Welcome to money making Conversations.

Welcome to money making Conversations.

It's to show that she is the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me advice on many occasions. And in case you didn't notice, I'm not broke. You know he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision make because it's what he likes to do.

It's to show that she is the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me advice on many occasions. And in case you didn't notice, I'm not broke. You know he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision make because it's what he likes to do.

It's what he likes to share.

It's what he likes to share.

Now it's time to hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money making conversations.

Now it's time to hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money making conversations.

Here we go, Welcome to money making conversation. He's announced my name and I have to step up to it. I am Rashan McDonald. Our theme is every Tuesday, every week. Our theme is there's no perfect time to start following your dreams. That's the thing. A lot of people don't know when to start. A lot of people are afraid to start. But if you start, at least you can hear it in the direction that may makes some sense. The problem I have with people that they just sit there complaining, going to the same job, complaining, probably dating the same person, complain, married to the same person, complaining. If you start moving the complaints out the way, you can probably start moving forward with some positivity in your life. Stop creating your own level of negativity because I recognize that we all have different definitions of success. For you, it may be the size of your paycheck. Mine is inspiring you to accomplish your goal, your goal and live your very best life. It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and start living your own.

Here we go, Welcome to money making conversation. He's announced my name and I have to step up to it. I am Rashan McDonald. Our theme is every Tuesday, every week. Our theme is there's no perfect time to start following your dreams. That's the thing. A lot of people don't know when to start. A lot of people are afraid to start. But if you start, at least you can hear it in the direction that may makes some sense. The problem I have with people that they just sit there complaining, going to the same job, complaining, probably dating the same person, complain, married to the same person, complaining. If you start moving the complaints out the way, you can probably start moving forward with some positivity in your life. Stop creating your own level of negativity because I recognize that we all have different definitions of success. For you, it may be the size of your paycheck. Mine is inspiring you to accomplish your goal, your goal and live your very best life. It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and start living your own.

Wow.

Wow.

I hear that a lot people always talk about their purpose or gifts. If you have a gift, lead with your gift and don't let your friend's family will cowork and stop you from planning or living your dream. Today's show really is about black girl magic. That's the person I am about to interview is truly black girl magic. My guess is a writer, director, and producer. Crystal Robison Christal is a member of the Director's Guild of America and has directed episodes of Green Leaf, All American Dire or Future President, American Soul, Long Soul, O Slow Exhale, Black Mafia Family BML, and The Gilded Age. She's also Enjoyed and George, serving as a producing director on Queen's which is on ABC, and Genius which is a great series you can find on that geo. She's an enthusiastic writer with projects and development and remains excited about storytellers for generations to come. And she's African American. Please work with the Money Making Conversations Master Class, Crystal Roberson.

I hear that a lot people always talk about their purpose or gifts. If you have a gift, lead with your gift and don't let your friend's family will cowork and stop you from planning or living your dream. Today's show really is about black girl magic. That's the person I am about to interview is truly black girl magic. My guess is a writer, director, and producer. Crystal Robison Christal is a member of the Director's Guild of America and has directed episodes of Green Leaf, All American Dire or Future President, American Soul, Long Soul, O Slow Exhale, Black Mafia Family BML, and The Gilded Age. She's also Enjoyed and George, serving as a producing director on Queen's which is on ABC, and Genius which is a great series you can find on that geo. She's an enthusiastic writer with projects and development and remains excited about storytellers for generations to come. And she's African American. Please work with the Money Making Conversations Master Class, Crystal Roberson.

How are you doing, Crystal?

How are you doing, Crystal?

I'm doing great, Rishawn, thanks for having me.

I'm doing great, Rishawn, thanks for having me.

First of all, how do you have time to talk to me? How do you have time to talk to me on my little show, Money Making Conversations Maths Class.

First of all, how do you have time to talk to me? How do you have time to talk to me on my little show, Money Making Conversations Maths Class.

Well, you know, first of all, it's not a little show.

Well, you know, first of all, it's not a little show.

Hear.

Hear.

A lot of my friends are big fans of your show. And right now, you know, in the film industry, we do a show and then we have a break. So I'm enjoying a break right now. I start prepping on being math next week. But for now, I am relaxing in Los angele lists enjoy my off time.

A lot of my friends are big fans of your show. And right now, you know, in the film industry, we do a show and then we have a break. So I'm enjoying a break right now. I start prepping on being math next week. But for now, I am relaxing in Los angele lists enjoy my off time.

Well, thank you, will thank you for the compliment on the show.

Well, thank you, will thank you for the compliment on the show.

But let's let's talk about because I know, I jokingly said, because being a director is not a forty hour week job. It's not going to work at eight leaving it five. It's not Oh can you stay a couple of hours. Oh, we're gonna run a little over the five o'clock. You're gonna be good with that, because that's why I know that in season I could never interview you. When you're an actual production, trying to interview you will be just like a really like a waste of time because you really can't dictate your schedule because anything.

