Welcome back to More to It, to show that takes your deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment, and culture. Start with headline news and then journey to deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are presented in every single story. I'm your host, ourself swally that dude, are you ready? South Central Lost can listen? Whoa what you want to do? Oh man? I got love for you guys out here is going down around town. I'm talking surround sound hit them with the dug pam Baby. You feel like a Friday than me, but that Thursday is the new Friday. I know how y'all singles and all y'all millennials act. Y'all be going to work wet on Friday already started all weekend and we already started this show. Man. Welcome to never shut up. Y'all know what we do here. We learn life lessons yep, and we talk a little sports and entertainment and cover those in the media like nobody else. You know how it goes around hand. We start off every show with what's up with that dude? Other than banging on wax over here? Y'all remember banging on wax. The crips and bluffs were actually rapping. He said, Pi Rue is cripping reversed, but the sea is on his back. That might be all things considered the best rap lyric ever. He said, against the enemy, PI root is cripp on reverse, but the sea is on his back. Y'all. Gotta go home and digest that one, all right, y'all, So let's talk about what happened yesterday after this show. My wife kept filming. She's now learning that she has an on button, which means people in the media understand that if you meet a lot of people in the media, celebrities, et cetera, they're a lot more introverted than you would expect. Now all of them. Trust me. I live in La in Hollywood. I see them. Some of them be like turn that off. You know who are actually on more? The ones who's trying to get up there, trying to become famous, the ones at the gym who are also bartend who also has an audition on Wednesday, you know them like god, dang, shut up. So my wife is learning that, you know, all these cameras and all this stuff in her face right now she's filming. She gotta be on. So you know, instead of saying yes, I love my family, she has to say yes, I love my family. You know. At the end of that, I'm looking at her like, yes, I love something to eat, but she looking at me like, yeah, I love door dash my face. So that's what's going on around here. Other than that. If you guys see anything different, let me know Durnom Turner, loom thurn Learner. There are some things different around these parts. Yes, we have another a new sponsor to Never Shut Up. So yeah, man, you and I about to have some fun because we about to start playing for some funds. Yeah, little games and little skin in the game. Y'all know me man, a prop bet all day, black Jack all day. I declare war all day. Y'all all had to teach me the rest like poker and Backer rat and all. I think that's the one that's been out, but we're gonna find out because bet Us is now an official sponsor of Never Shut Up. Getting some of that mac of feet and I said, yeah, we going, we going somewhere right now. People appreciate all the love and support, So you can go to Wileywinds dot Com made it simple for y'all. Wileywins dot com. You can see the bottom takeer. You see this, go to wileywins dot com log gone sign up and get you one hundred and twenty five percent sign up bonus so we can start getting in this shut I'm telling we got some crazy proper. I'm gonna make up a prop bet like who's gonna have a looser braid on the field when they take the helmet? All this stupid stuff, right, Oh man, I just got to do it, man, because why now we're gonna have some fun with this. What else happened to me yesterday? Had a tremendous call with a local foundation. Don't want to say too much yet because we have a lot in the works, but a tremendous partner for us. They already feed the homeless, They already have Christmas toy drives. They already go to South Central and all the neighborhoods help the kids out there are underserved, underprivilege and give them opportunities. They also give them things during the holidays because they're less fortunate than most. Three on three basketball tournament we're talking about pick a ball turn were about to get the dang dang rolling out here. So appreciate them and their support and our partnership that's in the making. Then I went to practice yesterday and I ain't gonna lie. I put on my hat. I put on that coach's hat for real, that old Bill Belichick, you know, not this new one, the old Bill Belichick. Man. I went out there and got them kids, right. I was like, look, y'all, gotta be accountable. We have lost two games by a total of how many points? Seven? That's one play. Actually we win that game at an eight point with a two point conversion. We win those games. We lost two games by one play, and you know where that play is. It's not in your cleats, it's in your head. Pay attention. Be accountable. I ain't say it like that that gangster, but I was like, yo, lock in and hold each other accountable. When you know he's not lined up right, you tell him. When you know that he's not going as hardest, you tell him, and you make sure you're doing it first. Kids looking at me like yes, let's go, And I'm not lying. And all my practices, Phil Belichick will declare yesterday was my best practice in any sport I've ever coached. So you know what that means. On Sunday, we about to get boat racer kids. They use it all up on Wednesday practice. They're gonna look a mess out there Sunday. Now we got some wrinkles, We got some things for these boys. I am literally this is when experience matters. I am literally going deep deep in the NFL playbook to go out there and be some may yr ols. It's going down. What else is going on? I oh, during that practice, I had to bring this up. Was acting like Ladani and Thomason in the practice. Cause y'all don't know LT like I know LT because I played with him rookie year. We drafted him in San Diego, etcetera. That's my guy. He never ran hard in practice, and it wasn't because he didn't work out and work hard. No, he was so protected. He was so precious. We needed so much of LT. No one touched him, and he would always just smoothly like do everything. He was like he was almost getting gliding mental reps and you better not get in his way and he go at his speed. But you, I mean, he gonna make the cut and get the thing. But then it's just like this, I mean, people who were there know it. It was the smoothest glide you ever seen, because y'all seen him run top speed and it looked like he chilling. Boy, he be in practice just doing that and MJ gonna pull it out yesterday. Now his knee was sore a little bit. I don't know he got banged on during the game, but I was just like, come on, little man, do better or blt that was great? Blt out what a laddn't do it? It? Don't have him a damn commercial with somebody looking at the camera looking at them little kids. Hey, so are a bunch of little kids and Pop Warner, MJ. Anybody, you're just spinning and all that. And then they stopped me say hey, I want to belt Arby's hook them up LT five percent five percent. If I see that damn commercial, that's dope. Other than that, I had a pick a ball tournament yesterday and let's just say none of us played like LT. We were horrible. Whoa, whoa. There are levels in everything in this world, including just drawing, like, oh my god, yes I can really draw a look mommy, and then somebody else in the that's you in the first grade second grade, Like I dang, let's scribble scrabble, right, We got out there and got our ad worked. I thought it was gonna be a round robin, but we were on teams, so it was a mixing match. And let's just say they mixed us up with some other team and matched us with the wrong team. Why they were waxing us. We won one game out of six, so yeah, for all you people who know