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Yeah. I know this is like taboo. This is bad to come into a show with low energy, but y'all know what happened to me yesterday. Y'all watch that game from from Golly whoa. Can we play a little better football at the end of the game. Ah, we be undefeated if we just finished the games. Good lord, these Chargers. Ah, y'all know, I'm gonna talk through that now, but I'm also gonna give y'all some love. And I need some love today because yesterday hurt. And this has never shut up. Where we talk lessons through sports, not football, necessarily not playing foot football at the end of the game. Stop throwing picks, stop getting up sacks, stop throwing the ball out of bounds. Undefeated three games we lost just like that, And we cover the media like the media covers everybody and everything else with our same energy. Man, thank you guys for real rocket with your boy and picking up my spirits. I could feel the energy already. And y'all know this show is being picked up by bet Us. Yes, we're being sponsored by them. Go to wiliwins dot com. Always throwing up gang signs. Just talk Wileywins dot com. Right now, I'll hook you guys up one hundred and twenty five percent side up bonus so we can compete for some change. And tomorrow we gonna debut Wiley Weindnesday. But we're gonna spell it like wins money and this Wednesday, you get it through the It's gonna be amazing, right, we got prop bets and just money line. I'm keeping it simple. I'm gonna tell you gonna win, who gonna lose? Like yesterday I said everybody, Cowboy's gonna win, no idea. Oh man, don't bet on me, bet against me. You might win some money that way. All right, y'all, I know we start off every show with what's up with that dude? Well, yesterday was game day in the Wiley House. Good day any dogphs in house? Any dogson. However, my kids are competitive. I ain't that competitive. Don't let me fool you. I'm giggling through everything I do, even on the football field in the NFL. I had jokes my kids about that life. They get serious. I told my son yesterday, I say, you know today, were going to the game today, let's go. He doing his bottle flip dude, whoever that guy got him, saying let's go? Is he do that? Let's go? All right? And then he told his sister, the four year old, that she can go. She said, it's game day. She went like this with her hair. She started flinging her brains a rest ah, She's like, okay, ran to get her jersey and stuff. Now we have another child in the house. Are three year olds. He ain't going them. Yellow jacket securities will work overtime. If she showed up in the game. She can't sit still. She don't know how to act. She got this little demon like quality sometime like Chucky from child play, where nothing I say is nothing I say makes her stop. I'd be like Olivia stop, Olivia, no more ya ya. So she ain't going to game till she get that little demon out of her. Anyway, they ran right to her room and told her we going to the game to day. You can't go because you don't listen all the time because you're too young, but you'll get there one day. She was like, a daddy, I can't go to the game. I'm like, you can't cry every time. You're not going to the games right now. They didn't go to the games when they were your age either, so hilarious. But anyway, we went to the game, man, and the first thing riding up, no lie, We riding my kids watching the little TV in the car, and then they looked up. They said, a lot of cowboy fans. Daddy. I was like, yeah, yeah, you gonna see a lot of cowboy fans, just like we don't see any charge. They were thinking about taking off their jersey and they chaining all that. I was like, come on, y'all, ain't how it goes. They're the road team. La is a better city than Dallas had to do that, and they wanted to come out here on VAK right. Anyway, it was a good game. I can't lie because it was close competitive. Herbert was off and that's hard for me to say because I love me some Herbie, but Herbert was off and those were points, a lot of points. Coaches, coach. If he don't do better, he gone. You already know. So I ain't even gonna try and kill him or nothing. It's just too much gambling, too much talent, too much wasted opportunity. You know he gonna be going if he doesn't fix this. Anyway, this is not personal, But Herbert wasn't Herbert yesterday. I don't know why was it the broken finger? On the off hand, I'm trying to think if I'm a football quarterback and like, do I need this hand? I noticed it? Look at this, I noticed this thing crooked? Okay, but do I need it? Because he just missed too. Herbert throws dog dimes and he was throwing Nichols yesterday. I was like that, ain't it all right? So anyway, only other thing that happened in there, other than getting bashed by it was a lot of Cowboys fans like eighty twenty ninety ten, it felt like, but it wasn't the same in terms of the noise, Like they weren't overwhelming us with the noise like Raiders games when they do something it's loud. Steelers game's loud. I ain't catch that with the Cowboys, but they were deep. They were deep. It was insane. My wife. The only other thing is my wife is such a nice lady supporter, but she's she's not even passive aggressive. She just won't say what she really feels, and she'll leak it out, which is I guess classic passive aggressive. But she doesn't leak it out in a negative way. It just comes out in all these weird versions like this. So my wife is over where we sit. I have eight season tickets that are right there in the front row of the end zone. Why because I wanted the NFL experience. Why because when I played in the NFL, I was jealous of the fans up there pounding drank, banging dogs and just chilling. I was like, wait a minute, I got a stinger in my neck and a suckle over there taking a double to the head, and I'm like, one day, baby, I mean, these sacks feel cool, and making this run tackle behind the line of scrimmage amazing, y'all cheering for me. I take it, but damn I take a double too. So soon as I retired, I remember the day I knew I was gonna do this. I was in Kansas City. We were playing the Chiefs, going down that little pathway to the whole stadium where they're all barbecuing and tailgating, and it's just red and smoke everywhere. Just everybody got on red and everybody barbecuing. And I remember looking at people in their eyes and they were just sitting there like and they beat us, and they were just like, this is amazing. And I remember in that moment it just sustaining my I said, I'm gonna tailgay hard when I get done with this. I'm a party hard and watch the NFL games. It's so fun to be at the game without pressure of playing in the game, win and lose, Chargers, I'm still gonna go home. It's gonna be the same reality. Ain't like when I played. That was a whole different reality when you won or lost. So I love going but I sit in real seats. Yeah, my wife calls him gin pop bougie. I was like, she'd be