But let's let's talk about because I know, I jokingly said, because being a director is not a forty hour week job. It's not going to work at eight leaving it five. It's not Oh can you stay a couple of hours. Oh, we're gonna run a little over the five o'clock. You're gonna be good with that, because that's why I know that in season I could never interview you. When you're an actual production, trying to interview you will be just like a really like a waste of time because you really can't dictate your schedule because anything.

Can pop up.

Can pop up.

Can you get people like a capsule of what what is the director's life like?

Can you get people like a capsule of what what is the director's life like?

Yeah, so a director's life is you know when your in production, Like you said, we go we shoot at ten to twelve hour days every day, and so we do that to just maximize the amount of scenes that we can shoot in a day, and the mo the more that we get done in the day, the less time the overall show takes to be completed, and the less money as well. So the more days you spend doing it, the more money you're gonna spend. So they try to push as much into a day as possible. So that's why people in the film industry work twelve hour days. So as a director, I get there at call time. We have everything is unionized in the industry, so that's why it's so unpredictable because you have to have twelve hour turnaround. So if we've wrapped at eight pm at night, we can't come in until eight am or nine am the next day, and so we never know kind of what time we're gonna wrap, So we never know what time we're gonna start, you know, and so it becomes hard to tell, like when your lunch break is gonna be and all of that. But the so the life of a director is very you know, it's time consuming with uh when you're filming, and you really have to try hard to do that work life balance and maintain you know, relationships and everything with your family and loved ones. But usually people are pretty understanding, you know, people who love you, they understand. And then you have great moments where like like I just wrapped a Genius M l k X mid March and I've had all of the rest of March.

Yeah, so a director's life is you know when your in production, Like you said, we go we shoot at ten to twelve hour days every day, and so we do that to just maximize the amount of scenes that we can shoot in a day, and the mo the more that we get done in the day, the less time the overall show takes to be completed, and the less money as well. So the more days you spend doing it, the more money you're gonna spend. So they try to push as much into a day as possible. So that's why people in the film industry work twelve hour days. So as a director, I get there at call time. We have everything is unionized in the industry, so that's why it's so unpredictable because you have to have twelve hour turnaround. So if we've wrapped at eight pm at night, we can't come in until eight am or nine am the next day, and so we never know kind of what time we're gonna wrap, So we never know what time we're gonna start, you know, and so it becomes hard to tell, like when your lunch break is gonna be and all of that. But the so the life of a director is very you know, it's time consuming with uh when you're filming, and you really have to try hard to do that work life balance and maintain you know, relationships and everything with your family and loved ones. But usually people are pretty understanding, you know, people who love you, they understand. And then you have great moments where like like I just wrapped a Genius M l k X mid March and I've had all of the rest of March.

And stuff right that it's not that I just wrap email k X Martin Luther King Malcolm X. Now can you give us a little because I saw the Aretha series on Genius, which was amazing. What's amazing? I think a Cynthia Riva was the was the play the Reva. It was played Aretha in that series. Yes, and she was amazing. And so what they do is they kind of it's like maybe even where from four to six episode?

And stuff right that it's not that I just wrap email k X Martin Luther King Malcolm X. Now can you give us a little because I saw the Aretha series on Genius, which was amazing. What's amazing? I think a Cynthia Riva was the was the play the Reva. It was played Aretha in that series. Yes, and she was amazing. And so what they do is they kind of it's like maybe even where from four to six episode?

How many episodes was this was? This series? Was this limited series for?

How many episodes was this was? This series? Was this limited series for?

It was eight episodes?

It was eight episodes?

Eight episodes and you directed all eight?

Eight episodes and you directed all eight?

No, I directed about four or five. I've directed about four out of the eighth.

No, I directed about four or five. I've directed about four out of the eighth.

Wow.

Wow.

Okay, So talk walkers through that. First of all, what is it the series about? Because you have two iconic civil rights activists, both tragically were assassinated, Martin Luther King Jr. And Malcolm X two.

Okay, So talk walkers through that. First of all, what is it the series about? Because you have two iconic civil rights activists, both tragically were assassinated, Martin Luther King Jr. And Malcolm X two.

One was pieced.

One was pieced.

One was someone would say or advocated violence in the sense that, you know, you got to fight for what you want in America. So talk about bringing you on board for that project and what did you have to do to prep for it?

One was someone would say or advocated violence in the sense that, you know, you got to fight for what you want in America. So talk about bringing you on board for that project and what did you have to do to prep for it?

