'll give you all the credit of w but I'm not dismissing Jontay Walter. I'm dismissing Jontay Wilder provided he doesn't make changes. If he makes the changes, I'm absolutely willing to say, let's give this guy a second chance, or let's see what he can do.

He's got to commit to that job.

If he just stays in Tuscaloosa and doesn't bring somebody in or go someplace else, I don't know why. What would give you confidence that, oh yes, he's got game altering power.

Dude.

He landed nine punches over the course of three rounds on Tyson Fury. It didn't do anything.

While that's true, the proof is in the putting, as the Great Floyd would say, And the putting tells you that every single person not named Tyson Fury that's gone in there with this psychopath has finished looking up at the stars. And oh yeah, Fury got dropped twice in the first one as well.

So hanging out of this.

I'm not I'm not saying. Here's here's the thing. Remember Ronda Ross after she lost to Holly Holm.

No, I don't.

I really don't remember that when she didn't make any change. The blame is this teacher, by the way, to get it, I had to get it?

Where did you get it?

What a throwback?

All right?

Where'd you get it?

A nice online deal for four ninety five?

Couldn't pass? You love these? Sure, it's no one want. The point being is if you have these like really bad losses where you kind of get audited, it happens where guys can go back and make changes and do something special about it. Right, Tyson Fury didn't get audited in the first five, but the fact that he got knocked down the way he did probably made him feel like he did or even though he probably took solace in getting up off the canvas and he smartly Again I questioned it, but he was right in the end, and credit to him. I think Deontay Waller used to have a look in the mirror and say, how am I gonna get past what happened?

Doing the same old shit is.

Not the answer. It's just not the answer ever, especially against that guy. Now, maybe he could fight Anthony Joshua down the road, and it's fine.

I think the same old shit, right, maybe's Anthony Joshua. That's right, So maybe the answer is it's just that guy.

But if you're gonna exercise that rubber match clause and take the third one right away, and you're gonna not do anything different other than take two l's back to back after the draw, well, he had the two.

Wins in Matori, Well, let's go rumble in the jumble comparison, to be honest with their George Foreman never the same in that early incarnation of him. After that lost Muhamada Ali, Yeah, got into a couple of wars after that. Then he lost to Fraser in the rematch and he went away from the sport. I know he had that reckuless comeback, but that's that's still in play. It's not that that couldn't happen. But here's one thing I said leading into this fight. A lot of people ask me, you know, what's the What's the one key no one's talking about that can tell us that this is gonna be a great fight.

The mental toughness of both. It is through the roof Tyson.

Fury's on a different level of mental toughness in terms of strategy, mixed with heart, mixed with all that. But Deontay Wilder was willing to go until until he was not cold, and I have seen that in his career, just sort of a will that brings him out. So I'm saying that I think that will will overcome some of the things that were lost in this fight. Yes, to your point. Can we get somebody else in there? Can we get another voice in there? Can we re examine what's going on? Can we maybe take the third fight later in the year and really take some time.

He has thirty days to exercise the rubber match clause if he wants to exercise it, and then give himself some time to get better. To have a real different approach and really work on some things. I think that's that. Then I'll be like, Okay, let's see what Deontay's got. But just staying in Tusca Looci doing the same old thing. Yeah, you can beat all the same old heavyweights. You're not gonna beat that guy.

And can we quickly just say a lot of people are writ in the column it's a trendy thing, but it's right.

Mark Brelan was the was the He was a real master.

I'm not I'm not exaggering. He was a hero that night, dude. You you I don't know if he saved Deontay's life per se, but he could have. He certainly, you know, I'll never forget, Like, what's what We'll move on from this? Give me one fight MMA or boxing where you saw someone take a savage beating and they were never the same afterwards, Krimisa trontok. A few of those huh, what's one fight where you were just like after that, they're just not the same.

About melt Taylor against uh, Julio says Erschavez one, I mean that was that was certainly a giant fall from grace for me.

A MMA it's the Rich Franklin David Luazo fight. David Lazo took five rounds of beating. His corner did not save him, and I don't think he was ever the same after that. He was still he could still beat decent guys. He's still a good martial artist and an important contributor to the martial arts community. He was not the same prize fighter after that.

I mean, there's been many examples, but yeah, all right, I'm with you, Luke.

What hell of? And I oh, last thing on this uh did you like their entrances? Jay was like, it took too long? Because of course Jay said that I got He's right, it did.

One other thing? Did Jay say today? Can we say that on the air. We can't say it on the air.

He was right that this part did take too long. But coming out in the throne, the women are carrying it.

This is how you how you win the casual fans.

This is to me. I thought it was I thought it was amazing, dude. People want to see boxing is when boxing is ridiculous, Sometimes it's ridiculous. But sometimes when boxing is ridiculous, it's fucking grand. That is great.

And did you hear Ja Diis had a quote though, where you were saying, while there's ring entrance gear, which by the way, was completely next level, there's rumors that cost like sixty thousand dollars to his eyes are turning red like.

It was the like Scepticon.

Yeah, there he is. That it was too heavy and it may have worn down his legs.

We also use that excuse, by the way, I remember Joe Son when he fought in the UFC would carry the big Cross. He would get to the cage and be like super winded. It's like, dude, maybe you don't carry lumber to the fun Yeah.

Remember they used to have this clumb named Michelle Pdeda who would do a dance routine on the way in and then and then guess out, Hey, Joe Son not a not a great human. After that, after that died I think he died. No, I think you're still alive. I think he got murdered in prison after that run on the Austin Powers movies.

As was it odd job or something?

Yeah, Jo.

He was a rapist.

Yeah, by the way, I didn't so.

Was Kevin Bacon.

And sleepers and fans filed appreciate that. You see how Wilder and Fury each had their own logos on their gloves. I was like, yeah, attention, Okay, let's move on now to some MMA stuff before our audience completely alienates us, we alienate them. So UFC Auckland was on Saturday before the big boxing fight, and in that main event. I know you saw it. I've not talked to you about it, so I don't say anything just yet. I'll go to you first on this one too, because I'm feeling generous. God damn it. You had Dan Hooker and Paul Felder absolutely empty the tank down there in Auckland, New Zealand. Dan Hooker takes we can only be called a controversial split decision before we talk about the scoring and everything else.

Do you really think it's controversial?

Let me finish. Let me just say this, because I think I.

Think we can find Do you have a co host credit in my yes?

I know I don't. We can find some unanimity here, dude. You we had two guys who are on great wind streaks and were outside that top five bubble, and they knew there was no way to get to that upper echelon that division if they didn't absolutely empty the tank against a well matched foe who had an indefatigable attitude against them, and they did it. Dude, I don't care who you think won or lost. You don't often see main events from guys in the words of your own Twitter bio do. They were daring to be great. They were giving every ounce of what they had and they tried and it doesn't work out for everybody. It's a zero sum game. There can only be one winner. Were you not? I was all inspired by humbled.