like, yeah, he likes sitting in gin pop. But basically me and I like being around the fans, the crowd, talking to people. People come up to me selfies, what's up? Love, I just do it like I love it and our wife yesterday she leaked again. So we're sitting there and I can feel the pressure and she want a sweet. Sorry, I kind of buried the lead. She wants to sweet and she don't want to say it, and I'm like, I don't want to do it, but she like this. So Mariah's getting tired. This a night game. She's starting to lay down do this. I was like, you about to go to bed? She said, I said, this is a good game. She said. She was like tired, so she laying on us. We're watching the game, and then my wife was like, yeah, she's tired. She's kind of tired of just laying here in these seats. Probably probably want to stretch out in the suite or something. I say, we down three? Can I live? So stipid, So all of basically, if y'all ever see my screen shots and my selfie shots changed to a suite. She won, But right now I am winning that game. Like the Cowboys beat the Chargers. I don't know why I cared too much because I'm a Cowboy too as well as the Charger. So it was fun to see it. All man, good game though, I give it the Cowboys that they needed that game. We needed it too, And I know coaches like, please finish one of these deals. All right, y'all know this show is powered by you win. It's powered by Project Transition dot org. Go to Project Transition dot org. Just leave your email. I see you, guys, Robert, I saw you out there. I saw Jesse do it too. Leave your email. It doesn't matter. All love to support this team, to make this team grow and go. But also you can leave a donation or recurring donation. You leave a recurring donation weekly, a monthly. I send you this book, all right, y'all, So be a part of the team to help Project Transition grow and go. Let's do it, all right, Let's get to the first topic right here. This might be the criminal show. Right here. We got a lot of bad stuff happening, rotten dirty right now. We saw the Rams starting cornerbread, I said, starting corner back for the lost Angelus Rams. Derrion Kendrick.
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They call him a little DK growing up. He got arrested in La twelve hours after beating the Arizona Cardinals on the football field. All right, pulled over by law four. Ye all right, who ain't no worst feeling in the world. What is worse than this feeling other than physical pain when you hear when you hear a siren and it ain't complete, you be like yesterday, I was at a red light, no lie on my phone, red light on my phone, and I look and it was a cop and he was looking at me like this, and I was like, he was like he might be looking at me like, boy, you better not take off of that light in that phone by light you up. So I was like, nah, man, all good, I'm not violating anything, but Kendrick, you were. They pulled you a record burst, pulled off her. And then every time I pull I pull over fast, I'd be like. They'd be like, no, keep going, keep gone, try flower traffic pastor like her guard. I was like, you ain't gonna try to set me up for no damn high speed chase. I ain't going nowhere. So I just sitting there right and then always roll the windows down, all music off, car off. I know why do people resist this part being stubborn? Oh I got rolled the window down. Oh I gotta put my hands up here. Oh I gotta turn this down. Oh I got you the car. I'm like dog you want to get shot up, dogs, do all the stuff you think he may want. How about that. Let's start there. So now I'm all like this, I'm all locked in. I'm like I'm at the DMV right drivers training, I'm ready. And then you know he like, uh, license registration. But with Darien Kendrick gets what happened? Licensed registration? Sir? Can we see your car? Search car? Guess what they found? He had a traffic violation that turned into a gun and marijuana charge. Good this right, Dirty two fourteen in the morning got a felony charge of carrying a concealed weapon. Will rams no comment, of course, what can you say bother than damn ignorant? What else they gonna say? And Kendrick, we know he is? He a ball or two? He's pretty good. Twenty twenty two Draft already caught up in this riding Dirty NFL made me think about let me not judge, because I've been in that position before. Now, this is what's crazy about life. When you do something and don't get caught, and then someone does the same exact thing and doves get caught. You could say grace and mercy, but then are you really thinking this universe is showing favoritism like that. I'm just asking the question because sometimes I want to say yes, and then I'm like, but why am I special? When that person not special? Then I'd be like, nah, I don't think you that high on the horse, brother, Like, don't think you that guy? You know? So then I'm like, but why do he get caught? And I ain't get caught because I used to ride around with a gun concealed weapon. I used to ride around the gun now, not marijuana. I didn't do marijuana. Drank yeah, check the trunk his bud likes not now, but back then, right, So I had that drink back there in the trunk. I'm like, we going, We're gonna go. We ain't have door dash when I was growing up. We gonna. I'm bringing the drink dog. We ain't ordering nothing. And if you ain't got it, I got it. That's how we used to roll. But I had that thying in there. Now. I've told this story before buying that gun because I was young. I was scared because I was like, people get robbed and killed where I'm from, and they ain't got no money. Imagine if you got some money, I thought, I was gonna be a real target for real. My boy talked me into it, and I ain't put up much resistance From that point. I'm riding around Buffalo for a couple of years dirty, taking it into the facilities. Yes, in the car, never got pulled over, never got searched, never got discovered. But the point of it is I never got in trouble. I never got caught. He did. I don't know explain that beat that up in the comments. I literally don't know what that dynamic is with belief. I can, I can guess, I can hypothesize, but I don't know for real, Like is there something to it? Because I see that happen a lot, right and vice versa. I've been caught for some stuff and you ain't got caught for I know how the gang go, don't trip, but why carry it? I think in commonality me, Garrion, anybody else whoever gets caught up like this, is that you really, at some point don't think or feel connected to the consequences whatever that is. You could call that a lack of exposure, ignorant, stupidity, foolishness, you can keep naming them, but I'm telling you I've been in that position before, where I had it all on the line. I'm in the NFL, I'm a second round draft choice, I'm playing, I'm balling, and I'm still doing something that could sacrifice and compromise it all because just get rid of all of it. Weird, right, You ever been in that