It is Monday, the ninth of September. Revee Reveley donks because it's time for Morning Combat. My name is Luke Thomas. I am the host of this program. Next to my co host, you know this man Bryan Campbell from CBS Sports. I'm Brian. Did you miss me?

It is Monday, the ninth of September. Revee Reveley donks because it's time for Morning Combat. My name is Luke Thomas. I am the host of this program. Next to my co host, you know this man Bryan Campbell from CBS Sports. I'm Brian. Did you miss me?

Uh yeah, I don't know if you noticed that. We almost wally pipped you out in there, the man in the damn hat.

Uh yeah, I don't know if you noticed that. We almost wally pipped you out in there, the man in the damn hat.

I like how the week I'm out, you have more technical difficulties and you can swing it, did Cattie.

I like how the week I'm out, you have more technical difficulties and you can swing it, did Cattie.

The show narrow barely got off the off the it was off the rails. We barely got it back on the track. It was more like Morning Combat tape delayed, not really in the morning. Hey, we made the show happen.

The show narrow barely got off the off the it was off the rails. We barely got it back on the track. It was more like Morning Combat tape delayed, not really in the morning. Hey, we made the show happen.

Actually, technically we don't even know if we're live right now. We're just assuming.

Actually, technically we don't even know if we're live right now. We're just assuming.

Yeah, being wise, we actually don't really know. But we're back.

Yeah, being wise, we actually don't really know. But we're back.

Man.

Man.

Here is the dome, back with the base. A couple weeks after jury, Dudy, how'd you survive there?

Here is the dome, back with the base. A couple weeks after jury, Dudy, how'd you survive there?

I managed to tell people how much I didn't want to do it. I won't say quite the terms that I used to get out of it. I got out of it twice. I got selected from Vardier. Then I told them why I couldn't do it. They're like, okay, go back to the quick.

I managed to tell people how much I didn't want to do it. I won't say quite the terms that I used to get out of it. I got out of it twice. I got selected from Vardier. Then I told them why I couldn't do it. They're like, okay, go back to the quick.

Did take them to figure out that you're actually a communist?

Did take them to figure out that you're actually a communist?

Well, I don't think communism is outright disqualifying at any event. And then they selected me for a second time in the afternoon. I got out of that one too, so I was pretty excited.

Well, I don't think communism is outright disqualifying at any event. And then they selected me for a second time in the afternoon. I got out of that one too, so I was pretty excited.

Did you take in the show this show while you were sitting there?

Did you take in the show this show while you were sitting there?

Well, but you mentioned that. I figured, hey, by my one thirty lunch break, I can go back and I can watch the show. And then there was no show, so I didn't actually watch him.

Well, but you mentioned that. I figured, hey, by my one thirty lunch break, I can go back and I can watch the show. And then there was no show, so I didn't actually watch him.

All right, Labor Day weekend is behind us. We're fired up. Go away on the lake story? Is it laborious? Did you knock anybody up?

All right, Labor Day weekend is behind us. We're fired up. Go away on the lake story? Is it laborious? Did you knock anybody up?

The most important thing in my life right now is to get sleep right because my kid is four months old, and so we finally got a sleep trained. I don't know how long it's gonna last, but right now in Shola got twelve hours a night. So the trick is I found every two hours she got to put her down. And then I got this thing called the sleep suit works like a charm.

The most important thing in my life right now is to get sleep right because my kid is four months old, and so we finally got a sleep trained. I don't know how long it's gonna last, but right now in Shola got twelve hours a night. So the trick is I found every two hours she got to put her down. And then I got this thing called the sleep suit works like a charm.

The sleep suit. Is that like a straight jacket for children?

The sleep suit. Is that like a straight jacket for children?

Well, isn't it? Isn't that what a swaddle is? This is a straight jacket for kids, right in a way anyway. So the point being is I didn't go anywhere because most important is keep her on schedule. I did watch UFC two forty two. This is true story at a baby shower. I had to go to a baby shower, and I'm like, here's the deal. I'm not going unless there's the fights on. And the person who owned the home bought the thing, so I actually got to watch all of there except the come main and man, I watch.

Well, isn't it? Isn't that what a swaddle is? This is a straight jacket for kids, right in a way anyway. So the point being is I didn't go anywhere because most important is keep her on schedule. I did watch UFC two forty two. This is true story at a baby shower. I had to go to a baby shower, and I'm like, here's the deal. I'm not going unless there's the fights on. And the person who owned the home bought the thing, so I actually got to watch all of there except the come main and man, I watch.

We'll have time later in the show. I'd love to hear parenting tips from a guy who who plays dying animals around the house as the kids just grown up.

We'll have time later in the show. I'd love to hear parenting tips from a guy who who plays dying animals around the house as the kids just grown up.

My daughter's first concert, this is true story in when she was in utero was dying fetus. That is not an exaggeration. I took my pregnant wife to a dying fetus country.

My daughter's first concert, this is true story in when she was in utero was dying fetus. That is not an exaggeration. I took my pregnant wife to a dying fetus country.

She born inside of swimming pool like the cover of Hirvana.

She born inside of swimming pool like the cover of Hirvana.

Never mind, no, no, all natural sibling memorial. All right, Ready to get this start.

Never mind, no, no, all natural sibling memorial. All right, Ready to get this start.

Gross, let's talk mixed Martin to get this story I like to I like to tea this week though.

Gross, let's talk mixed Martin to get this story I like to I like to tea this week though.

That's right. Son shout outs to Jamie Josta from Hate Breed that you can get this on the hate Breed website. People always ask about it. Blood Sport Top five martial arts movies.

That's right. Son shout outs to Jamie Josta from Hate Breed that you can get this on the hate Breed website. People always ask about it. Blood Sport Top five martial arts movies.

You can't not. I wouldn't put it in my personal pace, but you can't. You can't say anything against it.

You can't not. I wouldn't put it in my personal pace, but you can't. You can't say anything against it.

It's too iconic.

It's too iconic.

If it's number one for you, it's so damn iconic and so damn entertaining.

If it's number one for you, it's so damn iconic and so damn entertaining.

You know, I wouldn't put number one, but it's up there. All right, let's get it going.

You know, I wouldn't put number one, but it's up there. All right, let's get it going.

You know you're not gonna give me the green light on a pitbull right now. I mean I think that, uh.

You know you're not gonna give me the green light on a pitbull right now. I mean I think that, uh.

Look at that. I think that before we get this started, how did you get that shirt?

Look at that. I think that before we get this started, how did you get that shirt?

Well, I acquired it. But I think that she's kind of like my spirit animal. She's kind of a mascot for this show in the way she comes into the ring to do two things the cage, right, spit hot, truth and bang. And that's kind of what we do in this show. We're not playing up to any corporate sponsors, we're not protecting anything. We bring the damn truth, right. This is a show with stars who don't need to act like stars. Bro, if you don't want producers in the video, come to Morning Combat. That's what I'm saying out there.

Well, I acquired it. But I think that she's kind of like my spirit animal. She's kind of a mascot for this show in the way she comes into the ring to do two things the cage, right, spit hot, truth and bang. And that's kind of what we do in this show. We're not playing up to any corporate sponsors, we're not protecting anything. We bring the damn truth, right. This is a show with stars who don't need to act like stars. Bro, if you don't want producers in the video, come to Morning Combat. That's what I'm saying out there.

If having corporate sponsors meant I got a raise, I would have all the corporate spot I'd be like a NASCAR logo in this bitch.

If having corporate sponsors meant I got a raise, I would have all the corporate spot I'd be like a NASCAR logo in this bitch.

Trying to keep a real on this piece.

Trying to keep a real on this piece.

