Welcome back to more to it to show that text a deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment and culture. Start with headline news and then journey to deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are presented in every single story. I'm your host, Marcel Swally. That dude like blue, that sky, blue sky. I always grew up thinking this was like Carolina blue, which is a color, but color that came after Columbia blue, which is a different color. But I can't lie. Carolina blue look better. Yeah, I see Columbia blue really up close to m Can you add a little more blue to it? It's kind of whitewash. All love, man, got love for you guys, and thank you back for all the love. But you know how we start off every show, what's up with that dude? Well, first you got to show some love to the Friday swag Away winner, whoever you are one of you members out there. Make sure that you are a Wily's World member on YouTube. 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All right, y'all, let's talk about some sports because Pete Carroll can't talk about anything right now. I don't know why. Maybe because it's preseason, maybe because they don't think much of his Seahawks. Let me stop. But he wanted to revisit y'all know what the fury that his team had for him when he called that pass on four foot one in Super Bowl forty nine. And I thought this was interesting one because I never heard Pete Carroll talk about it. Maybe that's so me for not watching every single interview with Pete Carroll's but this is the first time I heard him talk about it in depth. So let's talk about it. And guess we talked about it with Richard Sherman on Sherman Sherman Sherman's podcast to discuss that infamous moment in NFL history. Be real, godly, that's bad. I lost the Munic City Miracle, but even that ain't as bad as losing a Super Bowl. And in the way that they lost that Super Bowl, so if you recall a pass away from winning two straight Super Bowls, those Seahawks were dinasty instead, it just died nasty. That's one of my old ones. I used to always say, is it a dynasty or did they just die nasty? Like that? All right, So that's what happened. They lost to the Patriots. Malcolm Butler became a superstar overnight for that one play picking the ball off, and Richard Sherman was still obviously shocked even during this interview. But y'all remember in the moment where Richard Sherman was like, like his soul was snatched from me, Like, oh I remember him on the side. I was like, damn, I know that hurt, even though I ain't never been in that situation. Now, there's a lot of controversy in the moment. Why is Russell Wilson throwing the fourth from one right here when you got Marshawn Lynch Lynch Mob Lynch mob right there, hand him the ball, let him pound it in right They were saying, Oh, it's because Russell is the future of the franchise. He's a quarterback, he's the teacher's pet. We love him, and Marshawn he too, heifey. We don't want him leading. We don't want him be the face of this Super Bowl win. I didn't never get I never gave that much credence. But it was a conversation that was out there. So Sherman and Carol talked about it. Totally cool, totally behind him, even though you know there's still probably some pain suppressed in there. Had a good conversation about it. Let's talk about it, and this is Pete. Carroll talked about his player's feelings. He said, you guys were so mad at me and so pissed. Now you were saying that I'm kind of joking with him. We were hurt. Richard Sherman said, he was like, I wish I could feel it the way I should feel it. But you know what, that play just happened. Pete Carroll put a stamp on it right there and said, you gotta keep going. Ah M, Pete Carroll sounds a lot like me. And I'm gonna tell y'all why at the end of this. So on the situation, they talked about how you guys couldn't hear it for years. But when we got down there, if you remember, we had one time out, and so as soon as we got there, I said, one of these plays, we're gonna have to throw it to get all four plays because I'm always in He's basically talking about the time in the clock management make sure that we have a chance to get all four shots. So we won the first play, and I think what happened is Bill Belichick is late. He sends in the goal line and we already had sent in eleven that went through the play callers. That's what led them to throw it on that down. It had nothing to do with anything else. Basically, what he's saying is we got four downs, we gotta time out. We down there, Okay, this is what we gotta do. We gotta throw it once just to stop the clock potentially, you know. So he's thinking that one of these four and I've been there before, You've been there before. You gotta know how to manage the situation. All right, we gotta throw it one time because we ain't gonna be able to run it four times with the time. And then you're like, all right, which one do we pass it? And then you think maybe the universe is helping us out, conspiring for a win because they sent in their goal line and we do have to throw it once, why not throw it against the goal line package? Now that makes sense on paper beyond I don't care where you are. You're like, yo, they got in the facts. The heavies. Y'all