Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviews Dyana Williams. She is Broadcaster/Celebrity Strategist/Curator/Live Event Producer -Dyana is celebrating 50 years in the music, broadcasting, and entertainment industry professional. Some of her archives are now in the Library of Congress.   Co-founder of Black Music Month and is on the board of the National Museum of African American Music in Nashville

Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviews Dyana Williams. She is Broadcaster/Celebrity Strategist/Curator/Live Event Producer -Dyana is celebrating 50 years in the music, broadcasting, and entertainment industry professional. Some of her archives are now in the Library of Congress.   Co-founder of Black Music Month and is on the board of the National Museum of African American Music in Nashville

Hi, this is Rushion McDonald. Welcome to the podcast world of Money Making Conversations Master Class. I interview profits and nonprofits to learn their "Secrets to Success."  I'm a former IBM Executive with a degree in Mathematics. I started my entrepreneurial career as a stand-up comic, then became a sitcom writer, award-winning baker, social media influencer, award-winning television Executive Producer, and brand architect for super-successful celebrities and products. Money Making Conversations Master Class interviews a diverse group of celebrities, entrepreneurs, and influencers in the financial and business community with their advice and tips so you can be successful, too. It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and start building your own. People always talk about their purpose or gifts. If you have a gift, Lead with your Gift, and don't let your friends, family, or co-workers stop you from planning or living your dream. Keep Winning!

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Hi, this is Rushion McDonald. Welcome to the podcast world of Money Making Conversations Master Class. I interview profits and nonprofits to learn their "Secrets to Success."  I'm a former IBM Executive with a degree in Mathematics. I started my entrepreneurial career as a stand-up comic, then became a sitcom writer, award-winning baker, social media influencer, award-winning television Executive Producer, and brand architect for super-successful celebrities and products. Money Making Conversations Master Class interviews a diverse group of celebrities, entrepreneurs, and influencers in the financial and business community with their advice and tips so you can be successful, too. It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and start building your own. People always talk about their purpose or gifts. If you have a gift, Lead with your Gift, and don't let your friends, family, or co-workers stop you from planning or living your dream. Keep Winning!
https://www.moneymakingconversations.com
https://www.youtube.com/MoneyMakingConversations
https://www.facebook.com/MoneyMakingConversations/
https://twitter.com/moneymakingconv
https://www.instagram.com/moneymakingconversations/

Money Making Conversations Master Class

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Start your day with laughs, love, and real talk from Steve Harvey and his hilarious crew Shirley Strawberry, Carla Ferrell, Nephew Tommy, and Junior on the #1 morning radio show in America. Prank calls, life advice, celebrity guests, and nonstop energy.&nbsp;Follow, favorite, and subscribe now so you never miss a moment!
Steve Harvey brings his unmatched charisma and wisdom to mornings across the country, mixing comedy, culture, and connection like no one else. Whether you need a laugh, a lift, or a little perspective, The Steve Harvey Morning Show delivers it all.
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Rushion interviews Dyana Williams, a regular on TV One's UNSUNG and referred to as "The Mother of Black Music Month." Dyana helped establish June, Black Music Month.

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Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning!

Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Stephanie Chung. 

A trailblazer in private aviation and author of Ally Leadership: How to Lead People Who Are Not Like You.

✈️ Key Topics Discussed 1. Stephanie Chung’s Career Journey
Started as a baggage handler.
Rose to become President of JetSuite and Chief Growth Officer at Wheels Up.
One of the few African American women to lead in private aviation.

2. Understanding Private Aviation
Private jets offer flexibility and convenience—you fly on your schedule.
Access to 5,000+ airports vs. 500 for commercial airlines.
Used not just by celebrities, but also high-net-worth individuals and for humanitarian missions.

3. Ally Leadership Philosophy
Today’s workforce includes six generations, diverse ethnicities, genders, neurodiversity, and LGBTQ+ individuals.
Leadership must evolve to meet people where they are.
The book emphasizes inclusive leadership beyond race and gender.

4. Leadership Lessons
Importance of human connection and empathy.
Knowing your team beyond their job titles—understanding their lives and motivations.
Listening is as important as speaking.

5. Generational Differences in the Workplace
Millennials and Gen Z value work-life balance and flexibility.
Older generations often driven by fear of being replaced or missing opportunities.
Leaders must bridge these gaps with understanding and adaptability.

