Well there we are, putting my earpiece in like a total non thro Hi everybody, my name is Luke Thomas. It is the thirtieth of December twenty nineteen, and it is time for Morning Combat. What a what a series of fails this morning has been. I got here on time, which is more than I can say for my trustee co host, Brian Campbell. But I didn't have my earpiece in because I'm just so derailed by everything. Welcome to everyone, Thank you for joining us. Really appreciate it. Here's what today was supposed to be. I think it still will be. We're not going to do decades best. We're not going to do our awards because every other show does that and it's really the lame. We decided, why not just do the top five stories that matter to us most in and out of Combat Sports, a little bit of a weekend pre review, and then we'll get into all of that. And it actually turns out that just before we started here, he only lives I'm not making this up. He lives four miles away and he was still somehow twenty minutes late. But it's my friend and yours Brian Campbell from CBS Sports. I would love to know. Yo.

Well there we are, putting my earpiece in like a total non thro Hi everybody, my name is Luke Thomas. It is the thirtieth of December twenty nineteen, and it is time for Morning Combat. What a what a series of fails this morning has been. I got here on time, which is more than I can say for my trustee co host, Brian Campbell. But I didn't have my earpiece in because I'm just so derailed by everything. Welcome to everyone, Thank you for joining us. Really appreciate it. Here's what today was supposed to be. I think it still will be. We're not going to do decades best. We're not going to do our awards because every other show does that and it's really the lame. We decided, why not just do the top five stories that matter to us most in and out of Combat Sports, a little bit of a weekend pre review, and then we'll get into all of that. And it actually turns out that just before we started here, he only lives I'm not making this up. He lives four miles away and he was still somehow twenty minutes late. But it's my friend and yours Brian Campbell from CBS Sports. I would love to know. Yo.

Happy New Year, Luke. I've come on, bro, let's do this thing.

Happy New Year, Luke. I've come on, bro, let's do this thing.

Why you were so late? I brought the total package? You sicken me?

Why you were so late? I brought the total package? You sicken me?

All right, all right, all right, my on is this thing on?

All right, all right, all right, my on is this thing on?

You're on? New Year? To you, sir, New Year?

You're on? New Year? To you, sir, New Year?

I had to travel morning from Hell, Luke.

I had to travel morning from Hell, Luke.

Okay, I want to explain something to you. Do you understand that I could take a later train and if everything went fine, I'd still get her on time. Here's what I do. I take the train so early that if there's problems, I still get here on time.

Okay, I want to explain something to you. Do you understand that I could take a later train and if everything went fine, I'd still get her on time. Here's what I do. I take the train so early that if there's problems, I still get here on time.

Well you as well?

Well you as well?

Would you have guessed it would take five hours to commeet from Connecticut to Uh yes to this this Jersey swamp? Hey, we made it end of the year bash. No, this is not a great beer tasting episode. No, it's not Luke's life versus mine for control and power. But we want to celebrate what has been in a This show has been a tremendous discovery. I forgive you for both of our careers. You know, we built a family of weird.

Would you have guessed it would take five hours to commeet from Connecticut to Uh yes to this this Jersey swamp? Hey, we made it end of the year bash. No, this is not a great beer tasting episode. No, it's not Luke's life versus mine for control and power. But we want to celebrate what has been in a This show has been a tremendous discovery. I forgive you for both of our careers. You know, we built a family of weird.

I forgive you for your non apology. Boy, sound like my wife. This is great. This is you gotta say you're sorry. All right, all right, hey, check out the build on this and he doesn't. All right, we'll see.

I forgive you for your non apology. Boy, sound like my wife. This is great. This is you gotta say you're sorry. All right, all right, hey, check out the build on this and he doesn't. All right, we'll see.

All right, look we need to celebrate this year, all right?

All right, look we need to celebrate this year, all right?

Uh do we in the worst possible fashion? You're sweaty.

Uh do we in the worst possible fashion? You're sweaty.

I got rained on.

I got rained on.

Zero sympathy from me, all right, zero? You got to get up earlier, bro? What time you get up to come to the show? Very early? Time to get up? I don't need to disclose the personal details. Time to get up?

Zero sympathy from me, all right, zero? You got to get up earlier, bro? What time you get up to come to the show? Very early? Time to get up? I don't need to disclose the personal details. Time to get up?

Is this an interrogation? My check is still gonna clear.

Is this an interrogation? My check is still gonna clear.

I don't sign those I don't sign those checks. All right? What time to get up? All right? Very early? You want to move on with Uh? In just a minute. I get up at four thirty, four thirty. It's very and I'm four hours away late.

I don't sign those I don't sign those checks. All right? What time to get up? All right? Very early? You want to move on with Uh? In just a minute. I get up at four thirty, four thirty. It's very and I'm four hours away late.

That's very rogan of you, very want to point that out, very tony Robbins.

That's very rogan of you, very want to point that out, very tony Robbins.

I appreciate you. All right, Now we have this bucket of beer here for mister non apology.

I appreciate you. All right, Now we have this bucket of beer here for mister non apology.

It is Did you apologize to the listeners for coming in there?

It is Did you apologize to the listeners for coming in there?

All we needed so it is cold? Now here's what we did. Did you pick out the beers? Because this is our trust. You just told them what you liked. I told them what I like, and the producers put it together. So you said, what I p as that are fruity? I said, I can't do fruity, So how about this one. I'm just gonna hand you what's out dogfish Head, which is I think of Brendet of like Delaware, they have the Super eight super goss Goes. I've never seen this one. Our sessional gauze goes brewed with a bevy of caad fruits and Qwa pours a deep vibrant red with an ample addition of Hawaiian sea salt. That's for you. This one's for Kendall Grove. Thank you, shout out. This is grim Helio Graham. This is a dry hop sour ale. I'll pass on that. The show's pretty good though. Uh here we go. You know what, it's Delirium Tremens. You can't go wrong with old Delirium Tremens. I told him I wanted Belgian beer, so I'm just gonna have that. Oh yes, that we might need that as well. Well.

All we needed so it is cold? Now here's what we did. Did you pick out the beers? Because this is our trust. You just told them what you liked. I told them what I like, and the producers put it together. So you said, what I p as that are fruity? I said, I can't do fruity, So how about this one. I'm just gonna hand you what's out dogfish Head, which is I think of Brendet of like Delaware, they have the Super eight super goss Goes. I've never seen this one. Our sessional gauze goes brewed with a bevy of caad fruits and Qwa pours a deep vibrant red with an ample addition of Hawaiian sea salt. That's for you. This one's for Kendall Grove. Thank you, shout out. This is grim Helio Graham. This is a dry hop sour ale. I'll pass on that. The show's pretty good though. Uh here we go. You know what, it's Delirium Tremens. You can't go wrong with old Delirium Tremens. I told him I wanted Belgian beer, so I'm just gonna have that. Oh yes, that we might need that as well. Well.

We are here to celebrate today, Luke okay, are we a twenty nineteen of combat our arrival on the scene. We're the most destructive combat brothers since the Melendez is we're on fire right now?

We are here to celebrate today, Luke okay, are we a twenty nineteen of combat our arrival on the scene. We're the most destructive combat brothers since the Melendez is we're on fire right now?

Are they combat brothers? Are they just murderers? Yeah? Well, all right, so here's we're gonna do. We have to do a bit of a weekend review. Yes, and then we're going to get into the way they apparently want to structure it is my top five, which we'll kind of burn through all of them.