So what got made that job? You know, I had just general meetings with people. You know, you want to know, you want people to know who you are when you're an African American, you know director coming up in the industry. You know, I like everybody to meet. So I went out on meetings. I had a lot of general meetings and one of the producers who I'm of genius, I met about two years prior to the Genius mlk X job, Francie Calfo, So I met her in general, and she really liked me, so she always sort of kept an eye out for me for things. So when I saw that Genius mlk X was coming up, I was like, wow, I would love to direct on that show. And I just reached out to her to see how she was doing. You know, it's really about maintaining those relationships and knowing that, like even though something might not come from it right now, that you never know a year from now, two years from now, it could pay off big. And that's what happened with me. I had a general meeting, we hit it off great, and then by you know, a while later, mlk X was coming up, and I would have been happy just to direct one episode of Genius m LKS, but they saw me as a person who could be a great producing director. So I was a producer as well as a director on the on the series and prepping for that really like tons of audio books. Wanted to know not only Malcolm and Martin's story, but also Karta and Betty's, you know, reading all the autobiographies. You know, when you're a busy person. Auto audio books are the truth, you know what. I'm so on the way in the work, on the way to the grocery store wherever I was going, I was listening to Malcolm Story, Martin Story, Kartta's or Betty's, and I could and I could infuse that into the work because when you come, when you come to that type of work with the truth of what was actually what actually happened, everyone there, the actors and everyone there is at ease because they say, oh, our director really knows this stuff. She knows what she's doing it.

So what got made that job? You know, I had just general meetings with people. You know, you want to know, you want people to know who you are when you're an African American, you know director coming up in the industry. You know, I like everybody to meet. So I went out on meetings. I had a lot of general meetings and one of the producers who I'm of genius, I met about two years prior to the Genius mlk X job, Francie Calfo, So I met her in general, and she really liked me, so she always sort of kept an eye out for me for things. So when I saw that Genius mlk X was coming up, I was like, wow, I would love to direct on that show. And I just reached out to her to see how she was doing. You know, it's really about maintaining those relationships and knowing that, like even though something might not come from it right now, that you never know a year from now, two years from now, it could pay off big. And that's what happened with me. I had a general meeting, we hit it off great, and then by you know, a while later, mlk X was coming up, and I would have been happy just to direct one episode of Genius m LKS, but they saw me as a person who could be a great producing director. So I was a producer as well as a director on the on the series and prepping for that really like tons of audio books. Wanted to know not only Malcolm and Martin's story, but also Karta and Betty's, you know, reading all the autobiographies. You know, when you're a busy person. Auto audio books are the truth, you know what. I'm so on the way in the work, on the way to the grocery store wherever I was going, I was listening to Malcolm Story, Martin Story, Kartta's or Betty's, and I could and I could infuse that into the work because when you come, when you come to that type of work with the truth of what was actually what actually happened, everyone there, the actors and everyone there is at ease because they say, oh, our director really knows this stuff. She knows what she's doing it.

But did it sadden you a little bit because of the fact that you, you know, you learned some things and then the value of their relationship was just snuffed out so early in their lives and for just for just for just for violent reasons when you were doing your research, because I've done research on projects and I go, wow it and it really touches me emotionally, and to do too iconic men like this, Well, how did they impact you personally?

But did it sadden you a little bit because of the fact that you, you know, you learned some things and then the value of their relationship was just snuffed out so early in their lives and for just for just for just for violent reasons when you were doing your research, because I've done research on projects and I go, wow it and it really touches me emotionally, and to do too iconic men like this, Well, how did they impact you personally?

Well, it was, Honestly, it was more inspiring for me than I thought it would be, because, you know, even though it's sad, they were both assassinated at age thirty nine. But you know, it was very inspiring that these men because I'm I'm thirty nine, you know, dare I say my age on radio? But like it hit me because I was like, wow, all the things that these men dare to do by thirty nine years old. I mean, they knew that they were putting their life on the line. They knew that like they were on dangerous territory, they knew the FBI was spying on them and out for them, and they still saw the need to make sure that they stood up for what they believed in. And that was really inspiring. It was like, wow, you know, there are people in this world who will risk it all for their brother, you know that for their sister. And it was just inspiring to me. And every day was so fulfilling because even on our hard days are long days, you knew that you were paying, you know, tribute to this legacy of these men and women, and it was just it was really inspiring. It made you look at yourself kind of in the mirror like okay, what am I doing, you know with my thirty nine years.

Well, it was, Honestly, it was more inspiring for me than I thought it would be, because, you know, even though it's sad, they were both assassinated at age thirty nine. But you know, it was very inspiring that these men because I'm I'm thirty nine, you know, dare I say my age on radio? But like it hit me because I was like, wow, all the things that these men dare to do by thirty nine years old. I mean, they knew that they were putting their life on the line. They knew that like they were on dangerous territory, they knew the FBI was spying on them and out for them, and they still saw the need to make sure that they stood up for what they believed in. And that was really inspiring. It was like, wow, you know, there are people in this world who will risk it all for their brother, you know that for their sister. And it was just inspiring to me. And every day was so fulfilling because even on our hard days are long days, you knew that you were paying, you know, tribute to this legacy of these men and women, and it was just it was really inspiring. It made you look at yourself kind of in the mirror like okay, what am I doing, you know with my thirty nine years.