All right, let's get this going. So you c two forty two. Over the weekend, habib Nurmaga made off what do you want to say? Easily defending his UFC lightweight title against now former interim champion Dustin Poire, winning a third round rear naked choke Brian. The question has become at twenty eight to oh who on earth can beat this man? Here's what I was thinking about, and I dove into this when you so rudely interrupted me during Morning Combat dissected, which.

All right, let's get this going. So you c two forty two. Over the weekend, habib Nurmaga made off what do you want to say? Easily defending his UFC lightweight title against now former interim champion Dustin Poire, winning a third round rear naked choke Brian. The question has become at twenty eight to oh who on earth can beat this man? Here's what I was thinking about, and I dove into this when you so rudely interrupted me during Morning Combat dissected, which.

Oh yeah, sorry, Professor Salt and Pepper.

Oh yeah, sorry, Professor Salt and Pepper.

Just like walks in the room like Michigan J. Frogg strutting down the street, like what are you doing? All right, here's the point, though, the answer is twenty eight have tried, twenty eight have failed. It doesn't mean he's invincible. What it means is you'll know it's the same thing, Brian. They all try to say, I'm gonna resist the takedown, and then when he gets the takedown, I'm gonna try and stand up. And what happens They lose me a wrestling, they get submitted, or they get ground and pound to death. That is not a method that anyone can do. Dustin Pourier couldn't do it, Conor McGregor couldn't do it. How Felo Dosanjos couldn't do it, Michael Johnson couldn't do it, and the list goes on and on. For people to think that that's the way to beat him, it just isn't anymore. Somebody's got to try something different. Now. I don't know if Tony Ferguson's jiu jitsu is the way that it gets done. But here's what I do know that's different. Here's what I also KNOWE You've never got made off, never been knocked down, never even been cut. He's never even been cut. You mean to tell me that Tony slashing elbows couldn't get that done.

Just like walks in the room like Michigan J. Frogg strutting down the street, like what are you doing? All right, here's the point, though, the answer is twenty eight have tried, twenty eight have failed. It doesn't mean he's invincible. What it means is you'll know it's the same thing, Brian. They all try to say, I'm gonna resist the takedown, and then when he gets the takedown, I'm gonna try and stand up. And what happens They lose me a wrestling, they get submitted, or they get ground and pound to death. That is not a method that anyone can do. Dustin Pourier couldn't do it, Conor McGregor couldn't do it. How Felo Dosanjos couldn't do it, Michael Johnson couldn't do it, and the list goes on and on. For people to think that that's the way to beat him, it just isn't anymore. Somebody's got to try something different. Now. I don't know if Tony Ferguson's jiu jitsu is the way that it gets done. But here's what I do know that's different. Here's what I also KNOWE You've never got made off, never been knocked down, never even been cut. He's never even been cut. You mean to tell me that Tony slashing elbows couldn't get that done.

Here, all I'm saying Mat Dolly couldn't get him cut.

Here, all I'm saying Mat Dolly couldn't get him cut.

Exactly, The point being is I don't know exactly what beats him. Here's what I know what doesn't beat him. The same old game plan that every coach keeps trying to implement, doesn't Poarier. Brian is super talented.

Exactly, The point being is I don't know exactly what beats him. Here's what I know what doesn't beat him. The same old game plan that every coach keeps trying to implement, doesn't Poarier. Brian is super talented.

That's the whole look at this argument.

That's the whole look at this argument.

Last thing I'll say this, I'll toss the botania. I'm just pointing out if someone like doesn't Parier, who said he was well prepared, who's had forty fights, who's a black belt in jiu jitsu, if that's as close as he could come with that game plan, that's a failed game plan.

Last thing I'll say this, I'll toss the botania. I'm just pointing out if someone like doesn't Parier, who said he was well prepared, who's had forty fights, who's a black belt in jiu jitsu, if that's as close as he could come with that game plan, that's a failed game plan.

I love that you said twenty eight I've tried because it's the Floyd way Mayweather reference, because Habib is sort of entering Mayweather territory in here right, sucking the entertainment out of the fight. But I'm not using that as a negative to win on his own terms and win so dominantly and technically that I'm on the point that I go, Luke, maybe SALTMN Pepper professor has to get up right now? How does Habib do the voodoo that he do? Because what I'm watching is a man who just sticks to people. And it's not that I didn't predict him to win. It's not that I didn't think he could win, but win this dominantly on this level against a fighter you just nailed it in Pourier, who has willed himself and evolved to the super elite level. Would I have predicted it went down that way where each round, as soon as the first takedown happened, that round was over. No, I thought, if I still think in my heart Tony Ferguson's the only one, and we can shelf that discussion for five seconds, I really thought Pourier was out a point where he had the perfectly evolved and the variety in his striking game to be the type of guy who, yeah, he's gonna be taken down, but he's strong enough and big enough to get back up, and then he's gonna make it a fight, right, not one putch knock out power, but he's gonna chop, and he's gonna work. He's gonna like, he's gonna do those things. I never would have predicted that he'll be. Could could make him look like Pat Healy, could make him look like Camille Shallow Roos, could make him look like Darryl Horcher, and and like could just make this a plus fighter, and that's who Pourier kind of became. The last three or four fights really make him look average, and that speaks to it's not that I didn't know Habib was great, but he's getting greater by the day. He's evolving, even his striking, which I know he's you know, he's one dimensional, but as jose Son would say, there's so many dimensions inside that one dimension that he's insanely good. But the way that he sets up his takedowns and maybe he broke it down on the chalk board with some of those combinations upstairs, agains right just exactly l on brilliant, to the point that, yes, we need to have that conversation. Who out there has a shot at doing this right now outside of the typical bad luck that can happen in MMA one shot, Outside of Habib, who I never would guess by the way tanking himself and not taking training seriously, he doesn't seem a candidate for that. He seems like an absolute machine. Outside of that, Now that he's figured out this level of prime, it's Tony Ferguson and it's nobody else lives.

I love that you said twenty eight I've tried because it's the Floyd way Mayweather reference, because Habib is sort of entering Mayweather territory in here right, sucking the entertainment out of the fight. But I'm not using that as a negative to win on his own terms and win so dominantly and technically that I'm on the point that I go, Luke, maybe SALTMN Pepper professor has to get up right now? How does Habib do the voodoo that he do? Because what I'm watching is a man who just sticks to people. And it's not that I didn't predict him to win. It's not that I didn't think he could win, but win this dominantly on this level against a fighter you just nailed it in Pourier, who has willed himself and evolved to the super elite level. Would I have predicted it went down that way where each round, as soon as the first takedown happened, that round was over. No, I thought, if I still think in my heart Tony Ferguson's the only one, and we can shelf that discussion for five seconds, I really thought Pourier was out a point where he had the perfectly evolved and the variety in his striking game to be the type of guy who, yeah, he's gonna be taken down, but he's strong enough and big enough to get back up, and then he's gonna make it a fight, right, not one putch knock out power, but he's gonna chop, and he's gonna work. He's gonna like, he's gonna do those things. I never would have predicted that he'll be. Could could make him look like Pat Healy, could make him look like Camille Shallow Roos, could make him look like Darryl Horcher, and and like could just make this a plus fighter, and that's who Pourier kind of became. The last three or four fights really make him look average, and that speaks to it's not that I didn't know Habib was great, but he's getting greater by the day. He's evolving, even his striking, which I know he's you know, he's one dimensional, but as jose Son would say, there's so many dimensions inside that one dimension that he's insanely good. But the way that he sets up his takedowns and maybe he broke it down on the chalk board with some of those combinations upstairs, agains right just exactly l on brilliant, to the point that, yes, we need to have that conversation. Who out there has a shot at doing this right now outside of the typical bad luck that can happen in MMA one shot, Outside of Habib, who I never would guess by the way tanking himself and not taking training seriously, he doesn't seem a candidate for that. He seems like an absolute machine. Outside of that, Now that he's figured out this level of prime, it's Tony Ferguson and it's nobody else lives.