records, that's one in five. Let's just say that ain't good. And I was the worst. I literally was like my left my left knee hurt, and I'm a baby, so if anything on me hurts, everything hurts. I'm just I played that way. Give me the give me the needle, give me the quarter zone, give it to me, because if something hurts, everything hurts. I am a big baby. My nickname is Teddy Bear. Stop playing. So I'm sitting out there like my knee hurt a little bit and that's a lot, and I ain't moving for all the balls. And then I just threw off my time in, threw off my mechanics. I was sorry. Yes, I sucked. As Rodney Harrison would say, I was garbage. My dog say it, brother, and say it with your chest all right, y'all, y'all know this show is powered by you and Project Transition dot org. Yes, go to Project Transition, y'all know what to do Project transition dot org and help these kids in the community develop their inner power so they can show the world how great they are and be their greatest version. A lot of great partnerships happening right now with them, and this book is yours. If you leave a recurring donation, that donation will support these kids, even leaving their small borders. In terms of locale, we got some opportunities right now, Brewing. We're taking kids outside the city, the state, to travel the country, the world, to go visit schools, visit colleges. 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We all know you made the move from explicitly being on YouTube to now ESPN and YouTube, and the Pat McAfee show has achieved significant success. Let's talk about it. Let's need some numbers, some big round numbers. Two hundred and forty two million total views in his first four weeks, Yeah dank, that's a whole lot of that's sixty point five a week, reaching an average of one point four million viewers and peaking at one point nine million on ESPN's linear networks. And you too. Okay, So the shows perform well digitally, it's linear. Viewership on ESPN has been more modest, that's what they're saying and reporting, with a peak of four hundred and fifteen thousand viewers y'all and the average of two hundred and seventy seven thousand viewers y'all over the first four weeks. Immediately, when I see that, I don't look at the product any different. I just look at how you guys digest the product differently. Right. It's almost like a potato. I do this to my son all the time, but like, you want some French fries. Yeah? Here, he'd be like, what, I don't want that. I'm like, it's a potato. That's how you make French fries. You say, we'll make it turn into French fries. He wants to digest the potato a different way. I grew up. I used to eat the potato. How Oh they's so good, y'all. Red do that with a potato? Oh, next level? So potato times, French fries, hash browns, whatever way you want to consume it and to cook it up or whatever. Still a potato. Damn. It's still pat McAfee, but it's coming out in different ways we're gonna talk through why you guys like y'all potatoes differently, Because linear cable, you gotta be there. Digital cable, be there when I want you, be there when I need you. So the full three hour plus YouTube edition of the show has been particularly successful, averaging five hundred thousand viewers, with a peak of seven hundred and six three seven hundred and sixty three thousand viewers. Good lord, this boy over here eat all right. So the clips from the Pat McAfee Show on YouTube, the ESPN app and social media have garnered over two hundred and thirteen million views in the first month. All right, enough numbers, damn it, marsh. So I don't know what you're talking about. It just sounds like a lot, all right. So it is a lot. So ESPN is hoping, they say, more successful on the linear platforms and to just keep balling out of control on the digital as you're doing, and your engagement as great as well. So here's Pat McAfee talking about this, and since he been on ESPN, he says, quote, this show could have been an abysmal failure. We had no idea what was going happened whenever we came over here to ESPN. I know our people were not happy that we necessarily were coming to ESPN. He talking about y'all. He ain't talking about his homeboys. He ain't talking about those on the cast and crew. He talking about y'all. Watch this. They were calling me a sellout. I was getting terrible things said about me to me from our people. These people were telling me terrible things. These people that are our fans were just I mean, the messages I was getting from people about how much I let them damn, and how big of a fraud I am, and how big of a sellout I am. All these things were terrible. Okay. Now, he reiterated that despite the show now operating under ESPN's banner, he was determined to change as little as possible, and the unfilter nature of the show will remain, and they're still allowed to swear as much as they want, with the exception of the word. As my son says, F daddy word. He says F daddy words. So, boy, we thought we were gonna they were gonna hate us. McAfee said, now, there's still a long way to go. But but, but, but but it does feel as if what we are doing is potentially working a little bit, and we are incredibly grateful for all parties. Okay McAfee. He was being too nice, too humble. He know this thing is rolling. Listen to when somebody says this, they basically like, I don't want to sound brag adultious, but he said potentially working a little bit, potentially working a little bit. You know what he's really saying. We hit the ground running. Huh. It's all good, vic dog, but everybody flecks on him. Man. So what I took from this is, Man, y'all want it when y'all want it on demand. That's how you want your potatoes. You want them cooked and slice a certain way. Streaming digital that convenience that we all have now dabbled in and realize I can't go back. I can't go back. Oh, the selection of the content that you have and the power of the choice that we have as an audience to be like, I don't want to watch all that. I don't want to sit down at nine am and nah, when I'm on break, I'm about to watch a part of this or a clip, and you gonna give it to me, and it's gonna be exactly what I want because your whole show three hours. Ah, I don't want to talk. I don't want to hear you talking about the Houston Astros. I'm ready for when you're talking about the Baltimore Ravens. Oh. I see the Ravens segment. Got it game over? We in the Jetsons. Y'all. This is crazy, man, love seeing this. It's so our keg now to even think that it still exists. But there was a world where that's all that existed, right where you had to be somewhere and you had to sit down and sit somewhere and watch something. Now I get it with sporting events, and I get it with concerts, and let me tell you this, that's even getting disrupted. Yep. Look at church. Now, church is like first you had to go to church. You had to wear your funeral suit. Remember that little kid. I remember me. I'll tell y'all yesterday, I'll sitting in church. I want God Lord, mama, please, this suit is too big and tight. That is too long and tight, mama. So anyway, we went from that to now. Remember, but the step before where we are now was this step. Ah, y'all not coming to church, just come as you all, So then everybody start coming from the club. Huci mamas. Everybody just looking a mess. RAI hat, T shirt and khakis up in church? Like what up? Christ? I'm like, what church looked a mess? I ain't gonna lie. It did mess with my mind. Like I'm in church, I'm trying to you know, I'm listening Bishop Noel Jones, my guy, love him, and I'm like, yeah, yeah. And then y'all look to the right. What she got on? I looked to the left what he got on? And then I look again over there, what pronoun they got on? What y'all wearing up in here? Like then I started dressing last, And then next thing, you know, I'm like, why am I