position, like you're doing something. I guess most people cheating would be the one like what I just saw yesterday, don't cheat on the one you want to keep with one that you don't want at all. They said it way better than that, but basically, watch out because you're gonna have to be with the one you cheating with. You want that. You may want to hit that, but you do you want that. So that was the point of it, right Ah, Other than that, Like I don't know what people do in common. That is just like everyday dog, you're really giving it up. But then you watch the news like I can't believe that dude had that great job and he ended up doing that on the side, Like it's just a weird dynamic with human beings where you could have it all, you work forever to get it all, You got to that place and you do something so silly and meaningless like this has no meaning in his life right now, riding around the streets with a gun. We gonna do y. I'm just waiting, dog. You look, I worked out twenty two years homie to go to the NFL, and I made it. But you know what, ain't nobody gonna catch me slipping at the red light? Nope? Got something for him? Did he watch minutes? Did he see cousin Harold s I get out the car, okay, get out the car. Ain't going out like that? Man? Do you p people really understood? Like stop watching TV? Have you ever seen a real shooting? Have you ever been in a gun rage with a fake shooting? And see how fact if you do anything? Yeah, bye bye, dog. This ain't this ain't slow motion, This ain't special effects. This ain't effects. The things coming so all this like I'm prepared and like at the house, I get it. Somebody breaking it to your house? Hey man, hey you you if you breaking my house, you're not walking out. I don't care if you ran out or not. And you ain't take nothing. You the alarm scared you? Oh I got outdoor missiles. Something gonna get you. You gonna get it. But at the red light, dog don't or get it properly licensed, keep it in the proper place, etceter or go through the proper steps. So I just thought this was interesting one to talk through it a little bit, because, Uh, I think we risk it all that we worked for in many ways. I want you to beat it up in the comments, tell me some stories, or tell me some things you did that on the side you were risking it. Oh, oh, it's gonna be a fun. Well. I'm beating in comments heavy, get a hole, little go. I just can't hold because I'm back and I'm the man with sol the cumber. Tone them, but back back to the day after this attacked them, back them. You remember that's all said it off by big Daddy. Can't get this? First of all? What did he say? Seriously, what did he say? Get a whole lock? Ho? But that that was that era where everything had a whistle at the end, public enemy, all of them all. Oh, that was an epic era in rap music. I loved it, oh man. And I also love Project Transition dot org. I love the transition to Project Transition dot org. Right there. Uh, leave a donation, you guys, recurring donation will get this book. Just be a part of the team. Leave an email. We need your support, Ity, biddies need your support as I go out there and help them discover their greatness. Yes, let's talk about Antonio Brown who discovered this greatness and forgot about it. It seemed like uh many a years ago. Seems like what's going on Antonio now? Former NFL player ball or boss Hall of Famer. Give it to him. He gonna be one rested in Florida over the weekend for child support negligence. Yes, so, Wiltrice Jackson, his ex said, I'll be having some jokes Wiltris. They don't make that name no more good lowd what eighteen hundred wiltris? Anyway, she says she wanted him arrested because of his unpaid child support. Yes she did, she says, because he quote unquote has been acting untouchable. Now he owed her thirty one thousand dollars in unpaid child support, which most people are thinking Antonio Brown got that right, but he ain't paying her the child support necessary. So she said he was making a mockery of the situation and that's why she filed because Brown wasn't paying the support. All right, saw all of that cool, cool, cool. Here's her quote. I do him arrested because right now he's making a mockery out of the judge, out of everything because he feels like he's untouchable. As I said, now, let's talk about this, because y'all know, I only brought this story up not to talk about Antonio Brown. Talk about them damn itty bitties and the turmoil. Those kids are gonna be raised up on, raised up in and then asked, requested, demanded to blossom in that soil where these seeds are going to be stepped on constantly because of this turmoil. Anybody had to go through situations like this, any of you guys from separated homes, broken homes, you know what I'm talking about, or the dynamic that's happening now where there's involved parents versus present parents, And I'm gonna talk about that right these scenes is being stepped on daily when you have this type of issue. And I know firsthand, because when you don't have both parents together, both parents present, there will be some issues gear wrong. Tet and I love when I talk to other parents, and I love when we had that cocktail party and people say, no, I'm an involved parent and we co parent and everything is fine, And I just sit there and say, must we be pleasant this whole night? Or can we talk some gangster shoe because ain't no way. If you've ever been that kid, or thought of that kid in that kid's feet, in that kid's shoes, in that kid's mind, is that kid thinking everything is fine? Give you this example. Every single day it feels like I have three hundred and forty seven million decisions to make involving my kids, and half of them when they're right there present, daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy. I mean, it's in one minute. I hear my name ten times, if we're talking, if we hanging ten times weapons, if you're not there, they say your name. If they say your name, you're not there, you answered, you heard them. We talk about this position so often from the parents level and how well the parents are getting along, good or bad about the iteddy biddies. What about the itty biddies is sitting there like they're now being challenged and coached to actually not even call out for you because they know you're not there, or in some real contention situations, not call out for you because it will make their situation worse because Mama or daddy don't want to hear your name. I went through this. One of the reasons I have an uber commitment to family now is because of how my family dynamics started. As you guys know, I have four kids. I would talk about three little itdy biddies a lot, but the fourth one older than me. Morocca is twenty four, but she older than me. Morocca was born and raised separately from me and her mom. She lived with her mom most of the time, but she stayed with her dad some of the time, especially the early years I had her. At the