So here's what I was thinking, about you go back and watch the fight. What was the only time Habib was in any kind of danger, any kind of danger? Two points the guillotines. No, the two punches to open round two. Yeah, I think that's overstating a little bit. They hurt, but they did.

So here's what I was thinking, about you go back and watch the fight. What was the only time Habib was in any kind of danger, any kind of danger? Two points the guillotines. No, the two punches to open round two. Yeah, I think that's overstating a little bit. They hurt, but they did.

He took steps back in reset and that's not.

He took steps back in reset and that's not.

But that's a boxing consideration on an MMA one.

But that's a boxing consideration on an MMA one.

All right, but let's don't act like he wasn't.

All right, but let's don't act like he wasn't.

Yeah, he got stung, He got got stung. Yeah, but he was in danger. Here's the difference when those guillotines were on that that Remember Dustin applied it once twice and then three times. The second of the three was the closest. What did you notice about Habib's behavior? He went to a hip, He actually rolled, He rolled like a fish. Uh, just completely over. My point being is you can't wrestle him that way. But the jiu jitsu application, the guillotine choke made Habib choose to go down that way. No again, this is not me saying jiu jitsu beat Sabib, or even Tony's jiu jitsu bet Sabib. It's me saying, well, that's gotta be a lot better than just trying to slowly build your way back up against the guy whose game is predicated on you doing just that very thing. You gotta shake it up. Maybe Justin Gai Chee's the guy. Maybe Justin Gaygee can go in there and stop the take down and then just bruise him up and man again, never been knocked down, never been. Someone's got it. Someone's gotta break new grounds here, Tony and Justin too wild Man. I think to at least con.

Yeah, he got stung, He got got stung. Yeah, but he was in danger. Here's the difference when those guillotines were on that that Remember Dustin applied it once twice and then three times. The second of the three was the closest. What did you notice about Habib's behavior? He went to a hip, He actually rolled, He rolled like a fish. Uh, just completely over. My point being is you can't wrestle him that way. But the jiu jitsu application, the guillotine choke made Habib choose to go down that way. No again, this is not me saying jiu jitsu beat Sabib, or even Tony's jiu jitsu bet Sabib. It's me saying, well, that's gotta be a lot better than just trying to slowly build your way back up against the guy whose game is predicated on you doing just that very thing. You gotta shake it up. Maybe Justin Gai Chee's the guy. Maybe Justin Gaygee can go in there and stop the take down and then just bruise him up and man again, never been knocked down, never been. Someone's got it. Someone's gotta break new grounds here, Tony and Justin too wild Man. I think to at least con.

Wildman is the key. And that's why the Floyd Mayweather comparison in this case actually makes sense for two reasons. One because Mayweather started making it look so easy that people stopped being able to understand what they're watching. Right, It's just sort of like, oh, it's boring, and look what he's doing out there. He's not doing anything. No, he's doing absolute subtle brilliance and that what is what Habib's doing. But the other thing on that is Pourier was almost in the end he's great, but he's basically great, right everything he was going to be able to bring in the end. Obib's got that studied, he's got it scientifically. How he's going to break it apart? Same thing we said about Floyd's second half as a Walter White pa per view star. If you come at him traditionally right handed one two, he knows how to break that down in his sleep. He'll need two rounds at most, and he's got you figured out and he's pot shotting you the rest of the fight. The reason why Tony Ferguson is the only guy remaining is because he potentially is that Marcos Madonna for Floyd, even though he's much more technically solidar than twice. But the point about the first Madonna fight and the reason why he's able to push that to a majority decision and be the closest anyone since Castill to beating Floyd, is that it was wild. It was from left field. There was nothing traditional about what he was doing. Habib is almost on a Floyd level where he has beaten the game. The chessboard is his. He knows a counter for every single move. The only way you're gonna have a chance is to take that chess board and flip it upside down, right. And that's why Ferguson, with the mixture of the ground game with the psychotic mentality to love pain and walk into it and be fine in that fire. He's like Shad rats me shots and Ed begingal. He'll live in the flames. He'll be there. It's no problem for him. And you mix in the variety of striking. That's the fight. The fifth time will be the charm. Do nothing, do not pass go but make that fight UFC. Because this on paper, I can't remember a time for the hardcorees that there was a better on paper matchup. Forget pay per view buys, forget celebrities, forget grudges xes versus o's. This is a dream.

Wildman is the key. And that's why the Floyd Mayweather comparison in this case actually makes sense for two reasons. One because Mayweather started making it look so easy that people stopped being able to understand what they're watching. Right, It's just sort of like, oh, it's boring, and look what he's doing out there. He's not doing anything. No, he's doing absolute subtle brilliance and that what is what Habib's doing. But the other thing on that is Pourier was almost in the end he's great, but he's basically great, right everything he was going to be able to bring in the end. Obib's got that studied, he's got it scientifically. How he's going to break it apart? Same thing we said about Floyd's second half as a Walter White pa per view star. If you come at him traditionally right handed one two, he knows how to break that down in his sleep. He'll need two rounds at most, and he's got you figured out and he's pot shotting you the rest of the fight. The reason why Tony Ferguson is the only guy remaining is because he potentially is that Marcos Madonna for Floyd, even though he's much more technically solidar than twice. But the point about the first Madonna fight and the reason why he's able to push that to a majority decision and be the closest anyone since Castill to beating Floyd, is that it was wild. It was from left field. There was nothing traditional about what he was doing. Habib is almost on a Floyd level where he has beaten the game. The chessboard is his. He knows a counter for every single move. The only way you're gonna have a chance is to take that chess board and flip it upside down, right. And that's why Ferguson, with the mixture of the ground game with the psychotic mentality to love pain and walk into it and be fine in that fire. He's like Shad rats me shots and Ed begingal. He'll live in the flames. He'll be there. It's no problem for him. And you mix in the variety of striking. That's the fight. The fifth time will be the charm. Do nothing, do not pass go but make that fight UFC. Because this on paper, I can't remember a time for the hardcorees that there was a better on paper matchup. Forget pay per view buys, forget celebrities, forget grudges xes versus o's. This is a dream.

And I would also add Tony Ferguson is a guy who looks for offense everywhere, from his guard, from his elbows, off his back. Standing takes risks why he's fan friendly, but it's also why he can overwhelm. He gets hit a little bit, but then he just drills right through and finds a way to score no matter what. And if Abbe shoots in, he scores up that or secures the and a Kona choke. Again. I don't know if that will win, but that's got to be a much better option.

And I would also add Tony Ferguson is a guy who looks for offense everywhere, from his guard, from his elbows, off his back. Standing takes risks why he's fan friendly, but it's also why he can overwhelm. He gets hit a little bit, but then he just drills right through and finds a way to score no matter what. And if Abbe shoots in, he scores up that or secures the and a Kona choke. Again. I don't know if that will win, but that's got to be a much better option.

Well, so quickly Habib was picking up Pourier's patterns. He caught that second kick. First kick was a nice inside leg, kicking him firm. He started catching kicks. He was basically taking away Pourier's pass. To setting something up, Pourier had to go into sort of if I'm gonna have any offense earlier on too, I'm gonna have to bite down and just wing.

Well, so quickly Habib was picking up Pourier's patterns. He caught that second kick. First kick was a nice inside leg, kicking him firm. He started catching kicks. He was basically taking away Pourier's pass. To setting something up, Pourier had to go into sort of if I'm gonna have any offense earlier on too, I'm gonna have to bite down and just wing.

And that's what's the craziness against Habibe. Because also Habib people WI won't admit this. He'll oblige you a little bit with the crazy.

And that's what's the craziness against Habibe. Because also Habib people WI won't admit this. He'll oblige you a little bit with the crazy.