Humbled is the word.

Yeah. Those are two guys that are trying to be super elites, right, They're on the verge of being a leage, like you mentioned, and I was just considered like you got a jug and they were willing to pour that jug out like early, like midway through that fight. And to see Paul Felder have that fourth round when his corner when Duke gruffs is like, do it for your daughter and then come out and just explode and kind of seemingly like you turned that fight around on I mean, Luke, it's humbling.

It's why we watch.

It's why we watch the fact that they're I mean, they're already.

In the most dangerous deepest division one of the best periods of any division in UFC history, may maybe the best period ever in this lightweight division where it's all killers. To get to the next level, you got to go through a five round hillacious thriller like this to get there. But the moment for me was was Paul Feld's reaction afterwards, the moment that just touched my heart, where he's near tears and where he basically says like this might be it for me because you know what he's feeling on the inside. He's feeling that you know, I'm thirty five. Yeah, I've got this burgeoning second career as a as a broadcaster. Yeah, the great comedy made about his young young child being four years old. These you know, never around. But it's the idea that he's daring to be great. He knows how great he can be, and yet he may have found out and this is harsh, but this is reality that he's just short of the super elite that by emptying everything he has and being able to walk through hell against a guy and hooker who might be a title contender or champion one day, he's shown you some really bright things that it just wasn't good enough and that like, in that moment, you.

Know what he's feeling.

And it's just heartbreaking because every step I have met against Paul Felder thought, man, he's a tough out, but he's not that. And I sort of said that heading into this fight and it was just barely proven true. And that's how close sometimes, Luke, you come to being a champion or being an elite or being a gatekeeper and all that. And Paul Felder gave every ounce. I mean, you saw the shape he came in for this fight. This was his super Bowl, this was his sort of life altering career crossroads moment, and dude, he was great and it wasn't good enough. And if he does walk away, I would get it. I would be like, I don't think he will.

I think he'll you know, his coach messaged me and told me he's not going to.

Yeah, I don't think you will, because when you're still that good, there's still pay days to make, there's still things you can do. And by the way, I'm not saying he can't come back and win big ones, but you did feel for him in that moment, like he just MAXs himself out right.

I mean, if you give everything you have and it's not enough. You begin to have some real existential questions at that point. That being said, how did you score it three.

Rounds to two?

I gave the first three to Hooker. I felt fairly confidently. I mean, you can make a case, and I thought did not give Hooker the fifth.

I felt just as strong that I gave fell to the last two.

Interesting. I gave it three to two Felder, And the difference for me is that I thought the fifth rounds a little hard to score because he doesn't do much with the takedown, but he holds it for like a solid minute plus, which to me kind of counts a little bit.

It's something.

But I thought that the more damaging strikes for the most part, came from Felder, especially.

I did in four and five.

His right hook was landing. I think it was the right or left. Got to go back and watch, but there was a hook he kept landing the end of his combinations left over, yeah, over and over and over again. It was just bludgeoning. Yeah. Dan. Hooker's face on that same side was like it was funny between his Kiwi accent and then his face being swolen.

I couldn't understand a word he said, I didn't know what language he almost showed his jobs to.

Yeah, I know you were not, but that was Nevertheless, though, I just thought over all the more punishing damage popping his head back with the jabs, for example, I thought it came from Felder, but I recognize it's very difficult to score. It's not a robbery when it goes this close. It's just for me. Do we have that picture of them in the jay if you have it.

Oh, it's like Rocky Too. There's like the opening scene in Rocky Too.

The two guys in the look at that in the stretchers like that, and the gurney's You mean, this is what it's about, folks. These two guys in the toughest division. One can't see out of his eye. The other one's face looks like he got stung by a bee. They're all strapped up, and it's unbelievable.

Between this and between I'm sure people have seen the video of carolinakolevl Keevit, who lost and yeah, she's like two and six in her last eight and she got the crap beat out of her in that fight against the Chinese young fighter. But uh, it just rewakes you to realize what it takes. Here's what it takes to be at this level. I mean what they put them. I mean in a victory. I mean Dan Hooker was in a car wreck and and he's the winner, you know.

I mean, here's the point about this too, Like the covil Keevitch reality is this, her corner failed her. Let's just say it out loud. Her corner failed her because she wasn't competitive at any point. She couldn't see she was in no position to win. These guys were taking mountainous amounts of abuse, but every route was kind of close. Some are more clear than others to judge. But even down before that takedown happened in the fifth round where Hooker got it, you were saying to yourself, this could still go just about any way, so the punishment just has to kind of roll on.

It almost looked like Felder was closing in on a potential stop it, right, you No, like there wasn't. It was a couple of moments where Hooker.

Couldn't as a corner. You couldn't in good conscience stop it then, because it's still dramatically competitive, and yet in the end there has to be a loser. It breaks your heart, It really really does. But in the end, if you didn't have respect for Paul Felder or Dan Hooker before, I hope this is one of those cases where you get to the chance to wake up right.

I'm a damn Hooker guy.

Okay.

From the beginning, the first sort of I forgot.

The one I thought he would win. I think he'd win like this, the win that.

Sort of put him on the map.

Originally that was the win where I'm like, oh man, who is the guy in the Jim Milber one. We're sort of like, okay, maybe a future title contender. I still see that this was a blood and guts victory. But are we getting any nervous that two beatdowns now, the Barbosa loss and this one in which he won.

You can't have too many of those.

So he wants Gai Chee. I gotta tell you, I think it might. It's hard to know what to do at the top of lightweight because you got Dustin being like, hey, I want to fight al like Winter at one seventy. Now our guests are if we're lightweights and we fight at one seventy, that should still count for one to fifty five, but you don't really know what to do with Dustin. Nate's kind of floating out there. You don't really know what's gonna happen with him now. I guess Jorge has obviously at one seventy already got business with Kamara. We'll see later. But the point being is, could be even Tony's still on a collision course. Connor kind of floating out there. It's not really clear Dustin. Excuse me, Justin Gai Chee believes he's entitled to a title shot, but it's like, is he just gonna wait around? Is he gonna get it? Connor's gonna steal that if he wants it. So I'm not saying that if I'm managing Justin Gai Chee that I think that's the best fight, But I don't think it's the worst call. I actually kind of like that fight for Justin a little bit.

That's the best ballsy for Hooking to call it out, because here's the deal on Hooks, okayable, especially after that beat, you try to point fight Justin Gaigee, you could, you could lose your soul. You have to finish him. Elvis and Dustin Poirier showed us. You have to dig in and get dirty and get king of king, king of street combat, and just finish that man.

Hooker is typically a finished You never finish that guy.

That's going to be interesting to see. That's a tough ass test.

Yeah, and also it's not just about finishing. Justin Gatche, you had to be willing to take and able to take an enormous amount of abuse.

Which he is.

But that's where the fear comes in of how many.