re seen the goal lineage. It's like three offensive guards they made D tackles, then they got the two D tackles, then they got the two d is and then some backup guard. They're gonna get him to right. It's just heavy's out there. So you're like, yeah, they're expecting this run. All we gotta do is drop back quick one. You think that on paper? Obviously, situations dictate terms. So he said, look, we practiced it a million times. It was just the way we had prepared, so I was rock solid on the philosophy of it. It was just the worst play that could ever happen. It was the play of a lifetime, the play of a career, for everybody's career, really, and it turned out all of that so dark, so instantly. And that's what's so beautiful about sports. Not so beautiful in life, but in sports is beautiful because it's not life and death. But in sports, you could be up here and you could be down here. Don't believe me. A boxer who's winning the first four rounds drops that to get throw out, to throw that hook, or trying to throw that upper cut slight night night, just like that, right, you can see it in any sport. You up big. Oh no, we thought you were gonna win like a game like this. So he said one more thing. If you remember my moment was I've been down and think, oh shit, I gotta take this. I thought, this is one of the moments that you prepare for. You gotta be the epitome of poise, handle it and own it. There's nothing you can say that's gonna put it in any other place. It was just as catastrophic as any moment could be. But the thing was we won that game. We had won again. The next year. We have won again because we went back to the playoffs. Anyway, again with all that turmoil, it was a great team, man, we were a great team. I love this story because one is a little more in depth than normal. Right. I know it's old as hell, but it's still preseason football. Not about the cover of the preseason games. Okay, Baker Mayfield is the starting quarterback in Tampa. Happy now, want a cookie? All right, man, But let's talk about when them coaches called the wrong play. And it's so crazy when they do that, because this one was obvious to everyone. Oh, you call the wrong play even though it was the right play on paper, goal line right down there, quick pass. I mean times you've seen that tight end Gronkowski or something he going against the gold line package. You know, you go back to all those big plays by those tight ends Mark Andrews right here. You're like, that's against a heavy package a lot of times. So not the wrong play. But we said, coach, that's the wrong play because we don't like that result. That's the wrong result. So how many times does that happen to me. My god, You're sitting there and coaches like, hey, hey, stunt right, stunt right, and you're like, we got a little more complex terminology in there, but still stn't right. Start right, and you're like, Okay, I'm a stunt right. I'm about to stunt right and then tackle Barry Sanders for a loss in the backfield. Yeah, that's what's about to happen, right, Coach, Okay, stunt right, and you know you gotta play it off, gotta be an actor, and then you do it. You do your stunt and then hre go Berry. He said, oh you stunting, watch me stunt He pounce out touch down and you know what the announce to say, Oh my god, Barry signers a little play. Oh he gets around while they're all touchdown, and then they replay it. And then they showed me going in and guess what they would say. You know, somebody like Pat Summerar or respect, you know, all the great ones out there. They'll be like, oh, look at this play right here and here go John Man. Look at Wiley, where's he going? He's going and losing contained, losing contained, losing contained. I'm like, I ain't lose contained. My coach told me going sorry, and Barry went outside and then not my fault. But that happens all the time, y'all. And it's crazy because in those moments, it's like really loud in terms of the criticism on Sunday and hella quiet on that my bad, Wiley. I should have called that stunt from coach on Monday the apology kind of quiet, but that criticism loud to say, Hell, you be sitting there like, oh, it's all good, it's all good. I hate it when they say it it's all good. When they started doing that on my bad, you know what I'm saying, Oh, just say I'm sorry in the apologize and write a headline in the paper like I wanted big and mold. So that happens a lot in sports, happens a lot in life as well, right, And then another thing, I thought that it was interesting that Pete Carroll how fast he owned that moment, and it made me think about some of the things that I go through, like how fast sometimes I own a moment instead of like really going through the emotional rollercoaster of that moment, I'd be like, you ain't gonna change it, so hey, accept it. Now, let's move on. But sometimes that could feel too fast, right like Pete Carroll squatted to his knees, was like, damn it. Compete compete. You know you're always saying that compete because Pete is in that compete. Compete, complete compete, Nah own it all right? He got up and he was just like, hey, made a mistake. Or no, actually I didn't even make a mistake. Hey don't like the results? Good call? Sorry question. People