longest time I ever had Morocca was almost a year when she was like a year two years old. Other than that, summers other than that, vacations other than that, weekends in the NFL. And I can speak from experience. And you know how I can speak from this experience. Not only would I witnessed, not only what I went through and how it was tearing me apart, how many times I was in court paying my child support. Yet this ain't that story, but damn it, going through it, just paying lawyers, paying child support, pain, everything, just to try to stay involved. But it couldn't be present active player. We broke up, she's on the other side of the country. WHOA, you're talking about pain, pain, pain, pain and pain. That's all I kept doing, and I remember and getting caught up almost in my pain, my involvement. And then when she got of age, we started talking about how she felt lord and she couldn't even go to those places. Fully, I don't see it. I didn't see it because she would get lit up with emotion every time she get close, because she had tucked that away, she already conditioned herself to not discuss those things and not reach out, to not call for daddy because it wasn't always well received. Just wanted to have a little conversation on this iddy bitty perspective because parents a lot of themselves and a lot of their friends in the same dynamic, the same situations, thinking we're gonna break up and everything's gonna be smooth. Speak on this level right here, when that kid who needs you to rear them, to guide them, doesn't have you there with your hand on the wheel, where you think they're going, where you think that vehicle's going out of control, wrong lane, going too fast, not properly trained, etc. Not trying to throw guilt on your parents and trying to throw reality on your parents, because I've been through it, the guilt and the reality. Oh man, it's tough. It's tough. So all I'm saying is, yay, take these commitments seriously, man, not only to get into them, but how you try to unwind and get out of them. But even if you get out of it, trust me. Do not think you wearing all white, Do not think you all clean, because that itty bitty is crying out for you, even without showing one tier. Corney caught me slipping again. Oh man, you know what she called me doing? Poking around in the crap game, Homies, stick up soft, because I ain't in the rap game now though ain't out as much bang out throat cuts standing on stage and I'm grabbing my what ice Q When he left n w A and had that America's Most Wanted album and that song came out. Poking around in the crap game, Think him soft, because now I'm in the rap gaming. Do y'all understand the rhythmic cadence of boom boom boom boo boo boo boom boom boo boo boo boom boom boom boom boom bom boom boom boom boom boom. Told your ice QB help raised me all right now. ESPN used to raise me too growing up. He had that thing locked in watching ESPN all day every day. I used to watch like three spot centers in a row. I'm like, then, I see that video didn't matter because I was like, they're gonna say something else different, Three words different made it all worth watching a whole nother hour of it. Well, espinned and the relationship with Pat McAfee is all is going well, let's just say that, but there are some concerns. Nothing's perfect right and it starts and let me give you a few examples. They're saying, Okay, we got some issues here, but we'll figure out how to address them. Want you guys in the comments to help me figure out how to address them? Aaron Rodgers amazing, great platform, Great Aaron Rodgers, it's all blowing up. His opinion sometimes gets them into the hot water. What you think they should do about it? Oh, well that's how it goes right now. The real issue isn't McAfee, and it's not Aaron Rodgers. It's not any of us. It's is ping, as they're saying and suggesting in this article, attempt to make its ecosystem like basically everybody else more like McAfee instead of let McAfee just be McAfee and everybody else be themselves. It seems like now there's this ecosystem pressure to be more like McAfee, and that's gonna compromise potentially the uniqueness of him, and y'all gonna look inauthentic, Like what is what you're doing? I got some examples here, right, So we know Adam Schefter and that tweet and his credibility was taking a hit when he talked about Aaron Rodgers and that controversial tweet way back, lost a little trust from his audience. Right, y'all remember that his whole debate and the COVID vaccine stuff. Like I hope nobody died on that heel And I mean that like in terms of the conversation. But some people feel like they went too far, went to that point, right, and it was pretty crazy. Uh, let's talk about this situation. His language no problem because they got all of the delays, they got the language requests, so they could play around with it in terms of the technology. Uh, but there are some situations where you're seeing people say stuff you didn't expect them to say, like Mike Greenberg maybe damaging his brand. Now we know who he is and we know how he talks, and we know that he's straight lined, right, But now it's like some let's e fing go, Like where's that coming from? Like what? But let's like let's efing go. We seen him on game day, his influence. We've seen other people starting to act up. We've seen the Phoenix Energy Phoenix Energy. Oh, they got my boy, Desmond Howard out there doing Penis commercials. It was kind of crazy. Oh man, call them at the chap h McAfee clown in Washington State, McAfee clowning teens that they ain't got no conference, they ain't got a home. He clowning a homeless of college sports in these universities, ain't got no home. So what's happening here is a lot of moving parts. In terms of moving personalities. You're seeing guys shift. You're seeing the producers maybe aging them on, egging them come on over, do a little more, give me a little more, come on. All that kind of stuff. And that's the McAfee effect that they're calling it right now. Okay, so let's talk to this. What's happening now. I didn't like what the article said in terms of ESPN is trying to move personalities towards McAfee. Don't blame them bosses up there for this one. This ain't that even a journalist. Sean Kelly says, McAfee's punching down and clowning all these conferences. College Football's biggest cheerleader and biggest bully is College game Day because of McAfee all that kind of stuff. Don't blame ESPN bosses for this one, y'all. Listen to this. You know what them bosses is doing, sitting back and watching, and you know what the talent is doing, looking at the bosses and singing this song. It's written all over your face. You don't have to say a word. They looking at them bosses and say, boss, you ain't gotta say a word. I'm about to act up, act out why because of the culture. And what's the culture of ESPN. Now, what's the culture of any place? It's what's rewarded, So you reward Pat