going? And then now that's where it is. I want to see Noel Jones kick. I'm over here chilling with some crocs on no socks, crazy man. So that's what the game is right now. Bill Gates told us, I'm gonna tell you again. He said content is king back in the late nineties. Then he said everyone is going to be a content creator. That's all, y'all. Anytime you put something online, you put it for public display. Welcome the content creation. You two yep, even you only got two followers, and you one of them on your little fake site, your little little dummy account. You are a content creator and he also they all put together in some eyes that everyone's going to be their own channel. Yeah, so that was part of the few. A while. I was like, let me get up out of here and get where it's going, right, part of the few? All right? So I laugh man when you guys the audience clown McAfee told you go back to the old clips I have, And I laugh when you guys don't understand how this thing is going and how it is now. You're demanding it your behavior is, but your mindset, it's like you don't want to admit what you're doing. So you laugh at content creators and you clown them. And then you also say stuff like, uh, all you do is this Like McAfee ain't gonna be nothing because he don't curse, you know, Stephen ah Man, you just try to get ready for your late night show and talk politics. You're a conservative in drag, you know stuff like that. You know what's crazy about it? You really telling on yourself when you say that. Let me help you out, so the homie don't laugh at you. When you do a show, you do a whole show full of segments. Linear cable, you gotta watch it all or you better be good with your timing and jump in there when they on your topic. But digitally streaming you go exactly where it is. There are markers, time markers all through this telling you exactly where to go and what you want. So in my show, I always do four topics and then probably loosely like ten other ones, but four big topics. I love when people say all you do is this? All you talk about? Is that? I'm like, what is that? I talk about? Everything? Like today, we're gonna talk about Pat McAfee ESPN, were gonna talk about FFS one and all their shows. Then were gonna talk about Marshaun Lynchin, Seattle Seahawks, and Pete Carroll, and then we got a bonus top we can't talk about right now. But the point is we going all around the world and it's on you to go where you want to go. You get to buy your plane tickets. So it's dope man. Good job McAfee hitting the ground running. So are y'all loving, liking, or hating the Pat McAfee show on ESPN? What y'all think of the transition he's made, and what do you think of the key factors to his success so far in that transition? Authenticity, the vulgarity of hearing some curse words on ESPN. Break it down in those comments. Here's another ethic moment of my life growing up. Have y'all ever heard caution bounced rock skate? It is your damn for a rock? What you think? It's the evil side rod of bumping bounce rocks skate? Not lying. I have never ever in my life I wanted to do crime, live the bad life, be a banger, gang bang, nothing, not gonna lie. There's a weird energy that comes to me when that song comes on. I'll be like, whoa evil sorry rider, bump of bous Roska and they from Dorsey to Homie, shout out to all of them and rest in peace to my man Godzo. Okay, let's talk about this right here, probably transition out order after a I was gonna go to the shows, yet I'm coming. I'm coming, I'm coming. I gotta make sure you guys get a book, get one of these books, leave a recurrent donation. Come on, man, I gotta say your name next, Like, I'm gonna say, Stephen right here, look at Steven got his own personalized autograph trophy book that he's gonna read about my life. Never shut up. All right, let's talk about some shows right now. That's talking some good talk on FS one right now. Oh, let's start off with First Things First. That's experiencing significant growth following a schedule adjustment. Yeah, remember they had that. Here we go, Remember they changed their time. And I remember hearing everybody say I always say everybody. Everybody says, but it ain't everybody. But we're like, oh man, he used to come on in the morning. Now it's in the afternoon. That sucks. I can't watch it. Come on, mom me loaf right. I was like, all right, and now First Things First, hosted by Kevin Wiles. Y'all know it is uh. Nick Wright and Chris Brossard achieved this most Watts, MUNP and Bird album album with one hundred and thirteen percent year over year increase in viewership. Now let me break this down real quick, love all three of those guys, wows is the first one I knew? Yeah, Wiles, it was him and Jamie Horowitz. Whoa man? They were Batman and Robbing out there, right, they were just the one two punts that brought us Sports Nation, that brought us first take, brought us undisputed. Yeah, them Kevin Wilder's right there. Kevin Wiles used to come to me and literally when I was on Sports Nation say stuff to me. I was like, you need to do it, because you better. I'm not gonna do that, like not like I us did it. He always just knew how to be on air, how to like make you more concise and like more targeted in terms of what your point is. So always salute to Kevin Wilder. That's my guy, Nick. Right, y'all know John Wick himself, it's sucker looking like John. First of all, I am the biggest fan of John Wick in the world. So every time I see all, be like, man, damn, not only do I like what you're saying, but he got my movie character man Wick. But he kills it right, big brain. It seems like he remembers everything, seemed like he watches everything to remember, but he's killing. And then Chris Bussar coming in with the biggest heart ever, you know, gonna keep the ethics right, gonna make sure you do it. Will respect. And then he got that twang whatever whatever it is, high pitch or twang, I don't know which on it, but it sound dope. Right. So the show right now here, a lot of you guys say that's your favorite show, that's my favorite show over there, But I hear a lot of you guys say the same. Well, obviously by your viewership right now, must be true. So the show's been has seen thirteen because second, the months of double digit year over year growth, which each month in the new time slot surpassing the previous one. That means they runs into the top the mom I'm gonna say, keep on like they're doing that. They are killing okay, so let's put them to the side for now. Now let's bring on out out here Colin Coward and Jason McIntyre show. Remember y'all will clown and Jason McIntyre, j mack Ah, what happened to Joy? We ain't gonna never recover from Joy book? And Jay Mack was always on the show on Fridays, I think already. So j Mack slid right into that position perfectly, and to her ty this most watched month ever and experienced a thirty nine percent year over year increase in viewer's yere so Colin, now what Jason McIntyre beat Colin last year when it was like the transition there. I don't even think Joy was there because there was transitioning if you're saying September to September, right, So, so the Herd is a chief ten consecutive months of year over year viewership growth despite new competition from who anybody in the comics. Pat McAfee ain't the same slot. Yeah, Pat McAfee show on ESPN's slatform. All right, let's put him over there, all right, y'all, No, let's come on back over here. Colin jameson mack. I like that combination of Jay McNew I know what, y'all. Everybody always think you gotta be a man and a woman, black and a white, and you know, Colin, you can't just have another dude up there. But Jay Max come off as a real good fan like. I think that's the spirity brings because Colin comes like, I know it all, I got it, all the answers, and if I don't, hey, I'm gonna die on my sword. I'm gonna