are like, wait a minute, you okay? So this is interesting. It could be ownership, right like ownership of the moment, or can also be a little emotional distance. And sometimes I think I got that childhood trigger childhood issue because I was a kid that emotionally when I was young. I was like, why y'all adults don't care how I feel? Y'all just care what I'm doing. Y'all just care what I'm achieving. Do y'all really care how hard this is? How hard it is to practice after school and then come home and do your homework and get a's and be the MVP. I was like, do y'all know how hard it is? And they're like, don't care. I was like what So sometimes it could be ownership. Sometimes I could be just you're owning it by being distant from it, you ain't even feeling it. And I give you an example. It happened to me yesterday. I still got that trigger, y'all. It was me and MJ. Now I got this thing where I'm throwing them in the pool of late. I've done it twice, throw them in the pool, close on everything. He got on, a whole tough skin outfit, right, cross cords, all that cord t is own looking, I don't care, looking like young ice cube. I'm throwing them in the pool, right. Why am I doing it? That's because I'm a big kid like him, but also to show them that there's other levels of power out there. So he he the big dog in the house right now, his two little sisters good luck dye betties. He'd be throwing four arms all through this house right So every now and then I pick him up and be like, oh, you ain't going nowhere, and he'd be like ah, and you can see him going through it. I threw him in the pool yesterday. I messed up. I didn't throw him in the pool normal way like this. I used to grab the shoulders, ya pou. I threw him sideways. He did a backflop. It sounded like this, y'all. Oh like ah, damn it. And then he was like all right. He got out the pool crying, But his cry wasn't real. His cry was the fact that he got over powered again. He don't like that. His cry wasn't so much from the physical impact. It's just like Daddy stopped throwing in the pool, even though I know deep down he loves it. It's just the fact that he ain't the winner right now. He ain't the big dog like he want to be. And I sat there with that distance, and I was like, don't be who you are. Don't be what it was like to you, Like they still go to him right And I was sitting there like, damn, I'm having a conversation about me when I was eight versus him right now. Eight a bad flop. And I went to him point being that sometimes you could own a moment. I could be like, hey, tough enough boy, you all right, you ain't hurt. Oh, stop tripping. You just know that you don't want to get thrown in the pool because I'm bigger and stronger than you. You know, I could have did that own it true? Or I could be like I hear you, I feel you. And that's what Pete Carroll did eight years later he actually went there. So respect to Pete Carroll on this situation, all right, So after hearing Pete Carroll's context of the situation, did that change your opinion of that play? Want to know that in the comments? Right? And was the loss simply just because hey, they get paid to Malcolm Butler did a hell of a job, an unbelievable job on that play. And what if the Seahawks did win that game, you think they would have won the Super Bowl again the next year. Ah, Now we're going too far and that we figured all that. Just let me know what y'all taking the play and has your opinion changed of it? Love for you guys who are while these world members on you two and the Friday Swag Away always sending these books. 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And the lawsuit is based on the NCUBA maliciously attacking his character through a completely false and highly offensive statement that was widely reported in the med and substantially and irreparably damaged his reputation. All right. That's from him and his lawyer and his law firm. And I'm just so glad I said irreparably the right way. Had that word in my head for seventeen minutes. Y'all. Can't lyn to y'all, I will say reblamably, but I got it out, all right. So the NCAA statement in question was issued to eat ESPN along with other media outlets. And here's the statement that happened on July twenty eighth, twenty twenty one. I know were gonna talk about that too. What's today today? Okay, Reggie? A couple of years later, let's talk why? All right? So, in response to an inquiry about the possibility of Bush having his records and participation restored in light of changes to the NIL rules that went into effect earlier that month, we still talking two years ago, y'all. All right, here's what they say. Although college athletes can now receive benefits from their names, images and likenesses through activities like endorsements and empiricists, nc DOUBLEA rules still do not permit pay for play type arrangements. That's what the spokesperson said. The NCAA infractions process exists to promote fairness in college sports. Boring lie in the rules that govern fairplay are voted on, agreed to, and expected to be upheld by all NCUBLA members schools. If there's one thing in this country that unifies us all, it's bashing the Cuba, right. I swear you want to get a one hundred on the proof