6. The Role of Fear
Fear can hinder growth, especially in older generations.
Fear of technology, being replaced, or taking time off.
Good leadership helps alleviate fear and fosters collaboration.

💬 Memorable Quotes
“You don’t have to be a celebrity to fly private. Most people who do, you’ve never heard of.”
“Ally leadership is not just about race or gender—it’s about everyone.”
“If it’s a problem with millennials, we raised them. Look in the mirror.”
“The differentiator isn’t just your product—it’s the human connection.”
“Decisions are made by people who look left, right, and forward—never behind. Stay in their line of sight.”

#STRAW

#BEST

#SHMS

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Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Stephanie Chung.&nbsp;
A trailblazer in private aviation and author of Ally Leadership: How to Lead People Who Are Not Like You.
✈️&nbsp;Key Topics Discussed 1. Stephanie Chung&rsquo;s Career Journey
<ul>
<li>Started as a baggage handler.</li>
<li>Rose to become President of JetSuite and Chief Growth Officer at Wheels Up.</li>
<li>One of the few African American women to lead in private aviation.</li>
</ul>
2. Understanding Private Aviation
<ul>
<li>Private jets offer flexibility and convenience&mdash;you fly on your schedule.</li>
<li>Access to 5,000+ airports vs. 500 for commercial airlines.</li>
<li>Used not just by celebrities, but also high-net-worth individuals and for humanitarian missions.</li>
</ul>
3. Ally Leadership Philosophy
<ul>
<li>Today&rsquo;s workforce includes six generations, diverse ethnicities, genders, neurodiversity, and LGBTQ+ individuals.</li>
<li>Leadership must evolve to meet people where they are.</li>
<li>The book emphasizes inclusive leadership beyond race and gender.</li>
</ul>
4. Leadership Lessons
<ul>
<li>Importance of human connection and empathy.</li>
<li>Knowing your team beyond their job titles&mdash;understanding their lives and motivations.</li>
<li>Listening is as important as speaking.</li>
</ul>
5. Generational Differences in the Workplace
<ul>
<li>Millennials and Gen Z value work-life balance and flexibility.</li>
<li>Older generations often driven by fear of being replaced or missing opportunities.</li>
<li>Leaders must bridge these gaps with understanding and adaptability.</li>
</ul>
6. The Role of Fear
<ul>
<li>Fear can hinder growth, especially in older generations.</li>
<li>Fear of technology, being replaced, or taking time off.</li>
<li>Good leadership helps alleviate fear and fosters collaboration.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
💬 Memorable Quotes
<ul>
<li>&ldquo;You don&rsquo;t have to be a celebrity to fly private. Most people who do, you&rsquo;ve never heard of.&rdquo;</li>
<li>&ldquo;Ally leadership is not just about race or gender&mdash;it&rsquo;s about everyone.&rdquo;</li>
<li>&ldquo;If it&rsquo;s a problem with millennials, we raised them. Look in the mirror.&rdquo;</li>
<li>&ldquo;The differentiator isn&rsquo;t just your product&mdash;it&rsquo;s the human connection.&rdquo;</li>
<li>&ldquo;Decisions are made by people who look left, right, and forward&mdash;never behind. Stay in their line of sight.&rdquo;</li>
</ul>
#STRAW
#BEST
#SHMS

Overcoming the Odds: African American woman rose from baggage handler to become President of JetSuite and Chief Growth Officer at Wheels Up.

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/aecd51ee-e0f3-40cc-b0d8-b4470006bc75/transcript

Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning!

Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Ashley Joi Boyd.

Interview Purpose

The purpose of this interview is to explore the intersection of creativity, financial literacy, ownership, and personal resilience, using Ashley Joi Boyd’s journey as a Grammy‑nominated songwriter, music publisher, real estate developer, and author as a powerful case study.

Through honest conversation, Ashley reframes success in the entertainment industry beyond fame and hits, emphasizing business ownership, financial education, mindset, and long‑term wealth building. The interview also serves as an empowerment message—particularly for women—demonstrating that financial setbacks, including bankruptcy, can become turning points rather than permanent barriers.

