Jay Williams! Kelce's Plea! Sharpe's Name Game! WNBA Player Survey!

Published Sep 7, 2023, 12:00 AM

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Episode 178 of More To It

02:45 Jay Williams
11:33 Kelce's Plea
21:34 Sharpe's Name Game
31:23 Bonus Topic (WNBA Player Survey)
40:43 Funk Up Some Comments
43:12 Wileyism

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With what's up with that dude?

Well, yesterday had a pickleball social, which is basically all my people's coming over here hanging out playing some pickleball during labor day. We got it in kids running around yesterday. We had some unwanted visitors. We had a gang of Mosquitos, like a gang of Mosquitos, like to the point where you were like uncomfortable, like you need to pay your orchan bill or something like that.

So we had that going yesterday.

A lot of food, a lot of drank, a lot of hanging, a lot of chilling, and a lot of pickleball.

So had a good time.

And our school starts tomorrow and the first off after labor Day. Why won't you start on Tuesday? And now I gotta just say salute to my school for being that damn smart, having that much for sight realizing today ain't the day to get them boys and girls ready for school. Man after a holiday slow motion for me, I like it like that.

I'm telling y'all like we woke up late.

Everybody with the band late, everybody woke up late, whole different animals.

So boy, if we had school today starting.

Off strike one day, one late or absent, so our school is kind of smart right there.

Now, let's speaking of somebody who won't be there. Jay Williams is signing off from ESPN Radio.

Let's get into this. Y'all know Jay Will? I know Jay Will that's the homie. We should kick it tough. When I had my days of going back and forth to ESPN, so this is like early twenty ten's and something like that, but we really got close, really cool cat to this day.

All right.

So Jay Will gone from ESPN Radio after three years on the program. Okay, they got a new program coming with Chris Kenny, Big Dog, Evan Cohen and Michelle Smallman's Smallment, so they're getting there started today.

He just expressed gratitude, thank you.

You know the same old stuff, the Hallmark card you gotta sign. He thanked his former co host Keishawn Johnson, Max Kellerman, my dogs and said respect to his brother. He also said this quote, this show has gone through a lot of challenges, It's gone through a lot of learning opportunities, as I like to categorize it, and it's been an absolute pleasure. All Right, I'm gonna bore y'all with all that, because you know, he had to say all that. I'm gonna tell y'all the real what's going on here. Look, he's been a lane up for months and that sucks, but doesn't suck so much compared to the working man working woman out there who like, sometimes you have to go through job uncertainty. In this situation, basically how I went down was they weren't gonna knew his contract, but they still wanted to use up the contract terms and services until it expired.

So basically, come to work.

We the same to you, You be the same to us, do the same thing, except you know, this has an end date, This has a finishing line. Now why would they do that?

Right?

Other people they were like all right, some people they just said we're not renewing. Some people just said we're terminating the contract, etc. And then we'll have to talk after that. Why j will why just grow all the way through with it? I'll tell you why. In this situation, you didn't have to worry about Key Sean.

You didn't have to worry about Max Kellerman. And those are.

Obviously bigger contracts, So let's just start there. Max Kellerman also had his own show. Having his own show comes with production costs, comes with producers and researchers, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. And you look at those three, Jay will making the least of those three. You say, well, at least he can keep the boat float right, keep the boat afloat. And the other guys y'all too heavy, y'all was sinking this ship. Even though it's not a talent conversation. The toughest part about this is wrapping your brain around why they pick him and didn't pick him or didn't pick her. Right, You're like, Jay Will better than some of the people on that show and some of the people on the network. But why Jay Will Keisha better than someone? Why Keysha Max is better? Why Max? And the decision making process is something that no one fully has wrapped their head around, seriously talking to execs before and just knowing them. Sometimes it's enforced from the top. We need to change the direction. Sometimes it's just the fact that hey, not moving the needle. But it's really difficult to look at the whole list of people that either had their contracts terminated or expired. What's the rhyme or reason for picking those guys. Let's talk through j Will's situation right now, because I've already heard he has a tremendous opport little shift in space, but a tremendous opportunity already on his plate.