of rating talk bad about the scuba man. God dang, and it's so crazy. My Godmom, she works on a couple of the committees for them, and I'll be like, sorry, God, MoMA, I can't protect you either. They be coming at y'all. His all right. So this all had to do with Reggie Bush's attempt to have his two thousand and five Heisman Trophy reinstated. Bush forfeited the trophy in twenty ten after a four year Extra benefits investigation determined that he family members while he was a student athlete, excepted cash, travel expenses and a home in the San Diego area, where Bush's parents lived rent free for more than a year and for which they were provided ten thousand dollars to furnish. Sent them suckers to, I kill. How you gonna give me a free house and then send me to that's all big ass out. Ten k? What up? One couch and half of them? Let me stop. Back then that was a lot more money. But boy, I don't know, I don't know. He ain't say no apartment, he ain't say no dorm. He said ten k. And you Reggie Bush, and you got a nice house with that. Let me stop. All right, So here we go. Ah, we gonna get into the thick of this one. It's gonna get really interesting, y'all, because y'all know me. I love to talk that talk. So here's the Heisman Trophy trust that maintained that Bush's two thousand and five season was vacated by the nc Double A not eligible to win. Right. So, however, the DNC double A were to officially restore his records, it is expected that Bush's trophy would be returned. I ain't know why he gave it up in the first place, but I wasn't talking to him in depth about that, but I was like, why ain't give it? Maybe it was a lot of pressure around him. Maybe I should just ask him, right to see him at practice the next time and ask him. So. The NCAA statement is completely false and highly offensive. The NCUBA knew mister Bush was never even accused of involved in, much less sanction for any pay for play arrangement. Right. That came from his lawyer again, all right, and then USC finally did the right thing in my eyes and ended the disassociation in twenty twenty. Okay, the crux of this conversation is drums did he or did he not participate in a pay for play type arrangement. Now, according to Reggie Bush and his side and his lawyers, dog y'all ain't even bring us up on pay for play charges. Y'all brought us up on that nil umbrella of charges. And here's the thing from afar from where I am. I'm not reading through one hundred and forty seven pages of manuscript, but from where I'm from, Reggie Bush wasn't in no pay for play. He was in a different type of arrangement, right He was into an advancement so that you can sign with someone else. Sounds like an artist, sounds like a musician. Right here you go, here's your advance, and you know them album's coming over here. Right here you go, Reggie, here's your advance. You know when you get your deal and your marketing, etc. In the NFL. We right here. That's how that go. That is not pay for play. Pay for play is when you say, hey, here's some money, now go out there and do what you do, and maybe I have even some influence on what you doing. That's a whole different animal. So I think just if you're gonna have to make it bold and clear. He was never brought up on those charges because he was never ever thought of to be in a pay for play scheme. So now is Cuba. Why would you want to run it back and act like he is. That's a whole different world. Plus, come on, enough is enough time served? Like y'all trying to hold this man down for what to say that we were in the right. Then now he did violate. He did do a violation. I get it, I get it. And that violation is not necessarily what you stated two years ago. He violated, and that's a violation in itself as well. Okay, you know me. I always look at both sides. I think it's interesting timing though. You wait two years if you Reggie Bush, maybe you're getting your paperwork in order or whatever. But now you're not on Fox. Now two years later, you're gonna bring this case back up. I wonder why what triggers it? Right, you had a bigger platform when you were at Fox, but probably can't drop that in the middle of a halftime game of a college big game. We got Texas Texas Tech. You over here, like, by the way, I need my trophy back. But I have been seeing billboards all around Los Angeles. So this campaign for some reason is actually igniting again in terms of Reggie Bush getting everything that he's doing or time served correct. So I think the NC double A if they're gonna stand on the principle of just pay for play, huh. I think you need to go back to what you guys initially charged them with. And if you do that, then you're gonna come to the quick realization time served or enough is enough if UFC, if USC can get over it. Hey, y'all's tripping over the fact that Reggie Bush is now way gone out of your likes. There's more you can benefit from bringing them back in in terms of the good graces than not. The whole landscape has changed. I think his punishment should have changed the Lifetime band. Nah, y'all gotta get with the times, because the times right now will the support what Reggie Bush did, and now y'all should support it as well. So do you think Reggie Bush is gonna win his case, oh two year later, ass case? Or do you think Reggie Bush should have the heisman dropy returned and this record's restored. I can't lie, and I hate to be this guy, but sometimes you can be like Yo, I was too harsh. I do it as a parent, you do it as a friend. Like y'all went in on them, manch but you were right, but you still went in. And now it's time to be like, let it go, let bygones, be bygones, filling that love roderk swagg away while these YouTube membership. I'll see y'all out there getting it in jail. Keep it going. Also, we got those sweep steaks on Project Transition dot org. I gotta do it. Just hit the donate mutton or just go to the bottom into your email so I can know you part of the team, and then you're gonna be enter to win stuff like this. 