Are they combat brothers? Are they just murderers? Yeah? Well, all right, so here's we're gonna do. We have to do a bit of a weekend review. Yes, and then we're going to get into the way they apparently want to structure it is my top five, which we'll kind of burn through all of them.

Yeah, we want to look at our best of the decade.

Yeah, we want to look at our best of the decade.

I'm not talking about what's your best round of the decade, Luke, I mean what's your best damn moments of the year?

I'm not talking about what's your best round of the decade, Luke, I mean what's your best damn moments of the year?

All right? Like I was saying, the most the things we think about twenty nineteen in our lives, combat sports and outside. What really stood out.

All right? Like I was saying, the most the things we think about twenty nineteen in our lives, combat sports and outside. What really stood out.

To us is we have MK ultra life that we've built right here.

To us is we have MK ultra life that we've built right here.

Before this out that we'll toast it and then we will begin the weekend review. Okay, that's pretty nice and cold. There we go. Hey, there's the swimming with bow legged women. This is the tip tip action right there. All right, that's good. That's really good to.

Before this out that we'll toast it and then we will begin the weekend review. Okay, that's pretty nice and cold. There we go. Hey, there's the swimming with bow legged women. This is the tip tip action right there. All right, that's good. That's really good to.

A drink minimum onset today, I heard, all right.

A drink minimum onset today, I heard, all right.

All right, so let's do this. I guess I'll go to this camera over the weekend showtime, right here Showtime Sports had a card down in Atlanta, Georgia. Your headlining action jumping up a weight class to one thirty five, Jervonte Davis taking on your Yorkist Gamboa. He wins via twelfth round stoppage after not one, not two, but three knockdowns. So in this voyage into one thirty five, I thought there was some good. Brian thought there was some bad. First of all, it's talk about the bad upfront, because we have to the reason why is he nearly missed weight going up a weight class Now he eventually made it with a second attempt after two hours from the commission. A little bit disconcerting that he did. Plus, I thought Paul Malanaji, who was the commentator that night, was pretty fair about it. In these bursts, I thought his power did carry over into one thirty five. His speed was still electrifying, his accuracy, his timing, he was really good about splitting Gamba was timing. But then he would have these moments where he would kind of take rounds off, which he's been accused of doing. But you thought, up aweight class, maybe this wouldn't be an issue. Now. On the good side, as I mentioned, some of the things that I just talked about with his boxing technique. Plus, dude, that crowd was all about him, and I was telling the producers here, I went bar hopping that night in DC because that's some friendsm out of the country that he just wanted to go around. We ended up in a place that caters to like an African American establishment. We walk upstairs and all the other bars in the row were all showing Clemson and everything else. This particular club, it was nothing but Jervonte Davis all the way around. He really seems to be making inroads. They had celebrities there, so to me, I thought there was some good. I thought there was some bad. But there's some big questions about whether or not he could be a star. But are you gonna be the boxer that we think you can be? The flashes are there. I don't know if the rest of it is there yet. Yeah.

All right, so let's do this. I guess I'll go to this camera over the weekend showtime, right here Showtime Sports had a card down in Atlanta, Georgia. Your headlining action jumping up a weight class to one thirty five, Jervonte Davis taking on your Yorkist Gamboa. He wins via twelfth round stoppage after not one, not two, but three knockdowns. So in this voyage into one thirty five, I thought there was some good. Brian thought there was some bad. First of all, it's talk about the bad upfront, because we have to the reason why is he nearly missed weight going up a weight class Now he eventually made it with a second attempt after two hours from the commission. A little bit disconcerting that he did. Plus, I thought Paul Malanaji, who was the commentator that night, was pretty fair about it. In these bursts, I thought his power did carry over into one thirty five. His speed was still electrifying, his accuracy, his timing, he was really good about splitting Gamba was timing. But then he would have these moments where he would kind of take rounds off, which he's been accused of doing. But you thought, up aweight class, maybe this wouldn't be an issue. Now. On the good side, as I mentioned, some of the things that I just talked about with his boxing technique. Plus, dude, that crowd was all about him, and I was telling the producers here, I went bar hopping that night in DC because that's some friendsm out of the country that he just wanted to go around. We ended up in a place that caters to like an African American establishment. We walk upstairs and all the other bars in the row were all showing Clemson and everything else. This particular club, it was nothing but Jervonte Davis all the way around. He really seems to be making inroads. They had celebrities there, so to me, I thought there was some good. I thought there was some bad. But there's some big questions about whether or not he could be a star. But are you gonna be the boxer that we think you can be? The flashes are there. I don't know if the rest of it is there yet. Yeah.

I called it a very uneven performance on my recap on CBS Sports, and you nailed it. The big displays of power were undoubtedly there. That's what you come to see with Dravonte. Should he have allowed though a thirty eight year old Uri Scamboa who by the way, beer follower or not here came to win that fight, was willing to put a shield on the line. A guy who wasn't noted for having a great chin, even though he's been an explosive fighter throughout his career. Let him hang around, also with an injured right leg and almost finished the fight.

I called it a very uneven performance on my recap on CBS Sports, and you nailed it. The big displays of power were undoubtedly there. That's what you come to see with Dravonte. Should he have allowed though a thirty eight year old Uri Scamboa who by the way, beer follower or not here came to win that fight, was willing to put a shield on the line. A guy who wasn't noted for having a great chin, even though he's been an explosive fighter throughout his career. Let him hang around, also with an injured right leg and almost finished the fight.

There was a lot to like.

There was a lot to like.

There's a commercial side of boxing, there's a critical side, commercial side. You said it, He nailed it fifteen thousand. People can't be wrong. He is a moving attraction, a traveling show. People come to see him, but you have to deliver up to the hype. It may be one of those where you can look back on years and go from now and go on his box trip page and be like, oh, Ko twelve man Gamboa must have really pushed him. That's a good win against a very strong veteran opponent. True, But that's also when you can pick a lot of holes in because at this point, at twenty five, having already endured the sort of public shame, if you will, when he was in that Comain event bout on the Maymac card a couple of years back, when he got that big platform and he misweight lost his belt on the Scales really seemed to learn from that.

There's a commercial side of boxing, there's a critical side, commercial side. You said it, He nailed it fifteen thousand. People can't be wrong. He is a moving attraction, a traveling show. People come to see him, but you have to deliver up to the hype. It may be one of those where you can look back on years and go from now and go on his box trip page and be like, oh, Ko twelve man Gamboa must have really pushed him. That's a good win against a very strong veteran opponent. True, But that's also when you can pick a lot of holes in because at this point, at twenty five, having already endured the sort of public shame, if you will, when he was in that Comain event bout on the Maymac card a couple of years back, when he got that big platform and he misweight lost his belt on the Scales really seemed to learn from that.

He's a new father.

He's a new father.

Since then, he's turned a lot of things around, and he's had a hell of a year with three knockouts. But he didn't come in on wait the first time, and that played out during the fight. I think if you can connect the dots when he had those big time stamina drops in there, you can't win against elite fighters throwing fifteen punches around. He let amballa hang around, and he didn't show the complete performance that by far he's capable of. And that's why in twenty twenty, the competition's going to have to raise up, because you can only learn so much about yourself when you're blowing guys away. Up to a certain level, this was certainly a learning experience overall, but for him to be able to out box an elite fighter for twelve rounds if he has to, you have to go through these experiences and you have to shine through them. Saved himself with the knockout, but there's a lot of criticism to come if that didn't happen.