So I think he's gonna land on his feet and be fine.

But these transitions and why these transitions, and how it impacts you as it impacts.

The talent j Will Rolling, Rolling, Rolling. J Will all of a sudden finds himself in this position, and it's not due largely to just how good he is.

You want to know why because there's some other great ones that they released as well. Now the dynamic of what Jay Will was doing, what can you do? You gotta show what keth Shan, you gotta show with Max that ain't gonna flow. So now what you're gonna do? Basketball? We let Jalen Rose go too, and regard it. Jayalen Rose was regarded hire in the company than him, So you can't really even search or figure out what's behind all of this. We know it's the cost cutting ways, but how do you call cut costs if you're also going to cut costs on someone not making that much money in the scope of things, And obviously we know other guys they're making a lot more money. So I looked at this situation as a whole, and I was like, damn, you knew Jay Will wasn't gonna last, and then it finally came.

But true that it kind of came to fruition.

So can't make sense out of nonsense, Grandma once told me, and I love that as a wilyism, just because you try to sit there if you. J Will, smart guy went to do obviously number two pick overall horrific accident, ended his career basically still became a great talking head and nowhere to go at least that esp N. So that situation, right there was just something I wanted to touch on, see what he's gonna do, and see how you guys felt about jay Will. Like I hear mixed things about j Will from y'all, probably everybody me too, right, But how y'all feel about this situation? And also these shifts, right, these changes, how do they impact you? And how do they impact sports media as a whole. Looking at this situation, you're like, damn, jay Will gone too and it ain't stopping more and more going, you know, on the side know this. I just want to add this because I was watching College Game Day is that what it is?

The morning show? And they had Lee Corso on.

There, and who doesn't have love for Leek corso 'specially with that big o'head thing he built on the mask out head. But then if you know a talent conversation, you can see all of them care taking Lee Corso because basically Lee Corso not he not at his best.

He ain't got his fastball no more. We know that.

So you see a situation you're like, but why and then you're like, well, because he's older, you just want to take care of him, let him down.

But do y'all think that that's fair?

And even are y'all looking at that situation a little skeptical? Because I know it made me just think. I was like, there's people that just for whatever reason, you just don't let them go. And there's some people, for whatever reason, even though they're good, you do let them go. Just had to throw that in into it as well. That up in the comments. Manks love for you guys out there, go on the website Project transition dot org. Help us build these resource centers, help us connect with.

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All right, Speaking of somebody looking out for himself, not you guys. It's Chris Chris Jones. Chris Jones is like, nahby, I'm good. I'm not playing for twenty million a year. I need MUCHAI all right. So Travis Kelce, the tight end for the Chiefs. He was on his own podcast, y'all know him and his brother, and he was like, I gotta express some concern and some issue that I have with Chris Jones holding out. And he said, Chris, can you please come back? You're really scaring me. Man, I don't get it. You must know something that I don't know, because I just don't get it. I really want to get another Super Bowl ring with you, brother, please.

We need you.

We need you bad, and I don't know what the situation is now. He made that when he was on New Heights with his brother.

Jason, and it's interesting how he said it.

If y'all caught what he was saying, he was taught talking about worry and confusion. I don't get it now. That's hard to swallow. If you, Chris Jones, and for me to understand, you're his teammate and you know why you're holding out, So what you're really saying is it's not confusing, it's why are you even taking that position? Like you're not confused? What it's about he mak it twenty million? Basically you saying no, you make it way too much to be holding out. You make enough, You make enough to be in here playing for us. You make it more than me. I'm a beast, I play a different position, So I get it. I ain't trying to count your money. I ain't trying to patch your pockets. But at the same time, I don't get it. We rolling as a team, we're trying to have this dynasty, and you making twenty Here's the craziest part about it. Jones was set to earn eighty million over the four year contract he's just signed, so obviously that makes you one of, but not the highest paid defense.