You know it's really when I look at you, I'm speaking to HIMSS Crystal Robinson Robertson, excuse me, she's.

You know it's really when I look at you, I'm speaking to HIMSS Crystal Robinson Robertson, excuse me, she's.

A member of the DJA.

A member of the DJA.

The reason I say that because they have rules. When you're in DJA, you're going to work so many hours. Like I'll remember when I got my first writer's job, when he said, why are people going on strike? Because they got to fix rules that people will abuse you. I remember I was writing on Me and the Boys on ABC. It was I think it was ninety three, and I was my executive producer kept me in the writer's room and everybody else till sun up. I mean, we came to work when it was light, it got dark, and we were still in the writer's room when it got light again. And that is why you have to strike. That's why you have to have rules. That's why you have to have these deals because people will abuse you. Yes, you are well paid, but you don't have to be abused because that's what you're fried mentally. And so that's why she said, Look, when you stop working, you have to come back at a certain hour. Otherwise their people out there will work you sixteen eighteen hours.

The reason I say that because they have rules. When you're in DJA, you're going to work so many hours. Like I'll remember when I got my first writer's job, when he said, why are people going on strike? Because they got to fix rules that people will abuse you. I remember I was writing on Me and the Boys on ABC. It was I think it was ninety three, and I was my executive producer kept me in the writer's room and everybody else till sun up. I mean, we came to work when it was light, it got dark, and we were still in the writer's room when it got light again. And that is why you have to strike. That's why you have to have rules. That's why you have to have these deals because people will abuse you. Yes, you are well paid, but you don't have to be abused because that's what you're fried mentally. And so that's why she said, Look, when you stop working, you have to come back at a certain hour. Otherwise their people out there will work you sixteen eighteen hours.

Correct, Yes, they will keep working. If there are no rules to keep you from working all day, they will work you day and night into the next day. Like you said, you see the sun twice, you know, see the sun rise twice.

Correct, Yes, they will keep working. If there are no rules to keep you from working all day, they will work you day and night into the next day. Like you said, you see the sun twice, you know, see the sun rise twice.

And that's not fair. That's not fair.

And that's not fair. That's not fair.

And I just want to say when I you know, it's really interesting because when I do research on everybody, when I come on the show, and then you know, they send these little blurbs about you, and they send a bio or and you start googling your name. You going, Okay, her name keeps popping up over here, popping up over here, and when and I just won't put everybody in perspective with your talent, your actual talent.

And I just want to say when I you know, it's really interesting because when I do research on everybody, when I come on the show, and then you know, they send these little blurbs about you, and they send a bio or and you start googling your name. You going, Okay, her name keeps popping up over here, popping up over here, and when and I just won't put everybody in perspective with your talent, your actual talent.

You know, she directed Greenleaf.

You know, she directed Greenleaf.

That's gospel church, okay, in all American you know, that's sports football. Okay, we'll go, and then we go American Soul. That's soul trained that music right there, Okay, Okay, she's done.

That's gospel church, okay, in all American you know, that's sports football. Okay, we'll go, and then we go American Soul. That's soul trained that music right there, Okay, Okay, she's done.

And then b M F.

And then b M F.

Black Matfield that's drugs. That's violence. That's scary people, scary people.

Black Matfield that's drugs. That's violence. That's scary people, scary people.

Okay?

Okay?

And this did he slide right over there to Diary of a Future President Disney? Plus, how do you keep all these hats on your head?

And this did he slide right over there to Diary of a Future President Disney? Plus, how do you keep all these hats on your head?

Well, you know, like at the end of this no, I don't know.

Well, you know, like at the end of this no, I don't know.

Miss Robertson, No, I don't know.

Miss Robertson, No, I don't know.

Don't you put them?

Don't you put them?

Don't you do that where you know Rashon.

Don't you do that where you know Rashon.

Well, Rashan, They're all stories, right, And so I love great stories. And at the end of the day, I just tell myself, I know how to tell this story. You know, you you just you read the story. You're like, I understand this and you and I find the part of it that speaks to me, or the part of it that I've experienced before, or you know, the part that's closest to my heart, and I'm like, you know what, I know how to tell this story. I know I know exactly what to do. And at the end of the day, that's really all you're doing. You're telling a story, and you're making sure that the audience is going to enjoy it the way that you enjoyed it. And so I'm sitting in for y'all. I'm always sitting in for the audience. When I'm directing back to who I'm thinking about. I'm thinking about the people at home, you know, watching and how they're gonna feel. So if I can always just put myself in that place and understand what the story is, I can tell any story I'm not intimidated by any time period or however big explosions or any car chases or whatever, because at the end of the day, you're telling a story and you're doing it one shot out.