Since then, he's turned a lot of things around, and he's had a hell of a year with three knockouts. But he didn't come in on wait the first time, and that played out during the fight. I think if you can connect the dots when he had those big time stamina drops in there, you can't win against elite fighters throwing fifteen punches around. He let amballa hang around, and he didn't show the complete performance that by far he's capable of. And that's why in twenty twenty, the competition's going to have to raise up, because you can only learn so much about yourself when you're blowing guys away. Up to a certain level, this was certainly a learning experience overall, but for him to be able to out box an elite fighter for twelve rounds if he has to, you have to go through these experiences and you have to shine through them. Saved himself with the knockout, but there's a lot of criticism to come if that didn't happen.

He was able to play with his food. The question is what happens when he can't. That wasn't a question for Saturday in Atlanta, but it's one going forward now. In that co main event, Badu Jack taking on John Pascal. I thought it was a no. I thought it was a great fight. I did not think it was a fight of the Year contender. You seem to think it was. Don't understand me, Bryan. I enjoyed it, like the fourth round knockdown, then the twelfth round knockdown, trading back and forth, the clinical guy, Pascal being just your heavier, crazy fighting spurts kind of guy. I enjoyed it, but that wasn't anything compared to Spence Porter.

He was able to play with his food. The question is what happens when he can't. That wasn't a question for Saturday in Atlanta, but it's one going forward now. In that co main event, Badu Jack taking on John Pascal. I thought it was a no. I thought it was a great fight. I did not think it was a fight of the Year contender. You seem to think it was. Don't understand me, Bryan. I enjoyed it, like the fourth round knockdown, then the twelfth round knockdown, trading back and forth, the clinical guy, Pascal being just your heavier, crazy fighting spurts kind of guy. I enjoyed it, but that wasn't anything compared to Spence Porter.

Well, you're hard to satisfy in general, that is true, but look, this was damn right a fight of the year contender.

Well, you're hard to satisfy in general, that is true, but look, this was damn right a fight of the year contender.

I would have put it at the back end of my top five.

I would have put it at the back end of my top five.

And another reason why I hate when out Let's jump the gun on December fifth and put out their awards for the year. I hate that there's no rush, nothing goes on in combat the first few weeks of January.

And another reason why I hate when out Let's jump the gun on December fifth and put out their awards for the year. I hate that there's no rush, nothing goes on in combat the first few weeks of January.

We all know that everybody wants to be first.

We all know that everybody wants to be first.

Though both guys put it on the line, these are two guys that kind of fit into what I love hashtag old guy fights still have something left in the tank, but there's certainly past their prime. And what this produced was a blood and guts, back and forth war that you had to be entertained and want to turnaround for Jean Pascal, who's got to kill a resume. He's fought everybody, but we had left him for dead a couple of times in recent years when he's lost to guys on the web, and we said, okay, that's Iteddi's cheney, It's the end of the line. He comes back this year, knocks out Marcus Brown for a secondary title.

Though both guys put it on the line, these are two guys that kind of fit into what I love hashtag old guy fights still have something left in the tank, but there's certainly past their prime. And what this produced was a blood and guts, back and forth war that you had to be entertained and want to turnaround for Jean Pascal, who's got to kill a resume. He's fought everybody, but we had left him for dead a couple of times in recent years when he's lost to guys on the web, and we said, okay, that's Iteddi's cheney, It's the end of the line. He comes back this year, knocks out Marcus Brown for a secondary title.

And then Spotty Jack.

And then Spotty Jack.

Close fight could have gone either way.

Close fight could have gone either way.

I did want to circles back on Gervonte though, something quick about the idea of what is next and how big of a twenty twenty he needs to have.

I did want to circles back on Gervonte though, something quick about the idea of what is next and how big of a twenty twenty he needs to have.

Commercially.

Commercially.

He's there, He's where he needs to be to begin to make that leap to the pay per view level. You need the dance partners, you need to be willing, and you need to chase them.

He's there, He's where he needs to be to begin to make that leap to the pay per view level. You need the dance partners, you need to be willing, and you need to chase them.

It's kind of not his fault.

It's kind of not his fault.

His year was supposed to start in twenty nineteen with that Abner marras Showtown in March on Showtime last minute, Maraz pulled out all Dravante did in the meantime was nock dudes out when they got in there against him, until Saturday night, where it was a little bit more of a test. It's time now whether you're welcoming in Leo Santa Cruz, who is very hungry he wants to be in there, or whether we can begin to bang the drum for those.

His year was supposed to start in twenty nineteen with that Abner marras Showtown in March on Showtime last minute, Maraz pulled out all Dravante did in the meantime was nock dudes out when they got in there against him, until Saturday night, where it was a little bit more of a test. It's time now whether you're welcoming in Leo Santa Cruz, who is very hungry he wants to be in there, or whether we can begin to bang the drum for those.

Cross network, cross platform fights.

Cross network, cross platform fights.

This division is loaded with young big names that have Van Hanes of the World, Ryan Garcia, who's calling out Tank. I saw Vasili Lomachenko. Tank just won the secondary version of that WBA title, which Vasili Lomachenko is the WBA champion. I want to start hearing about these fights being cooked up, and I need Dravonte to step up and say I want these fights as well.

This division is loaded with young big names that have Van Hanes of the World, Ryan Garcia, who's calling out Tank. I saw Vasili Lomachenko. Tank just won the secondary version of that WBA title, which Vasili Lomachenko is the WBA champion. I want to start hearing about these fights being cooked up, and I need Dravonte to step up and say I want these fights as well.

Yeah, twenty five years old, if you're going to make that next leap into pay per view, I want to see some pay per view worthy of opponents. So he looked good, but there were some questions that remained. The one piece of MMA content that I want to get to before we start our top five. God, this was bad. This was bad. Dude, fad Or fought rampage in Japan. I'll give fad Or that. Yeah, I'll give fad Or credit. I thought he looked about as good as you could expect. The crowd seemed to be well. The sidetime of Superno was well attended. I thought rampages walk Out with the Pride theme was great. Fad Or looked good in terms of getting the crowd hived the the the ramp that they were on, it had all the theatrics you could really want. So on the one hand, I sort of appreciate what Bilto was trying to do there. They loved that nostalgia reminiscensm angle. This was this was terrible. Uh, there's really no way to go about it. Again, I don't blame fad Or for it. Rampage seemed utterly unprepared. Now there's it's interesting. No one is more in the old guy business. You were talking about Badou Jack and and yes, well those guys are still top ten and like heavyweight, we're not talking about that anymore. A heavyweight. These are long past top ten rankings. I wrote an article several years ago saying that people who thought, for example, that Leader Jail through the fight against Tito or other ones, you could have looked at that I understand why you might look at it that way, but it's just not rational. If we've certainly seen thrown fights. Taey hoom Bang and Leo Koons got in trouble. Remember take Hombang went to jail fort in Korea, South Korea. But the chances are you have seen a throne fight. It's just that you didn't know. They were very good about concealing it. I do not think under any capacity that Rampage through a fight.