plant my flag and I'm gonna do it. And I'm gonna be a big brain about it and hit you and then Ja Mack just come in and be like, it's that deep for you, but for me, it's just a lot more fun. And let's talk through it. I just like j Max's energy on there. I see how they get together. Now let's put them to the site. Now let's go and bring old speak over here. Speak. They used to be speak for yourself, three iterations deep. And now the fourth one, which is this one is Speak featuring Manyo I, Choke, Joy Taylor, and Lashawn Shady McCoy. All right. They also set records with its most watched September ever, up seventy seven percent over a year. All right, so seventy seven percent over last year's September when they were those three and David Helman, Yeah, David Helman, those four. So now they don't move him out. I don't see him there. He does a podcast. Now, who's there? I see Jones a lot? Yeah, I see Jones a lot. So what's his first name? I forgot? That's my god too, not Greg. That ain't Greg, Jennis. I see him a couple of times. I don't know if he there every day, So the article that mentioned him, maybe I alone, all right, so speaking scene continuous growth since it's revamped, with eleven consecutive months of year over year growth in the slot, all right, and it is showing its greatest growth since twenty twenty. That's when I was there, Okay, all right, So I read all on those articles and I was like, damn, that's dope. You know. I am not a hater, So I'm like, dog, I wish y'all success. And I saw three of the shows get set, and I was like, you know, you ever get to the bottom article. You look and you're like, why all the ads there? It's got to be something. Got to say more reating you know what I mean? Nothing? They less undisputed out. So it's interesting. Undisputed is the one show right now that is not doing as well as before. Now before you call it, sorry, whack bum told you all that. They've also faced the most drastic and recent makeover of all those shows, So it's gonna take some time for it to get there, which allows you to have growth, which allows you to have statistics like this that shows after the makeover, you can continue to grow. So let me give them their flowers. As I just did. All the shows are doing better, not all time highs, all time highs a month here, a month there, but not all time highs in terms of the overall success of the show. Certainly not Undisputed, certainly not Colin, just shit, but it September was certainly not Speak. But September was first things first. Yeah, yeah, they ain't ain't a whole enough thing. And most people were saying first things first, best thing they got over there right now? True or false? I do watch the ratings here and there, and I see First Things first, usually ninety percent of time as their number one show, then Colin, then Undisputed, then Speak, and then Carton show. Carton showed is last. They don't even mention that. Oh they didn't mentioned that in the article as well. Should have started there. So here we go. As I give flowers, Remember how you give flowers, guys, Remember how flowers are made. They come with the seeds. You know, they're starting with the seeds of truth and then the dirt. Right, how the sausage is made. Let's talk about this first of all. Before you know anything about these shows, you gotta understand how to read statistics. Okay, so you read these stats, and you don't get aggregate numbers. That is great, but it also can miss construe exactly what's really going on. So I give you an example. We have doubled our growth in terms of viewership on Never shut Up. Yeah yeah, yesterday we had one viewer. Today we got two. You see what I'm saying. Okay, all right, or it can mean like right now, oh man, our ratings have dropped in half in viewership. We lost half our subscribers, marcellus, Come on, yeah, we went from one hundred and twenty five thousand, now we're down to sixty what's that? Six day one six, stay two five, sixty two five damn Columbia faster sixty two five, But sixty two five is way higher than two. You get that. Just keep that in mind when you hear things like this, because this is how no one's doing it with mall in tension. It's just how people receive it. They don't always do that because then people will use this as AMMO and shoot at ESPN, shoot at First Take, and all their shows over there, Pat McAfee, et cetera. Those shows over there, and aggregate numbers are still doing much more. Even Pat McAfee where they said, Hey, slightly disappointed in your linear numbers is still double basically what you're seeing out of First things first, just to be real, despite FS one thing, more cable subscribers than even ESPN, as an article stated last month, which blew my mind. Okay, So to break down all these shows basically, first things first, what works for it for me? And I'm listening to you guys at the end of this what works, what doesn't? What's the best? What's the worst of all of these shows for me? First things first, the best part is they're all in on it together, like it's it's not an act. It's like guys who really get along with each other, that know we're here to entertain and to prop each other all up the best. Okay, I like that. That's dope. And it's a good set, like their set is on disputed Carton speak, they got the best set. Like it just looks fresh right the blue and I think it's a little orange brown in there New York Breaks something like it just looks the best of all the sets. That matters, that really does? They just fit well? Then Greg Jennings is in there too, James Jones that's his name, right, Oh god, I may messed up word? Greg Jennings? Is there too? A lot? I see only Greg, so I'm maybe more people there, but I don't see it every day. Point being that's great about the show. How do they continue to grow? I think they just continue to lean in like together, like they almost just doing this in Unison, And that's how they just keep growing. They ain't tripping, they ain't having all the like craziness and everybody know they laying and let everybody breathe and they laning. I love that about that show. And I would tell you if I saw some crazy. But Wiles is the ultimate to throw up the alley you He like Broussard gonna you know, he get his shot off anywhere. And Nick right, good lord, I don't know what to say about Nick, like he's Steph Curry in too, And that's what they got. They got like an old wisdom and Broussard old g Vett down on the blockhead man, and then also can go out there and still hit the fade or what. And then they got Nick just doing all this. You're likeright, I heard it? That was sick. Go ahead. And then Wiles just sitting there, you know, making sure everybody in they right spots, getting the ball where they want it, you know. Six Sick show. Okay. Also talked about Colin Coward show. What's good about that show to me is the fact that Colin still Colin is gonna go and Collin is the type. Collin is the difference between Key Sean and to to me, and I know him personally, So I'm talking about like personally, not like their careers. I always describe too as they both don't give a damn like give me the damn ball, Like they both ain't really tripping on you, but t O ain't tripping on you and won't check to see how you tripped. Key Sean will check. He still don't care, but he checking to see what You're all right? All right too, just moved on all right. So it's interesting I look at that show like that, like Collins is gonna he gonna do it? He t oh, I said it, Oh you don't like that? Next segment? I love that about it, And then I think that Jason just give them their proper balance, a lighter side, a more fun side. That's good to see because Colin can't be rigid. You know, he can be like locked in and sometimes I seem like Jason unlocks that speak. What goes well for them, it's like it's bright, it's like glossy. It's like whoa Okay, Like