It's a tackle. Now he's one of, if not the best. Right now.

You can say Aaron Donald, you can say Chris Jones, but it's pretty much those two neck and neck, I would say, And it's just putting pressure on this team to try and cover that void.

Looking at Chris Jones, you're like dog. You just has for the eighty million, got it?

And now you can't even finish that deal and try to re up again. Teammates are being nice, Coach Andy Reid's being nice. What they want to say is, dog, you're being greedy. You're being Hella greedy right now and not thinking about anybody else. And that's the rub in a team sport, the ultimate team sport, where there's no iron team, but there is a me. How do you balance out? Yeah, I hear y'all, dog, but I gotta do me. And that's where Chris Jones is right now. So Chris Jones of this situation, they were talking about it to Andy Reid as well, and then he was saying, look, Chris has chosen to go this route. Some other guys have chosen to get their deal done and come in and play. I'm not here to criticize one way or the other. To think that you're gonna fill in for Chris. That's not what you're doing.

As long as he is physically in good shape, you can kind of start working them in and get them going.

Then you play it by ear after that and see where he's at. Okay, so we know they played Detroit this week. They got the Detroit Lions on Thursday night, football, and they tried to fill in the gap, got Neil Ferrell from the Vegas Raiders. But the point of this is how these teammates and Andy Reid are biting their tongue trying to protect Chris Jones, when in reality, if you read between the lines, it's not that hard.

They are like, dog, is this how we gonna get down? All right?

So I'm not a fan of holding out of a deal that you just signed and were a static to sign, like.

When you signed for twenty million at that time, WHOA.

But I'm also not a hater of some one who stays locked and step with their market value and we'll reset it on moments. Notice, I'm a little envious to that guy, But at the same time, I think that guy is a little too gangster for me in terms of me trying to express myself that way. If I were Chris Jones, I would play this year out and I know I'm about to get another deal because that deal is over. But whether it's through him talking to others or him just knowing his leverage is so high, he like, I'm gonna strike wile Iron's hot right now. But I think for Chris Jones, it stays hot one because of his talent. Two is production. Three is position. You play d tackle dog. They gonna pay. You're gonna get your money, and your numbers don't have to be insane at Detackle. A lot of double teams, triple teams. You mean so much in other ways. The numbers that we don't count, we know your impact. So I know if I were his teammate, I would be like Travis Kelce or worse because I wouldn't even want to hide it. If I'm gonna say it, I'm gonna say it. If I ain't gonna say it, we're not gonna talk about Chris Jones. That's what I probably are dumb like now I want to talk about Chris Jones. And you will know why I don't want to talk about Chris Jones because I ain't got nothing good to say, and I'm gonna say you ain't got nothing to say good, don't say nothing at all. So this is a very impossible situation that fifty two other guys and the coaching staff is put in cause the Chris Jones. Now the flip is, just pay the dude, pay them thirty What do you want thirty thirty two? Pay them.

The money doesn't even become the issue.

Fully, that principle is not the issue the al it's the le like dog. You just signed four years and you didn't finish that one. Well, now we're gonna re up and give you thirty and you gonna finish that one. What gives us confidence that you're gonna finish that one? So you know, holdouts work. I'm not saying you can't hold out. It's the spirit of why you're holding out. And it's the fact that you're holding out when before you got exactly what you wanted and that was more than enough.

And how quickly things have changed. Ah, it's tough, man.

It seems like you, if you're Chris Jones, you could have walked this one better into a position where you can meet in the middle, especially when you need them to sign off. He's gonna show up by week eight because he ain't gonna miss this year in terms of eligibility. But will it be too late for this team in terms of how they're playing.

I doubt it. Will it be too late for Chris Jones to get exactly what he wants.