But the point of what I'm saying here is Ferguson, Jam Ferguson has the ability with the angles and the awkwardness and just the unorthodox ways where he's gonna give He's gonna Givehibbe pause. Well, he's not gonna be able to enter the traditional pass that he wanted to go for the takedown.

But the point of what I'm saying here is Ferguson, Jam Ferguson has the ability with the angles and the awkwardness and just the unorthodox ways where he's gonna give He's gonna Givehibbe pause. Well, he's not gonna be able to enter the traditional pass that he wanted to go for the takedown.

I suspect. I suspect that early on, Habib will take him down no problem. Even though Tony has great wrestling, it's that what happens when Tony starts to bust him up. Underneath what happens when Tony sent it up an and a kind of choke, and you saw the same kind of escape that he had to hit against us, and we'll have to hit against him and makes him rethink this again. It's separating contact again, any kind of contact with Habib is a liability for his opponent. If you can invert that relationship, and I think Tony has a chance of doing it, a chance it gets more interesting. Here's the question for you. Habib after the fight said he thinks he should be ranked pound for pound number one. Should I got two words for you.

I suspect. I suspect that early on, Habib will take him down no problem. Even though Tony has great wrestling, it's that what happens when Tony starts to bust him up. Underneath what happens when Tony sent it up an and a kind of choke, and you saw the same kind of escape that he had to hit against us, and we'll have to hit against him and makes him rethink this again. It's separating contact again, any kind of contact with Habib is a liability for his opponent. If you can invert that relationship, and I think Tony has a chance of doing it, a chance it gets more interesting. Here's the question for you. Habib after the fight said he thinks he should be ranked pound for pound number one. Should I got two words for you.

Let me hear where's my Isocam Crownham. Those are my two wow'volved who we thought he was in the end and it's full on dominance. And there was a thing that started to happen when Habib came back from the knee injury started putting wins together where some people started giving those whispers Luke that we could be watching a greatest of all time here, not the greatest, but a greatest, a guy that could sit at that table of four or five right. Not saying he's there yet, but I'm saying is he needed those marquee wins to really have fuel in that conversation when you are packaging together what he has now the dominance of the Barbosa when the dominance of the McGregor when you mix in the Ayaquinto's and the RDAs. And now you do this to Dustin Poier when he's this red hot when he enters on a four fight win streak in which Poorier was trying to convince reporters that if he had beaten Habib, he would be the greatest lightweight in UFC history. And at first you go, come on, does everybody have to be the ghost? And then number two, you look at that streak and you go, the guy may have a point. So now that Habib is doing this and it's so damn dominant, how is he not poumpfer pound number one I had. I was holding firm on John Jones since the comeback. But here's the difference. Lightweight is historically deep and dangerous right now. It's deeper than prime light heavyweight was ten years ago when you had all those celebrity names and that title was bouncing back and forth from Forest Griffin to Sugar Rashad to Rampage and all that. It's deeper, and John Jones is operating right now kind of a shallow pool at light heavyweight, and his fights are closer, and maybe he's shifting in his early thirties to be a more efficient style will not take as many chances, but that shift is real, and what Habib is doing right now is full on greatness. I'm not ready to crown him beyond pomp for pound king at the moment, but he is showing you a sperrit and a flare at twenty eight and zero that they are preparing a chair for him at that table as that very elite table of the greatest that ever have done this game. Yes, he's got a little bit more to do. This is not hyperbole. This is not all everybody's got to be. This is the greatest podcast through five minutes a minute. I don't know, but the whole point is like, this is what we're seeing is yes and yes, Okay.

Let me hear where's my Isocam Crownham. Those are my two wow'volved who we thought he was in the end and it's full on dominance. And there was a thing that started to happen when Habib came back from the knee injury started putting wins together where some people started giving those whispers Luke that we could be watching a greatest of all time here, not the greatest, but a greatest, a guy that could sit at that table of four or five right. Not saying he's there yet, but I'm saying is he needed those marquee wins to really have fuel in that conversation when you are packaging together what he has now the dominance of the Barbosa when the dominance of the McGregor when you mix in the Ayaquinto's and the RDAs. And now you do this to Dustin Poier when he's this red hot when he enters on a four fight win streak in which Poorier was trying to convince reporters that if he had beaten Habib, he would be the greatest lightweight in UFC history. And at first you go, come on, does everybody have to be the ghost? And then number two, you look at that streak and you go, the guy may have a point. So now that Habib is doing this and it's so damn dominant, how is he not poumpfer pound number one I had. I was holding firm on John Jones since the comeback. But here's the difference. Lightweight is historically deep and dangerous right now. It's deeper than prime light heavyweight was ten years ago when you had all those celebrity names and that title was bouncing back and forth from Forest Griffin to Sugar Rashad to Rampage and all that. It's deeper, and John Jones is operating right now kind of a shallow pool at light heavyweight, and his fights are closer, and maybe he's shifting in his early thirties to be a more efficient style will not take as many chances, but that shift is real, and what Habib is doing right now is full on greatness. I'm not ready to crown him beyond pomp for pound king at the moment, but he is showing you a sperrit and a flare at twenty eight and zero that they are preparing a chair for him at that table as that very elite table of the greatest that ever have done this game. Yes, he's got a little bit more to do. This is not hyperbole. This is not all everybody's got to be. This is the greatest podcast through five minutes a minute. I don't know, but the whole point is like, this is what we're seeing is yes and yes, Okay.

Here's what I would say. The reason why the Tony Ferguson fight is so important is because one that would be his at least perceived top rival. To this point. You could have said MacGregor before, but now that that's over, Tony still hanging out there waiting in the wings. And moreover, you've got that win streak dating back to twenty twelve for Tony. You've got it dating back to literally his pro debut for Habib. There's never been a fight with two lightweights as accomplished as this in the history of MMA. Literally, it's never happened. There's no historical antecedent to Tony Ferguson versus Abe. Never got made up. It stands apart from everything. So you beat that guy, you begin to get into territory where if he's not pound for pound, now he'll be pound for pound.

Here's what I would say. The reason why the Tony Ferguson fight is so important is because one that would be his at least perceived top rival. To this point. You could have said MacGregor before, but now that that's over, Tony still hanging out there waiting in the wings. And moreover, you've got that win streak dating back to twenty twelve for Tony. You've got it dating back to literally his pro debut for Habib. There's never been a fight with two lightweights as accomplished as this in the history of MMA. Literally, it's never happened. There's no historical antecedent to Tony Ferguson versus Abe. Never got made up. It stands apart from everything. So you beat that guy, you begin to get into territory where if he's not pound for pound, now he'll be pound for pound.

Then how was he not that?

Then how was he not that?

I don't The thing is, I was really thinking about this. Here's the one difference. John Jones came into the game when you had noted it before. There was a celebrity division, and you're you're absolutely right. For a time two o five was the division in MMA and in Pride, in UFC and they, and then when it all emerged and John came in and just retired everybody, he had the opportunity to build off that celebrity names. Now he beat all those guys Farren square. My point being is letwit still little bit newer. Remember they got rid of it after Thompson knocked out Eve Edwards, and they brought it back and he did get the McGregor thing which is big. The point is Habib didn't come in with the same kind of circumstance, so it's not.

I don't The thing is, I was really thinking about this. Here's the one difference. John Jones came into the game when you had noted it before. There was a celebrity division, and you're you're absolutely right. For a time two o five was the division in MMA and in Pride, in UFC and they, and then when it all emerged and John came in and just retired everybody, he had the opportunity to build off that celebrity names. Now he beat all those guys Farren square. My point being is letwit still little bit newer. Remember they got rid of it after Thompson knocked out Eve Edwards, and they brought it back and he did get the McGregor thing which is big. The point is Habib didn't come in with the same kind of circumstance, so it's not.