McAfee eighty five million just to him who knows aj hawk making and all the rest of them cats. Right, you give him eighty five million, You give him more than anybody else who works here on the daily. Now, ain't talk about Troy Aikman and Joe Buck. I'm talking about on the Daily more than Steven A. So their may you know, you know how Dan LeBatard always says that Skip and stephen A created all these minions, these grimlins. Yeah, people who want to act like them. They only want to act like him for one reason cause they want to get what they got. Duh, that's culture. So culture has shifted at ESPN. So it's now all right, Steven A is gonna get you right there close too. But Pat McAfee is a whole different animal. Let's see what that is like. And he gonna create his grimlins, and he gonna create his minions. Even some people who are established, like a Mike Greenberg who on this show and in him. Let's go how it goes boiling that frog again, right, small subtle little things. Everybody's kind of taking their shot to see how it goes this land and then boss, I ain't doing it because you said so. But you ain't gotta say a word. Only thing is I ain't mad at none of that. It's just because I like Pac McFie. Pat McAfee had me mesmerage watching that sixty thousand dollars kickoff this weekend and then thirty thousand dollars kickoff because the dude got too cocky and missed the kick. Love it. It's just patrol this, y'all watch because cask gonna try to figure out, Okay, somebody and winning, there has to be losers. So if somebody's thinking they're on a quest to win, they gonna be seeking for somebody to lose. I don't want it to be the sports, the athletes, the ethics. I'm just watching this one because McAfee already won, and McAfee did it his way, the right way or authentic way, whatever you want to call it. Now somebody else with the copycat scheme, let's just say they ain't gonna go through those same steps, right. And it's that pressure to stand out. It's that pressure to keep up that suggests to these guys to start acting a little different, doing a little more right. I remember what the pressure for us used to be. Do you want to be first, or you want to be right, remember that, like stories just couldn't wait to say it, like, oh, I don't know, I don't know if it's fully checked, fully vetted. I'm just saying it, and everybody want to be first, not right. Then that kind of phased out, and there are always these urges to act up and act out and to be the first, because you know the rewards. Like I even felt them, the temptations like man, I'm just about to act get this money. I was like, I'm making good money. Actually, I'm making great money. I can make great money if I just act up. I was like, man, that ain't it. That ain't it right? So I see it all the time, and I always go back to what trained me. Y'all used to watch Looney Tunes, Bugs Bunny, y'all used to watch that Member Days had that tortoise and hair race every I don't know, it's felt like every month one race was a tortoise in hair. The tortoise and that hair be saying he run through the town and that tortoise go, it's a crackout. And I was like, why am I sitting there watching this when I know the outcome? He can't win. And I really don't know how he used to win, But that tortoise would beat that hair every time that hair go all around that damn town doing all this. I don't know if he got lost and he got caught up or he was stopping at the bar hollering at the homies and hollering at old girl. He never beat that tortoise, And that used to train me to be like, patience is a virtue. So let's see how impatient cats at ESPN will become because McAfee passed them up in terms of the rewards. So therefore the culture has now shifted to pat McAfee. Y'all tell me what do y'all think about ESPN? And like the content right now? You see this shift that they were reporting in this article. Are you like now everything's seen the same? I don't know. I mean they're just cursing a little more cursing on Greenberg Show, right, And what are the challenging benefits of incorporating those type of personalities? You know, this is a smart show. We like to talk about things that others don't talk about. So I love to see what you guys think about that. Ah, what time is it. I'm not gonna lie. This one's gonna be one of my favorites. Put this one on the mount rushmore of my role ins. What time is it? Six? Send the more than police satl Thou fresh Shedida squeak across that bath from flow WHOA. I never gang bag in my life, never inclined, never was seduced. However, that was the closest I ever got. When I her iced Tea hit that No. Six like it's time to start cripping, I was like, what is this? That was an amazing song. Man, Love that dude for that song right there and the beat that he got from my man over there in the East Coast PSK or something like that. Respect to both of y'all. All right, speaking of respect, respect now to Pro Football Dog, because it's time to bring in doctor David Child, who looks good, but I know he can't feel that good because he's still a Charger fan at heart. Tell me how you feel, Doc.
I'm certainly not as big a Chargers fan as that lady they kept showing on TV last night. I mean, she got more cameos, and she got more cameos than Taylor Swift.
Do I not know?
Something she got. Is she the Asian twa Taylor Swift? I don't know. Tell me what was that.
I was at the game, so I didn't get to see her. What was it they doing that AI stuff again or who was it?
No, they kept showing a fan in the at the game. It's it's all over the internet. They kept showing the same fan like seven times. It was just all this emotion and everything else. It was kind of interesting. I mean, they showed her a lot. I really think they showed her more than Taylor Swift Travis Kelsey game. I don't know what that was right there. She was very emotional. And here's the other thing is there's a lot of talk now, Marcellus, you're missing it all. Was she an actor or was she a plant? Or was she real? Cause, let me tell you, I get where people were saying that because A she was in a suite B by the sixth time they went back to her. How does she not have any friends? Like no one else was mugging for the cameras or doing everything. I mean, I mean, did you ever get a shot of Taylor Swift where there was no one sitting around her or standing around her? I mean, there's always people I don't know who knows. I don't know what the whole deal was.
Yeah, Doc, you know, I went to one of the games and they had this AI some movie coming out with AI and had these fake real robot, fake people, real people and it was like a thing. So maybe they're trying to now hide that but still promote that. So maybe that's what it was.
And no, I have no idea.
Yeah, you got to see her, but nobody has seen Deshaun Watson in a while. And that's the start of this segment with us. Let's clean up on our four as you tell me what's going on with Deshaun Watson in this mess.
