Matt talks with Tice Brown, a guy, about good emails, the DAT craze, gambling proxies, non-cross-collateralized leverage, rolling calls, dinosaur fossils, bid/ask spreads in the art market, defeasing weirdo bonds, windfall-based pricing, lawyers vs. attorneys, Nebraska insurance regulation, Arkansas banking regulation, SpaceX/Tesla, Nasdaq valuation, starting investment banking in 2007 and the value of his time.