I certainly doubt that. I don't think he's gonna get what he wants this year. I could be wrong, love to eat crow as long as he gets his. But right now, nobody's getting theirs while Chris Jones is wholding out. So what do y'all think about Chris Jones right now in this situation? Think he being selfish? You think he has to be selfish? Or you thinking like he's nah. Selfish is one thing, greedy is another. And then what are the to y'all like, how would y'all play pros and cons of holding out or saying I'm coming in and working with you guys, giving my deal?

What would you do?

My personality is I'm gonna be in that building now because I'm kissing button because I'm about to put in some work and get some more money. You get all that money being on that field, I don't get adamn how good you are.

You ain't gonna get all that money.

All the time if you're sitting there only talking about it, not walking through it. Hey, I see you right there right Remember when I start hearing people saying I just want to be seen.

People do because I used to have like five five ear piercings and nose ring and tattoos. Eight cars. Im you start looking back, like what I do all that for it? For real?

Just somebody could notice me, or not just notice me, but give me what I wanted easier, if you know what I'm saying, whether that was just entrance into a club, if that was hey, look at.

Me, pretty girl.

I don't want to have to say everything to make you say hello, or if it was just like dog, I want all these du to respect me, looked up to me. Whatever it may be, crazy, right, I guess we all want to be seen. Well, you know what you want to see. You want to see this book from the inside. I'm telling y'all go to Project Transition dot org and get yourself one of those books.

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We're gonna have some fun with that, all right, Let's have some fun with Shannon Sharp right now. Because Scoop Scoop, scoop.

He hit it, he hit it, He hit it a bunch. I think only count it too, so that's not really a bunch. But I ain't watched the whole episode, ease, did you? So we know Shannon Sharp is left undisputed. Came here said by Skip Bayless, my dog, what's up?

Stephen A? My dog? And got there.

Now, I don't know Vegas had this as a prop bet, but I know I did. I know all my boys did what was over under for him saying skip to stephen A. We were like three, We had a three. I was like, hey, I'm gonna say under.

But I wouldn't have put the money on it because I was like, man, it's gonna be tough.

Old habits are hard to break. But there's more to this one than just old habits, as I will discuss. So we saw him on the very first segment of first Take, responded to some Kansas City Chief Detroit lion question and immediately said skip to stephen A. And you know steven A oh no, we were good. It's all right, I get it. And then he just kept going and then it happened again. They came back at the commercial break. They were talking about the Jets and Aaron Rodgers and he was like, you'll skip, and he said it again. He was trying to bring up a story and interaction with NFL player Ben Coates, former great tight end himself. And then you know, Stephen, ay, oh no, it's all good.

You know, I get it.

And he was like, it's been seven years, Stephen. A skip And they went through that, right, real lighthearted, nothing major, but let me say a couple of things. You know, you never get a second chance to make a first impression kind of things. That's where nervousness comes from. Like the origins of nervousness is how do I impress? How do I show that I am prepared? How did I show that I am worthy? Right, even when you are as great and big as a Shannon Shark, three time Super Bowl champions, Hall of Famer, been broadcasting longer than he played, even then, he's still nervous.

Ain't that crazy? Right?

Not nervous like sweating and all that, but just like I'm trying to do it all right and try to push every button. I'm gonna make sure this goes well, go smooth, And even in those moments, still we muscle memory. Man, We're a walking muscle memory. So you've been trained to stay skip a thousand times a show because that was your catchphrase. Like my catchphrase is right, I say right a lot can many times I say right in the show. You'll be surprised. Right, let me stop. So the point is you got that going. So he was a little nervous. Whatever they drop soos, whatever did y'all catch this? So my introduction to their dynamic was watching Club Shaysha. When he dropped that, I think Friday, him and stephen A, and I was thoroughly surprised by their dynamic. I see a big brother, little brother dynamic more than I anticipated. I see someone who is in this industry, stephen A as established and as great as he is, actually looking in Shannon and talking to Shannon and Shannon talking back to him like stephen A, you looking out for me, stephen A, you hooking me up?