There's a lot of cleanup to go on here. In no way, shape or form, am I saying Deshaun Watson doesn't want to play or he pulled the fast on the team. In no way am I saying the Browns are doing something wrong with the doctor. But there's something that doesn't make sense. Let's recap it here. Week three. He finishes the game, plays pretty well, takes a hit in the third quarter near the goal line on the right shoulder, direct contusion, and I actually think he's gonna play week four just contusion, even though he was limited in practice Week four. Right before the game, he warms up and says he can't play, and then we learn Kevin Stefanski had coach says he was cleared to play medically. And then we find out dtr his rookie backup, found out right before the game that he was the starter. And then there was a bye week, and then GM Andrew Berry says, oh no, it was a joint decision. They didn't play. And then coming off the by he didn't practice at all and didn't play, and he hasn't spoken the media yet. So I'm just saying there's lots of questions. I mean, Marcellus, you having played the game, how big of a situation is it if a player is in theory, ready to go playing and starting to play and then surprises the team or is a surprise inactive. I mean, that's a big shift. I mean, I don't know what happened there, but something happened.
All right, Doc, Well, he hasn't spoken Deshaun Watson just yet, so we're going to allow that to happen before we have full clarity in this situation. Well, some people that were speaking and we saw yesterday with their hands instead of their words. A lot of fights. We saw some pregame scuffles over the weekend. Chargers even had a fight with the Cowboys until the game started. Then they stopped fighting as much. Let me stop, but tell me. I saw Echoler get pushed in the face. Didn't get pussed in the head.
What happened the side of the head. His helmet popped off. I thought it was washing. I thought it was going back to my childhood, Rock them sock them robots. You ever have that game where you and the head pops up and he got jaw jact and his helmet flew off his head. I thought it was that video, that little game that we used to have. Look, I don't know. I mean, I'm not sure what's happened. It has been like three incidents is recently pregame. I mean, way back in the day, I thought referees are supposed to be on the field. I've got referees during all warm up adjudicated everything. I'm surprised none of these have resulted in any penalties or anything yet. I mean, there's been three in this last week of pregame.
You know why, Doc, They're not gonna kick them boys out. This is too much of an entertainment product. NFL has now transformed from being just the biggest sport in our country to not only the biggest television product, but it's our biggest entertainment product. So like, now, who is going to the concert to not see Taylor Swift perform? Right, So Austin next, All these dudes know it now, It's almost impossible to get kicked out of a game unless you really do something crazy. Yeah.
Now, the NFL's invading the Olympics, right, flag football and Gronk wants to play. What are the chances you think Gronk is on the Olympic flag football team in twenty twenty eight?
Ah Man, no chance at all. Matter of fact, two thousand and eight, Gronk wouldn't have been a good flag football player, Like y'all gotta think flag football player. I want nothing but skinny dudes, little dudes, quick dudes, shifty dudes. I do not need Gronk labor. He can't block it. Would he gonna do body somebody up? That's not the same thing. It's a whole different skill set. So I don't even think he's a Hall of fame flag football player, even though he was a beast in real football. Oh, let's talk about that. You just took me into just like the international mindset. What's the feasibility of the NFL really putting the team in London? A lot of smoke around that, and we see Jacksonville there every other week. It seemed like.
I've been saying for years, the travel is feasible. Think about it.
If you're in.
Buffalo, New York, is the travel closer to London or to la If you're in Miami, is the travel closer to London or to Seattle? Right now? It would be a beast for Seattle teams to go over there. But and what's proving my point is this time the Jaguars, as you mentioned, stayed there and played two consecutive games. Right They flew out there late in the week, played, stayed the next week, played, and then came home an evidence Part two. A lot of teams are just flying out there on Friday now, no longer staying the week. Number three, All the teams that came back from London, except for the Tennessee Titans, elected to not have their bye week after London game. And you the league gives you the choice, right, and so I think that's more evidence than it's it's the creep. And and you know, now we have the Frankfurt games right to Germany games, and we all know NFL Europe in the end became NFL Germany, right, those are the only teams that were left in Germany. I see a situation where it's kind of like the Green Bay Packers have the Milwaukee season ticket package, the Jacksonville Jaguars may have a two or four game London season ticket package, right, kind of deal because of you know the game. That's look, you got to keep growing the game if you want that salary cap to keep growing. And that's how they hand out contracts based on the salary cap. And the salary cap is tied to what TV revenue, so you need bigger audiences. At some point, everyone who has any remote interests in America is already watching the football game. So how do you grow the game? It's the international side. So I see it coming, and I see it even being easier when the NFL, I think, inevitably goes to see if you agree with this, and evily goes to an eighteen game regular season, but two bye weeks. What will that do? It gives you twenty weeks of TV football. It opens up Thursday night football teams off of bye week, so there's no short rest. It would open up Wednesday football, right, I mean if you're pairing teams coming off off off buys and so forth, and the revenue is more on off of TV than in person. So I think when the NFL goes to eighteen games, they're going to go to two bye weeks and get the revenue and put one by week early in the season one later in the season.
Yeah. They try to just get more inventory, and the only way to get more inventory is to expand it. And as you expanded not only in a number of games, but also in territory, get outside your borders, recruit new fans, new perspectives. All of that stuff is true, and what unlocked it for me is simple. When I saw the schedule that Jacksonville was going to London and then the next game is in London, I was like, Oh, this is how they boil the frog, right, you make the water too hot, the frog ain't even go hop in there too hop But if you just put them in some warm room temperature water, just turn it up a little bit. He stays there boils. They just turning it up on us just a little. Oh, Jacksonville just had consecutive weeks in London. Who knew? I'm like, yeah, you knew, and then next thing you know, it's gonna be the damn London Jaguars or something of that nature. Let's switch gears right here, Doc. A lot of injuries. Let's just go right to your wheelhouse first and foremost, especially at the quarterback position. I was sitting there watching Justin Herbert with a non throwing hand, broken finger affect his throwing. It look like we got Aaron Rodgers already from day one, play number four, Justin Fields, de Shaun Watson, etc. Seem like half the quarterbacks are hurt. Tell me what your take is on this.