Apple about what's going on, right. I understand though, if here's like John Jones can be the goat without being the pump for pound king at the moment.

Apple about what's going on, right. I understand though, if here's like John Jones can be the goat without being the pump for pound king at the moment.

I understand. What I would say is, if you wanted to argue who b was number one, I really wouldn't. I wouldn't I would not go to the mat against it. You know, I'm still partial to Jones being number one, But the one thing I can say is I don't think I've ever seen an MMA grappler like Habib number come made off. I'm not telling you has the best submissions or even outright the best wrestling. What I can say is there is nobody, nobody in the history of the sport, in any weight class ever, that combines takedowns with passing, threat with control with grounded pound and submissions as effortlessly, comprehensively and fluidly.

I understand. What I would say is, if you wanted to argue who b was number one, I really wouldn't. I wouldn't I would not go to the mat against it. You know, I'm still partial to Jones being number one, But the one thing I can say is I don't think I've ever seen an MMA grappler like Habib number come made off. I'm not telling you has the best submissions or even outright the best wrestling. What I can say is there is nobody, nobody in the history of the sport, in any weight class ever, that combines takedowns with passing, threat with control with grounded pound and submissions as effortlessly, comprehensively and fluidly.

And then you have these dangibles of the crazy mentality of the work ethic and all those things, of the ability to come back, by the way, after the two years for the knee injury, after getting screwed around and for to finally get a title opportunity after missing time when he got sick ahead of the Ferguson fight. Always sort of with Ramadan, can't get on a consistent fight basis, this fight coming in on an eleven month lyoff. None of that ever matters to him because he's so mentally tough it's insane. I don't like to put you over that often. I'm not a big morning combat dissected fan. Probably a good show, not enough Campbell on it for me. This week, I gotta find out what makes her be so good. Because you speak a little bit more of this nerdsass than I do. I'm gonna pour it all over myself.

And then you have these dangibles of the crazy mentality of the work ethic and all those things, of the ability to come back, by the way, after the two years for the knee injury, after getting screwed around and for to finally get a title opportunity after missing time when he got sick ahead of the Ferguson fight. Always sort of with Ramadan, can't get on a consistent fight basis, this fight coming in on an eleven month lyoff. None of that ever matters to him because he's so mentally tough it's insane. I don't like to put you over that often. I'm not a big morning combat dissected fan. Probably a good show, not enough Campbell on it for me. This week, I gotta find out what makes her be so good. Because you speak a little bit more of this nerdsass than I do. I'm gonna pour it all over myself.

So here's the last question about this, and we'll move on to the BMF tititle, which I can't wait. It's about Connor McGregor. You know, I'm dead serious when he said this. He tweets after the fight, give me my rematch in Moscow, and I'll like, why does he want to fight Dustin Parier in Moscow? That doesn't make any sense? Oh wait, he means he should fight Habib And.

So here's the last question about this, and we'll move on to the BMF tititle, which I can't wait. It's about Connor McGregor. You know, I'm dead serious when he said this. He tweets after the fight, give me my rematch in Moscow, and I'll like, why does he want to fight Dustin Parier in Moscow? That doesn't make any sense? Oh wait, he means he should fight Habib And.

Yeah, let's not move on too quick here.

Yeah, let's not move on too quick here.

Let's talk business I don't you ready, I don't where does Connor fit in the light way picture. I heard what Daniel White had to say, which is they're gonna try and make the Tony Ferguson fight, and there for whatever reason that doesn't fight.

Let's talk business I don't you ready, I don't where does Connor fit in the light way picture. I heard what Daniel White had to say, which is they're gonna try and make the Tony Ferguson fight, and there for whatever reason that doesn't fight.

Cynical Luke when he heard that, guy was like, Oh, we're gonna try to We're gonna try to low ball Tony Ferguson. And when he doesn't accept it, Connor get up in the ball.

Cynical Luke when he heard that, guy was like, Oh, we're gonna try to We're gonna try to low ball Tony Ferguson. And when he doesn't accept it, Connor get up in the ball.

He's like, yeah, Connor, you know it makes a lot of sense. No, actually doesn't. It makes no sense whatsoever. It doesn't make any sense. The guy lost comprehensively, cleanly, fully, there's no denying it. You could say, oh, he only threw one punch in the first round. You know how many punches he landed Habib did in the third run against Partier one. You're gonna tell me that's not part of overall dominant strategy. It's a dumb argument. You can't take it seriously. And I don't I understand he wants another crack at it. I'm sure Dustin wants another crack at it. I'm sure Healey and dosan Jos and Johnson, they all want another cracks aedit, but you don't rate not right now. So he has to get back in there as far as I'm concerned and get another win. Now, the question is, well against two and I don't know, I don't know the winner of Gaytchee Seroni. Maybe that's something you can do. Here's the point being, here's the one I get. I get what the UFC might try to do. They're gonna try to make this fight with Tony whatever that's supposed to mean, low ball not low ball, and if that falls through, oh, they only have a rematch between two now the bigger stars, if not the two biggest stars in the lightweight division, one of the biggest stars in the sport. They're gonna make money either way, so to them, I think the chances of Connor getting a rematch are kind of high.

He's like, yeah, Connor, you know it makes a lot of sense. No, actually doesn't. It makes no sense whatsoever. It doesn't make any sense. The guy lost comprehensively, cleanly, fully, there's no denying it. You could say, oh, he only threw one punch in the first round. You know how many punches he landed Habib did in the third run against Partier one. You're gonna tell me that's not part of overall dominant strategy. It's a dumb argument. You can't take it seriously. And I don't I understand he wants another crack at it. I'm sure Dustin wants another crack at it. I'm sure Healey and dosan Jos and Johnson, they all want another cracks aedit, but you don't rate not right now. So he has to get back in there as far as I'm concerned and get another win. Now, the question is, well against two and I don't know, I don't know the winner of Gaytchee Seroni. Maybe that's something you can do. Here's the point being, here's the one I get. I get what the UFC might try to do. They're gonna try to make this fight with Tony whatever that's supposed to mean, low ball not low ball, and if that falls through, oh, they only have a rematch between two now the bigger stars, if not the two biggest stars in the lightweight division, one of the biggest stars in the sport. They're gonna make money either way, so to them, I think the chances of Connor getting a rematch are kind of high.

But fortunately they are kind of high.

But fortunately they are kind of high.

But the point is doesn't deserve it, period, No.

But the point is doesn't deserve it, period, No.

It does not deserve it. This is a lottery ticket that they need to put in the jar and preserve it right now, because if you run Connor BB two back out, you're doing it for the money, You're doing it for the business, and you're gonna get Caddy shack too. You're gonna get a seql that bombs because I don't think you have the same level of fuel and hatred, and that's essentially what you'd be selling. You're not selling the hope of a competitive fight, Luke, You're selling let's do part do two, part deh of essentially this hatred. Here's the thing though, how people doesn't want to be that guy anymore. Whether you thought he went over bor or not. On Saturday in Abu Dhabi, he put over a baby face turn like we have never seen in a while, puts on dustin shirt, respect.

It does not deserve it. This is a lottery ticket that they need to put in the jar and preserve it right now, because if you run Connor BB two back out, you're doing it for the money, You're doing it for the business, and you're gonna get Caddy shack too. You're gonna get a seql that bombs because I don't think you have the same level of fuel and hatred, and that's essentially what you'd be selling. You're not selling the hope of a competitive fight, Luke, You're selling let's do part do two, part deh of essentially this hatred. Here's the thing though, how people doesn't want to be that guy anymore. Whether you thought he went over bor or not. On Saturday in Abu Dhabi, he put over a baby face turn like we have never seen in a while, puts on dustin shirt, respect.

Cog in the audience.

Cog in the audience.