you know you it's the Hollywood show. You know how you watch like Entertainment Tonight and stuff like that, and you're like, damn Nick, you know Mario Lopez out to Hommy. You see them all those shows whatever, Access Hollywood all that kind of stuff, and you just see them and you're like, wow, it's like real high level, high out two just give you the layer of the land kind of stuff. So they do that with sports. What's good with them? What helped them keep growing? Like just keep going and keep like they more like three individual people, like three lead singers almost like that's what it is. And I think what's gonna happen is Acho is setting them up more than ever. He's more like I ain't trying to flex fully even though he still gets it off, trying to set them up. Joy Gonna go, Shady gonna go. So it's almost like you're looking at it like what was the name in uh in the not the Temptations? What was at the four Heart the five Heart beats, like one of them kind of things. It's like, nah, all y'all gonna be the lead singer sooner or later. But they just gotta keep going with that undisputed. I really, I really want a better set. That's the biggest show they got. I just want a bigger set. I think that will help them out, uh, because it just looks like first things first looks and speak look like whoa, And then you look at undisputiting like, oh, maybe it's because it's early in the morning. But they got the names, they got the guys. They can get it going better. All right, let me beat this up because I gave them like Flowers gave you the season truth, and I gave you some dirt. Oh you want more dirt? I shall. This is what's interesting about this one whole thing. When I read through this and I was like, dang, you know, it was like I left the Chargers and damn the Chargers turn out to be fourteen and two now they lost in the playoffs the first game. But I was like, damn, when I was there, we were eight and eight. Now this like it's fourteen to two. They better, right, And I look at Speak, and I know a lot of people think that in this game, I'm playing this industry, I'm in that. You gotta hate somebody, you gotta be mad at somebody, you can't be happy for somebody. And I'm like, nah, dog, I'm just gonna call it like I see it, and y'all make the judgment from there. It's funny watching Speak now, which I was a part of for two of the iterations. Remember, I walked into something, and I walked into what Jason Whitlock and Colin had, and that was old and old right. And then I was like old guy and old guy right. They were just going at it. They a little older than me, I says, call them old and Colin left. Why did Colin leave? Two reasons? One the schedule. Two. A lot of land mines on this show, a lot of land mines. Right. Working with Jason Whodlock, you're gonna have to tippy toe a little bit sometimes. And I ain't talking about what you say. I'm talking about what's that? Oh God, Jason, what topic we got today? What we doing today? Right? That's Jason Woodlock. So then they went, you know, Colin left, I came and it was old versus younger, not as old me. Then now we worked through it and it was good, and that's when the show had its highest ratings twenty twenty. That's when I think it was January twenty twenty, right before the super Bowl, the last month for the super Bowl. Because at the super Bowl, y'all disappear. Y'all go home, y'all like I ain't watching no basketball or no damn shows like that, so you go to T and T or something. So that was the last time Speak's been that high. Speak for yourself was that high. And now Speak had a tremendous September and a eleven month cycle of growth trying to eclipse what Jason Woodlock and I did. Now bring that up because after that February comes super Bowl, y'all gone. After that March comes, pandemic. Is never went the same. Then they go back to old versus young during you know, the pandemic and all that afterwards, Old versus young me at Acho. Now y'all been asking, I've been trying to tell y'all, and this is what it is. Why didn't we continue, Why didn't it work? Why weren't those ratings with Acho and I as high as they were Willlock and I. And why weren't Colin and Whitlock's ratings higher than our ratings? Let me tell you this why Ocho and I didn't work as much as y'all be swearing like, oh my, oh was the best I was like, the ratings didn't show it. Y'all never said that about Whitlock because y'all don't like Whitlock or whatever it may be. But Wilocke and I had higher ratings than Ocho and I than what they have right now. But they are better than they were with Me and Ocha. Get this. So here's the thing. Why didn't it work? Because there was a role that all these shows play. Like I said, first thing, First wins because they play their role properly perfectly. Colin is winning because Jason. Jason ain't gonna have reflex on Colin, but he knows his role and Colin knows his thing. So the point is on dispute is still trying to figure out those roles. Plus they just had that makeover. You can see the struggle, Uh carton, show lord help me. I don't know, but I heard Tim Hardaway killed it. I saw him recently and he loved doing the show, so I look forward to seeing him more and whatever else is helping him go. But right now, the ratings are still the same. Every time I look, they still at the bottom, right there, trying to figure it out. So here's the thing about I Chow and now why it didn't work out. Our roles were supposedly defined, but we didn't want to play our roles. For me, my role was supposed to be the o G. My role was supposed to be the big dog, the veteran, or whatever it may be. Now his role would then be the BG, right, the baby gang still or whatever you want to call in the hood, the younger guy, but I chose it's too talented. He's a star. I always say that, y'all ain't gonna ever twist me that dude is talent hit. Now, y'all can talk about this personality, y'all, you wanted it. It is politicis could look when he came in as politics is over here, and I was like, dog, I'm over here, stay there. And you know, he started to move a little different in his politics and stuff. Whatever. We all know his association with Oprah, We all know his uncomfortable conversations, et cetera. Y'all went through that already online. I've seen it. Whoa. But the thing is, we were different, and I embraced that. I Cho didn't fully only because his talent wouldn't allow him. He can't play like he don't know, like you know, if you the VET and then you talking to somebody where they supposed to be the rookie, he ain't no rookie. So that's why it didn't work, because Ocho was on a mission to be the star he's destined to be in terms of ah, right, you know all that I Cho will manipulator, damn prompter. I mean he would make it love of that sucker, got salute that right. So it just wasn't gonna work because and this ain't no stephen A Max stuff. I ain't making none up. I'm telling y'all the truth. Ocho was too good to be like little baby gangster. He was too good to be like that VET. I mean, like the guy gotta to get receipts and gotta get intel from the VET. And that's why it didn't work as well. But I love our conversations. I loved what we were doing. It's just the ratings. The ratings are rig in a way. Y'all gotta understand how the ratings work in some What time are you on, what's your competition, what network are you on, what's the machinery in terms of promotion? And more importantly, how are you guys blending so that audiences can see the chemistry? Right? And if you guys are fighting for different things, it shows right. That's why the old First things first, remember that Chris Carter and Nick Wright, this is doing better. And Chris Carr's a beast and he was great at it. Nick Wright was great at it didn't work. So I don't like it when it has to be one as bad or one is good. And I realized that. And then when they came to me in the