Major Themes & Key Takeaways 1. Songwriting Is the Heart—and the Business—of Music

Ashley explains that songwriting is not just creativity; it is the foundation of lasting success in the music industry. While artists may earn from performances, writers and publishers earn from ownership, collecting royalties every time a song is played, streamed, or used globally.

Key takeaway: Creativity generates income, but ownership generates wealth.

2. Publishing Is Where the Real Money Lives

Ashley highlights that music publishing—not performing—is the most lucrative side of the industry. By owning her publishing company, she positioned herself to earn long‑term, recurring income rather than relying on one‑time payments or constant touring.

Key takeaway: Understanding back‑end revenue streams is critical in any industry.

3. Business Knowledge Creates Leverage

Raised in an entertainment household, Ashley learned early the importance of understanding contracts, rights, and percentages. She famously walked away from a publishing deal that demanded 75% ownership—choosing long‑term control over short‑term opportunity.

Key takeaway: Walking away from the wrong deal can be the right decision.

4. Opportunity Meets Preparation

Ashley’s collaboration on Justin Bieber’s hit “Yummy” did not happen overnight. It was the result of years of preparation, proven skill, respect for her craft, and being ready when the door opened.

Key takeaway: Access opens doors, but preparation determines what happens next.

5. Financial Collapse Can Become Financial Education

Ashley openly discusses filing for bankruptcy after the 2008 housing crash—a moment she describes as devastating but transformative. With no guidance at the time, she was forced to learn money management the hard way, reshaping her relationship with credit, debt, and planning.

Key takeaway: Bankruptcy is not the end—it can be the beginning of financial mastery.

6. Financial Literacy Is Often Untaught—but Essential

Ashley stresses that many people, especially women, are never taught how to manage money, credit, or wealth. This gap inspired her book Financially Fly: Mastering Money and Wealth for Women, written to create a safe, honest space for financial conversations.

Key takeaway: Making money is not the same as knowing how to keep or grow it.

7. Wealth Is About Structure, Not Just Cash

In defining generational wealth, Ashley emphasizes trusts, insurance policies, estate planning, and real estate—structures that protect families long after income stops.

Key takeaway: Generational wealth is built with systems, not just income.

8. Invest in Yourself First

One of Ashley’s most practical strategies is prioritizing yourself as a financial line item—saving consistently, protecting your credit, and building habits that support future freedom.

Key takeaway: If you don’t prioritize yourself financially, no one else will.

9. Mindset Drives Money Patterns

Ashley underscores that many financial struggles are rooted in scarcity mindset and emotional spending. Shifting to an abundance mindset and facing numbers honestly is the first step toward change.

Key takeaway: Your mindset controls your financial outcomes.

Notable Quotes

“Songwriting is the heart and soul of a song—it’s what makes it last.”

“The real money in music is on the back end.”

“I walked away from a deal because the business wasn’t right—and that changed everything.”

“Bankruptcy forced me to learn how to protect myself.”

“Just because you know how to make money doesn’t mean you know how to keep it.”

“Generational wealth is structure—trusts, insurance, planning.”

“Put yourself on your own balance sheet.”

“Your mindset controls everything around you.”

Overall Message

Ashley Joi Boyd’s interview is a masterclass in reclaiming control—creatively, financially, and mentally. Her story demonstrates that wealth is not defined by income alone, but by ownership, education, structure, and intention.

By openly sharing both her success and setbacks, Ashley empowers listeners to stop avoiding financial truth, build sustainable habits, and believe that long‑term wealth is possible—no matter where they are starting.