Rows are two of these that have been kind of tough, all right? And then last but not least, let's just give a shout out to an incredibly impressive lady from UFC Auckland. How about Angela Hill. Angela Hill has fought six times in eleven months, going four and two. I think it's a twenty plus day span between her last fight and then this one. Winning this one against Loma Luke Bunmi, who a lot of folks don't know, very talented tie fighter who sort of transitioned over to m man before this. Just given Hannah Seiphers the beat down. Oh yeah, I gotta tell you, I am pretty amazed by this, beyond impressed. Now the question is like how impressive is it shouts to Sean al Shaddy over the athletic He put together a list of other fighters who either around or inside of a calendar year, have put together six fights. Chris Leban is one of them. Toago Santos is another one that they went five and one in that range. There's some other ones as well. The only one who went six and oh, could you guess John Jones in six fights in uh that's a short period of time. Yeah, no, as Don Seroni. Oh and he got wins over Eddie Alvarez, and he fought on fifteen days notice. After his last fight, he fought Benson Henderson and got that win as well. So that's like the best one. But that was actually technically a bit of a longer time span than what Angela Hill has done. Technically, it is possible she could become, in the modern era, the first fighter to win seven fights in twelve months. Here's what stands out to me, to fight seven times in twelve months. Here's what stands out to me about this. Brian she won four, she lost two. Okay, this is what I love about it. I love she. She all give her credit. She one time I was talking about on Twitter I was talking about Don Cerroni's and you know, just crazy like one year four fights, next year four fights, next year, five fights, next year, five fights, this amazing schedule. And she said to me, I'll never forget this on Twitter. It's public. You know. If we got offered fights like that, There's a lot of fighters who could do that. And I don't think every fighter is Donald Serrony. But credit to her, she was actually right. She can actually do that. Two things. One, some fighters operate better on a quicker schedule. Clearly I think she is one of them. Number Two, dude, she is now her next fight will be I think her twentieth professional fight. She is finally coming into her own. She was having to fight I think at her fourth fight like Rose Noma Unis or.

That original class of the strawweight twenty fourteen tough.

That's right, and she you didn't get a clear sense of exactly how good she was, and she stumbled along the way.

I mean, let's be honest, she was a gatekeeper for a while, sort of like win one, lose two, to win two, lose one, and just sort of back and forth.

The standout to me is that I think she operates better on a quicker schedule. I'm not saying six every year, but certainly a little bit more of a competitive frequency. And secondly, I think she's finally coming into her own I think you're finally seeing that people her.

She is a like instant fan favorite at any turn. Maybe it's the cosplay thing, I'm not really sure. But to be able to reach thirty five for female fighters, you don't You don't see a lot of Holly Holmes who can stay elite late into their thirties. And for her to now be just kind of just figuring out, we're seeing somebody like Covil Keavish at thirty four who seems the same division, seems done.

This is impressive, certainly is and.

And she was in like hell of shape. I don't know if you if you caught.

That, yeah, don't. And then she's traveling. She's not just doing it in her hometown, She's going all over the world and still getting pretty.

Impressive of a DC thing.

Is this is this A isn't she a DC?

She is?

Yeah, she's DC as well. She also came to our DC symposium, so that was very nice fortune. Fir A smart lady. Okay, with that, in mind, Cob or.

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I say, Cobb. That's somebody I call my other producer. I'm tired with that in mind. Yeah. Sorry, it's time where you donks get to write us questions as time for dms from donks. Jesus Christ, I'm tired. All right, there you have, we have animation and everything. All right there, Brian.

Camp split screen here, Luke, all right, split screen here.

This one go to you first from Boxing Dot Classics. What do you think of the TBC guys all predicting Wilder to win, then to say afterwards they thought Fury was gonna win. Now, I'm not sure what he's talking about about. I guess the ESPN broad or the pay per view broadcast.

I'm not sure specifically who he's talking about. I mean, it's not a surprise to me that guys in the same promotion would support each other. I mean, I do a podcast every week with Rashad Evans. He always picks his teammates or xtuallymates to win.

It's just sort of a.

Thing that happens, and they're switching it back afterwards. Can be a little bit hairy, But I don't know specifically who he's talking about.

Have you gone back and watched the fights after the fact on the broadcast.

I have not yet.

I'll be curious to go to see what you thought about the broadcast. It was Joe at All Star Game, right, it was Joe Tessitore, and it was andre Ward, and it was Lennox Lewis. The stand up for me was andre Ward. He was great.

He's getting better. He's not only great, he's getting better every time.

And obviously you know he's got great analysis, but his broadcast delivery is beginning to have just the right amount of enthusiasm behind it.

I tried to talk him into fighting Canelo and he turned me down.

Oh yeah, but Lennox Lewis, I don't like on the Fox broad cast.

We can just be honest about this.

Can't we lose?

He's not good, He's never been good. He here's the difference, though. You should listen to this one. But because Ward was speaking and they're essentially covering the same beat by virtue of the editing, that happened to the overall volume of commentating he did. He was actually better this time. And I think Joe Tessa towards one of those guys. Either you like him or you don't.

I like him smooth he is, so I've worked with him.

Guess he was hating on him.

Jay. If we were allowed to say the things that Jay has hated on today, this calendar day, the amount of beautiful women that Jay's just hated on, Oh yeah, I mean I can't go public with that.

Jays like this ten out of ten is a zero.

I'm like, Okay, Luckily we have standards that morning combat like death Row. We're not gonna put the producer in the videos dancing around. I mean, this guy's trying to get on our show.

Thank you, sud night. All right, let's go to at the dot Jason dot Moore, what did you make of Wilder pacing for over an hour in the back. I've often heard how fighters have that moment right before walkout where they know if they trained hard or not to win to lose a fight. I don't really buy this at all. I think that I, oh, this is why he lost. I think that he was focused, He wasn't pacing super hard. He to me, if he lacked energy in the fight, there were much more identifiable reasons for that. Now, yes, it was in strong contrast to Test and Fury, who was all smiles and giggling and look he was getting ready for a wedding. For crying out loud.

I mean, dude, can we just stop on that for a second. Like I was trying to talk before about I think Tyson Fury's mental toughness is like all time. It's legendary, right, It's out of this world. But like he always says, you know, I'm a fighting man. I come from generations of bare knuckle Like a fight to me is something I get excited about. Like how loose he is, it's almost insane, Luke, Like, did you ever see that video that floated around that he took like three hours before the Clitch Goo fight.

He was like dancing and doing.

Karaoke and like doing inappropriate grinding and stuff and just being like, you know, like that was a fight. Everybody thought he was gonna be walking in there and getting knocked out. It's wild I do wish and we're probably gonna get it when Deontay Wilder goes public. But you know, he didn't do the postwit press conference because he was in the hospital. But him mentioning during the entering interview the personal problems I'm not saying this to build this as an excuse. I'm just interested because something about it just didn't seem like him on this night, aside from just getting handled, aside from just going to be the reason I don't buy it. I don't know what it is, but I'm interested to see if it's something, because every other fight, except for the first Fury fight, we've seen, while they're at his absolute menacing best, never getting down, poises there can lose eight rounds against Lewis Ortiz and still be happy, excited, confident, and poised.