negotiations like we're gonna do speak different, and I was like, what's different? Lighter, old, so bright, high altitude flying, you know, taking shots, you know, air drops, boom boom bombs everywhere, hot takes everywhere. I was like, damn, I just left Sports Nation. And you remember Sports Nation changed as all of these shows changed from shel Beado and all our craziness and fun and Colin and Max to like LZ Granderson and Carrie Champion and me. Come on, y'all, that's how that went. So I knew that wasn't long. I had to leave that show for that. So respect to all what they're doing over there, I'm looking forward to seeing how it all plays out, and I wanted to clear the air on how things are going, especially now when you can look at speak which is now went from old versus old, to old versus not as old, to old versus young Icho and I to old no no no young versus young versus young, and right now, that's their winning formula. Let's see how far they go with that. So what do y'all think that's attributed to all these show success? Tell me your favorite show, tell me the worst show. Tell me what you love about the show, tell me what you hate about the show. But also tell me what's up with Undisputed? Is it good? Great? Love it? Like it? Hate it? Where is it right now? I know it's early on them starting their reset, but let's see where they are right now. And do you think Pat McAfee's competition will ever sneak up and take the MAC out? Which y'all think of that? Respect to you guys man log on the Project transition dot org. Log on the Project transition dot org. Get this book right here, never shut up, leave a recurrent donation and guess what you're not gonna get this just the book. Not just the book. You're gonna get this. Wow, you see that? I autograph that, so I'll hook you up. I tag it Rainbo teach him how to tag Gray Moo. All right, man, let's talk about Marshawn Lynch used to tag people on that field that woh be smoked, used to run hard. It looked that way. Well, he spoke openly. He was on Shannon's Sharps podcast. He was on Club Shay Shay Oh Shay, talking about his past relationship with Russell Wilson, a head coach Pete Carroll, when they were both all of them, I should say we're with the Seattle Seahawks, he said. I wouldn't be the right person to speak on their relationship because I didn't funk with them, and he didn't say funk okay, So Lynch admitted that he didn't have a good relationship with both Wilson and Carroll. He said, I ain't funk with Pete, and then I mean, Russ was just a quarterback for me. Now he talked about that because everybody's curious, like especially because Russell Wilson hasn't landed properly on his feet other than getting paid in Denver in terms of performance. So remember when they were all together in Seattle, everybody was chirping, And it's so crazy how people get it wrong. The narrative back then was jealousy towards Russell Wilson, mar Shawn Legion of Boom, all of them were jealous of Russell Wilson because he was the quarterback. He was the man, he was the savior, he was the nice guy. So all y'all that say something against him is a hater because he's the man. And I'm like, what that is so silly that happens to me when I talk about Stephen A. Smith or Skip, Are you a hater? I'm like, dog, how am I hater? I'm not a hater. One, I'm not a hater, but two, I don't compare myself to other people. But everything they have, I've had the money, the shows, like you know, Mike. I think Mike Golick was the first athlete that I remember having a daily show you know who was number two? Yeah? Man, you know all the money that these cats making. Now, y'all gotta go back to early two thousand, like two thousand, two thousand and one. I got receists like that. Only reason I say that is because we don't like Lynch. Mob. I know Lynch he ain't talking about he ain't hating on Russell, was well, ain't. No, don't ask the question and if you don't want the answer, because not everybody hating, right, So uh, he was like, dog, I respect Russell as a player and as a teammate. Quote, anything that I say is gonna come off as malice or as if I'm a hater. And then that just all of a sudden handicaps how we hear the truth or his version of the truth, whatever that may be. Everybody can't contribute to the conversation because ah, you hating? Why am I hating? Because I'm not a quarterback because I'm Marshawn Lynch makes no sense. So I remember being in those moments back then, because I even went to the game where Tony Romo Bosta snap. I was covering the game and I was like, damn, And it was weird because the dynamics. I knew the real from the fake, and I knew that everything that was said about Russell Wilson was coming from a sincere place, authentic place. And I was like, why everybody think that these cats hate knowing Russell Wilson. They're saying it almost in unison, and they're all in different parts of this organization or different parts of his team, the defense saying it and the offense, and they were talking to cold because they ain't want to be haters. So I understood that. So now you know he's saying it just like it is he says about Russell Wilson, about Pete Carroll quote. But as far as anything else, no, there's no. You can't pick up the phone and call old Boy or nothing. Talking about the relationship Russell Wilson Pete Carroll. You can't connect with them, didn't connect with him when he was with him. Okay, So we're in this conversation not just to break down what he said, but the dynamics of saying it. You work with somebody, you know the real on them, but they playing that role and everybody believed that role with you, Like when they say cut, I see that when they say, all right, camera's off. I see that you say anything, you're the hater. It's just like the homeboy homegirl that sees your friends significant other in them streets cheating. And then you go back and say something without like video and I mean like sexy sexy red video, stop playing, come on ray j in there or something right, Wait, am minute, you ain't got that going. Then they're like, stop hating you just magaze. You ain't got no man. They're like, oh god like, and it's this dynamic going on that I don't like. And I will always push back. Y'all call me a hater, you can call me whatever. I will push back and say dog re receipts now none yng and read more receipts as they continue to pile in. But the point is, I don't hate, and I know lynchwab I don't hate, and I wish y'all would have listened to him, then y'all would have heard the real, the dope about this situation. So we can't say that we want somebody to come into this real and authentic and then when they try to give you a whiff of it, you say, oh, I can't stand that stence a lot of people try to blame it on the ball controversy. He was bad because he ain't hit the ball. End of that doc. Russell Wilson for the Seattle Seahawks was not someone they believed in the person. Russell Wilson the player was somebody that obviously was productive and it was a key part to them winning. But y'all don't understand on the team their teammates. You don't know. You don't know their name, you don't know their life, you don't like them. All different pools of people. Right now, if you go up to any player and give him a team photo, I guarantee you not a single soul ever would get every guy on that photo. Right. Matter of fact, I'm a up it. I say, over under five of a team photo of fifty three dudes, I say, you wouldn't get over forty eight. I couldn't. I couldn't imagine the guy that could, Brady Ryan Fitzpatrick from Harvard. That's it. But the point is I looked at these comments not to really go in on Russell, not to go in on Pete, because I wasn't there. I can't do that, can't go there and say yeah, Marshan. But I'm just glad that this distance has occurred between Marshawn Russell. Now, y'all see Russell for who Russell