I'm like, I get it, but you know talks about I want to fight GSPNX and I want to do in Africa and give away the money. My point is this, if you book the second Habib Connor fight, you are telling Abiba as a promotion. For this fight to really work, we can need you to be foreign villain again. When habibis had the opportunity on Saturday to kind of become global superstar and by the way numbers internally, CBS Sports our coverage of him through the roof for an afternoon fight, Habib got the Connor rub and he's making it happen worldwide. So if you're staying on UFC and even Disney, who's probably at that table when you're talking about the larger picture, keep Connor in that jar and puff him back up. Give him Frankie Edgar in a marketable fight in which he can't and which he can and probably should win.

I'm like, I get it, but you know talks about I want to fight GSPNX and I want to do in Africa and give away the money. My point is this, if you book the second Habib Connor fight, you are telling Abiba as a promotion. For this fight to really work, we can need you to be foreign villain again. When habibis had the opportunity on Saturday to kind of become global superstar and by the way numbers internally, CBS Sports our coverage of him through the roof for an afternoon fight, Habib got the Connor rub and he's making it happen worldwide. So if you're staying on UFC and even Disney, who's probably at that table when you're talking about the larger picture, keep Connor in that jar and puff him back up. Give him Frankie Edgar in a marketable fight in which he can't and which he can and probably should win.

And Justin Gatchee going after Connor on Twitter in a very ugly way. It's fine Justin to play the ugly game with him. Connor plays an ugly game we all know.

And Justin Gatchee going after Connor on Twitter in a very ugly way. It's fine Justin to play the ugly game with him. Connor plays an ugly game we all know.

Okay, So people that fight either I don't hate that fight out.

Okay, So people that fight either I don't hate that fight out.

Here's my point. You got to give someone who wants to get in the mud with him. Well, Justin Gage's that guy you had Habib at the press. Common say, this is a respect sport. You respect the jim, you clean it, you respect your training partners, you respect your coach. Whether you want to believe that or not, he does. He doesn't want to go back to that anymore. And it was ugly. Give him somebody else.

Here's my point. You got to give someone who wants to get in the mud with him. Well, Justin Gage's that guy you had Habib at the press. Common say, this is a respect sport. You respect the jim, you clean it, you respect your training partners, you respect your coach. Whether you want to believe that or not, he does. He doesn't want to go back to that anymore. And it was ugly. Give him somebody else.

Oh, by the way, Tony freaking Ferguson, if UFC runs back Connor in this rematch, you're cashing him out when you have a chance to revive him. You have a chance to build him back up. Here's the odd the truth there. Unless Habib retires after his next fight, him and Connor will fight again in some form because there's too much money. It is a lottery ticket sitting in a jar, just like the third d as Connor matches. You gotta repair that and build it back up. It's not rocket science. So in the meantime, bad luck has become good because if Habib Tony had already happened, and I know you could argue maybe it happened two or three times already, maybe this is the fourth time they're fighting, we'd be this excited. No, we never seen what this looked like. There's been four cases of bad luck. But those bad luck have built together a fight that now matters more than anything. It's now the most hardcore of hardcore fans fight, and it's for the world title, and Habib's still on beaten and Tony's got a twelve fight win streak. Don't screw that up. Go back to it, Go back to it all the way, go back to it hard and firm. And if you're UFC, why not roll the dice on what Habib's brand actually is right now. If he's going this far with respect and I'll donate the things, then give him the damn GSP fight. Let him become an absolute headlining, lovable superstar. Yeah, do don't drop that really out.

Oh, by the way, Tony freaking Ferguson, if UFC runs back Connor in this rematch, you're cashing him out when you have a chance to revive him. You have a chance to build him back up. Here's the odd the truth there. Unless Habib retires after his next fight, him and Connor will fight again in some form because there's too much money. It is a lottery ticket sitting in a jar, just like the third d as Connor matches. You gotta repair that and build it back up. It's not rocket science. So in the meantime, bad luck has become good because if Habib Tony had already happened, and I know you could argue maybe it happened two or three times already, maybe this is the fourth time they're fighting, we'd be this excited. No, we never seen what this looked like. There's been four cases of bad luck. But those bad luck have built together a fight that now matters more than anything. It's now the most hardcore of hardcore fans fight, and it's for the world title, and Habib's still on beaten and Tony's got a twelve fight win streak. Don't screw that up. Go back to it, Go back to it all the way, go back to it hard and firm. And if you're UFC, why not roll the dice on what Habib's brand actually is right now. If he's going this far with respect and I'll donate the things, then give him the damn GSP fight. Let him become an absolute headlining, lovable superstar. Yeah, do don't drop that really out.

Then, So then let's say GSP wins. Then he's already said explicitly til Robin Black this week or last week. Yeah, if they do that, I win. I'm gonna walk away because that'd be smart. Smart.

Then, So then let's say GSP wins. Then he's already said explicitly til Robin Black this week or last week. Yeah, if they do that, I win. I'm gonna walk away because that'd be smart. Smart.

I'll tell you what. He wouldn't walk away, he'd fight.

I'll tell you what. He wouldn't walk away, he'd fight.

Make it non title. I'm with you. Make it for a title, forget it all right. We got to move along because.

Make it non title. I'm with you. Make it for a title, forget it all right. We got to move along because.

You know, if they did that, then you'd get Connor an Tony, which one to beat either a.

You know, if they did that, then you'd get Connor an Tony, which one to beat either a.

Lot of good options, but the best option is as you know, Habi versus Tony. All right, here's another great option that has turned into a reality. Brian Campbell at MSG on November two, is gonna be the b MF title on the line, The Bad Mother, Can I say it? One time? Fucker title is gonna be on the line. Nate Diaz is gonna face Jorge Maswittal. I'm assuming at one seventy they haven't clarified that as far as I know have that it is okay. So it's gonna be one seventy. It canna be a Walterway title fight. I'll pitch to you here, Brian. Why is this so great?

Lot of good options, but the best option is as you know, Habi versus Tony. All right, here's another great option that has turned into a reality. Brian Campbell at MSG on November two, is gonna be the b MF title on the line, The Bad Mother, Can I say it? One time? Fucker title is gonna be on the line. Nate Diaz is gonna face Jorge Maswittal. I'm assuming at one seventy they haven't clarified that as far as I know have that it is okay. So it's gonna be one seventy. It canna be a Walterway title fight. I'll pitch to you here, Brian. Why is this so great?

For every possible reason? But the core, outside of the glitz and glamour of what it makes it so great to action fighters, Uh, the most gangster fight ever booked. The core of what makes it great is because it's a dramatic shift in disposition and theory from where UFC was recently. UFC had gone corporate. They'd gone to a degree anti fan when it comes to the match making, more about let's make the biggest business match. If you gave the keys to any jomoke fan sitting on a couch somewhere and we're like, go ahead, MSG, is yours? What match are your booking?

For every possible reason? But the core, outside of the glitz and glamour of what it makes it so great to action fighters, Uh, the most gangster fight ever booked. The core of what makes it great is because it's a dramatic shift in disposition and theory from where UFC was recently. UFC had gone corporate. They'd gone to a degree anti fan when it comes to the match making, more about let's make the biggest business match. If you gave the keys to any jomoke fan sitting on a couch somewhere and we're like, go ahead, MSG, is yours? What match are your booking?

Yeah?

Yeah?

They're gonna go, Oh, I want that crazy guy with a three piece and I want Captain Gangster and ATZ and I'm gonna put them together and I'm gonna bring a bong and it's gonna be an MSG and it's gonna headline and a five on main event. Where do I sign up? This is such a give back to the fans. This goes against the recent philosophy of we can't have a main event in which we float out a belt that doesn't matter. Now I get that they're kind of floating out a belt that doesn't matter, but but the way that they're doing it is so fan friendly. And I know there's a whole BMF spin off that I want to have this talk with you, but just at its core of what this fight is a main event and for anyone saying, oh, this fight doesn't have a storyline though there's no hatred, I don't need hatred in storyline. That is for pro wrestling. I get down for pro wrestling, all right. I give a shout out to my brothers on welfare down there, right. PC cares if no one else cares, even though we can't talk about it on this show. But my point on that is this is a super Bowl of being a fan. This is everything we would want. Thank you, Dana.