Stephen A, you doing me one? And I ain't expect to see that because.

All the other guys in that rotation that are being like a mad dog.

I don't see that from him.

And I look at Shannon Sharp like he a mad dog of his own way, of his own style. Now mad dog got mad Dog Radio and been in the game forever. But the point is you ad Super Bowl Champion, you had, Hall of Famer, you had, You've been doing this since what CBS early two thousands with Damn Marino, like come on, dog like and I didn't expect that, But then it started to click and make some sense. I watched that interview in this entirety the Club Shay Shay one, and they were talking about how Stephen they kind of stuck his neck out, just went out there, not on a limb, but went out there first and broadcasted loudly. He wonted Shannon Sharp, and I was like, why is he doing that? Shannon Shark gonna get what he gonna get on his own marriage. He don't need somebody like throwing them.

All a branch. But then it started to crystallize.

And they you gotta catch this, but they sped through it. But they basically were talking about how Stephen they knew what was gonna happen to Shannon sharpo Undisputed, and it happened, and Shannon was like, damn doll, you saw that. You knew that, and I couldn't believe that. I ain'tdn't even understand that at first. And now he's over there, and now you can see the reverence, the deference that Shannon is paying to stephen A.

Smith.

I thought that dynamic was fascinating and telling. I think it was telling because stephen A was there for Shannon when Shannon was in a situation, in a pickle or whatever it may be, through the negotiation of the buyout. Right, That's why I claimed still that this was not abrupt. But this came to a head fast, all of a sudden.

You just look up, Shannon Sharp is gonna leave Undisputed, really and there's a buy out, So that means they want something too, and they gonna get something, give something to What do they want? They just wanted Shannon to move on? Crazy, right? What do they get?

They got the fact that they can move on with the show in a different way, different version to what they are showing now the Avengers cast.

What do they have to give up? Still got to pay the due because you're still owe the dude, what'd you give up? Give him? Club? Shay Shane, what'd you get?

We got our new version, we got our new way, and we got our guys Skip Bayless.

Happy again, I assume. And it's weird. It was that contentious, right right, Stephen.

They stuck his neck out, knowing being the og, being the vet like all, they're about to play Shannon over there.

Let me make sure Shannon land on his feet and.

Lands would first take, and then Colin must caught winning too. Hey, go do what you gotta do, big dog. I know I don't want to press you, but we hear at the volume as well. So just an interesting way that it's all playing out and playing through. But I laughed when I saw him just calling him Skip a couple times, as we all should, as Shannon gets more comfortable in that role. But I didn't know that that role was gonna be that slice of Shannon Shark like him looking at Stephen a like good looking out, big dog. I'm like, damn, I just know Shannon could get it with his own muscle, could get it with his own marriat.

So it's gonna be interesting to see.

How that plays, because if you start off like that like Stephen A is the big dog, big bro, what happens when Shannon grows if he grows in this role like he did and undispute it, or maybe because he's only on there for two days a week, he's already capped himself in that role. Just thought those things were interesting. Y'all tell me what y'all think about it as well, and what you think of the transition so far from undisputed to first take from Shannon's perspective looking at Shannon. Also, let's do a little comparison, like what y'all feeling so far, like your energy Shannon over there at first take or skipping everybody else over there undisputed? Beat it up in the comments. Let's talk to that. Oh man, this right here is for you. You want it, you can have it. Project transition dot org go there. Donate any amount. If you donate a recurring amount that means weekly, monthly, you are introded into every single sweep sakes, which includes getting this jersey. I'm just gonna give it to you had this jersey for like twenty years, man, Mitchell and Ness used to hook me up, and I have like thousands of jerseys. Real talk and I'm like, why am I holding onn of these? Like I'm just gonna one day I got a game room and like I'm just gonna throw them all on the wall, Like that's what you say when you're getting them, like you collecting them, like oh yeah, my gameroom go me and saying, man, my game room got all jerseys of me and Magic Johnson.