To bring the boom.

The first Fury fight, he was very honest afterwards about how he tried too hard for the knockout. He was nervous, he froze a little bit, and you know from the from the luster of the event, I wonder if there was something about Fury if you're just facing a guy who you know has your number, is that the thing that maybe I don't buy that rattle.

And look at his strategy early in the first and second rounds, you could tell he was trying to implement what I thought was going to be a key part of his game plan, which were jabs to the body and his own feints, dude, we just you got to say it out loud. Fury took it away from him. Now, may he had some kind of injury that it was on his mind and he was trying to calm himself. But you got to remember every fighter is different. They all have their own customized strategy, their own customized prep. Something like to do long warm ups, some like to do short warm ups. Some like are very happy, some are very dour. Brandon Vera, even in his prime before the whole fall off, I know that he used to vomit right before walk out. It would actually make commission members nervous.

You usually drop a deuce before the show.

I'm dropping a deuce right now on my pants. But the point being is everyone is a little bit different. Everyone's got their own situation. So maybe there was something to it. I'm not saying that there's not. I just to me, it's like, I don't know why you can't just say what it was. He just got wallopped by a better boxer and that's the end of it.

That's fair, all right. I'm trying to do forensics here, all.

Right, man, let's go to Mporter four forty should I'll pitch this one to you, should Wilder work with Joshua Fabia to improve his defense?

I mean, should he?

Should he train for the trilogy with tarot cards?

Is that what you're saying?

Luke?

His question?

No, no, no, no.

Did you hear my interview?

I tried to hear your Well, no, that's a that's a false narrative, Luke. Okay, I was I'm gonna be honest with you. You Luke Thomas to host the show called Luke Thomas's Pissed. I thought it was ahead of its time, and I still think it would work today. I remember that you had the Manila folders and you were like, I hate Tom Brady and Brent Farv and here's why, and you just rip people.

It was great. What happened?

I quit it actually so I can focus on other things.

All right, don't quit this job.

What did you do? You have any comment about the whole Fabia thing.

The guy's a clown, dude, The guy is a clown. Okay. I think you nailed it from the idea of he gave Diego confidence at a point and a very tender point in his career. Okay. And sometimes yes, we cling to people who that's why yes, men are invented. We cling to people who sort of fill the doubts that we have in ourselves. Our spouses in some way sort of fill the gaps of what we're missing as people. Right, that's why it works. Okay, I'm getting with you.

Does this mean that you're an emotionally needy man who leans on his wife for motherly help?

Wow? Wow, that was very Freudian of you. No, No, that does not mean that.

I'm just asking. I don't know the answer.

I don't really balance check books to well, you know, you know.

It's like a vultron makes a greater hole.

Bubber ninety seven says Thoughts on woman having a possible advantage in grappling due to the fact that they can wear a full shirt that's up your alley look here. Yeah, well it's not a possible advantage. It's an absolute advantage. But the thing is, it's the first it's not a shirt, it's a rash guard. There's a difference.

I know, he's like, whoa.

It's like it's like Conan say, thoughts on, woman have advantage.

Who's talking about I married an next murder?

I know you missed that.

Yeah, it's an absolute advantage, But it just depends on how you use it. Like uh Roxanmota Fairy wears one, Laura Murphy wears one.

But if the fight is Juliana, yeah, you wore one.

But it's like if you fight and he mostly just striking, even if you're in the fifty fifty four of the clinch, it's probably not that big a deal to me. It's a bigger deal when you're on top and you're trying to control an opponent and grap situations, or if you have the back and you're trying to prevent them, you're one of the keys to maintaining back control is symmetry between your shoulders and theirs, and to the extent that that provides uh friction and that helps you maintain the back. Yet it is an advantage, you know, Am I in a position to be like women should just wear bikinis to fight. I don't.

When Rowsey were just that bra against Carmush, she almost got face cranked because she kept trying to pull it up.

Aren't they Yeah? But also her goods almost fell out of their clothing. I didn't go there, No, But it's a real thing like here that the point is some women wear the rash guard because they don't trust the normal athletic apparel to protect them. And I'm like, that's the case. What you're supposed to say, you know you almost want to I think the good is the good. Uh, the good middle ground is the one that's like the tank top so it doesn't cover the shoulders and like this part of the top of the chest. But if you want your like it still hangs like a like a shirt A little bit.

When you man explain braziers in the functionality of man will be.

To another woman. You're not a woman. A right, that was a very man splaining way to He'll.

Call out the dictionary.

You're such a dick, you know, you just mean.

You got to use the words correctly. Hand me your wrench, you mean the mug. Sorry, it's not a wrench.

This is called a cup condom.

If you can dodge your wrench, you can dodge. I think, yes, Why does this from C and bari sean dude, how do you pronounce this? C? I a n in Irish? How do you pronounce that?

Do you have that up I'm only an eighth Irish?

So do you have that up here? It is see and Barry. Have you ever seen that Sean? Is it Sean?

It's always probably Celtic.

For sewn Sean?

Why does Brian regret the whole? Tip to tip?

Yeah? What is this? I got a lot of d ms this weekend and people like told you regretting it?

Should I show them the text messages of you explicitly telling me you regret it?

All?

Right?

Here's the deal, Okay, I inadvertently very gremlin like, right, very very much like Gremlin's want. I invertently started a revolution by bringing to light these regional uh pro can we get the shot these these sorry, let me figure this out here, These regional Polish MMA superstars behind me, come to find out and I forgot the guy's name, but somebody slid my DMS to help me decode this. These are two Slovakian kickboxers sloven I thought they were. This is this is uh Slovakia, Slovenia. There's there's Slovakia and there's Slovenia. They're two different countries. This is Slovakia.

I thought I thought there were Slovenian you know.

Tomato Tomato Anyway, I'm now following Trump, I'm now following both on Instagram and.

We're we're close. We're close.

Okay, are you guys tip to tip close? No?

Stop that. But the point of this is, does this guy like childish banter and locker room jokes? Yes? But do I want you guys to fill my m with actual dongs? No?

No, I live and die by the rule of.

Perfect.

You know, do I want.

People to comment on my you know, my my breakdown on CBS Sports h Q on YouTube of the of the Fiery Fight.

It's got like three point seven million, you.

Know, all these comments like wow, never saw Brian do a breakdown without bringing up cock. It's like, well, yeah, that's that's that's That's really not what I'm trying to do it.

I've been waiting for it.

So I don't mean to be a sea blocker on my own movement here, but there's a time and a place. You know, have you seen the ship? You'll see that ship.