Well, Rashan, They're all stories, right, And so I love great stories. And at the end of the day, I just tell myself, I know how to tell this story. You know, you you just you read the story. You're like, I understand this and you and I find the part of it that speaks to me, or the part of it that I've experienced before, or you know, the part that's closest to my heart, and I'm like, you know what, I know how to tell this story. I know I know exactly what to do. And at the end of the day, that's really all you're doing. You're telling a story, and you're making sure that the audience is going to enjoy it the way that you enjoyed it. And so I'm sitting in for y'all. I'm always sitting in for the audience. When I'm directing back to who I'm thinking about. I'm thinking about the people at home, you know, watching and how they're gonna feel. So if I can always just put myself in that place and understand what the story is, I can tell any story I'm not intimidated by any time period or however big explosions or any car chases or whatever, because at the end of the day, you're telling a story and you're doing it one shot out.

The guilded age, the guilded age time Carrio.

The guilded age, the guilded age time Carrio.

You know you you.

You know you you.

I love talking to individuals like you because you know you're hard workers, and so sometimes you forget how talented you are. And and and that's what because there are certain people like you know, Michael Bay he just blows stuff up. That's just he's super rich, blowing stuff up. Okay, same thing with James Cameron, shot high tech, blowing stuff up. You know, every time you do a movie goes over a billion dollars in box office. But that's what he does. That's a specialty he does. I'm telling everybody, look at what I'm saying here, Look at the range. And when we come back, she hasn't even another project that has dropped. Look at we're gonna announce it on my show when.

I love talking to individuals like you because you know you're hard workers, and so sometimes you forget how talented you are. And and and that's what because there are certain people like you know, Michael Bay he just blows stuff up. That's just he's super rich, blowing stuff up. Okay, same thing with James Cameron, shot high tech, blowing stuff up. You know, every time you do a movie goes over a billion dollars in box office. But that's what he does. That's a specialty he does. I'm telling everybody, look at what I'm saying here, Look at the range. And when we come back, she hasn't even another project that has dropped. Look at we're gonna announce it on my show when.

We come back.

We come back.

She is another show.

She is another show.

And the person that she's doing business with has money in his name.

And the person that she's doing business with has money in his name.

Money in the night.

Money in the night.

Right back with more make it conversation about the class with the humble, humble but great.

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Christ Robuston, Please.

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Kirk Franklin is a sixteen time Grammy winning artist, songwriter, producer, concert promoter, and recently he was inducted into the Hall of Fame by Stevie Wanner's powerhouse radio station KJLH one on two point three FM. Kirk has never been one to stand still. We talked about his new podcast and why it is important to diversify.

Kirk Franklin is a sixteen time Grammy winning artist, songwriter, producer, concert promoter, and recently he was inducted into the Hall of Fame by Stevie Wanner's powerhouse radio station KJLH one on two point three FM. Kirk has never been one to stand still. We talked about his new podcast and why it is important to diversify.

I'm honored at whatever capacity to be able to do life with people, to be able to be part of people's journey for God to loan me words and music or whatever that I can borrow from Him, to just be a catalyst. That's something that I take a great level of humility and responsibility in And it was never my intent to try to do something that would be left of center.

I'm honored at whatever capacity to be able to do life with people, to be able to be part of people's journey for God to loan me words and music or whatever that I can borrow from Him, to just be a catalyst. That's something that I take a great level of humility and responsibility in And it was never my intent to try to do something that would be left of center.

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Welcome back to the Money Making Conversations Masterclass hosted by Rishan McDonald.

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Bring individuals who are just super talented, who rarely do interviews like this because they's just so busy, they're always working. And she's one of them, Miss Robinson is one of them, one of the brilliant directors. And I feel so fortunate to have her on Money Making Conversations Masterclass because she's she's in between big projects and if you have an opportunity you want to talk, you have these aspirations to act, because when you direct, you deal with actors, When you deal with producers, you.

Bring individuals who are just super talented, who rarely do interviews like this because they's just so busy, they're always working. And she's one of them, Miss Robinson is one of them, one of the brilliant directors. And I feel so fortunate to have her on Money Making Conversations Masterclass because she's she's in between big projects and if you have an opportunity you want to talk, you have these aspirations to act, because when you direct, you deal with actors, When you deal with producers, you.

Deal with writers.

Deal with writers.

Plus, she's a writer, and she has always been a dream of hers to do these things, and she's now living her dream. As we return back to this conversation with you, Miss Robinson, what is the new project that you have that just dropped and it evolved man taking over everything, not dollar, not five dollars.

Plus, she's a writer, and she has always been a dream of hers to do these things, and she's now living her dream. As we return back to this conversation with you, Miss Robinson, what is the new project that you have that just dropped and it evolved man taking over everything, not dollar, not five dollars.