Yeah, twenty five years old, if you're going to make that next leap into pay per view, I want to see some pay per view worthy of opponents. So he looked good, but there were some questions that remained. The one piece of MMA content that I want to get to before we start our top five. God, this was bad. This was bad. Dude, fad Or fought rampage in Japan. I'll give fad Or that. Yeah, I'll give fad Or credit. I thought he looked about as good as you could expect. The crowd seemed to be well. The sidetime of Superno was well attended. I thought rampages walk Out with the Pride theme was great. Fad Or looked good in terms of getting the crowd hived the the the ramp that they were on, it had all the theatrics you could really want. So on the one hand, I sort of appreciate what Bilto was trying to do there. They loved that nostalgia reminiscensm angle. This was this was terrible. Uh, there's really no way to go about it. Again, I don't blame fad Or for it. Rampage seemed utterly unprepared. Now there's it's interesting. No one is more in the old guy business. You were talking about Badou Jack and and yes, well those guys are still top ten and like heavyweight, we're not talking about that anymore. A heavyweight. These are long past top ten rankings. I wrote an article several years ago saying that people who thought, for example, that Leader Jail through the fight against Tito or other ones, you could have looked at that I understand why you might look at it that way, but it's just not rational. If we've certainly seen thrown fights. Taey hoom Bang and Leo Koons got in trouble. Remember take Hombang went to jail fort in Korea, South Korea. But the chances are you have seen a throne fight. It's just that you didn't know. They were very good about concealing it. I do not think under any capacity that Rampage through a fight.

Here's not in the traditional sense, but this is.

Here's not in the traditional sense, but this is.

But this is my point, right, you invite this kind of skepticism, however irrational it might be, when you have a guy that you trot out there as utterly unprepared as at heavyweight as he was. This was a terrible showing. You know, I don't know what Scott Coker is going to do about it, because if you think about it, remember Rampage had his little fiasco when he thought Fabio Maldonado in the UFC. That was during Scott Coker's reign. Then he comes back, well, dide STT.

But this is my point, right, you invite this kind of skepticism, however irrational it might be, when you have a guy that you trot out there as utterly unprepared as at heavyweight as he was. This was a terrible showing. You know, I don't know what Scott Coker is going to do about it, because if you think about it, remember Rampage had his little fiasco when he thought Fabio Maldonado in the UFC. That was during Scott Coker's reign. Then he comes back, well, dide STT.

Cooker's gonna do nothing. Let's look back to one don't fail that drug.

Cooker's gonna do nothing. Let's look back to one don't fail that drug.

And he was already setting up dates in Europe for Kimbo Slave Styp Caroc's gonna do nothing.

And he was already setting up dates in Europe for Kimbo Slave Styp Caroc's gonna do nothing.

Okay, But if you're a promotional partner who's working with Rampage Jackson, you've done as much as you can for the guy terms of giving him the fights on of the places that he wants to fight, and he shows up like that. It was disgraceful, man, it was absolutely disgraceful.

Okay, But if you're a promotional partner who's working with Rampage Jackson, you've done as much as you can for the guy terms of giving him the fights on of the places that he wants to fight, and he shows up like that. It was disgraceful, man, it was absolutely disgraceful.

And look what Rampage did is he broke the code of what we're doing here. This is the other end of old guy fights. I love him, I slap him up, I need him. It's gas station food. But Luke, it's a carnival in a circus, one that belatour has really cornered.

And look what Rampage did is he broke the code of what we're doing here. This is the other end of old guy fights. I love him, I slap him up, I need him. It's gas station food. But Luke, it's a carnival in a circus, one that belatour has really cornered.

The market on over the years.

The market on over the years.

But what we sort of sign up for is that at least come in the best shape you can, at least go after it. And usually if these things are done right, they'll end quick enough. No one has to take any extended damage. We get that nostalgic drug that we're looking for, we'll typically get a sloppy little brawl, because that's the whole thing about why old guy fights work and why we love him.

But what we sort of sign up for is that at least come in the best shape you can, at least go after it. And usually if these things are done right, they'll end quick enough. No one has to take any extended damage. We get that nostalgic drug that we're looking for, we'll typically get a sloppy little brawl, because that's the whole thing about why old guy fights work and why we love him.

You got a little bit of diminished skills between name guys.

You got a little bit of diminished skills between name guys.

It's fun. Rampage broke that code. He came in disturbingly out of shape. He had been out of shape for that recent run when he was up at heavyweight.

It's fun. Rampage broke that code. He came in disturbingly out of shape. He had been out of shape for that recent run when he was up at heavyweight.

You know, a little pop belly there, But you know it's fine.

You know, a little pop belly there, But you know it's fine.

He's still a tough guy. You're not gonna submit him, You're not gonna knock him out. He's still one of those guys. This was an absolute fu to the integrity of not just the sport, but the idea of these old guy fights.

He's still a tough guy. You're not gonna submit him, You're not gonna knock him out. He's still one of those guys. This was an absolute fu to the integrity of not just the sport, but the idea of these old guy fights.

You need to sort of stay in the old guy.

You need to sort of stay in the old guy.

Code, and if you're gonna be in a circus fight, you gotta at least take care of yourself coming in and not have this type of ending, because we don't want to feel bad about ourselves when we're watching this slot. It's already bad enough, and when you come in there at that level out of shape, it's just like this is this is sad, this is disgusting. I want nothing to do with this. Fade or gained nothing from this now. Can you gauge Fador's expression? No, you once interviewed him and ruined an interview I was supposed to have right after you by the way by asking about his favorite books hashtag never forget. But he's never gonna give you an expression yet. He even looks sort of extra sad, like come on, dude, get the hell up, let's do this thing.

Code, and if you're gonna be in a circus fight, you gotta at least take care of yourself coming in and not have this type of ending, because we don't want to feel bad about ourselves when we're watching this slot. It's already bad enough, and when you come in there at that level out of shape, it's just like this is this is sad, this is disgusting. I want nothing to do with this. Fade or gained nothing from this now. Can you gauge Fador's expression? No, you once interviewed him and ruined an interview I was supposed to have right after you by the way by asking about his favorite books hashtag never forget. But he's never gonna give you an expression yet. He even looks sort of extra sad, like come on, dude, get the hell up, let's do this thing.

Yeah, I mean, and then taking a picture with fad Or It's like, I don't mind sportsmanship and under performance like that. It just looks exploiting on Instagram and sort of you know, it was just it was. And here's what I'm saying.

Yeah, I mean, and then taking a picture with fad Or It's like, I don't mind sportsmanship and under performance like that. It just looks exploiting on Instagram and sort of you know, it was just it was. And here's what I'm saying.

I'm still cashing checks that kind of stuff. I mean, like, right, the hater's owner stand, I'm still cashing checks. It's like, dude, but you shouldn't be for performances like that. And I'm not asking him to finish the job and get knocked out cold. I'm asking him to just try to compete. So you get to a certain level where you can't wear the sweatshirt to the way and we're gonna see what's really going on.

I'm still cashing checks that kind of stuff. I mean, like, right, the hater's owner stand, I'm still cashing checks. It's like, dude, but you shouldn't be for performances like that. And I'm not asking him to finish the job and get knocked out cold. I'm asking him to just try to compete. So you get to a certain level where you can't wear the sweatshirt to the way and we're gonna see what's really going on.

I mean, you got to go in the pool with your shirt off. That's the rules. He came in there and it was really sad. Yeah, well we got to move along. We don't have more time for it. But the rising takes place. I think tonight heading into Tuesday.

I mean, you got to go in the pool with your shirt off. That's the rules. He came in there and it was really sad. Yeah, well we got to move along. We don't have more time for it. But the rising takes place. I think tonight heading into Tuesday.

So, I mean, you never know what's gonna happen in the old guy fight he walked in. I thought we might say pregnancy. I thought we might say birth. Someone gives birth. I mean it was like it was like Arnold and Junior.