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All right, let's fix the w NBA, because y'all know I'm huge fans, huge fans of my daughters. What I don't like the WNBA, And I'm mad that I don't like it because I love basketball and I love my daughters and I love women that play basketball. But damn it, I don't like the WNBA, and that's bad taking away options from all those dunkin girls. Y'all see that, y'all see that girl, that's I think she in the seventh grade. She dumps for real, like like not statue celebrity and a hope and a prayer and tithing on Sunday, like like I saw her do this. Think she in the seventh grade bouncies It's coming. Trust me, when my daughters get older, one of them gonna bounce and dunk. My daughter gonna do this. She's gonna do a cradle rocker, I'm gonna tell you. So let's fix it at the top that yesterday's show we were talking aboutvolleyball, women's volleyball. We going to fix these sports where we know athletes are and they need to be rewarded.

So let's talk about.

The concerns of the WNBA players, all right now, they poll superstars, veterans, newcomers.

All of them.

Here's their short list of what they don't like about the WNBA. So y'all don't think I'm a hater. The people playing even don't like some of this stuff. They don't like the travel, they don't like the lack of visibility, the marketing issue, security, franchise expansion, they want greater roster sizes, and they want to change.

To the salary cap structure.

So I think the only thing that's left is they like the uniforms like they don't like they league either.

All right, let's talk about it first. Let's start with them commercial flights. Have y'all ever been to the airport and seen the w NBA players. I have not.

Now, I've seen a lot of sports on there, you know, especially collegiate athletes. See the baseball team all the time, see the volley ball team. But w NBA players take commercial flights. And they say it, They said it right here quote it's an absolute waste of time.

The delays. Come on, y'all.

The lack of flexibility is not a charter a professional league.

That is sitting there. This is your captain.

Speaking, and he ain't just talking to Brittany Grinder. He's talking to everybody. Three hundred people on his plane and thirty of them in the NBA WNBA.

Come on, man, gotta do better. Our flight is now delayed Gate D three, Gate D three.

And y'all pros, come on, man, we gotta fix this, all right. So they got a lot of issues. They don't like that.

Also, the international players.

Tsa pre check, the clear program, they got issues. They struggle getting through that because they're international players. Okay, so it's exhausting and time consuming.

They hate that, all right. Here's another thing, that they don't like the salary structure. They want more.

Flexibility, obviously higher earnings so that they don't have the need to have to go elsewhere and play.

Basketball and the off season.

Now I can hear everybody in the comments right now, tough cookie, and like, everybody want their job to pay them more, right So, I'm like, but they wanted to go proposed salary rangers from three hundred to four hundred thousand with incentives to reach six hundred thousand to retain the top talent within the league so they don't have to play year round.

We know the easy way to do that.

Is you got to make this product more viable, more exciting to people so that they will support and invest more in it, and then the numbers go up. So that's a tough complaint because you complain about something you can fix, but it's tough to fix it if the structure's not there, if the WNBA at large is not good enough. So it's not about the talent, it's not about the players, it's about the hell the product is doing what they're doing with the product, right, So they also have issues with the safety, talking about look before, during and after games, hotels we don't have the same safety standards that the other sports have as well. Schedule flexibility. They want that. They're talking about their travel. They gotta go way way cross country, sometimes layovers, not even a charter.

All bad, all bad. Okay.

And now the last thing is their contracts. The fact that a few of them are guaranteed, right, isn't that crazy? Like no guarantee contracts for WNBA players.

All of that? All right, I'm about to fix it right now, straight up.

I ain't gonna go to my same old lower the rim even though that works, they won't even try it. The ball is smaller, Okay, we know the shooting distances are different for three pointers, etc. This is how you fix it, seriously, this is how you fix it. Because they are in the red right, being subsidized by the NBA every single year.