Yes, I'm so excited. It's a new animation series called Lady Danger, and Lady Danger is an animation and uh, the lead is going to be Nicki minage. I'm really excited because we you know, we all know Nicky's voice. She can do all sorts of crazy things with her voice, and she has a very animated way of expressing herself, so I think that the animation is just going to be perfect for her as the lead. And you know, fifty Cent has a really like his his eye, his finger is on the pulse, you know, and his eye is on the streets and in the culture, and he knows exactly what people want. He knows what audiences want, and he's had a lot of I think that's why he's had so much success with his show. So really excited to be working with fifty and g Unit on it. And I'm excited to explore the future. You know, we're exploring year twenty seventy five and so we get to sort of go into the future and we're being really you know, everything coming out now with artificial intelligence and everything. I think everyone's eye is on the future and what it's going to look like, especially for black people. So I'm super excited about this new project. I'm one of the creators of the show, one of the executive producers, so I'll be writing the show as well as producing the show. So I'm excited about that.

Yes, I'm so excited. It's a new animation series called Lady Danger, and Lady Danger is an animation and uh, the lead is going to be Nicki minage. I'm really excited because we you know, we all know Nicky's voice. She can do all sorts of crazy things with her voice, and she has a very animated way of expressing herself, so I think that the animation is just going to be perfect for her as the lead. And you know, fifty Cent has a really like his his eye, his finger is on the pulse, you know, and his eye is on the streets and in the culture, and he knows exactly what people want. He knows what audiences want, and he's had a lot of I think that's why he's had so much success with his show. So really excited to be working with fifty and g Unit on it. And I'm excited to explore the future. You know, we're exploring year twenty seventy five and so we get to sort of go into the future and we're being really you know, everything coming out now with artificial intelligence and everything. I think everyone's eye is on the future and what it's going to look like, especially for black people. So I'm super excited about this new project. I'm one of the creators of the show, one of the executive producers, so I'll be writing the show as well as producing the show. So I'm excited about that.

Super excited. This is mss Roperson again. You know, animation animation.

Super excited. This is mss Roperson again. You know, animation animation.

Didn't blink. Didn't blink? Now, what preps you? This is all This is a question that I always ask people. What preps you to be able to do a show? An animated show? What is the difference between an animated show and a live action?

Didn't blink. Didn't blink? Now, what preps you? This is all This is a question that I always ask people. What preps you to be able to do a show? An animated show? What is the difference between an animated show and a live action?

Well, you know, it's interesting, there's there's there's not a lot of different in terms of writing. There's not a huge difference in it, except you got to know, like when people are watching animation, it's it's a bit of a heightened experience when you're dealing with an animation about a superhuman And so we just want to make sure the writing is really punchy and and really interesting, Like every every other line needs to be really kind of like ear catching or eye catching in some sort of way. So we want to make sure it's always fun and upbeat. But besides that, you know, like I said before, you know, a story is a story, and as long as you know how to tell that story and you can feel those different characters, then you know you're good. You can, you can, it'll translate to animation, it'll translate to live action, right or whatever you want it to be.

Well, you know, it's interesting, there's there's there's not a lot of different in terms of writing. There's not a huge difference in it, except you got to know, like when people are watching animation, it's it's a bit of a heightened experience when you're dealing with an animation about a superhuman And so we just want to make sure the writing is really punchy and and really interesting, Like every every other line needs to be really kind of like ear catching or eye catching in some sort of way. So we want to make sure it's always fun and upbeat. But besides that, you know, like I said before, you know, a story is a story, and as long as you know how to tell that story and you can feel those different characters, then you know you're good. You can, you can, it'll translate to animation, it'll translate to live action, right or whatever you want it to be.

Yeah, we know because I have pitched animated projects, and it's almost like you have to do extreme writing. You know, you can't talk just you know, because I guess what, somebody who's walking next year. In animation, you become a tomato, and can become a chicken, can become a human, and you have to understand you have that creative freedom to make that happen in animation, whereas when you have a person who's structured like I am, coming from a world sitcom.

Yeah, we know because I have pitched animated projects, and it's almost like you have to do extreme writing. You know, you can't talk just you know, because I guess what, somebody who's walking next year. In animation, you become a tomato, and can become a chicken, can become a human, and you have to understand you have that creative freedom to make that happen in animation, whereas when you have a person who's structured like I am, coming from a world sitcom.

It was a major leap for me to understand.

It was a major leap for me to understand.

It's fine, you can do that and guess what because you're dealing with animation, and because animation extremes allow you to tell a story sometimes a lot better than live action, correct, I believe.

It's fine, you can do that and guess what because you're dealing with animation, and because animation extremes allow you to tell a story sometimes a lot better than live action, correct, I believe.