So, I mean, you never know what's gonna happen in the old guy fight he walked in. I thought we might say pregnancy. I thought we might say birth. Someone gives birth. I mean it was like it was like Arnold and Junior.

This is the thing. It's like we're blaming rampage. But another part is like, dude, if you're a belt waring, you're Scott Koker belt. He already did the whole thing with Fibel Moldonado on twenty fifteen. And then on top of that, it's like, dude, you know you book all guy fights, they just end weird man, and they don't. They don't, they don't go the way they're always supposed to. You don't want scrutiny for people saying through a fight. I get it. I don't think anyone did you keep booking fights like this? You're gonna keep getting questions like this. Okay, time for a transition, if we can. Brian, all right, let's go through my top five. So you picked top five best stories of twenty nineteen that inside and outside of combat sports. We're gonna get to them in a minute. Let's go through mine, and we don't have time for all of these because I want to make sure we get to the star that really matters the most. But I do think, Brian, that this one does in fact matter. My number five the welterweight division, and I wrote from the you know, from Ben Askrins, he had a great run, that there was a collapse, the return of Nate Diaz, Anthony Pettis had a bit of a resurgence, although he had you know, his own issues there, Jorge masvidoal To, Colby Covington, and then Camarrow setting the world a blaze. Even as we carry over into twenty twenty, Connor's gonna fight Seroni up there. So I get it's partly like a halfway step to one fifty five. So I'm kind of cheating the margins here a little bit on this one, which I recognize, but still, Brian, I don't. We'll talk about some stuff that happened in other divisions with individual fighters, but to me, no division was hotter. No division mattered more across the sport for the things that we cared about the most, from manufacturing a BMF title to everything else than the welterweight division in twenty nineteen, what do you think of when you think of the Wlsway division, I think of Joge Mosmital.

This is the thing. It's like we're blaming rampage. But another part is like, dude, if you're a belt waring, you're Scott Koker belt. He already did the whole thing with Fibel Moldonado on twenty fifteen. And then on top of that, it's like, dude, you know you book all guy fights, they just end weird man, and they don't. They don't, they don't go the way they're always supposed to. You don't want scrutiny for people saying through a fight. I get it. I don't think anyone did you keep booking fights like this? You're gonna keep getting questions like this. Okay, time for a transition, if we can. Brian, all right, let's go through my top five. So you picked top five best stories of twenty nineteen that inside and outside of combat sports. We're gonna get to them in a minute. Let's go through mine, and we don't have time for all of these because I want to make sure we get to the star that really matters the most. But I do think, Brian, that this one does in fact matter. My number five the welterweight division, and I wrote from the you know, from Ben Askrins, he had a great run, that there was a collapse, the return of Nate Diaz, Anthony Pettis had a bit of a resurgence, although he had you know, his own issues there, Jorge masvidoal To, Colby Covington, and then Camarrow setting the world a blaze. Even as we carry over into twenty twenty, Connor's gonna fight Seroni up there. So I get it's partly like a halfway step to one fifty five. So I'm kind of cheating the margins here a little bit on this one, which I recognize, but still, Brian, I don't. We'll talk about some stuff that happened in other divisions with individual fighters, but to me, no division was hotter. No division mattered more across the sport for the things that we cared about the most, from manufacturing a BMF title to everything else than the welterweight division in twenty nineteen, what do you think of when you think of the Wlsway division, I think of Joge Mosmital.

He's the winner. I hate what people do who won the year.

He's the winner. I hate what people do who won the year.

He's the winner of this damn year by far, whether you wanted them as your fighter of the year or not. But you make a great point. The welterweight division became the sex division this year. Normally that's reserved for the few times heavyweights hot or light heavyweight, or or light or lightweight right now, which is the deepest and darkest division in good ways. This they made marque moments happen. This was a fun ast year largely because of that.

He's the winner of this damn year by far, whether you wanted them as your fighter of the year or not. But you make a great point. The welterweight division became the sex division this year. Normally that's reserved for the few times heavyweights hot or light heavyweight, or or light or lightweight right now, which is the deepest and darkest division in good ways. This they made marque moments happen. This was a fun ast year largely because of that.

Yeah, So heading into the next year, as I mentioned, Connor is going to go there. I'm kind of cheating the sides here getting to it. But I always say this, you look at the different organizations, like bigger ones globally, they're two best divisions. They might have a star here or a star there or whatever, but the two best divisions are probably gonna be one fifty five and one seventy. It's just the center of the tennis racket. Man, It's where when you hit it you don't feel any vibrations back in the wrist. And this is proof of that. Oh yes, this is the marquis of all the marquees. But you mentioned Jorge masdrol real quickly on him, he and she him and Suhudo going back on fourth yesterday on Twitter. I did not see that. Yeah, so Hudo is trying to claim Fighter of the Year.

Yeah, So heading into the next year, as I mentioned, Connor is going to go there. I'm kind of cheating the sides here getting to it. But I always say this, you look at the different organizations, like bigger ones globally, they're two best divisions. They might have a star here or a star there or whatever, but the two best divisions are probably gonna be one fifty five and one seventy. It's just the center of the tennis racket. Man, It's where when you hit it you don't feel any vibrations back in the wrist. And this is proof of that. Oh yes, this is the marquis of all the marquees. But you mentioned Jorge masdrol real quickly on him, he and she him and Suhudo going back on fourth yesterday on Twitter. I did not see that. Yeah, so Hudo is trying to claim Fighter of the Year.

He's got to claim he's top three.

He's got to claim he's top three.

In my mind, he's he's got a claim to being on the short list. I don't think he's. Well, Jesus, that sounded mean, but he's got a claim. He doesn't have the same, Like here's what Jorgeen maswud All did. There are all these guys in these divisions at one fifty five to one to seventy who are all really good for a really long time, but they kind of stay that way. And then there are the guys sometimes through popularity, sometimes through popularity in a win, usually the combination of the two that elevate themselves out of the trenches. Mate Diez did it a few years ago with Connor McGregor. Jorge did it this year.

In my mind, he's he's got a claim to being on the short list. I don't think he's. Well, Jesus, that sounded mean, but he's got a claim. He doesn't have the same, Like here's what Jorgeen maswud All did. There are all these guys in these divisions at one fifty five to one to seventy who are all really good for a really long time, but they kind of stay that way. And then there are the guys sometimes through popularity, sometimes through popularity in a win, usually the combination of the two that elevate themselves out of the trenches. Mate Diez did it a few years ago with Connor McGregor. Jorge did it this year.

He didn't just go from journeymen to super stardom pay per view headliner level. In the process, he became a legitimate title contender and is on the outskirts of the pomp for pont top ten. Like, you couldn't script a more impressive, insane.

He didn't just go from journeymen to super stardom pay per view headliner level. In the process, he became a legitimate title contender and is on the outskirts of the pomp for pont top ten. Like, you couldn't script a more impressive, insane.

Year, right, And I think doing that at welterweight is harder than doing that in other divisions. Now, Henry's claim is that he went up in weight class, which is tremendous. Okay, fine, but remember Jorge Maswal used to be at one to fifty five or has gone up to one seventy and put a claim there and now don't really Well, that's not the same thing is going being the champion? I recognize still though, dude, Well, I.