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All the lanes they be trying to carve her up into. We're gonna talk through that, all right, So Monday night, half a world away Chikari is that you Oh my god, she won gold medal. And what's crazy about her winning the goals is that she qualified for the finals on time. Y'all do know track like that? Basically you want to win your heat or get the top two finished basically so that you guarantee the advance in the rounds. You never want to be this person, well, actually you don't want to be the person who got last, but then you don't want to be also the person who was waiting because your time is close, and you got third or fourth, You're like, if I gotta get in, And that's why she was way out in lane nine, right, So that's what happened. Now she gets in that race two sick and she won ten sixty five goodness, And not only was that a world championship record, tied for the best time in the world this year, she's number one in the worlds and she just won the world championship. Yes, Chakari's back, y'all. It's just that simple a track. Like all we guys the Olympics every four years. Everything else is just world championships, and you better show some respect to these invitationals. Shikari Richardson beat Shelley and Fraser Price, and she be Shrika Jackson, five time world champion, Shelley Anne. Let me put some respect on her name. So she says this, and this is what I love about her, and this is why we're gonna go in on this. I'm not back, I'm better. Okay. She been saying that mantra for a while and I'm listening and now I'm seeing that they are matched together to her. Okay. So she soaked it all in, surround herself with supporters and tried to drown out the rest. That was her process from when she was down and out to rising back to the top. She said, I would say, never give up, never allowed media, never allow outsiders, never allow anything but yourself and your faith to find who you are. I would say, always fight, no matter what fight. Okay, Now what was she fighting and why was she fighting? Well, she was up there in Eugene, Oregon, somewhere I've run before, been on that track many a times, and it was her role to the Tokyo Olympics, Tokyo Games. But then she tested positive for marijuana, remember that, right, And then it became a litmus test. It became more than just you tested positive marijuana, you can't running the race. A lot of issues came out of that race fairness and then also we were talking about the rule book. We were talking about as this is legal or not, and what should be the punishment of it, and a lot of conversations on what's right and what's wrong. So she became the poster child for something much bigger than somebody who just failed the marijuana tests. Let's be real about it, okay. So then that debate went on and on and on marijuana is not a performance and answer, Oh you won. If it's not, why she taking it? You know what I mean? We had those kind of debates and it's still on the band list, It's still there, y'all. So then it was like, well, y'all just mad because uh, she young, and she outspoken, and she black, and she American, you know, like even Americans was like looking at the world trying to clown. And then within America, we was like, oh, y'all, just maggat. She young and black and she just don't give a damn right all that stuff. So we talked through that as well. Now after her test and then the depth of her mother. Remember it was due to the recent death of her mother. She said, it's why she was chewing marijuana, coping mechanism. She said. She was in no man's land, both on the track and off the track. Okay, So now let's got to get to the meat of this situation of why people really went there on her. First of all, let me just say clearly congratulations on her redemption story, seriously, because I was critical of her because one gonna be messing with my sport, not gonna be stopped, you know. I got levity all the time. Seriously, nothing's worse than waste it. You can say talent, you can say potential, whatever it is, nothing's worse than wasted. You know what, I take somebody who's bad. You bad. I look at little Timmy dog. It ain't gonna work, Timmy. You got two left ankles and it ain't gonna work. It ain't gonna work, bro, But it's okay. Keep participating, learn the life lessons to sport. Ain't no way it's gonna work. I got kids on my team literally that don't even know how to run. Seriously, Like when they run their fastest, it's