They're gonna go, Oh, I want that crazy guy with a three piece and I want Captain Gangster and ATZ and I'm gonna put them together and I'm gonna bring a bong and it's gonna be an MSG and it's gonna headline and a five on main event. Where do I sign up? This is such a give back to the fans. This goes against the recent philosophy of we can't have a main event in which we float out a belt that doesn't matter. Now I get that they're kind of floating out a belt that doesn't matter, but but the way that they're doing it is so fan friendly. And I know there's a whole BMF spin off that I want to have this talk with you, but just at its core of what this fight is a main event and for anyone saying, oh, this fight doesn't have a storyline though there's no hatred, I don't need hatred in storyline. That is for pro wrestling. I get down for pro wrestling, all right. I give a shout out to my brothers on welfare down there, right. PC cares if no one else cares, even though we can't talk about it on this show. But my point on that is this is a super Bowl of being a fan. This is everything we would want. Thank you, Dana.

I mean, here's what's amazing about it. What is the UFC's brand in terms of an MMA promoter. Well, yes, they're the best, okay, But more than that, their corporate efficiency meets law and order. That's what they like They like the conveyor belt of content constantly churning. They like the fighters to say yes, whether it's you're gonna take this fight in that place for that amount of a mount of money, just everyone say yes, let's keep this rolling. Everyone gets in line, everyone says, okay, no problem, you got well. I would say, Jorge is pretty good about doing that kind of thing. But you got you know, he can float that brand that he's not. He's the outsider, you know, the guy who, like Kimbo Slacks, was fighting in the streets, and then you got an ads who is the again, the anti law and order candidate, the anti hero, as the New York Times called him. Putting those two together is everything that the UFC typically is not and used to do and he used to do, but they have completely gotten away from. But the fan demand, like, what is the promoter's responsibility to make the fights that people want to pay money to see? Well, I got good news for you. You can do that. And you can also it's not like you're putting on Logan Paul versus KSI. You're putting on two world class athletes, two world class fighters who, by the way, in the case of Jorge Massoud all ranked near the top of that division. It can get sticky and complicated if you lean on this as your business practice before a one off, and they're gonna make it to court of out for it. This is the UFC for once, for once getting out of their own way, yes, and listening to what the fans demand and realizing you can have a little fun and it doesn't damage you.

I mean, here's what's amazing about it. What is the UFC's brand in terms of an MMA promoter. Well, yes, they're the best, okay, But more than that, their corporate efficiency meets law and order. That's what they like They like the conveyor belt of content constantly churning. They like the fighters to say yes, whether it's you're gonna take this fight in that place for that amount of a mount of money, just everyone say yes, let's keep this rolling. Everyone gets in line, everyone says, okay, no problem, you got well. I would say, Jorge is pretty good about doing that kind of thing. But you got you know, he can float that brand that he's not. He's the outsider, you know, the guy who, like Kimbo Slacks, was fighting in the streets, and then you got an ads who is the again, the anti law and order candidate, the anti hero, as the New York Times called him. Putting those two together is everything that the UFC typically is not and used to do and he used to do, but they have completely gotten away from. But the fan demand, like, what is the promoter's responsibility to make the fights that people want to pay money to see? Well, I got good news for you. You can do that. And you can also it's not like you're putting on Logan Paul versus KSI. You're putting on two world class athletes, two world class fighters who, by the way, in the case of Jorge Massoud all ranked near the top of that division. It can get sticky and complicated if you lean on this as your business practice before a one off, and they're gonna make it to court of out for it. This is the UFC for once, for once getting out of their own way, yes, and listening to what the fans demand and realizing you can have a little fun and it doesn't damage you.

When you heard the news, Luke, when you heard the news is the equivalent of finding out mom and dad get high and they watch faces of Death two. I mean, like, is it really like it's like, oh, we can party now, Like what's going on here?

When you heard the news, Luke, when you heard the news is the equivalent of finding out mom and dad get high and they watch faces of Death two. I mean, like, is it really like it's like, oh, we can party now, Like what's going on here?

I thought for sure because during the week you had that interview with Bretto Komoto and Dana White and he was like, I don't even know where Nate Diaz fits in the big picture. We've got be three more years. When you hear from h I'm like, uh not if you give him the masket ball.

I thought for sure because during the week you had that interview with Bretto Komoto and Dana White and he was like, I don't even know where Nate Diaz fits in the big picture. We've got be three more years. When you hear from h I'm like, uh not if you give him the masket ball.

Fight, this ain't UFC Saskatoon. They're giving him the keys of the world's most famous arena at MSG where they fought four years to get in that building, and once they did, they set records. Every time they have a show there they're giving Nate Diaz the ball and they are transitioning to the BMF, creating essentially this badass gangster world Wrestling title that I actually hope they go the distance and actually create a belt to put on, just like, is.

Fight, this ain't UFC Saskatoon. They're giving him the keys of the world's most famous arena at MSG where they fought four years to get in that building, and once they did, they set records. Every time they have a show there they're giving Nate Diaz the ball and they are transitioning to the BMF, creating essentially this badass gangster world Wrestling title that I actually hope they go the distance and actually create a belt to put on, just like, is.

This MMA's turnover chain, you know, the turnover chain.

This MMA's turnover chain, you know, the turnover chain.

I don't know this.

I don't know this.

Jesus Christ. You watch for wrestling. You don't know anything about college football.

Jesus Christ. You watch for wrestling. You don't know anything about college football.

Uh No, I don't know what a turnover chain is.

Uh No, I don't know what a turnover chain is.

Oh my god, you know what? Literally you sick in me, like, like legitimately sick in me. I don't know what turnover chain is. If you can score a turnover, you go back to the sidelines, right, let's see you pick six or whatever. These divisional programs will give you this giant, gaudy, ghost face killer kind of chain you get to wear, and then you get on Sports Center and everyone says you're a legend. You put on Instagram and then you haven't seen this chain. Everyone here knows.

Oh my god, you know what? Literally you sick in me, like, like legitimately sick in me. I don't know what turnover chain is. If you can score a turnover, you go back to the sidelines, right, let's see you pick six or whatever. These divisional programs will give you this giant, gaudy, ghost face killer kind of chain you get to wear, and then you get on Sports Center and everyone says you're a legend. You put on Instagram and then you haven't seen this chain. Everyone here knows.

In a small bubble. But this BMF title, it kind of feels like the UFC Super Fight Belt, which I used to love the crap out of it was okay.

In a small bubble. But this BMF title, it kind of feels like the UFC Super Fight Belt, which I used to love the crap out of it was okay.

Back in the day.

Back in the day.

Yeah, we do tournaments but you know what, let's make really fun fights that people want to see. So let's rematch Shamrock and Gracie and put this super fight belt up. So here's my hope for the BMF thing. I hope it's a tongue in cheek joke, but to get serious for a second, I hope it is a title luke where it can be open weight and it can be as long as you get two crazy mfors in there, and the guy who has it at the moment is willing to fight another crazy mf for close enough in his weight class that it's just a fan super bowl every single time. Data And it's no different than when we used to say, Hey, who cares what weight class Connor is, and let's create a Connor pay per view bell. He's a paper view champ and let's just match him up with the biggest star. It's kind of like that, but you're gonna end up having your one sixty five division without actually having it, because it turns out that most of these fights are going to be between lightweight and walterweight. But I love the creativity that you can have anything that makes you feel the old early UFC Semophore vibes. I'm down for that.