I can please keep sending Brian your dick picks.

No, No, I mean the tattoos that people send me of of phallic fall the fallacies, the phallic nature of it. I'm not in it for that, Okay. I like I like to have a good laugh you know what I'm saying.

Send.

But then you got Luke going on his live shows going. You know, Brian just goes in a locker room. He's just looking for dicks. You know.

It's like, well not really definitely the straightest dick inspector in the world.

Yeah. See, this is what I think I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to shut this thing down.

But you go into the locker room, you just look, you know, you have a you know, you know have some chemists have like the periodic table of elements. You've got the periodic table of cock.

Right, the Slovakian heroes, we're gonna have them on. We're gonna have them talking about it. Okay, thank you.

Certain dicks do this when they're there, you know. Okay, that's you, all right. So that's up for our dms. By the way, folks always ask how to do that Good Morning combat on Sundays, And then as we put up a post on Instagram and leave a comment there, don't shoot me a DM because it's gonna get deleted. With that in mind, it is the time for Brian to be Brian.

Oh, it's that time already, all right, take it away. Brian, have you seen this ship is up next? As you know, there it is. We scour the globe for the best, the good, the bad, the worst, the ugly in combat sports and beyond. I'm liking it except for the ish.

On the eye.

I don't like that. Can we can we remove that pressure? Right there?

Little gross? Little gross?

All right, all right, we need this TV over a little more.

Right here we go Number one ufc Auckland. This fellow Brad Riddell, he had a sensational split decision win over Mago bed Mustayev.

No drinking a beer, not out of your shoes.

And look at him going out to the crowd and one time in that thing. Respect on that or what?

Yeah? Big time can't to say I think the shoey is so played out, it's.

So played out in gross.

But but we didn't get to talk about his performance. He's impressive, dude, He looked awesome. Everyone from this freaking gym looks like a future champion.

Can we say this honestly, and I'm being dead serious for just a second or you can get back to being silly in just a moment. Has City Kickboxing for a like a non huge gym like it doesn't have like eight ten number of guys. Yeah, have they had the best year of any gym in mma evry?

I mean, I want to I want to know what's what's in the water. I want to know what they're what they're doing to each other. I want to know what. Yeah, let's let's find out. Let's do it exposing you and I will fly down there.

Look right, you can go to the locker room. All go on the mats.

All right, here we go.

Hey, shout out to Ridell who looks great. Also at UFC Awkla in this weekend. Did you see Priscilla? I'm told Ketchuera catch Weera. She once got set to hell by chef Chenko. She returned the favorite. This is the fastest finish in UFC uh women's history, No, UFC women's flyway history, right against SHANEA. Dobson. That uppercut Wow Luke Wow, Yeah it was nice. Chin Checker.

Still not convinced about her UFC potential, but.

I'm enjoying this on a loop though.

I mean, look at this, so I think Dobson is another DC native.

All right, all right, well, hey we're gonna transfer from etiquette inside the cage to plane etiquette. We all hate flying, Luke, would you accept this if you were sitting behind this guy?

No? Oh god, dude, Why do people feel entitled to take their fucking shoes off?

Okay, I I take my shoes off. I don't usually wear socks, but I I've gone bare socks, you know.

I like I like to uh, I like to let them breathe.

Alright, But but there's a difference, Luke, I'm not gonna be like, are you a.

Fucking serial killer who doesn't wear socks?

You know?

I mean you've never worn like low sneakers without socks, or you've never worn No, I don't murder children in their sleep. What kind of a question is that?

Uh?

In the winter, I wear socks, but I'm not wearing sucks right now. Look, I'm sorry, it's it's just what it is. What it is.

Wait, let me get it straight.

That is true.

When you go through T s A, you're walking bare through through the middle detection.

I have done that, which is not a good thing because I've got a really gross it's all black and.

You are a fucking charcolodyite?

You are what what are you?

Look?

Do you know how dirty planes are? Anyway, what's what's the difference?

Yeah, you know what, why don't you just squat?

But I'm okay, okay, So me taking off my slip on sneaker like like like dad shoes like vans whatever, and then just having bare feet under the chair.

That's one thing.

This this insert dictionary word that means creating something. This Brian Campbell, it's just like scrolling like, oh what am I gonna watch?

Air?

Am I gonna watch?

Yeah? I mean this is you gotta tell the stewardess at some point what the is along with you discuss. I would say this though, I think if, for example, pregnant women on flights should be able to take her shoes off, I.

Think can they can they just rope and and uh yeah.

Of course they got to feed their fucking kids. Don't be weird about breastfeeding. But you, you, you absolute child molester, should not be taking your shoes off with no socks.

But it's under the chair in front of me. I got, it's not your living room. Act like dude, you are don't What are you do you have? Do you live with animals?

Do you have dogs?

I have two dogs and two cats, I mean and two kids. Uh, one wife though, and two.

Bars and I got bees on my d's like I'm shod go to bars.

Look, the point being is, well, can we get some kind of reference there?

It's from the DJ DJ clue. The point being is if you take your shoes off on a plane, I'm side eyeing you. If you take your shoes off on a plane and you got no socks, you deserve to be thrown out of the plane.

So also I drive if I'm not wearing socks, I drive barefoot, like give mean, like Fred Flintstone, like your feet on the ground, with my feet on the petals, I feel like I have more direct control if I'm going just skin on, skin off.

Can't you just wear like those vibrum five finger things?

Look socks are a lot like condom Remember how much condoms used to cost.

Back in the day.

I don't know what you're using. It's not like condoms.

It's half baked.

That's half baked.

Sorry, can we get somebody working the nineties meter who was born at least like before nineteen eighty seven?

Let me come on, Jay, it is Jay.

Look at that, dude, I think not wearing shoes on a plane, you are an absolute creating.

All right, Hey, what Luke? The only thing Luke loves about this segment is when animals kill people. Let's throw it up here. There's a leopard on the loose in this European village, and look.

At this thing.

Just take people out. I hope this doesn't turn into faces of death. Can remember a time we couldn't show that a bro that guy with the snake getting choked to death. This leopard Europe. I don't know where this is, Luke. I'm gonna guess Europe. Maybe it's Slovenia or Slovakia. But this leopard just cleaning house, Luke. I've never seen so many people run from Pushy before you.

Wow, yeah you can. You can miss me with the animal abuse.

I don't think it's animal abuse. I think I said, look at that takedown right there. Wow, all right, all right, I mean yeah, I'm sorry.

Look, I'm sorry.

This this is today's segment, not moving you. Hey, Belatore had two cards this weekend, A little bit weird ship. Did you see Ricky Bendejas catch the kick and just take this dude out here?

Hold this for a second, that he's all bitter.

King Mo posting that shout out to King Moo, goes with the kick, the guy catches it and then a little little for him.

Look at that beating the drum?

Are we seeing that?

Catching a kick is? It's just lowering your card, right, it's bringing down your hands.