Year, right, And I think doing that at welterweight is harder than doing that in other divisions. Now, Henry's claim is that he went up in weight class, which is tremendous. Okay, fine, but remember Jorge Maswal used to be at one to fifty five or has gone up to one seventy and put a claim there and now don't really Well, that's not the same thing is going being the champion? I recognize still though, dude, Well, I.

Mean what Hendry could probably claim is he might have the best two wins of the year combined together. I thought the best win is still Shaw the I thought the best win of the year was out of Sonya over Whitaker. I thought that was the most valuable, most impressive.

Mean what Hendry could probably claim is he might have the best two wins of the year combined together. I thought the best win is still Shaw the I thought the best win of the year was out of Sonya over Whitaker. I thought that was the most valuable, most impressive.

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That's part of the currency why I'm arguing out of Sonya as your fight of the year. Have no problem with anybody picking Jorge so Hudo though for the two fights he did fight in that six month stretch, it's pretty damned are.

That's part of the currency why I'm arguing out of Sonya as your fight of the year. Have no problem with anybody picking Jorge so Hudo though for the two fights he did fight in that six month stretch, it's pretty damned are.

We going to move along here? But number four was tech bros. Taken l did you follow the.

We going to move along here? But number four was tech bros. Taken l did you follow the.

Story which you know, first of all, you put in that beer through college.

Story which you know, first of all, you put in that beer through college.

What's going on? Yeah, I am, it's still it's cold, It's still cold. Here. Here's why I want to Here's why I want to think about it. You have the whole h Q two thing happening with Amazon where they're like, they had this whole bid to have cities give them enormous to you know, utterly irresponsible tax breaks, including changing the names of cities to bring Amazon there, and then ultimately where do they just settle on? They settle on the probably the places that were going to go anywhere just outside of Washington, d C. New York decided to bail on them. But they're going to bring some offices to Manhattan just the same. So it was a bit of a bad look for Amazon. Then on top of that, I don't know, if you follow the story of We Work, Yes, you see everyone looked at the rates for the we Work offices and do they're out of control high? And then it turns out you had this uh crazy as a shithouse rat ceo who was out of his mind. They try, they have these enormous losses, They try to get an EPO or IPO. To excuse me, e p O, you try to get an IPO and it was a total disaster. Then on top of that you had Uber coming back down to earth. This year. If there was one lesson in the year in tech beyond the consumer gadget side of things, it was this was the year that the bros who believe in the solutionism of their genius ideas took a big, fat out.

What's going on? Yeah, I am, it's still it's cold, It's still cold. Here. Here's why I want to Here's why I want to think about it. You have the whole h Q two thing happening with Amazon where they're like, they had this whole bid to have cities give them enormous to you know, utterly irresponsible tax breaks, including changing the names of cities to bring Amazon there, and then ultimately where do they just settle on? They settle on the probably the places that were going to go anywhere just outside of Washington, d C. New York decided to bail on them. But they're going to bring some offices to Manhattan just the same. So it was a bit of a bad look for Amazon. Then on top of that, I don't know, if you follow the story of We Work, Yes, you see everyone looked at the rates for the we Work offices and do they're out of control high? And then it turns out you had this uh crazy as a shithouse rat ceo who was out of his mind. They try, they have these enormous losses, They try to get an EPO or IPO. To excuse me, e p O, you try to get an IPO and it was a total disaster. Then on top of that you had Uber coming back down to earth. This year. If there was one lesson in the year in tech beyond the consumer gadget side of things, it was this was the year that the bros who believe in the solutionism of their genius ideas took a big, fat out.

Oh way, this is your slaptck. You get on me all the time. Everyone, somebody get hitting the dog. It's a Cambell original. This is your version of slaptick. You love clowning on nerdy white guys.

Oh way, this is your slaptck. You get on me all the time. Everyone, somebody get hitting the dog. It's a Cambell original. This is your version of slaptick. You love clowning on nerdy white guys.

Yeah, I do. You're right, that's why you're here. Hey.

Yeah, I do. You're right, that's why you're here. Hey.

By the way, I don't normally get I don't normally rock out with the ghosts, the super ghost fantastic.

By the way, I don't normally get I don't normally rock out with the ghosts, the super ghost fantastic.

Yeah, this is great, it looks cool. We'll skip that one. Let's go to number three. The rise of Atasania. Two things happened in twenty nineteen. We saw the end of it with Volkanovski, obviously he's Australian. But more than that, you had the rise of Oceania, the rise of New Zealand, but no one was more important in that effort than Israel Ata Sonya and doing what he did. Obviously, it goes back to twenty eighteen to really capture the full breadth of the experience, but the capstone to it with the fights in Atlanta and then ultimately the ones in back in Australia, the Rod Laver Arena where he beats Robert Whitaker or it was a Marvel Stadium. Excuse me, I think it was Marvel Stadium. Rod Laver was the Silver fight. Yes, in any event, just an incredible run. They called Rod Laver. By the way, most parts of the arm just going to kick on. I like to say Lavery like the Laver yourself. Up point being is you just don't see rises like this very often. You saw John Jones do something similar. Habib's wasn't quite as quick because he had some injury in between, but you just knew you were watching a rocket ship to the stars. And I often said this, which was we always talk about the rest of the world catching up to MM, but if you look at what they're doing in that part of the world, and particular a gym city kickboxing, they didn't just catch up. They've lapped the world in certain capacities, which was something I don't think the language we use to describe globalization of MMA really ever fundamentally captured. Go ahead, and god, look, this was a hell of a year.

Yeah, this is great, it looks cool. We'll skip that one. Let's go to number three. The rise of Atasania. Two things happened in twenty nineteen. We saw the end of it with Volkanovski, obviously he's Australian. But more than that, you had the rise of Oceania, the rise of New Zealand, but no one was more important in that effort than Israel Ata Sonya and doing what he did. Obviously, it goes back to twenty eighteen to really capture the full breadth of the experience, but the capstone to it with the fights in Atlanta and then ultimately the ones in back in Australia, the Rod Laver Arena where he beats Robert Whitaker or it was a Marvel Stadium. Excuse me, I think it was Marvel Stadium. Rod Laver was the Silver fight. Yes, in any event, just an incredible run. They called Rod Laver. By the way, most parts of the arm just going to kick on. I like to say Lavery like the Laver yourself. Up point being is you just don't see rises like this very often. You saw John Jones do something similar. Habib's wasn't quite as quick because he had some injury in between, but you just knew you were watching a rocket ship to the stars. And I often said this, which was we always talk about the rest of the world catching up to MM, but if you look at what they're doing in that part of the world, and particular a gym city kickboxing, they didn't just catch up. They've lapped the world in certain capacities, which was something I don't think the language we use to describe globalization of MMA really ever fundamentally captured. Go ahead, and god, look, this was a hell of a year.

That's why I want to make that claim for Audisigania as your Fighter of the Year.

That's why I want to make that claim for Audisigania as your Fighter of the Year.

It's very rare.

It's very rare.

That you enter with so much hype, people critically doubting you because you're so flashy, you can talk, and you're trying to make that claim that I'm a generational talent right now, and to back it.

That you enter with so much hype, people critically doubting you because you're so flashy, you can talk, and you're trying to make that claim that I'm a generational talent right now, and to back it.

Up at the level he did with three fights.

Up at the level he did with three fights.

Good God, it's so weird when I'm going over my boxer and MMA Fighters of the Year and you're doing the debates and you're forming the year end stories. MMA had three, four, five, six legitimate contenders for Fighter of the Year. Three or four of those years are like slam dunk years that would have won at any other time where I feel like boxing, for whatever reason, had some very good years. There's an argument at the top, did you like Canello Moore? Did you like Spencer Pakia? Some very good years I made this year, had some breakout campaign, some monster years. Some of that is obviously due to the more intense matchmaking that the UFC goes through.