like, it's like that for real. I'm not even clowning, and I don't laugh at them. I don't clown them. In my head, I'm like, you're bad. You know you won't get the ball. You're blocking, Okay, distraction, We're gonna teach you in other ways. Because I don't want to discourage you. I give him the ball. All them kids that run like this, gonna go give me that flag and slam it down. He gonna be like, I can't run it. I'm like, I don't want to reinforce that, so I don't reinforce the negativity. But that's just bad. What's worse is wasted somebody who performs like him every time I give him the ball, and I know he good, but he just getting caught up. He ain't paying attention, he don't know the place. He's worse than that. Nothing's worse than wasted somebody who could be much better. And look at this dude down there with people I know sh'ld be down there frankly to be real. Okay, So that's where Shakari went with me knowing how damn good she was. Shakari, you're not going to the Olympics because of a failed drug test. Not the smartest thing to do. Dumb as hell. But hey, I mean, why is it dumb? I tell you it's dumb because you only got four years. You gotta wait four years for ten and a half seconds to get glory, to set yourself up in life. That's what you're working out for. That's what you are doing all this and gearing up for four years, and then in this moment, that's what happened. That's fine. You could say it's a coping mechanism for a mom I would found other ways to cope. I lost my mom too, if y'all want to understand me, so anyway, forget that. Then you come back and you lose, not only lose, you get last place. And nothing's worse than wasted, except maybe you know what's battling. What's worse than wasted? A loud loser? Yes, you haven't been with somebody who lost and they won't shut up you like dog, I don't give a damn what you used to do. Shut your hands up. And that's what Shekari found herself. Now, I understand a lot of things got conflated because she had the nails, she had the hair, she had to clothes, she had to make up, and everybody she's black, and oh she's loud. Everybody was going all them other places, getting distracted. But y'all forgot, for real what this was about her about? No weed conversation like that? A weed conversation is it happens in track a lot all the time. Guess what happens suspended for six months? Oh boy, because y'all don't even care about track? Why did this blow up? Because y'all cared about more than that. It wasn't a weed conversation. It wasn't she's a loud black woman conversation, in your face black woman conversation. Nope, nope, nope. It was a conversation of values, and we saw our values go in conflict with each other. Let's talk through that. An olympian, potential olympian that's representing what this country, American values. Let's talk about those. These kids like Chikari, they got it messed up. Why because they listened to the Migos faithfully. Literally, I love the Migos. I feel like I discovered the Migos. They used to be on Sports Nation with us before they even blew up. I used to hang out with Migos for real, and I love they first album. I love All, but that first one was insane. Still could put that on Chinatown right now. But they messed it up. They said, walk it like you're talking. Really, so all I gotta do is talking. Didn't walk like that? No, no, no, not here, not in America, not the way we are born to raise out here. You know what it is really supposed to say, talk it like you walk it. If the base is you did it, say what you want America, don't give it. Damn. Don't believe me. Oh Okay, here's America. In success. America will let you do whatever you want to do if you're successful. Go ahead, you don't believe me, they can have walls up. We do not want anything else but what we want. And then here comes a black golfer, Oh we love is Higer. Right right, here becaumes a white basketball player, Oh we love you Dirk, you know Lukes. And then a reality star becomes a president. Because America in success be like, let them go. Who give it? Damn right, I'm gonna give y'all the best example last. But in failure, America America be like. In controversy and failure, America will go like this. Our value system goes like this, excuse me what you do? What you say? Because exactly what happened to Shakar. She got caught up in that because she failed, and then she became controversial. Right, So America be like, tighten up, do it the right way if it's not successful. And we know what the right way is boring, tried and true, boring, but it's successful, right, we know all the values and attributes of that. So here's the thing. I'm gonna bring it all home with y'all because I know it's still some people out there for whatever reason, it's just the best thing for them to say. It was this, this and this, It was black, her hair, her makeup, her voice, her mouth. They want to go there, they want to stop there, but they don't want to go to the base of this, the foundation. Let me take you to the foundation of this, and I give you the best example in the world, Florence Gearfrid join her. Right, all right, let's talk about flow Joe. Flow. Joe used to run forever and nobody really knew unless you love track, because she was always