is, y'all see Marshan for who Marshawn is. You know, he has nothing to gain from this, and he's still saying the same thing. It makes you have to convert to what he was saying then, instead of him having to all of a sudden say yeah, I am a hater or you guys being right, not a hater. Just kind of told you the truth, as I always say, too early. I'm not a hater. I just tell the truth too early. So why do you think they all had that beef? To me, It's just different personalities, Like you know, Russell Wilson is more manicured than Marshawn. Lynch just Greatpoul Palm versus French ash yellow. That's the mustard difference, right, So I think it's that. And what do you think is between Marshawn and coach. Coach must have told him something that didn't come true. Usually that's when players don't like coaching, when oh you lie, doll, I'm good like you be good on them, like, yeah, call a play I'm good. I'm good that or the fact that he didn't give him that ball and that shine in that moment and didn't try to lie, but or not that you didn't give me the ball, but you lie about it, right you over here trying to make up a new story tomorrow. Well it was because of the time and the time was running out, and they came out in goal line defense. I heard that kind of sound, like how you know you hear stories like stephen A and Max, and you'd be like, all right, the first time you believe I believe stephen A. The first time he said it, even though I knew I knew the truth, I was like, all right, that's sellable, like believe then in terms of like you're gonna get that out there, people gonna believe it. I believe it. Then you just kept listening. Nope, even if you love him like I do, like everybody does, he's number one right now, you're like, wait a minute, number two, the second version, don't go with the third version, the third version, don't go with the first version, the first version, don't go with the fourth version. Man, stop talking about it. Let it be So. I think that may be Marshawn Lynch looking at coach like, man, you stop talking about this damn one play and making up different reasons why you don't give me the ball when we know that ain't the reason. Ooh, did I bring a parallel together? One of the best songs of DJ and I hate to do it to y'all right now, is we like the cause God that go boom, take and Bunny. I'm not lying. If you play that at the right time, you might lose everyone because they all gonna pass out like ah because the base in that sucker still wrong. I don't know what they were hitting, what drum machine they had back then? Oh, but it was banging like this book is banger, baby? What's up? Bang right here? Never shut up? Go to Project transition dot org. Become a recurring donor just leave a weekly monthly low mouth pennies on the dollar. Whatever you can do, it doesn't matter. You support these kids, support this community. We're gonna take these kids outside their locale. They're going across the world to go just visit, have exposures and experiences. So make sure you can help us do that at Project transition dot org. Stop watching this damn YouTube for free, kidd let's go into this topic right here. I'm gonna get in and out of this topic right here, because supposedly we already tired of this. Yes, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelson, Yes, yeah, yeah, I'm not tired of it, but I know why y'all tired of it. So it makes me tired because I'm tired of hearing y'all talk about how tired y'all are. All right, So here we go. This article talked about the growing attention that relationship is getting, and it's interesting. I don't know if they're dating or not, and don't care, but if they are, all right, okay, are they dating? I mean, in today's world, you hang with somebody popular for as long as you can. That's good. That could be dating. That could not be all right. So NFL talked about this, Travis Kelcey, Jason Kelsey, they all talked about this, all right. So here's a few quotes out there before I beat it up. Given the interests and ratings that is bringing, the NFL and his TV partners were always going to take advantage of a sudden celebrity interests. You know, I resist this, and I'm a fool for doing it. People love celebrities and people love attention. I love people, but the attention I love is like personalized, Like if we hanging out together, you're gonna be like, Yo, Wiley crazy that's my nickname, wild Style that dude. Those are some weird nicknames for somebody who's an introvert, because I'm not. I'm crazy, like I really go there, but I'm not trying to go there for all y'all receipts because I'm old school, like dog. The best Instagram account I've ever seen in my life, No lie is right here. I protect the guilty so they all know they're good unless they come at me. Then why y'all? But the point, that's why nobody come at me, y'all. For real. My IG account up in here, I got it all. Oh my god, been there seeing it and it's crazy because I'm like, damn. Sometimes I'm like, I wish IG was out when I was doing all of this, and it'll be out here, you know. The time I'm on stage with Outcasts, who is the biggest selling rap group of all time, just declare that this week I'm hanging out with Where's that video where I got like one polaroid. I think somewhere sucks DJ for Kanye when he just steal you know, the old Kanye is y'all want to call him, I ain't even known. That's my point. It's all up here now. I give y'all some positive stories. It's some crazy ones to point being NFL supposed to lean into this. What do you think they're supposed to do? They ain't me, They ain't like, let me just hide out because I done did too much and nobody know about it, so let me just chill. NFL, Like Nah, Taylor Swift, yay, save us from Kaepernick, we had to go through and we leaned into that. Save us from Donald Trump, And we had to lean into that or avoid whatever you want to say, BLM. We had to lean into that or avoid like NFL was getting ragged off for a few years there by everybody politics and everybody's belief system. And now Taylor Swift is in the building and all she does sing songs and people over that too. Y'all can't be happy when one way or the other, y'all gonna find a way to complain about the NFL. So everybody's talking that craziness about it right now. So Travis and Jason on their fabulous podcast New Heights talked about it as well. They say, I think it's fun when they show who is all at the game. I think it brings a little more to the atmosphere, brings more to what you're watching. But at the same time, they're overdoing it. They're overdoing it a little bit for sure, especially my situation. I think they're just trying to have fun with it. Okay. Jason finished it by saying, I just think the NFL is not used to having celebrities come to the games. Basketball has to figure it out. They're all courtside, they're sitting there. He's showing once or twice, and then they get back to the game. Okay, now they say that it's not like, here's another quote. It's not like Swift was shown after every player any thing. But seventeen shots of the suite, as the Kelsey's later said, is indeed a lot of cutaways. Could it be ten yes, could it be twenty five yes? He's saying, basically, they kept showing that sweet more, they were showing them down passes. They weren't showing the game at all, and all that okay, So the NFL responded to it. NFL had to respond to this because they're like, look, we frequently changed our bios and profile imagery based on what's happening in and around games as well as culturally. The Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce news has been a pop cultural moment we've leaned into in real time as it's an intersection of sport and entertainment, and we've seen an incredible amount of positivity around the sport. Thank you, NFL. Call me a company man, but thank you God Lee. It is a pop cultural moment, admit