Good God, it's so weird when I'm going over my boxer and MMA Fighters of the Year and you're doing the debates and you're forming the year end stories. MMA had three, four, five, six legitimate contenders for Fighter of the Year. Three or four of those years are like slam dunk years that would have won at any other time where I feel like boxing, for whatever reason, had some very good years. There's an argument at the top, did you like Canello Moore? Did you like Spencer Pakia? Some very good years I made this year, had some breakout campaign, some monster years. Some of that is obviously due to the more intense matchmaking that the UFC goes through.

You gotta fight all killer, no filler.

You gotta fight all killer, no filler.

But even under that, guys, did anyone do anything more successful at the highest level than aut of Sonya Avid? I'll splash the pot, but Hona Sonya critically, man, that's a year that'll go up there in history in terms.

But even under that, guys, did anyone do anything more successful at the highest level than aut of Sonya Avid? I'll splash the pot, but Hona Sonya critically, man, that's a year that'll go up there in history in terms.

Of raising his visibility. No one did what and he.

Of raising his visibility. No one did what and he.

Authored the Fight of the Year on top of that and survived it.

Authored the Fight of the Year on top of that and survived it.

But my point being is for Atasania, for that run he was on from was it February of twenty eighteen all the way till the moment where he captured the title, it's just the stuff of legend. And again to do it from a part of the country where excuse be part of the world rather that is not historically known for that level of achievement, and then to just take them and under intense and unrelenting skepticism about his upside pretty important there as well. We moved to my number two story. You have to go to the tight shot here. Apparently Becky might go to prison. Oh boy, cut it out, you look sweat. Just write a song about me. A yeah, did she well, I want you to go that far? She did?

But my point being is for Atasania, for that run he was on from was it February of twenty eighteen all the way till the moment where he captured the title, it's just the stuff of legend. And again to do it from a part of the country where excuse be part of the world rather that is not historically known for that level of achievement, and then to just take them and under intense and unrelenting skepticism about his upside pretty important there as well. We moved to my number two story. You have to go to the tight shot here. Apparently Becky might go to prison. Oh boy, cut it out, you look sweat. Just write a song about me. A yeah, did she well, I want you to go that far? She did?

You want to know the big hit?

You want to know the big hit?

All right? Any event, the on Becky character, there was this whole college admission scan of the FBI uncovered all of these rich people were either paying people to take tests with their stupid kids, or creating false identities or creating false resumes around the identities to get their kids into the elite of society for colleges. Not because it meant anything more than assuring their status for their progeny, yeah, but just to do that, which lays bare all of the claims of meritocracy in this country.

All right? Any event, the on Becky character, there was this whole college admission scan of the FBI uncovered all of these rich people were either paying people to take tests with their stupid kids, or creating false identities or creating false resumes around the identities to get their kids into the elite of society for colleges. Not because it meant anything more than assuring their status for their progeny, yeah, but just to do that, which lays bare all of the claims of meritocracy in this country.

Social Robinhood, Luke Thomas, don't you find it out?

Social Robinhood, Luke Thomas, don't you find it out?

Don't you find it just so representative of the age that we have this these contests of meritocracy, which really the game is just rigged anyway, don't you feel that way?

Don't you find it just so representative of the age that we have this these contests of meritocracy, which really the game is just rigged anyway, don't you feel that way?

Yeah, I'm gonna check my dictionary afterwards to fill up most of that sentence. But hey, the mighty go down, and Luke Thomas was there to celebrate their l's This is great.

Yeah, I'm gonna check my dictionary afterwards to fill up most of that sentence. But hey, the mighty go down, and Luke Thomas was there to celebrate their l's This is great.

The mighty, yes, but not because they're mighty, because they're mighty and their scoundrels.

The mighty, yes, but not because they're mighty, because they're mighty and their scoundrels.

Hey, I never saw that coming with Aunt Becky, but at like what fifty five?

Hey, I never saw that coming with Aunt Becky, but at like what fifty five?

Still got it? Yeah, with Felicity Huffman, I got it.

Still got it? Yeah, with Felicity Huffman, I got it.

I know you're trying to move past the conversation she had.

I know you're trying to move past the conversation she had.

She had to go. I think to like to do modest time, like weekend time. You ever have a friend get du I'd have to do weekend jail. Uh No, I hang around with a higher Oh do you? Is that how you hang around with at the gas station? A buddy of mine got a dui managed to figure out a way to go to jail on the weekends, so we'd always pick him up on Sunday and ask him if he could give us a ride to the liquor store, which he never really found very funny.

She had to go. I think to like to do modest time, like weekend time. You ever have a friend get du I'd have to do weekend jail. Uh No, I hang around with a higher Oh do you? Is that how you hang around with at the gas station? A buddy of mine got a dui managed to figure out a way to go to jail on the weekends, so we'd always pick him up on Sunday and ask him if he could give us a ride to the liquor store, which he never really found very funny.

We gotta take a break, so we get a taste test going here, Luke, all right, what do you know? You gotta jump in with something else here?

We gotta take a break, so we get a taste test going here, Luke, all right, what do you know? You gotta jump in with something else here?

What do you got? All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna break in on that. Oh, here we go take one of those. I like how you're breezing past any of my stories of significance. Oh well, you know you get so anal. I gotta get to my other job. I gotta get it. Look, someone have bills to pay.

What do you got? All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna break in on that. Oh, here we go take one of those. I like how you're breezing past any of my stories of significance. Oh well, you know you get so anal. I gotta get to my other job. I gotta get it. Look, someone have bills to pay.

Some of us take days off from their other job to be in order to do this show.

Some of us take days off from their other job to be in order to do this show.

Take the days off that I have.

Take the days off that I have.

All right, all right, this is Look, I'm not a Belgian guy. We've been down this road before.

All right, all right, this is Look, I'm not a Belgian guy. We've been down this road before.

You'll like this one.

You'll like this one.

I've I've had this many times. It's freaking fantastic.

I've I've had this many times. It's freaking fantastic.

Yeah, it's good. All right. What do you think? Give us the review, give us the old.

Yeah, it's good. All right. What do you think? Give us the review, give us the old.

And I know that you know, five years ago this was the top of the line for that category. Since then it's past. But it gives me the fields, all right.

And I know that you know, five years ago this was the top of the line for that category. Since then it's past. But it gives me the fields, all right.

On the inside, you have a little straw color that it comes in. Looks like piss, but that's fine. What does your piss look like? You want to know? All right?

On the inside, you have a little straw color that it comes in. Looks like piss, but that's fine. What does your piss look like? You want to know? All right?

Where are we on with you?

Where are we on with you?

What's your number one?

What's your number one?

What's your moment of the year in twenty nineteen?

What's your moment of the year in twenty nineteen?