This is how you fix it.

You look at the program, you look at the WNBA as a whole, and you say this, we are going to reduce this, not expand this. Reduce this and refine it. So no more expansion talk. We're going to keep these same amount of teams and players. We're also going to do what the NBA did to clean up their image to help them become more exciting slash more inviting and more popular. You know, they had that dress code for the NBA, and all of a sudden, people was like complaining about it, but then everybody got with the program.

But what it did is it altered the.

Image of what the NBA was, not the game, not the product, but just the image and our perception of it, how we received it. The WNBA needs a makeup in terms of this image as well. Right, you watch the WNBA all the time and you see a few things that stick out, Right, you see a lot of people out there balling out of control, and they don't have the femininity that you would expect from an all women's sport.

Here's a comparison.

You watch women's tennis and you're like, oh, okay, you and it's expressed in all different ways. So don't get boxed in thinking they gotta look one way. Then you look at the WNBA, they're like, and I used to laugh, we used to clown like this in high school. We're like, why every girl if and we said every We were being absolute hyperbolic, Why every girl that ball gotta look like the dude that ball?

Right? It was like weird, and then dudes was like, yeah for real, like you ain't gotta look like us? The ball like us ball like you look And then you would see some that did that.

Who comes to mind, Scholar Diggins comes to mind, right, a few others, and I know they're out there. But the point is I saw the NBA just saying, ain't nothing wrong with wearing teas and baggy jeans, but we got an image issue that we can fix.

So how can we.

Now map that on to the WNBA and get somewhere. That's all they need because they're not gonna listen to me and just lower the rim. So they need to make sure that this is a more open, inviting, exciting game. Eximp is that now the sexuality of the people. Look how many are lesbian or not?

I don't go down those paths really because you could be a lesbian or not. You can be a gay.

Player or not ball, but it's not that it's the expression of what you are that the NBA or WNBA needs to get a stronghold of The NBA did it and it helped because it was getting out of control, and the WNBA needs to do that as well.

Right, you got little girls. I have girls. My girls are athletic.

They may want to play basketball, they may not, but if they do, I don't want them all of a sudden to be placed into a culture that looks that way, that looks like it doesn't care about its perception. Right, just everybody be just whatever. The NBA didn't do that, So why is the WNBA doing that?

Right?

Clean it up a little bit. I saw all I gotta say, or you ain't gonna get my any bities. They ain't gonna want to play now. Seriously, I think the sensibilities get altered. A lot of parents. I hear this, A lot of parents like, nah, I don't want them to play that sport because it just looks it you alreways hear it looks violent some sports.

Some sports. Ah, they don't look like they're into it. They are.

You look at WNBA. They don't look like they happy. They don't look like girls look, they don't look like women look. And that's a lot of different things. So I get it. But we know what the WNBA needs to do a lot, and it's coming from the inside out. These players are saying it. Hopefully they will listen. So y'all tell me what y'all think the fix is. I think a real cosmetic fix.

I hate.

Part of me wants to say, just make it look fresher. Then some of me wants to say, make it look beautiful, prettier, like all them pretty girls like you seeing when they go to the war ceremony? Do you see when they playing? You're like, I know it's a lot. I know it's a lot to be running up and down the court sweating, but like, just I don't know.

They did it with the dudes.

They clean the dudes up, So I'm like, let's clean up the look of that. What do you guys think the fix could be?

Right? Because I really want this league to succeed for real. I just think it's good for everybody involved. If this league succeeds, women can't play basketball and make a great living.

That ain't good for nobody. All right, y'alle, it's kind of funk us for comments focus from commics. Yeah, all right, here we go Nebraska world record talking about the women's volleyball record they set in attendance. I think for sure they can make a league that's profitable, but it would really require one or two super marketable personalities to get it off the ground. He just said it again, marketable. Make the WNBA marketable with personalities. We know what we talking about, right, and volleyball does it. Volleyball has a leg up on the WNBA in terms of look and marketability. You look at the volleyball player, you're like, oh, yeah, I want my doctor go jump wall spike. Yet all that right, and then it ain't translating the saying in WNBA. If people care, they would show up, if only people cared about the WNBA. Yeah, maybe I'm just blowing smoke. Maybe I am Deon Sanders.