hovering around third fourth place that world. You know, obviously win some, but most of the time when it got big time, no no, no, no, and then all of a sudden, whoa, what is going on? There's a speculation of what helped her do that? Rest in peace, But I ain't going there. But I am gonna go here. She b ten four nine, Yo, What just happened? Oh my god, Chikari just ran a ten six five. To let you know the difference in that. That's like me raising Chakari right now, not skinning. She'll smoke you by no two tests of a second. Almost. I ain't in one hundred. That's that's this whole room plus some. Y'all it's a dust. So here's the thing. Flow Joe. Well she was third and fourth place. Eh mild manner, Flow Joe, start winning nails, clothes hair. I mean she did it with elegance and class, but still flam boy and as they come flat boy and Shikari without all the woof tickets. But guess what she had, and she could have woofed if she wanted to success. When you win, it's all good. When Chakari was at LSU doing all that, girl, go ahead, it was quick. It was fast that LSU was go ahead, win tripping, go get it right, it's all good. The same thing happening to Odell Beckham Junior when O'Dell was out there one hand catching with the goldilocks and all that stuff. All right. Then also you kept getting hurt and getting in the controversy with the giants and the net and all this stuff, and you got pizza, and then you got flower by the pizza, And that ain't really flower? Is it? All of a sudden you become more than into what you are. Stop getting distracted by all the other things they try to make you focus on because you never fixed the problem that way, they don't want you to fix the problem. Really, I don't know, but why else would you distract these youngsters? So stop listening to amigos fully not gonna stop, No, seriously talking like you walk it. If you balling out of control, wolf wolf woolf, if you ain't, don't be allowed loser. It ain't gonna work that way, simple as that. So I looked at that example and I was like, damn all these people getting this wrong. Flow Joe Ben did this in her own way, flowed Joe way. Chakari Ben did this too, and it worked into Chakari didn't work or didn't work as hard, or didn't get the same results from her work, and then it all started to crumble down. Now you see, Schakari symbolism looks different, doesn't she Whatever you want to say, I ain't gonna go into that conversation right now, but well I'm gonna get into this conversation. The hair ain't the same, nail's still the same, the conversation ain't the same. You want to know why, Because attitude is altitude. Attitude is altitude. People gonna beat you up all the time when you say stuff like, man, won't you act right or act different or do that? Man? Don't tell me what to do. I can do whatever I want. No, you can't. You know you can't. There is a science to life, and those who don't want to study and apply it really struggle in life. I know there's an art to life. We all know the art. I could be who I want to be, freedom expression, But don't disrespect the science. You gotta put in that work. It gotta be first, and it shows itself in so many ways, different displays, but so many ways. So that's why I was critical of her, not just because Wow, I don't like Chakari, she too loud? Who cares? I'm louder than her? I didn't like that she wasted what she had and now she realized it too, and she made some changes. And all I was trying to do was make sure she made those changes. Yo, who somebody over here actually cares not only just about you, but that beautiful sport of track and field. Thank you for taking care of my baby, Shikari. Keep going girl, all right? You think of Richardson's comeback story and did you write her off before? Impressive? Win ho the hell writing off? What twenty four year olds like this istp writing them off? Just tell them to remix the Migo song and they'll be better, right, all right? Are you surprised she won? And should marijuana be legal in sports? Damn? We got some good questions right there. Beat them up in the comments, beat me up in the comments. But on this one, I ain't right. I just ain't wrong. She'll call myself, was it, Bob Barker? I'm over here running the prices right over here, giving away everything a new car. Then the people beyy and then you always see them later they'll be like, damn, we gotta pay them taxes. That car costs a grip. That free car costs a lot, right, But nah, this don't cost you anything, doesn't not as much as that car Friday Swag Away winner. While these world membership on YouTube? Or look at this what's his name? What's his name? What's that say? Right there? Y'all? Like that right there? I can see it. That's a real tag, that is official. Right there. I'll hook you guys up. Just go to Project Transition dot org. Donate to the foundation any amount. It could be a penny if they let you just do it. Make it a recurring penny. So every month, every week, gotta be a penny. I can take that penny. You get that helmet man, all those experiences and more. Let's focus some comments, focus from comments. Yeah, all right, let talk about Jonathan Taylor in that trade. I think j T will end up back with Indy on same deal. Huh. I do wonder, though, do you