#SHMS #BEST #STRAW #AMI

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Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Ashley Joi Boyd.
Interview Purpose
The purpose of this interview is to explore the intersection of creativity, financial literacy, ownership, and personal resilience, using Ashley Joi Boyd&rsquo;s journey as a Grammy‑nominated songwriter, music publisher, real estate developer, and author as a powerful case study.
Through honest conversation, Ashley reframes success in the entertainment industry beyond fame and hits, emphasizing business ownership, financial education, mindset, and long‑term wealth building. The interview also serves as an empowerment message&mdash;particularly for women&mdash;demonstrating that financial setbacks, including bankruptcy, can become turning points rather than permanent barriers.
<hr>
Major Themes &amp; Key Takeaways 1. Songwriting Is the Heart&mdash;and the Business&mdash;of Music
Ashley explains that songwriting is not just creativity; it is the foundation of lasting success in the music industry. While artists may earn from performances, writers and publishers earn from ownership, collecting royalties every time a song is played, streamed, or used globally.
Key takeaway: Creativity generates income, but ownership generates wealth.
<hr>
2. Publishing Is Where the Real Money Lives
Ashley highlights that music publishing&mdash;not performing&mdash;is the most lucrative side of the industry. By owning her publishing company, she positioned herself to earn long‑term, recurring income rather than relying on one‑time payments or constant touring.
Key takeaway: Understanding back‑end revenue streams is critical in any industry.
<hr>
3. Business Knowledge Creates Leverage
Raised in an entertainment household, Ashley learned early the importance of understanding contracts, rights, and percentages. She famously walked away from a publishing deal that demanded 75% ownership&mdash;choosing long‑term control over short‑term opportunity.
Key takeaway: Walking away from the wrong deal can be the right decision.
<hr>
4. Opportunity Meets Preparation
Ashley&rsquo;s collaboration on Justin Bieber&rsquo;s hit &ldquo;Yummy&rdquo; did not happen overnight. It was the result of years of preparation, proven skill, respect for her craft, and being ready when the door opened.
Key takeaway: Access opens doors, but preparation determines what happens next.
<hr>
5. Financial Collapse Can Become Financial Education
Ashley openly discusses filing for bankruptcy after the 2008 housing crash&mdash;a moment she describes as devastating but transformative. With no guidance at the time, she was forced to learn money management the hard way, reshaping her relationship with credit, debt, and planning.
Key takeaway: Bankruptcy is not the end&mdash;it can be the beginning of financial mastery.
<hr>
6. Financial Literacy Is Often Untaught&mdash;but Essential
Ashley stresses that many people, especially women, are never taught how to manage money, credit, or wealth. This gap inspired her book Financially Fly: Mastering Money and Wealth for Women, written to create a safe, honest space for financial conversations.
Key takeaway: Making money is not the same as knowing how to keep or grow it.
<hr>
7. Wealth Is About Structure, Not Just Cash
In defining generational wealth, Ashley emphasizes trusts, insurance policies, estate planning, and real estate&mdash;structures that protect families long after income stops.
Key takeaway: Generational wealth is built with systems, not just income.
<hr>
8. Invest in Yourself First
One of Ashley&rsquo;s most practical strategies is prioritizing yourself as a financial line item&mdash;saving consistently, protecting your credit, and building habits that support future freedom.
Key takeaway: If you don&rsquo;t prioritize yourself financially, no one else will.
<hr>
9. Mindset Drives Money Patterns
Ashley underscores that many financial struggles are rooted in scarcity mindset and emotional spending. Shifting to an abundance mindset and facing numbers honestly is the first step toward change.
Key takeaway: Your mindset controls your financial outcomes.
<hr>
Notable Quotes
<blockquote>
&ldquo;Songwriting is the heart and soul of a song&mdash;it&rsquo;s what makes it last.&rdquo;
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
&ldquo;The real money in music is on the back end.&rdquo;
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
&ldquo;I walked away from a deal because the business wasn&rsquo;t right&mdash;and that changed everything.&rdquo;
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
&ldquo;Bankruptcy forced me to learn how to protect myself.&rdquo;
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
&ldquo;Just because you know how to make money doesn&rsquo;t mean you know how to keep it.&rdquo;
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
&ldquo;Generational wealth is structure&mdash;trusts, insurance, planning.&rdquo;
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
&ldquo;Put yourself on your own balance sheet.&rdquo;
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
&ldquo;Your mindset controls everything around you.&rdquo;
</blockquote>
<hr>
Overall Message
Ashley Joi Boyd&rsquo;s interview is a masterclass in reclaiming control&mdash;creatively, financially, and mentally. Her story demonstrates that wealth is not defined by income alone, but by ownership, education, structure, and intention.
By openly sharing both her success and setbacks, Ashley empowers listeners to stop avoiding financial truth, build sustainable habits, and believe that long‑term wealth is possible&mdash;no matter where they are starting.
<hr>
#SHMS #BEST #STRAW #AMI

Overcoming the Odds: She learned bankruptcy is not the end—it can be the beginning of financial mastery.

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/f3580f24-4b2f-4bda-8e3d-b427017b0084/transcript

Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning!

Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewedRonnie Williams.

Founder & CEO of Forever Staffing Healthcare Agency, a Black woman–owned healthcare staffing firm based in Green Bay, Wisconsin. She discusses her journey from CNA → HR → Entrepreneur, the challenges in healthcare staffing, the importance of strategic placement, and the growth of her company from local to national reach.

Rushion McDonald guides the conversation toward themes of ambition, entrepreneurship, burnout in healthcare, pay disparities, and the mechanics of building a staffing agency from scratch.

Purpose of the Interview

The interview aims to:

1. Highlight a Black woman entrepreneur’s journey

Williams shares how she transitioned from physically demanding CNA work to HR and eventually starting her own national staffing agency.

2. Educate listeners about healthcare staffing realities

She explains burnout, pay issues, and staffing challenges common in the healthcare industry, especially among CNAs.

3. Offer insights on entrepreneurship and leadership

She breaks down what it takes to launch and scale a staffing agency—HR, legal, budgeting, recruiting strategy, and more.

4. Provide practical information for clinicians and healthcare facilities

Williams explains how candidates can join her roster and how facilities can partner with her agency.

Key Takeaways 1. Ronnie’s Career Path
Started as a CNA in 2000 caring for seniors and people with disabilities.
Later transitioned into HR and recruiting to continue helping people in a less physically demanding way.
Always felt like a leader in corporate roles and wanted to start her own business.

2. Why She Founded Forever Staffing
Wanted to offer better support to healthcare facilities and clinicians.
Initially intended to serve Green Bay, but national demand found her—clients from Texas and Arizona reached out organically.

3. Burnout in Healthcare

She outlines the real causes of burnout:
Understaffing (one caregiver for up to 25 residents).
Long shifts and overtime.
Emotional strain from caring for sick or end‑of‑life patients.
Continuous lifting and physical demands.

4. Pay Disparities
CNAs are underpaid despite being on the “front lines.”
CNA pay ranges from $15–28/hr depending on setting.
RN pay ranges from $33–60/hr.

5. Strategic Staffing Approach

Her agency doesn’t just “post jobs”—they:
Actively source candidates.
Conduct phone interviews and vetting.
Review background checks and confirm active certifications.

6. Easy Entry Into In‑Home Care
In‑home caregiving is one of the easiest positions to fill.
They can train new caregivers and help them get certified.
Background checks and compassion are the primary requirements.

7. How to Work With Her Agency

Clinicians:
Apply via the “Apply Now” tab on ForeverStaffing.org by uploading a resume.

Facilities:
Use the “Become a Partner” tab to schedule a meeting for direct hire, per‑diem, last‑minute, or contract staffing.



Notable Quotes from Ronnie Williams On Why She Became a CNA

“I love helping people… my entire family are in the health care field. I’m a giver.”



On Transitioning Out of CNA Work

“Being a CNA was very physical… I wanted a career where I can still help people but on a broader side.”

On Leadership and Entrepreneurship

“I always felt like I was the leader. I should be hosting the meetings, implementing things.”



On Pay Disparities

“CNAs need more money. They do most of the physical things and I think they should get more pay.”

On Expansion Beyond Wisconsin

“National came out of the blue… I started getting clients in Texas and Arizona messaging me.”



On Strategic Staffing

“We don’t just staff—we get to know our clients… where they’re spending the most money and their hard‑to‑fill positions.”

On Being Her Own Boss

“The advantage is flexibility… leaving a legacy for my kids… I can build a diverse team and hire who I want.”