Well look, hold on, let's see. Let's see catches it. Oh you know what?

Look at this painting. He's painting.

But you see how high he is on the and then when you catch he's right aro on the knee versus right around the ankle.

It's like he could have just stucked and slapped him out right. Yeah, it's borderline. Right.

Hey, did you know?

Did you know that Kevin Lee has a brother named Keith who's made his Bellotour debut. Look at this knee welcome geez? Did you see the neck? Just all wow? Borderline decapitation?

This this was it was this seawn bunching did this to? Oh? That is brutal?

Sorry, random guy in black shorts, you've been sent to hell? Yes, all right, luke. Have you ever heard of former UFC fighter abdul Kareem at Alov aka the Chechen Lion?

Yeah, he fights for your Oh.

This is his second pro boxing bout and he just sent Ibrahim Lebarn to the deep dark depths of.

I believe this is one of rams On Kadirov's guys.

So it's actually Kaderov's guy who trains Kaderov's sons and acts like an uncle to them.

Good job giving that guy a platform.

Were you a big fan of his UFC career?

No? No, he's a talented fighter, but pretty good knockout here, right, that's.

Right, left hook to finish the combo.

Yeah, that's right. Hey, let's see some ash crack. There was sumo wrestling over the weekend. Luke Curtis Blades and Rumbel John.

What is going on here?

You know what?

I actually like this a little a little sumo.

You're an ass man, Yeah, I can see that.

I like how there's no way you can take this seriously.

I mean, it's it's two, it's twenty twenty. Can we can we put on a full pair of granny panties? Or could we have to go with the UH with the thong?

I like that these UH professional grappling organizations are experimenting a little.

Bit with with us seeing this guy's cocking balls. That's that's that's not an experimentation.

You're bitter than his cocking balls didn't fall out, so you can, you know, just sit there and gawk at it. You were like, you know what sucked about this sumo wrestling match, the lack of visible game.

The Blades won, all right, yeah he did Razor Blades.

Yeah.

Can we see Rumble Johnson back as a heavyweight? Can we please se John Jones Rumble.

Johns hold up on that.

I don't know, I don't know, but uh, this man's gonna gonna hurt somebody really bad.

Yeah, y, all right, all right, let's.

Roll on from here.

Uh shout out to this teacher on the playground, very Billy Madison, Like watch this killer crossover. Oh god, he just just broke that kid's ankle and a splean.

I think at let's see, sure did dude, that's what Tyson Fury did.

I have sons, they're twelve, and we go in the driveway play hoops all the time. It is so easy to to cross over the kid, aggressive kids who would just go flying.

But this, he just did this kid wrong.

I mean, come on, if that's your kid and you're watching this for the first time, you gotta be pissed. Right.

Yeah, my daughter could just barely stand, so I don't quite understand the joy.

Oh Doyle rules indeed. Wow uh speaking of youth basketball fails, I want you to check out this next game right here. Look at a kid wearing a black shirt number two, see number two right there with the black shirt, and watch him. Oh no, he's going the wrong way. He's going the wrong way. Somebody stop him, you know what, he just wanted to free. Somebody stop him.

What is this coach doing?

But Tombo, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, that can't be legal, Luke, that poor kid. Oh I should have the wrong hoop one time? People still, Oh my god, that guy excited through his ship.

Luke, you know what you gotta like? Kids be kids, bro.

Who is unless it's that kid? And listen and listen to the coaches the dad. That's a rough move. That's a rough lesson to learn right there. It's like what Hay is coming out and punching that kid? You know?

No? All right, yeah, go ahead, next one.

Hey, let's go here. Let's go back to Wilder Fury. Something we haven't talked about a lot. What was Tyson Fury doing here? Okay, so people is gross. Okay, let's debate this for a second.

People said he I had people say he was licking the blood, and then I have people say no, no, he does this to all his fans. He just like, uh, like the Shakira thing at the super Bowl. Yeah, it's got nothing to do with blood licking. Where do you come down on this one?

I thought it was his way of saying, look, I'm a savage. I want to taste your blood, bj pen blood, you know, like exactly, That's what I thought it was. And if it's that, it's not that it's I think it's disgusting either way. But I get why so many people loved it because it's sort of this I'm the man, I just killed you type of thing. I don't need it.

Though, this is gross, this is not.

I gotta tell you, I kind of respect it a little bit.

I knew you would. I know, would you respect if he took a bite, if he even red cocked him?

And would you like me to get on the show and lie to you. I don't think you would. So I'm going to tell you the truth.

Have you ever hunted?

Yes?

Really?

Yeah?

You gotta talk about that with Joe.

Rogan, we might. Yes, I've been hunting. I've hunted deer, I've hunted turkey, I've hunted well, you know, doves and whatnot. That's your shooting.

I went to tail for a bunch of years, not successfully.

Why is that the least surprising.

Thing you've ever chasing the muff around.

Skin I've had to do the whole butchering of the deer and everything. I have to skin it the whole night.

Yeah, all right, Hey, speaking of that lick, it did remind me like you just jumped the gun there of the super Bowl, which was also pretty pretty.

Yeah, it was. Jay the Ultimate Contrarian, says he was not licking the blood, all right.

I don't think he touched it, no.

But the question is what was he intending to do. I don't know. I thought he was, Like I thought it was like if you're if you're beating up a guy and you lick his blood almost like whispering sweet nothings in his ear, you have absolutely emasculated him.

That's what actually just what william with your tongue, and.

Just because that is the precursor to banging. So I don't think that they wanted to do that it did.

It was reminiscent of can we roll up? From the super Bowl halftime show? Which is it's making me uncomfortable. I mean it's like it's hot, but it's also Weirdluke, is there a cultural thing that.

I'm crapping on the do? And then I take it back? Okay, I'm not.

I am not a racist because I didn't enjoy this halftime show, but I know who inspired Shakira? Can we play in the back? You ever see the nineties movie king Pin?

Luke? Yeah, one of my favorites.

All right, there's probably probably your favorite.

Scene, right you're late on the rent months and you know my favorite line is when this movie let me let me get both parts out? Let me get both parts out? Hey? What was Roy? Was his first name? Hey? Roy?

Can you get sick? Drinking piss? Even if it's your own? Do you ever see the closing credits? I don't think we have them right here? Jay?

Can you can you advance the film?

Please? Great movie?

What Harrelson so gross?

Because he banged He can't pay rent, so he bangs her. Remember he's at the toilet. She's like, it wasn't that bad?

Come on and She also says because of the way you banged her that she loosened got to sick of good crap because everything got loosened up. Oh, let me ask you better better, better, Fairly brother, Fairly brothers Farley, better of those two brothers movies Dumb and Dumber or Kingpin.

Kingpin Dumb Dumber is the most overrated funny movie of all time, and I know lightning just struck me and people are watching it.

I don't like it.