Yeah, we do tournaments but you know what, let's make really fun fights that people want to see. So let's rematch Shamrock and Gracie and put this super fight belt up. So here's my hope for the BMF thing. I hope it's a tongue in cheek joke, but to get serious for a second, I hope it is a title luke where it can be open weight and it can be as long as you get two crazy mfors in there, and the guy who has it at the moment is willing to fight another crazy mf for close enough in his weight class that it's just a fan super bowl every single time. Data And it's no different than when we used to say, Hey, who cares what weight class Connor is, and let's create a Connor pay per view bell. He's a paper view champ and let's just match him up with the biggest star. It's kind of like that, but you're gonna end up having your one sixty five division without actually having it, because it turns out that most of these fights are going to be between lightweight and walterweight. But I love the creativity that you can have anything that makes you feel the old early UFC Semophore vibes. I'm down for that.

Two fights in the row. Diaz has booked his own fight. Kind of interesting to know here, very QUI quickly because we have to move along.

Two fights in the row. Diaz has booked his own fight. Kind of interesting to know here, very QUI quickly because we have to move along.

What's it gonna look like? We can't move along that quick, No, we have to What should the BMF look like?

What's it gonna look like? We can't move along that quick, No, we have to What should the BMF look like?

I don't know. I haven't told much about it all right, by the way, shouts to boss Logic had a mock up of his way. He's aught. They looks a lottle like. Actually, it's pretty cool. This fight, though, is going to take place the same day as Canelo versus Covidleb November second. I think it's happened on the other side of the country, Vegas. Here's what interesting it's if you want it to be a cynical fan Brian, you could you could frame it as UFC's for volity versus boxing attempting something legitimately serious in terms of historic greatness. That would not be a fair framing. Do you think the boxing world's gonna try to do that? What's gonna be the bigger fight? And is there gonna be antipathy between the worlds or is it just two segmented populations of this it's.

I don't know. I haven't told much about it all right, by the way, shouts to boss Logic had a mock up of his way. He's aught. They looks a lottle like. Actually, it's pretty cool. This fight, though, is going to take place the same day as Canelo versus Covidleb November second. I think it's happened on the other side of the country, Vegas. Here's what interesting it's if you want it to be a cynical fan Brian, you could you could frame it as UFC's for volity versus boxing attempting something legitimately serious in terms of historic greatness. That would not be a fair framing. Do you think the boxing world's gonna try to do that? What's gonna be the bigger fight? And is there gonna be antipathy between the worlds or is it just two segmented populations of this it's.

Gonna end up being two segmented population. There's a cross over there because there's so much celebrity involved in Nate Diaz and Canelo Alvarez. I hate this. I get where we're at with so many people having TV deals and big fights in both sports, there's naturally you're gonna see cross promote promoting against each other. We see that a lot. Big UFC card going up against a pretty good boxing match, but this is arguably the biggest boxing pay per view of the year from the idea of like potential buys, although it would be on his own so there's no paper view bys. You get my point, though, Canello's name is that big, and I don't care if you thinkolee lev is washed at thirty six, and yes he's a bit washy, but Canelo would be moving up two weight divisions. Look like this is like stop traffic. There to be great ish that. I need to see what happens next.

Gonna end up being two segmented population. There's a cross over there because there's so much celebrity involved in Nate Diaz and Canelo Alvarez. I hate this. I get where we're at with so many people having TV deals and big fights in both sports, there's naturally you're gonna see cross promote promoting against each other. We see that a lot. Big UFC card going up against a pretty good boxing match, but this is arguably the biggest boxing pay per view of the year from the idea of like potential buys, although it would be on his own so there's no paper view bys. You get my point, though, Canello's name is that big, and I don't care if you thinkolee lev is washed at thirty six, and yes he's a bit washy, but Canelo would be moving up two weight divisions. Look like this is like stop traffic. There to be great ish that. I need to see what happens next.

But in short order it's the Canel to take it.

But in short order it's the Canel to take it.

But the whole idea that I hate when the very top of the sports compete against each other. I hate that. You know, UFC going to MSG is always your second biggest pay per view card of the year in importance, and now it's essentially going up against the one or two biggest boxing card of the year. That sucks. That makes us choose as fans, It makes us choose a journalists, which one we're going to cover in the end, your question of which one is actually bigger though barely the Canelo thing, Because here's the thing. Canelo, as a singular.

But the whole idea that I hate when the very top of the sports compete against each other. I hate that. You know, UFC going to MSG is always your second biggest pay per view card of the year in importance, and now it's essentially going up against the one or two biggest boxing card of the year. That sucks. That makes us choose as fans, It makes us choose a journalists, which one we're going to cover in the end, your question of which one is actually bigger though barely the Canelo thing, Because here's the thing. Canelo, as a singular.

Entity move he is the biggest of the four. So between Diaz, Masvidalklev and Canelo is by four of the biggest.

Entity move he is the biggest of the four. So between Diaz, Masvidalklev and Canelo is by four of the biggest.

And this is a rare sequence where somebody is taking a giant gamble for no other reason than greatness. They want to add another division. I mean, look, dude, Canello's got balls. Can can you comment publicly on this? Can you? Can you speak of the man Satchel like this is insane what he's doing right here. I know the guy's a little bit older than Washy. He's moving up two way class, He's moving up fifteen pounds to take this guy out washed Oh, this is this is fantastic in having to put that up against this gangster super Bowl man.

And this is a rare sequence where somebody is taking a giant gamble for no other reason than greatness. They want to add another division. I mean, look, dude, Canello's got balls. Can can you comment publicly on this? Can you? Can you speak of the man Satchel like this is insane what he's doing right here. I know the guy's a little bit older than Washy. He's moving up two way class, He's moving up fifteen pounds to take this guy out washed Oh, this is this is fantastic in having to put that up against this gangster super Bowl man.

It's very quickly to speak. Honest, dude, I'm telling you, we got to move along. It's just how it goes. Speaking of boxing, Tyson Fury is going to be back this week with what do you want to call it? Another tune up fight? Sis second in a row. Here's interesting. I actually had him in studio at Sirius XM and I asked him, how do you pronounce the last name of your opponent? He actually didn't know. He goes, I have no idea, asked the promoter. I'm just here to wash this bum and collect a check and then we'll see what happens with Wilder in twenty twenty. So I'm sitting here thinking to myself, it's like, well, Tyson, you're an interesting person. I do like watching you compete, and maybe maybe this is a situation like Ruiz and Joshua. We're all discounting one gentleman and outo.

It's very quickly to speak. Honest, dude, I'm telling you, we got to move along. It's just how it goes. Speaking of boxing, Tyson Fury is going to be back this week with what do you want to call it? Another tune up fight? Sis second in a row. Here's interesting. I actually had him in studio at Sirius XM and I asked him, how do you pronounce the last name of your opponent? He actually didn't know. He goes, I have no idea, asked the promoter. I'm just here to wash this bum and collect a check and then we'll see what happens with Wilder in twenty twenty. So I'm sitting here thinking to myself, it's like, well, Tyson, you're an interesting person. I do like watching you compete, and maybe maybe this is a situation like Ruiz and Joshua. We're all discounting one gentleman and outo.

We hope it wouldn't because this could ruin all the big business.

We hope it wouldn't because this could ruin all the big business.

Well I'm not saying I would wish for it, but maybe this could happen and we're all just discounting it. But I'm like, tell me, why, tell me why I'm supposed to care? And I get it's gonna be an ESPN plus again, right, tell me why I'm supposed to care if Tyson you don't even know how to pronounce the last name of your opponent. And I get what his explanation was if you look around the division. He didn't say it was the best available choice, but he did make a credible case that there were a lot of people who are already booked for other fights or blah. And again you can argue with that a little bit.