So I've always it's been a lifelong dream of mine to work in animation. So this project has been like a dream come true for sure. And a lot of times pitching animation, the studios want to know, like, well, why is it animation? So a lot of times, like like you said, like somebody turning in to a tomato or having like an animal side kid that talks, or doing things that you would not be able to really do in live action. They want to know like why is this animation, Why can't this be just a regular show. So all those elements are important when you're writing it to know like, this is why this has to be animation, because you know we have the pillows talk to you, seeing you to sleep, or you know, whatever whatever you want to put in there.

So I've always it's been a lifelong dream of mine to work in animation. So this project has been like a dream come true for sure. And a lot of times pitching animation, the studios want to know, like, well, why is it animation? So a lot of times, like like you said, like somebody turning in to a tomato or having like an animal side kid that talks, or doing things that you would not be able to really do in live action. They want to know like why is this animation, Why can't this be just a regular show. So all those elements are important when you're writing it to know like, this is why this has to be animation, because you know we have the pillows talk to you, seeing you to sleep, or you know, whatever whatever you want to put in there.

Right, You know, it was really interesting because when you start talking, the only thing the project that really comes across is live action that kind of feels like animation.

Right, You know, it was really interesting because when you start talking, the only thing the project that really comes across is live action that kind of feels like animation.

Is the you know, Guardians of the Galaxy.

Is the you know, Guardians of the Galaxy.

You know, they have the treat you know, the little raccoon that talks the treaty.

You know, they have the treat you know, the little raccoon that talks the treaty.

With walks around and participates physically.

With walks around and participates physically.

It's almost like an animated project, but they're treating it like it's live because it's live action. And but really that's not reality. And when I look over the years, you know, when Star Wars started going to these different planets in the different world and bringing in these odd looking characters, that wasn't the sense was animation because they was stepping into a culture that wasn't real. But guess what, it is the world that I'm creating so I can get away with it. And that's what animation allows us to do. And so when you look at these different projects when they and you absolutely correct. That was one of the major questions they asked me, and I guess that's why I don't have an animated project on TV. They said, Rashaan, why is it necessary to do this project and animation?

It's almost like an animated project, but they're treating it like it's live because it's live action. And but really that's not reality. And when I look over the years, you know, when Star Wars started going to these different planets in the different world and bringing in these odd looking characters, that wasn't the sense was animation because they was stepping into a culture that wasn't real. But guess what, it is the world that I'm creating so I can get away with it. And that's what animation allows us to do. And so when you look at these different projects when they and you absolutely correct. That was one of the major questions they asked me, and I guess that's why I don't have an animated project on TV. They said, Rashaan, why is it necessary to do this project and animation?

I went because I like it. I think it'll work. And they said, we'll get back with you. Willgi back with you, because.

I went because I like it. I think it'll work. And they said, we'll get back with you. Willgi back with you, because.

You really have to say, this project of this storytelling can only be achieved by doing it this way, and that's what you're achieved.

You really have to say, this project of this storytelling can only be achieved by doing it this way, and that's what you're achieved.

Now.

Now.

How did you get Nicki Minauche involved in.

How did you get Nicki Minauche involved in.

This, Well, that was all fifty cent. You know, he has that relationship, that friendship with Nikki, and he thought, you know, he came to the table thinking like we had to pitch pitch it to him, and then when he got on board with it, he was like, you know, I think Nicki Minaj would be perfect for the lead for Lady Danger. And then we had a meeting with Nicki and we had to pitch it to her as well as she had thought, and then she she was interested, thankfully, and so and she's also you know, she's interested in the fact that, like, you know, the studio time in order for her to do to do the Lady Danger voicing. You know, she can do that from home, from a home studio, and with her being a mother and having her own label and doing all the amazing boss things she's doing. And I think it's also appealing to her because it's something that she can do, you know, from the studio in her home and she doesn't have to you know, go through hair and make upbe and traveling.

This, Well, that was all fifty cent. You know, he has that relationship, that friendship with Nikki, and he thought, you know, he came to the table thinking like we had to pitch pitch it to him, and then when he got on board with it, he was like, you know, I think Nicki Minaj would be perfect for the lead for Lady Danger. And then we had a meeting with Nicki and we had to pitch it to her as well as she had thought, and then she she was interested, thankfully, and so and she's also you know, she's interested in the fact that, like, you know, the studio time in order for her to do to do the Lady Danger voicing. You know, she can do that from home, from a home studio, and with her being a mother and having her own label and doing all the amazing boss things she's doing. And I think it's also appealing to her because it's something that she can do, you know, from the studio in her home and she doesn't have to you know, go through hair and make upbe and traveling.

You know, they will be there with that camera because you got to get the b road side of it, of them actually doing it, so you can't get too too regular.

You know, they will be there with that camera because you got to get the b road side of it, of them actually doing it, so you can't get too too regular.