There aren't. Half the quarterbacks literally have been hurt. I mean Ryan Tannehill, Trevor Lawrence is questionable for this Thursday after that Gator role on his leg and knee. There have been a lot of quarterback injuries. Kenny Pickett had the mcl Yaki goes on and on. Literally half the teams, not barely a third of the way through the season, over half the teams have had a quarterback injury of some sort, some with longer lesson. Jimmy Garoppolo miss time with a concussion and now is injured. Derek Carr had the ac joint spring. I mean, the list goes on and on and on in this brutal game. That's why the league tries to protect those quarterbacks. Justin Herbert you mentioned last night, here's how it affect his game. I don't think it affected his peer passing ability, but it affected I laughed at this. I don't know if you noticed this. I said all week, Justin Herbert's going to be fine coming off a bye. He's going to be better with the finger, but he's going to be exclusively in shotgun. First play from scrimmage under center, the rest of the game from shotgun. That's the Hey, we're going to show Dallas that we're not exclusively shotgun. It's sort of like the quarterback that can't throw along. I remember Marcus Marriott a couple of years back. I was telling her he can't throw along. First series boom, long pass, way off the mark. But then, okay, now you got to respect that he can throw long, even though he's just going underneath and how it affected the game is I think it's all you tell me. I think it's a lot harder, especially against the stout Dallas defense, to run out of shotgun than it is to run out from under center. And that might have effect affected Austin Eckler's effectiveness, even though I think his ankle was fine. And I think it also affected the game a little bit because the week that he hurt the fan, Justin Herbert ran a sneak and didn't get it because he couldn't hold the ball out with two hands. He was in his belly. And if you notice on the two fourth and one key plays, they were in shotgun. I don't know about you. I don't like the shotgun look from fourth and one. I mean, you want to have the thread of the sneak and then throw and go outside. If you're in shotgun, they're in spread for you. Right, It's a whole different deal. And that was dictated by the other finger. And there were times when he fell and got knocked down where no one falls. No one falls down with your hand up in the air unless you're trying to protect your hand. So kudos to Justin Herbert for playing through but it did have some effect on the game, even though it was his non drawing hand. And a lot more to come here. Justin Fields is extended absence dislocated thumb. Look what makes us different than everyone else every other animal? Right is a posable thumb. If you don't have an ipposable thumb, you can't grip it, you can't spin it. Justin Fields is going to be out for an extended period of time with that dislocated thumb, and hopefully he avoid surgery. Anthony Richards and looks like he's headed for shoulder surgery. There's just a lot going on, and that just shows how valuable the quarterback position is. And this is why they set up all the rules to protect the quarterback. But what's the problem here. The problem is quarterbacks are only protected in the pocket. But all the quarterbacks now in the days extend plays and do stuff outside the pocket. And how do you protect them outside the pocket? That's different. Like our boy Philip Rivers, you know, had his long streak of all these games because that man stayed in the pocket, right, He wasn't trying to run out of the pocket.
That's all he had. Right, Spin it like this and I ain't moving anywhere. You could have literally designed a concrete structure of three feet straight back. That's Philip Rivers right there, just right there, darting man. Appreciate you. Kudos to all these quarterbacks who are wrapped in bubble wrap, protected in the pocket, still out there getting slay because football hurts every single day and every single way. And kudos to you Doc for showing up for your boy this week on our Tuesday therapy session. We'll check in with you next week. Brother, Thank you, all right, appreciate you, big dog. I love that man. I just sit back. I don't know how long he is on their twenty thirty minutes, but I try to get in as few words as possible because everything he says he is educating me and you guys as well. All right, let's get to funking up some comments. Funking up some comments. Yeah all right. Stephen A. Smith, Oh yeah, that was yesterday. When it comes to handling business, Stephen A. Smith is like Alonzo and training day. Oh wow, no you didn't. He says he's your friend, got a lot of respect for you, knowing you for years, etc. But he really he'll take you out of any time to make himself look good. Wow, hey, I see some of that in you because I shout out to Dreamers Pro. We ever watched them on YouTube amazing podcast in terms of hours view. That's my favorite podcast on YouTube. Go to Dreamers Pro. Shout out to what they do. But at the same time, he always talks about how stephen A always leads with I like them, I like them, this ain't personal. I like him, And then what that's kind of funny. I'm gonna keep it real. This story about stephen A versus Max Kellerman got me invested, and I can even say versus Max because Max hasn't said a word. I find it very interesting from steven a point of view. Why would he continue to talk about a coworker that he got up out of there and said, coworker hasn't said anything about the situation. Come on them. We already know that. Three things are interesting to me. Firstly, how many people are involved Whitlock, Wiley, Lebtard. Second, no one is coming to his defense. And lastly, when to said what he said, that was it. Stephen A may be the king, but be what we are seeing now heavy is the head that where's the crown? Preach. I don't rock with Whitlock, but I respect him because he stands on what he says. Whitlock stands on what he says better than anybody I've seen in this industry. Like, and that doesn't mean you don't change your opinion. It just means I said what I said, Bro, like what you want, Like, you know, you can tell some people talking it, but like they're waiting really for your response to solidify what they said, not were like he just said it, Bro. I respect that We're Lock is tripping blaming Max. Stephen A. Smith is the only one minimizing Max. Steven A Smith multiple times disrespecting Max on air. Yeah, I mean the word trying is the only thing that was Wilock saying Max wasn't trying and it just happened. Point being, I think that was the only part that was like a