that, and it's a positive one if you stop hating it ain't the other one. The last ones we had were racism, right, Slavery is a plantation. The NFL is a plantation, slavery plantation. Like, the NFL been through it, y'all, Like it's okay, it's okay, brief, let the NFL be Let them highlight some pop singer and she hanging out with their star future Hall of Fame, tight end and let it be. And then NFL finally buttoned it up by saying, the vast majority of our content has remain focused on the game, our players, in a variety of other initiatives, including since y'all NFL in the same position as me, all you want to talk about us is Skipper Stephen Damo ourselves. NFL says this, Well, we got a toy story, fun day, football all cast, we got international games, we have more y'all watching that. Y'all talking about that. No, they ain't even talking about toy story. You're talking about Taylor Swift. People always telling themselves. That's one thing I know. My coach told me that. He say, if you want to know about people, to listen to them. They telling themselves, even through them bitching, even through them complaining, you can tell them like oh man, my wife always said that when she said something about some I don't like that. I don't like that. I want that. I was like, why are you mad? Then? So what you mean while I'm mad because I don't like it? I was like, so, why are you talking about it? You don't like it? You usually go around giving energy to stuff you don't like it and talk about it. Stupid man, y'all me, I ain't got time for y'all negativity. I ain't tie of y'all negativity and the NFL doesn't either. So y'all agree with the coverage. Does the NFL get celebrity camera crazy? Yeah, I give you that, but they should to a point. I don't know. Do you agree with it? This is a pop cultural moment. I do. And do you think most NFL fans want to be rid of this story? Or shall they continue on? Stop acting like you want to get rid of something, and then you realize, damn it, that was fresh. That's like everybody who ever goes into their closet, like I'm giving away all these old shoes. Oo them, Jordan's too. Yeah, I ain't warre them in two years. I now I'm gonna keep them. No no, no, Noah, give them away? Well, you ain't gonna wear them looking at them their stuff though, Cay, I'll give him way soon. You give him away? What's first thing you say? Dann it? Why I get him? Shorgans one? You better think ahead? All right? Fuckus? Some comments, funckle, some comics hit. I supposed to be a lunch soon. Bro. If this is about Dion, if Dion stayed and get the right players, he could build something like saving that Bama. Bama didn't kick off till I think the third year. Oh, definitely he can stay there. Definitely, he can make car Colorado destination. He does not have to go somewhere and carry the torch. He can stay at Colorado and light it or relight it. All right? Uh, somebody else wrote, I still ride with Jason Widlock too, but we beefing. I know it's crazy, Like I don't hate anybody. It's you say something I don't like. Why would I hate you? You? I hate what you just say it at most and maybe I just disagree with it. But like dog Winlocke and Dion, Me and him when I I'm off, like dogs Lean, Dion and Long, You're wrong on that one. Don't down that hill. But went like, ain't dead to me? Now you got y'all probably like you got more to talk about. That's what this okay? C J. Stroud? Uh, when should we? I guess you said, when should be? You need to take the C two tests? Damnit? Ray, You're right? When should be examining who invented the test and what the purpose of the test was, and if the test translates to today's football. Test is probably outdated, similar to leather helmets. No, the test is kind of new. Damnit, or how to read your comment. I should have known by that. All right, let's get to Brady versus Belichick. Bill is who we thought he was. He ran Brady out of town. Bill wanted all the credit. You got it, Now take credit for these also, that is a good one. I can't lie he wanted him out of town when Jimmy g was Jimmy g in not right now, So it was a different time. But I understand what you're saying. People under estimated Brady's leadership and him being the guy that keeps the locker room together. Facts. No one would have tolerated Belichick if Brady wasn't in the locker room. Facts. Aaron Rodgers BS, thank you for referring it as jokes. Skipping Shannon gets sensitive when Rogers talks about Pfiser and stuff. We're all different, so I'm not gonna judge them forgetting sensitive because you know, if your if your heel is, oh care about you getting a jab or not a pharma and Pfeiser. I don't think you got kids like oh, Skipping Shannon, you man got you got kids. You ain't over here talking like that. By no damn vaccine? All right, last one mister know it all, just mad. He ain't Dayton Taylor since he went to a concert and tried to shoot his shot. Oh, I forgot Aaron Rodgers tried to shoot the shot at Aaron Interesting. Damn he jealous of Travis Kelsey. Travis Kelsey do got it all? He does have every box check. There's only one other player that I ever met that had every box check like that. Girls used to love him too. His name is David Ben look him up, twenty year long snapper or call him o dB. Went to cow looked like a model. Oh he dated Pam Madison. I forgot that told you he checked every box I forgot that. This dude was fresh. You know when you at the homies, just like every one of my homegirls, they all in lung dog like what you doing to them? Shut up? Yeah, that's my teammate. Shut up. So that kind of all right charade? You know how we finished every show with a Wiley is something. Yeah, if it doesn't challenge you, it won't change you. Oh say it again, if it doesn't challenge you, it won't change you. That's and I was looking for. So I was like, Damn, I ain't ever been changed by something that wasn't challenging. I ain't got it yet. I'm thinking like everything and challenge doesn't always got to have a negative connotation, Like I think there's some positive challenges like ooh my spelling bee, oh I got. I just got chills my spelling bee I had. And then the first time I had to take this academic decathlon test, all these nerves like me. We all had to go to the school and take tests against each other. And it wasn't even that sat we were like in the fourth fifth grade or something. I had hives. I was so nervous, And that was a challenge and a positive right, but it changed me. It let me know. I immediately knew as a youngster, it's some smart people out here, way smarter than me. So let me close the gap between them and me, and let me widen the gap between me and my dumb ass homies over here. Don't even want to study talking about starter jackets. Shut up, Okay, it's fresh. How long were we gonna talk about your jacket? You see these feelings too, No, man, come home, they fresh. Let's go. Let's go fifty states. What's the capitals? Let's go Kansas, man, Lotto elast no topeka, damn it. So we used to just get into bikes like that was a nerve fighting for nerddom oh man. But things gotta challenge you, good or bad, ugly, I don't know. It just gotta make you change. Get out that comfort zone, get out that normal space right, make you take a step overreach, stretch out them hamstrings, as they say, coach like you stride and stretch your milk. Baby. You gotta do that in life, man. You gotta be challenging all things we do. Because if it doesn't challenge you, I ain't gonna lie. It's simple, y'all. It won't change it all right, y'all. That'll do it. For more to it, check the show notes for all the information on our topics today. Today, I want to keep the conversation. Go on. Let's talk. Find me on all socials at Marcel's Wiley More Too is a production of Dan Patrick Production That Dude Entertainment and Workhouse Media. 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