think a current non quarterback can build a brand for himself off the field in regard to endorsements, etc. Yeah, of course, Justin Jefferson is a brand. My son does the was it gritty giddy whatever? He giddy ed up every damn second of his life. Now Justin Jefferson right there, right, So there's one man. Jonathan Taylor sounds like Chris Jones. Chris is saying he's gonna hold out the week eight. None of them teams have thirty two million to pay CJ like he says he wants, and the Chiefs are saying, okay, next man up. I think Chris Jones is gonna cost my homes a super Bowl trophy this coming season. But CJ isn't going to get his bag because it's too late in the I guess we will see how CJ does as an actor if you can believe that Michael Bay unless Clark Hunt steps and the Chiefs aren't given CJ at thirty two million dollar back. I just missed that whole joke, but I know it's funny somewhere. All right, let's go Scott Van Pelt join the ESPN Monday Night Countdown. Even the Turner guys have more than one gig. Barkley and Ernie have been doing the podcast together for a number of years. You're right. I don't see it at all. I've never seen it, but yeah, you're right. Barkley has several shows on TNT and we'll have a show with Gail kingo CNN. Yeah, he will, he will, he will. I ain't seen none of that. I ain't seen the Gail Kings show yet. It's coming though out here. Shaq have been doing a podcast a while with Spice Adams and the Shell turn I have seen that because that's the Homies. So yep, I've seen that. When you're right, Kenny might be the only one right now where Inside the NBA is his only media entertainment show that he does. Ah, so you're right. In pointed that there are even examples that Turner which proves that I'm right, because there's asteroids everywhere. They just woof, they breaking us up into pieces. I'm gonna miss Steve Young and Susie me too, but I'm also gonna look for to enjoying what they got going right now because I like this lineup, kayl it is going to be mussy TV. See you agree with me? All right? We got to remember right here, mister stephen B twelve talking about Irvin and Keishawn Johnson going to Undisputed, stephen A would have would have to up the antie to match up with Skip show. Stephen A should add t oh, it would be the most watched show ever. Whoa, whoa if stephen A got Shannon reportedly, I don't know if it's reported now or t o now we cook him with some grease. That's the sept CON's going against the autobots, because that's the lineup right there. Because Skipton looked at the Junkyard Skip with Sanford or something wown, he was like, he was looking like, oh, let me get a little bit of Keishawn over there. Come on here, what else s'all got over there, Michael Irvan, let me get some of the right. Where's Max Kellerman? If you're going all through the sand for the sun, Junkyard, go get Max Kellerman. I have never been a big fan of skip Baylist, but I must admit I like this group. Told you, I'm interested to see how this works. And I have to admit I'm not a fan of Steven A, but I'm a big fan of Shannon. What will I do? Question? What do you do when the thing you love becomes one with the thing you hate? Ah, It's called live. This world is just God and devil. This world is just good and bad and love and hate. Everything we do is a balance and that of equilibrium. We slamt this way, then we slap that way. The beautiful thing about human beings is because we have our own minds, we also can play our own movies in our head, which include you showing the world you think only the positive things about you. Right, all that bs about you, it's leaking out. We see it. People just don't call you out on it. And unless you got a friend like me, then I'm an asshole because I call out all your BS. Because I'm gonna lead with my bs. First, like, I need to my lips right now, ask Larry. All right, So basically it's a flip flop. Steven A gets Shannon Sharp and Skip gets all the fired ESPN employees. Yeah, that's real. Shannon in the background like, damn, took y'all like five people to replace me. Laugh my ass off. That was one of the things that people were telling me made me feel good. I was dying laughing. They were like, damn, why do you leave? They invite four other people to replace you. They're like Shady Joy, David and the slick Rick. I was like, man, they doing different thing than me, man, but it did feel funny. All right, So here is who is going to be the NBA expert. I told y'all jayen Rose. They gonna hire jaen Rose. They got to They already on that path. Finish it, Finish him, remember that, finish him with that Mortal Kombat. All Skip needs is to hire Kwame for the NBA covers, and this show is going to be absolutely blow up. Yep, laugh my ass off. Yeah, that show will blow up if they had Kwame. God Lord Kwame. I just love to see Kwame stuck between these borders. Look, I curse. If I won't, I'm gona go back on my tractor, y'all. Good, Just gonna walk off set every single show to go back on that tractor. That would be amazing. All right, y'all. Now it's time to bring in my man, Will. And since Will is here, I need to hear Will, so I'm gonna have to bring up his Yes, Bana black Dare. Here's what's up, Will? I'm listening to you what to do? Brother?