I've bet Florida Gators, which they hired Coach Prime a couple of years back. Here ooh coach Prime at Florida.

Oh with those resources with them here the chump, Oh my god, that would have been insane. It's just one game, people, a very good win. But let's not get carried away just yet.

Geeesh.

I hate this guy, even though you're my dog. What's your name, Jaxon Junior? I hate when you excited. Somebody always say chill out, calm down. You'd be like dog, you know how hard it is get excited. Let me be excited. I trust me. I will recover if I'm disappointed, But right now I'm not. I'm excited. Let me be man from prime time to Coach Prime and everything in the middle. I appreciate the dude, the work and what he stands for. That said, this one game and what a game it was, But the path forward this year and beyond had some tough times ahead. I believe in what Coach promised building and hope folks give him the space to grow through good and bad because life and the game is full of both. Yep, there's gonna be some ups and down. Oh you talk UCLA, USC Oregon. Oh yeah, he knows, it's all good. It's a hodspodge of talent anymore. This is about Team USA and our loss not indicative of the real talent we have to dominate anywhere. There is no incentive to put together those teams. Yeah, our best talent ain't playing, so therefore we losing out there as we saw the Lithuania. NBA remains the best league in the world, so the NBA league champion can still call themselves world champs. How we perform at international events has no standing on that statement. The best international and domestic talent plays in the NBA. Yeah, but even when we had the best, we've lost internationally. So that's the everlasting conversation that I'm assuming we all are going to have. All Right, y'all, y'all know how we finish every show. We finished it with a wily ism. Yeah, results only come before risks in the dictionary. That's what I said, even though I stuttered d results only come before risk in the dictionary.

That's right.

Remember when this one hit me? Because you know, sometimes you want to play a safe God. We love we love structure, we love convenience, right, we love something that's repeatable, but sometimes you gotta take a risks, right, and that risk is how you get through results, results, and you get the rewards.

But damn, it's a little uncomfortable taking risks.

Right, I'm gonna go to that school my first risk I felt that I actually signed off and did. Wasn't me switching high schools because I was like, I'm gonna go to a high school that I know is a good high school. A lot of people go to college from et cetera. So I wasn't thinking that was risky. It was scary. It was a little challenging, but it wasn't risky. When I went to Columbia. It was risky. I want to going to Columbia playing football when they had a forty four game losing streak right before I got there.

That's risky.

But I just thought that it was the best situation for all things considered. And I remember going there and realizing, wow, man, there were gonna be a lot of dark days. There were a lot of days where I was like, is this gonna really work?

Is this gonna really pay off? Right?

But I had to take the risks to even know the result. And that's the point of this one.

So in any.

Endeavor, you got think about it. You want it, but what you're gonna risk to get it? Because that's what football showed me. Football showed me that, Hey, no matter what you want, there's gonna be an optacle, adversity, opposition, an opponent you gotta go through to get it, and it's gonna be hard, but if you really want it, you're gonna go through it to go get it. So if y'all want them results, remember man, they only come before risks in the dictionary. All right, y'all, that'll do it for more to It. Check the show notes for all the information on our topics today. Today, I want to keep the conversation go on. Let's talk to find me on all socials at Marcel's Wiley. More Too is a production of Dan Patrick Production That Dude Entertainment and workhouse Media. Show is executive produced by Dan Patrick, Marcel's Whally, Paul Anderson, and Nick Ponella. Thanks for all the love, rates and subscriptions and reviews, membership to Whiley's World on YouTube. Keep it coming because there's more coming from More to It. Talk to y'all Hellism