I think I think my number one? And I think you might agree with this because it's true in sports, but it's also true out of sports. Twenty nineteen was the year that the streaming wars became official. You have Netflix, HBO now, Slash HBO Go. You have what's coming Peacock, that's a real streaming service that's coming. But you already had Netflix, Apple Plus came on board. Plus we know on the sports side of things, the two big competitors. Of course, by the way, Flow Sports is kind of hanging out there. But the real two big dogs, they are kind of hanging out there. They wrestling. They're kind of dead right. They had DCU United rights and any what says them about dc United. But the two big ones are to Zone and ESPN Plus. Let me say two things I think most folks get wrong about this debate. One about Dezone. Ninety percent of de Zone's business is outside of the United States, and they've even said they've even said, you cannot compete in any market, whether it's the United States or any other one, unless you've got top tier rights. There's a lot of money that they have put into boxing. But eventually, here's my belief, that money is going to get spent on Premiere one hundred rights fees, and a lot of the mine they've been putting into boxing is going to con.

I think I think my number one? And I think you might agree with this because it's true in sports, but it's also true out of sports. Twenty nineteen was the year that the streaming wars became official. You have Netflix, HBO now, Slash HBO Go. You have what's coming Peacock, that's a real streaming service that's coming. But you already had Netflix, Apple Plus came on board. Plus we know on the sports side of things, the two big competitors. Of course, by the way, Flow Sports is kind of hanging out there. But the real two big dogs, they are kind of hanging out there. They wrestling. They're kind of dead right. They had DCU United rights and any what says them about dc United. But the two big ones are to Zone and ESPN Plus. Let me say two things I think most folks get wrong about this debate. One about Dezone. Ninety percent of de Zone's business is outside of the United States, and they've even said they've even said, you cannot compete in any market, whether it's the United States or any other one, unless you've got top tier rights. There's a lot of money that they have put into boxing. But eventually, here's my belief, that money is going to get spent on Premiere one hundred rights fees, and a lot of the mine they've been putting into boxing is going to con.

Boxing is their gateway drug to be able to get into the US sports market because there's no leagues. Really, there's no organization you can pick and choose, grab a promoter. So I'll give his own credit, they had a grade twenty nineteen. I didn't think they were the network of the year necessarily in boxing, but they were close. They put on big fights that matter, They put on creative fights, you sort of if you're a fan of boxing, like well, I know Canelo, I know Triple G, I know Anthony Joshua. Well, all three of those are on the same network, So I give them the credit. It hasn't been a perfect year for them. I mean, are you a big YouTube guy against YouTube that.

Boxing is their gateway drug to be able to get into the US sports market because there's no leagues. Really, there's no organization you can pick and choose, grab a promoter. So I'll give his own credit, they had a grade twenty nineteen. I didn't think they were the network of the year necessarily in boxing, but they were close. They put on big fights that matter, They put on creative fights, you sort of if you're a fan of boxing, like well, I know Canelo, I know Triple G, I know Anthony Joshua. Well, all three of those are on the same network, So I give them the credit. It hasn't been a perfect year for them. I mean, are you a big YouTube guy against YouTube that.

Tells me that what they're doing is they're biding time for the big dogs.

Tells me that what they're doing is they're biding time for the big dogs.

But overall theory that this is just them making a splash. They're throwing money away in boxing to try to create a foothold while they're cashing in and around the world, and then eventually when they get those NFL rights or that whatever.

But overall theory that this is just them making a splash. They're throwing money away in boxing to try to create a foothold while they're cashing in and around the world, and then eventually when they get those NFL rights or that whatever.

Yeah, this is this is just them putting money in boxing as a showcase to the to the various leagues that when their rights, fees or rights opportunies become available, they can say, see how well we did with this. We had the number one boxer bah blah blah, blah blah, and then half that shit's going So.

Yeah, this is this is just them putting money in boxing as a showcase to the to the various leagues that when their rights, fees or rights opportunies become available, they can say, see how well we did with this. We had the number one boxer bah blah blah, blah blah, and then half that shit's going So.

Fans can enjoy it in the meantime because you're paying less for pay per view quality fights, But that bubble's gonna burst.

Fans can enjoy it in the meantime because you're paying less for pay per view quality fights, But that bubble's gonna burst.

Also, I don't ever hear John Skipper talking about like I hear him talking about with Kenelo does with their subscription fees and how he helped actually change their modeling because remember they gave the first fight away for free. They stopped doing that ship for the second and third fight completely. I never hear him anything about Bellatur ever. I wonder what happens with the money that they've given them. It'll be curious. If you party with them, you can get some answers. And then of course you had ESPN Plus. I don't part Oh yeah, it's funny, hardy har hard drug addiction.

Also, I don't ever hear John Skipper talking about like I hear him talking about with Kenelo does with their subscription fees and how he helped actually change their modeling because remember they gave the first fight away for free. They stopped doing that ship for the second and third fight completely. I never hear him anything about Bellatur ever. I wonder what happens with the money that they've given them. It'll be curious. If you party with them, you can get some answers. And then of course you had ESPN Plus. I don't part Oh yeah, it's funny, hardy har hard drug addiction.

And then of course either word you just stunt the growth of any any possible joke erection.

And then of course either word you just stunt the growth of any any possible joke erection.

You're just no. I just I don't. I'm not like the donks who hysterically laugh like hyenas at everything you say. You got to have a rule zinger for me to get a link lab. But it also brings us to ESPN Plus, which is very different because it's part of a larger sporting ecosystem. What are your impressions about what happens for ESPN Plus in twenty twenty.

You're just no. I just I don't. I'm not like the donks who hysterically laugh like hyenas at everything you say. You got to have a rule zinger for me to get a link lab. But it also brings us to ESPN Plus, which is very different because it's part of a larger sporting ecosystem. What are your impressions about what happens for ESPN Plus in twenty twenty.

From a combat sensor from a larger sense, larger sense, I don't know, Luke. I mean, look, they're not going to fail when you have that brand behind it. It's priced correctly well and they're really spread out across the board that there's a there's a look right now when youre looking at the zone, it's really combat or nothing. I know they've got some fringe things on the side, but ESPN has done a good job. It's sort of well rounding it and giving a lot of people a reason to get in on that.

From a combat sensor from a larger sense, larger sense, I don't know, Luke. I mean, look, they're not going to fail when you have that brand behind it. It's priced correctly well and they're really spread out across the board that there's a there's a look right now when youre looking at the zone, it's really combat or nothing. I know they've got some fringe things on the side, but ESPN has done a good job. It's sort of well rounding it and giving a lot of people a reason to get in on that.

And with that ESPN Disney engine behind it, you're not gonna.

And with that ESPN Disney engine behind it, you're not gonna.

Say that bodeling is the best because you have Hulu which is for adults, You've got Disney Plus which is ostensibly for children, everyone in between, and then you get the sports component as a bundle. Last thing I say about this, I said, people get two things wrong. One, dezones businesses largely outside the country. Second second is uh, there is It's not a zero some game, right There are gonna be some winners, there's gonna be some losers. But to me, it's like you ever seeing people like, oh, I subscribe to a bunch of magazines and then you check and they only subscribe to like three or four the ones who really say they subscribe. It's gonna be like that in.

Say that bodeling is the best because you have Hulu which is for adults, You've got Disney Plus which is ostensibly for children, everyone in between, and then you get the sports component as a bundle. Last thing I say about this, I said, people get two things wrong. One, dezones businesses largely outside the country. Second second is uh, there is It's not a zero some game, right There are gonna be some winners, there's gonna be some losers. But to me, it's like you ever seeing people like, oh, I subscribe to a bunch of magazines and then you check and they only subscribe to like three or four the ones who really say they subscribe. It's gonna be like that in.

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So exactly who who wins and who loses I don't know, but the idea there'll be one or two I don't.

So exactly who who wins and who loses I don't know, but the idea there'll be one or two I don't.

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