I mean, it's not that dumbd Dumber is hilarious, but it's so overrated. It's sort of like a dumble dumber is not overrated. It's a niche of slaptick comedy, it's a niche of the overall world of slaptic comedy. That just isn't my favorite. I'm more of a one liner Tommy boy type guy.

Well, I will I don't agree with that assessment. However, what I will say is I do think Kingpin is better. Kingkin is a great Keepin is super underrated.

Randy Quaid as the as the Amish guy is fantastic, And of course, uh what.

Was her name? Murray? No, no, no, who was the woman in there who was like the nineties eight girl.

Oh yeah, Vanessa Angel maybe is that her name? She was in Spies like us, She was the Rush, She was.

In Weird Science. Remember Weird Science.

It was in That was Kelly LeBrock. Sure before Steven Sagal got her and got her And you have the worst uppercut I've ever seen. There's video out there, but I hope it never hits let Brandon wise, don't show that video?

All right?

Max moy Tai, you ever heard of this league? They jump on here a lot. Check out this insane head kick k over. Oh my god, very reminiscent of of Rowsey Home Rousey again.

Wow, that was that's me waking up for the shift here on the show.

Yes, wow, anytime you can get on the outside of the shoulder, like is it four am?

Again?

Why look? Why don't you just move out of DC?

Come on, you want me to move pay me? Wow?

Wow?

Wow? Yeah?

Hold that yeah, hold that ship? All right? Hey, let's go to the gym Luke because you do a lot of time powerlifting. This is called jim etiqutt.

What do you think of this guy? Attic?

Is this acceptable to take a stick pick before you're set? Is he taking a dick pic before, probably put it, he probably DM me it afterwards. This is our these are our listeners right here by. This is why I got to stop this movement of of of dick trade. Okay, look, no more dick trading. Okay, I'm not into this, but that's lame. Come on, there's people watching. Yeah, good head movement. You're right, he looks at it, he goes, got it nailed.

All right.

You ever get asked to spot somebody and it's real awkward? Then did that guy ever mount you when he was spotting?

You don't do this. You do it from the back, Duke.

That's tip to tip. That ship is uh wait, but is that a is that?

Is that a sek who is a don't make don't make a fucking racist joke, don't do it?

Is that a SEAQ who is lifting there? It might be Jay?

Is that a turbine?

We're not really looking at the head so much as the head.

You know what I mean.

I'm warning you don't make a I didn't or I'm just saying that, you know, tip to tips not for everybody.

I would not want this out of my spot.

All right, Yeah, you do it from the back Also, here's the key to not asking people to spot you.

Uh.

I have over the ear headphones and I don't talk to anybody. I don't look to anybody.

You actually can't hear with those because I've been in public situations where I'm screaming.

Here's they're noise canceling on purpose. So I get the audio. It's pumping. Plus I get to cut out yugubron.

All right, we're gonna close on this clip. More gym ettiqutt to hit the road with this. What do you think is this acceptable?

Luke?

Every week?

Every week, I forget that your I mean arranged.

I mean here, hey, but look at it does have a functional purpose in the gym, right, I mean it does every week.

I forget that.

You're look. I didn't stage this. I'm not the director of this film. Okay, fucker, you featured it on the show. I didn't send this clip to Jay. Our listeners, our viewers sent this into me.

I mean, I can't avoid it.

I mean, what are they they both get into the action. Well, the movement, the movement that they're doing is legitimate.

Have you ever put small weights around?

You know? It's funny. It's actually a study that came out this week that shows that relative to deadlift, this is not as effective for glut activation, which would be my serious take on this. So ill, so I'll just say, dude, you need psychological counseling.

All right, Well this is this is Okay, the tip to tip movement is going to pause. We're gonna go pause on tip to tip. Okay, I'm going to get these litwacation.

Accident with your dick as a kid or something, what happened.

That's that's that's not acceptable, that's inappropriate.

I mean, that's just is it really? Just ask another man.

That you know, Yeah, you mean, look.

What you do every week.

So look there's people that cook meth. They never touched the stuff, all right, they just they just they're they're they're they're a pawn in the deadly drugs. Walter White, motherfucker.

Yes, I am in the dick trade. Unfortunately, I've gotten to power.

Does that make me?

I've gotten too powerful in the dick trade, Luke, and I need to get out.

Okay, I need to pull out of the dick trade.

Okay, at least let me be the gus ferring of dick or something.

I don't know, and when we get these Slovakian superheroes on Luke, that'll and.

The one tell what the plan is.

These I'm both of these gentlemen. They speak English. That's the plan.

By the way, he knows this because he checked.

I found.

The plan is. Look, we've never had what we don't have an anti fighter policy.

You have an anti anti fighter I haven't ever since John Don't sent you to hell.

You know, I just don't like I don't want to have artificial conversations. That's not what the show is about. And a lot of fighters, they're so used to having artificial conversations they can't do it otherwise. So to the extent that we can get a and who's going to have a real conversation, they are invited and they have to be in person. The one exception that we're gonna make is Brian.

We told him.

I said, Brian, you can set up a skype interview with the Dick Touchers. We will interview them on the show, and not about any fights they have coming up. We'll interview them about what made them famous. I forgot the name of the promotion that they're in, but confusion. Yeah, the guy with the hat is still the champion.

He won the title in this fight in twenty fifteen, and he's still the champion.

Also underrated about this and you always ignore it. They're also smooching in the clip.

Well what's that chick doing? And they made a heart and she's right there in the middle of the heart.

I don't know.

I feel like, yeah, I've seen adult movies that start that way.

With two guys touching. Now, no, no, no, what are you watching?

A different math?

Different? Yeah?

All right, okay, then people wonder why I regret it, Luke, Okay, I don't know all your dick pics. No, Grismo was very cute until midnight, right until I mean, like and they just put water on his back and yeah, and that was that.

Okay. With that in mind, his time for odds and ends. Brian Camp will give me your eyes. I got a few here, Lucas. Hit me with them, all right, hit me with the horns money. I'm gonna tell you this this weekend on his own. There's a boxing welterweight fight that I'm really excited about. And when it was announced I did wasn't moved.

Mikey Garcia second fight at welterweight against Jesse Vargas, who's coming down from one to fifty four former title holder. Luke. I still think we don't know for sure if Mikey Garcia is a roal Walterwait, the Aero Spence fight was really was like a twelve round shutout. Mike, He's won titles from like, you know, one twenty six through one forty whatever. Jesse Vargas is a big welterweight who's coming down from fifty four and is known in the second half of his career as an action fighter who goes to the body and makes fights happen. This is a potential trap fight here. Mike Garcia is very skilled. He's an accurate counterpunchary hits hard.

This is on his owne. This is on his own He also a question did he sign a one fight deal with.

He did sign a one fight deal for the idea of if he wins this, maybe he would get Pacchio on his owne after pacchio PBC contract runs out. This is suddenly a This is gonna be a good action fight because Mikey's gonna have to fight against this guy.