little miscommunicated. Appreciate your addressing this Jason situation. Keywords here are my perspective. I think this entire situation is based on different perspectives and different outlooks on what's wrong or right, and less about lies and truth. Just my opinion. Yeah, a lot of cliches in there, but I know what you're saying. We're just telling you what it is. You know, I'm telling you what I saw. Stephen A could you know? And Max, he ain't gonna tell you nothing. You ain't gonna say nothing. He gonna write a book. Max's gonna write a book and get paid off it. That's what he's gonna do. Gonna keep it real. I can't do the bathroom stuff. My wife started doing that open door bodily function stuff and I had to put a stop to it. Too gross for my taste. Hmmm, the voice papers in the mill. Now, I'm just saying, if you can't take raw and real from your significant other, if you make them have to get like proper just to be that's heavy doog like may hold your nose and look away, or like let her live and let you live. Like if I can't launch, why excuse me? And we what are you doing? I'm like, oh God, are we still dating? You know what I mean? Nah? Primetime, the complaint about the late kickoffs is just something coach Prime is gonna have to deal with. For college football to boom, Thursday and Friday primetime games become a thing. These schools and conferences made money doing so it's not disappearing. Uh huh. More money that means you about to do more to get more money. The n IDL deals look great, except them kids got to do community service. You ain't gonna just I ain't just giving you money. Oh you're gonna work with some kids. You ever talk to them kids an IO deal? They gotta like hide it under service. It ain't. It ain't always hitting. You gonna work for it too. As well. Wiley was spot on when describing going to another place when he talked about seeing a teammate actually hurt and then you wake up. I got chills cuz I know exactly what he was talking about and never realized when I played, because going there with second nature. Great explanation, Wiley, appreciate you, man. Yeah, I didn't recognize it either. When I played that, I was like going to alternate universes, like different dimensions of life. But then when I retired, I was like, Yo, whatever I just went through for the last twenty five years ten professionally was different. And now when I go to the games, like yesterday, I'm sitting there and I'm just sitting there watching these mammals run around and he each other especially from our perspective because we got the end zone shot. So I get to see plays develop, like that's how we watch film. I love watching plays develop right from the back of his eyes. And they were on the goal line. They gave a ball to Austin Echeler that sucker round in there, and it was like this, I'm not lying. Austin Necker got the ball. Even my son and my wife were like, I could just see it in there. I was like, and my wife turned around she was like yeah. I was like, yeah, that was just one play, baby, It's different out there on that field. All right, y'all, y'all know how we finished this show. We finished it every day with a what Lee ism. Yeah, feelings only come before truth in the dictionary. Yes, this is some coaches talk. Feelings only come before truth in the dictionary. I remember seeing that red dot on the screen before, and you don't want that red dot on you too often because coach ain't usually giving out compliments. Usually that red dot is to teach, and he only teaches two problems. So here we go, and he got that red dot on you. He shake, he said, look at here, right here, Wiley, and he is strictly talking about what happened. Don't catch feelings. He's saying, this is what you need to do, and this is the truth, and it's gonna hurt. But don't catch feelings. And if you don't catch feelings, only time they come before. This truth is in the dictionary. I remember sitting there because you know your coach behind you doing this. You're seeing that red dout. You're like, all right, dog, I get it, I get it, I get it. Yeah, I get it. Yeah, But you ain't saying this. You're just like thinking, like, all right, you made your point. Oh why you're getting louder. I ain't even saying nothing back, yes, coach, Yeah, all right, you got her. Yep, all right, no problem, norm Yep, I get it. Yep. Next time we're gonna do it right, Yep. You're trying to move on. He like, nah, shaking that thing you and your feelings, huh he and that truth? Which one should come first? Which one gonna win? So what happens like that, not just in the film session, not just in the film room, but in life. I know what happens to me and my relationship all the time. My wife does something and it gets me and my feelings. I got some weird triggers. I got one trigger that I don't like the house to be loud until everyone is up. So that's kind of tough to always have the police because I got a three year old, a four year old to eight year old, and a loud wife. So if the wife wakes up first, she just I don't know how she was raised. They just stomping through the house like I'm up, so everybody else better be up. I'm like, baby, the kids are still sleeping. Oh yeah, like I just told her something she ain't know, Like she just totally leaves that place. Then the boy gets up and he want to bottle flip let's go, and then he want to play with all his toys and stuff Bay Blade Tournament. I'm like, you here, allowed, that is your sister's still sleep? You looking at me? He he doing what I did in that film room. Doll cursed me in his head, like all right, dad, like his feelings. The little one gets up, Oh it's a rap. She ain't listening anyway, but it's rap. Other one gets up, middle child. Oh, now y'all all can be loud because everybody else but before that, I'm trying to police that and everybody in their feelings. But everybody kind of calms down because they realize I'm telling the truth. Happens in your world all the time as well, right, especially in relationships. Somebody tell you something real and you just don't want to hear it, and even if you do want to hear it, just don't feel good. Right, But just remember this one. Feelings only come before truth in the dictionary. All right, y'all. That'll do it. For More to It, check the show notes for all the information on our topics today today. Want to keep the conversation going, Let's talk. Find me on all socials at Marcell's Wiley More Too is a production of Dan Patrick Production That Dude Entertainment and Workhouse Media. Show is executive produced by Dan Patrick, Marcell's Whially, Paul Anderson, and Nick Panella. 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