#SHMS #STRAW #BEST

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Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Ronnie Williams.
Founder &amp; CEO of&nbsp;Forever Staffing Healthcare Agency, a Black woman&ndash;owned healthcare staffing firm based in Green Bay, Wisconsin. She discusses her journey from CNA &rarr; HR &rarr; Entrepreneur, the challenges in healthcare staffing, the importance of strategic placement, and the growth of her company from local to national reach.
Rushion McDonald guides the conversation toward themes of ambition, entrepreneurship, burnout in healthcare, pay disparities, and the mechanics of building a staffing agency from scratch.
<hr>
Purpose of the Interview
The interview aims to:
1. Highlight a Black woman entrepreneur&rsquo;s journey
Williams shares how she transitioned from physically demanding CNA work to HR and eventually starting her own national staffing agency.
2. Educate listeners about healthcare staffing realities
She explains burnout, pay issues, and staffing challenges common in the healthcare industry, especially among CNAs.
3. Offer insights on entrepreneurship and leadership
She breaks down what it takes to launch and scale a staffing agency&mdash;HR, legal, budgeting, recruiting strategy, and more.
4. Provide practical information for clinicians and healthcare facilities
Williams explains how candidates can join her roster and how facilities can partner with her agency.
<hr>
Key Takeaways 1. Ronnie&rsquo;s Career Path
<ul>
<li>Started as a CNA in 2000 caring for seniors and people with disabilities.</li>
<li>Later transitioned into HR and recruiting to continue helping people in a less physically demanding way.</li>
<li>Always felt like a leader in corporate roles and wanted to start her own business.</li>
</ul>
2. Why She Founded Forever Staffing
<ul>
<li>Wanted to offer better support to healthcare facilities and clinicians.</li>
<li>Initially intended to serve Green Bay, but national demand found her&mdash;clients from Texas and Arizona reached out organically.</li>
</ul>
3. Burnout in Healthcare
She outlines the real causes of burnout:
<ul>
<li>Understaffing (one caregiver for up to 25 residents).</li>
<li>Long shifts and overtime.</li>
<li>Emotional strain from caring for sick or end‑of‑life patients.</li>
<li>Continuous lifting and physical demands.</li>
</ul>
4. Pay Disparities
<ul>
<li>CNAs are underpaid despite being on the &ldquo;front lines.&rdquo;</li>
<li>CNA pay ranges from $15&ndash;28/hr depending on setting.</li>
<li>RN pay ranges from $33&ndash;60/hr.</li>
</ul>
5. Strategic Staffing Approach
Her agency doesn&rsquo;t just &ldquo;post jobs&rdquo;&mdash;they:
<ul>
<li>Actively source candidates.</li>
<li>Conduct phone interviews and vetting.</li>
<li>Review background checks and confirm active certifications.</li>
</ul>
6. Easy Entry Into In‑Home Care
<ul>
<li>In‑home caregiving is one of the easiest positions to fill.</li>
<li>They can train new caregivers and help them get certified.</li>
<li>Background checks and compassion are the primary requirements.</li>
</ul>
7. How to Work With Her Agency
Clinicians: Apply via the &ldquo;Apply Now&rdquo; tab on ForeverStaffing.org by uploading a resume.
Facilities: Use the &ldquo;Become a Partner&rdquo; tab to schedule a meeting for direct hire, per‑diem, last‑minute, or contract staffing. 
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Notable Quotes from Ronnie Williams On Why She Became a CNA
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&ldquo;I love helping people&hellip; my entire family are in the health care field. I&rsquo;m a giver.&rdquo; 
</blockquote>
On Transitioning Out of CNA Work
<blockquote>
&ldquo;Being a CNA was very physical&hellip; I wanted a career where I can still help people but on a broader side.&rdquo;
</blockquote>
On Leadership and Entrepreneurship
<blockquote>
&ldquo;I always felt like I was the leader. I should be hosting the meetings, implementing things.&rdquo; 
</blockquote>
On Pay Disparities
<blockquote>
&ldquo;CNAs need more money. They do most of the physical things and I think they should get more pay.&rdquo;
</blockquote>
On Expansion Beyond Wisconsin
<blockquote>
&ldquo;National came out of the blue&hellip; I started getting clients in Texas and Arizona messaging me.&rdquo; 
</blockquote>
On Strategic Staffing
<blockquote>
&ldquo;We don&rsquo;t just staff&mdash;we get to know our clients&hellip; where they&rsquo;re spending the most money and their hard‑to‑fill positions.&rdquo;
</blockquote>
On Being Her Own Boss
<blockquote>
&ldquo;The advantage is flexibility&hellip; leaving a legacy for my kids&hellip; I can build a diverse team and hire who I want.&rdquo; 
</blockquote>
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#SHMS #STRAW #BEST

Employment: Launch health care staffing to serve Green Bay, but national demand found her—clients from Texas and Arizona.

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Rushion interviews Dyana Williams, a regular on TV One's UNSUNG and referred to as "The Mother of Black Music Month." Dyana helped establish June, Black Music Month.

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