So I'm looking forward to it.

It kind of it snuck up on us when it was announced with like, oh, all right, jesse Vargas is okay, but the reality is well, go back and watch jesse Vargas skins Broner against the Lormete like he brawls nowadays, he.

Goes after it.

Broner got arrested over the weekend.

Yeah, yeah, very out of character for him.

It happened.

Go ahead, next, anything else? You say a couple of these?

Yeah, I had a few other ones. What else?

You do? Mine real quickly and maybe it'll jog your memory for me. Don't forget This coming weekend is UFC Norfolk, which happens to be the flyweight title is gonna be up for grabs. Devison Figuredo taking on Joseph Benevetez. Beneftez actually turns out with the odds makers a bit of a slight favorite. He's not like the prohibitive favorite, which I'm a little surprised by. Although Devison Fgareeda is pretty good, his best wine, if you ask me, is John Moraga. I think he lost to Formiga in twenty nineteen. He has two more wins past that. I'm glad to see the flyway title back in rotation here.

I don't think the division should have been folded.

I wouldn't have cared if they did. But if they're gonna keep it around, give these guy fights. And I say this about just have been to Vida six years between title shots. He probably just didn't know what was gonna happen. They nearly folded the division. I don't know if he's gonna win, but I will say if he does, it would be a monumental achievement for him. He's one of the good guys.

In the sport. He's one of those longtime bridesmaids where you're like, that's a title contender title a guy who a championship material just never got.

The had to either fight out of his weight class or fight the all time best fly whatever, and Demitris Johnson will finally he's got a chance to put his own standard.

Want to go through so hudo to get there. It's interesting even though.

Well, I mean, if he goes back to the division, we'll see. But the point being is for at least Saturday, you can you can't say I've been stuck under the thumb of something else. Now it's your chance to get ahead. So the flyweight title for grabs in Norfolk Virginia.

Today is a happy birthday Floyd Mayweather Luke Wow forty three, forty three has been celebrating his birthday all weekend. He's been all over Instagram and stuff. Peop ask him if he's gonna come back. He gave the typical Floyd answers, which is no answer. But in your heart of hearts, Luke, does this forty three year old fight this calendar year, whether it's Habib in a boxing match, Connor rematch.

I've been so wrong about Floyd so many times. I just don't know, to be honest, it's part of me. It's like I'd be kind of interested to see who he is.

What do you think about talk that Floyd is saying I will box Connor and Habib on the same day, like one in the morning, one at night.

Yeah, well, I mean that's just you know, silly.

But wond where Jones did that bit where he beat up the guy and then he played basketball in the morning.

Yeah. Yeah, I'll just say this, if he if he if he really is able to win because he can train and do something kind of interesting, then fine. But I'm less interested in him, just you know, flying over to Japan taking a pay check to go beat up some you know, essentially what do you want to say, flyweight or whatever.

Even though he's the ultimate heel and villain and he's made his his money and his number one villain, and he made his money in career on the idea of like, I'm gonna make you not like me, so you pay to see me lose. Would you be upset if he did? If he did add an actual loss in an actual fight in one of these sort of cheesy situations, uh, you know late in his career, like he's not gonna actually be fighting Crawford or Spence, he's actually yes, if he overstayed his welcome, and then you know, everything he built went up and smoked because he just mishandled himself and everything about everything about what he was in his prime was so careful.

It would be kind of like to what what'd you do that for?

Like some cut against Connor in the rematch.

You couldn't you couldn't invest your money elsewhere and like just you know, get dividends from that.

But what's your favorite off Floyd moment his whole career? Yeah, I mean we we you and I came of age in the boxing trade in the Mayweather era when people always ask me to go one year old and you have grandkids and they're gonna say, what'd you do for a living?

They're gonna say, who'd you cover?

I'm gonna, i will say, because I did not think it was possible, not that he couldn't win, similar to this Fury and Wilder situation when he stopped breaking hadn't. I know that's a little bit later in his career, but it's the one to me where I thought Floyd just styled on him and he looked unbelievable, and then the fact that he put his lights out in it was the eleventh round.

Memory serves, check hook check left hook, was face first into the corner.

It wasn't prime maybe kind of prime Floyd, but it was vintage Floyd, and it was Floyd a very.

I'm still not going to ever get over.

And obviously this one has age so much better, with Canel will becoming, you know, arguably the pound for pound king, but the ease in which thirty six year old may Weather beat Canelo.

But he had to himself. I know they come him down two pounds.

I know he's twenty three, but look the ease the he was clowning him at the end.

Remember when Canelo missed and ran into the road.

C J.

Ross had to say, that is true.

All right, to close over odds and ends over unders.

I popped over the weekend.

I don't know if you saw Laila Ali, forty two year old, arguably the greatest female boxer of all time. She was on ESPN to preview the Wilder Fury fight and she said, for the first time publicly, I would I might fight and come back after being out of the game for eleven or twelve years and fight Clarissa Shields if the money is right. I think that got me, don't you.

In theory, the.

Younger prime fighter should. But Clarissa is now going down to like fifty four. What she won a first title at sixty eight. Leila Ali fought at sixty eight in her prime. I mean, look, the odds are against Laila Ali having success because she's been out for eleven to twelve years. But what she said in that interview was that she has a whole lifestyle brand which is built on exercise and needing. Well, she hasn't been in the gym training, but she's been in the gym for the whole time. And I saw Clorisa Shields this weekend in passing. I was talking to her and she said that she hears that Layla's been training for more than a year for this sort of announcement, knowing that Clorissa's building, knowing that there's potential, you know, a pot of money there.

Layla has never been a bad career manager of her own.

Oh, she's she's pressed.

So you know what, I would believe.

That would you pop for this? Because I would get super excited at this. I mean the Ali name that is true.

If she's actually spent significant time waiting to get better, uh, and then you know, sort of reclaim her physicality before making some kind of overture for it.

Yes, and the idea that Clorisa doesn't really have anybody else right now on that level, and the idea that they that they.

Don't like each other.

Now they've been kind of talking trash over social media for a while.

Now, it's just that she was Leila Lee was on Ackenbrock Show and just trashed Clarissa there.

So I like a good beef. I like when you know, because I know you like beef if you're Oh darn. If you're Clarissa and you're saying you're the glow, can we take the W out of goow?

Can we call it the go You should have to go through one of the greats. So I know she's forty two, but hey, she's an ali bro.

All right, power's the last thing to go? Okay?

I asked that to Jerry Cooney this weekend. He came up and put his fists right andre.

You ever see it? You ever held his hand?

Yeah, shook it. Dude has just he got some myths on him. One of the nicest people, by the way, in the entire sport.

I'll see him today. He has does the show after mine. Uh okay, they're put up the social so you know how to follow us and all the good stuff. Where to send Brian your dick pics?

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Okay.

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