Yeah, that's true. But for the most part, you know, she's able to like be there with her son and all of that. So I think that was also.

Yeah, that's true. But for the most part, you know, she's able to like be there with her son and all of that. So I think that was also.

Oh absolutely absolutely. You know, let's let just talk about fifty Cents. You know this, I got to use the word brilliant. You know, I've been knowing him, I've been knowing of of knowing, and met fifty Cents way back and when I was doing the Beat in LA with Steve Harvey and that's when I first met fifty Cents. Uh, you know, the birthday and all that something, all those all those those hits he had back then when Power came out.

Oh absolutely absolutely. You know, let's let just talk about fifty Cents. You know this, I got to use the word brilliant. You know, I've been knowing him, I've been knowing of of knowing, and met fifty Cents way back and when I was doing the Beat in LA with Steve Harvey and that's when I first met fifty Cents. Uh, you know, the birthday and all that something, all those all those those hits he had back then when Power came out.

That's Power is.

That's Power is.

A series that launched his production and television brand. And I remember when that show was announced, it was said it was a it was a show about a drug dealer who ran a nightclub, and it's being produced by fifty cents. And I immediately turned to my friends, go, that'll never make it because I just didn't see it. I just didn't see it. I didn't I didn't think the American culture was ready for that. I didn't think that America would would would would buy into that.

A series that launched his production and television brand. And I remember when that show was announced, it was said it was a it was a show about a drug dealer who ran a nightclub, and it's being produced by fifty cents. And I immediately turned to my friends, go, that'll never make it because I just didn't see it. I just didn't see it. I didn't I didn't think the American culture was ready for that. I didn't think that America would would would would buy into that.

Boy was I wrong?

Boy was I wrong?

And boy did I not miss an episode. I watched every episode because what I what he showed me was if you look at every one of his series, it's just like the Fast and Furious series, it's about family. All his series are successful because it's about family. It's just family, and it's just a different way of parenting because all if you look at the core Power, it was about a mother, a husband and wife trying to raise their kids as safely as possible, and a drug community that they built.

And boy did I not miss an episode. I watched every episode because what I what he showed me was if you look at every one of his series, it's just like the Fast and Furious series, it's about family. All his series are successful because it's about family. It's just family, and it's just a different way of parenting because all if you look at the core Power, it was about a mother, a husband and wife trying to raise their kids as safely as possible, and a drug community that they built.

Mm hmm, that's true. That's true. Yeah, yeah, And I mean I think that like that's what makes make shit so relatable. And I think that's why audiences love it because you know, it's an escape first of all, and it's really grounded, and then you can relate to it because it's still, at the end of the day, a story about family.

Mm hmm, that's true. That's true. Yeah, yeah, And I mean I think that like that's what makes make shit so relatable. And I think that's why audiences love it because you know, it's an escape first of all, and it's really grounded, and then you can relate to it because it's still, at the end of the day, a story about family.

It really is.

It really is.

Andin' I'm gonna tell you something, I have to take my head off to you because you're helping these stories being told. Because as a person who's been in this industry a long time and watching black portrayal, black creative, black content, and you know, we had no dramas. I mean, we couldn't keep a drama on the air back in the day. You know it, come on, I mean Tim Reid his drama came on and they counsel it. Oh my god, can we keep a counsel And they kept saying black people are television in the world or the television community audience will not see it and watch black drama. And so to see what is happening now and watching him lead the way and watching so many more talented people, it's merely amazing to me because of the fact that you at the center of that and a clear understanding that your talents are mushrooming this new content era for black black producers and writers and directors. How do you feel about that?

Andin' I'm gonna tell you something, I have to take my head off to you because you're helping these stories being told. Because as a person who's been in this industry a long time and watching black portrayal, black creative, black content, and you know, we had no dramas. I mean, we couldn't keep a drama on the air back in the day. You know it, come on, I mean Tim Reid his drama came on and they counsel it. Oh my god, can we keep a counsel And they kept saying black people are television in the world or the television community audience will not see it and watch black drama. And so to see what is happening now and watching him lead the way and watching so many more talented people, it's merely amazing to me because of the fact that you at the center of that and a clear understanding that your talents are mushrooming this new content era for black black producers and writers and directors. How do you feel about that?

Man?

Man?

That makes me feel amazing? You know, I mean, I'm a I'm a little girl from making Georgia. You know, I started out, I didn't know anybody in this industry, coming up like from where I was from, and it just it just makes me feel amazing that now you know, I'm one of those people who can inspire somebody else, you know, and that that means the world of me. It really does mean everything. And and it's always really heartwarming when a younger, you know, black woman comes up to me and says, you know, I see you, and I see myself in you, and I can as you're directing, I can see myself directing. And that's what it's about to me, the fact that you know, you can look at me and see yourself and you know, and and that that's what that's what makes the difference. Like when you can see yourself doing something that you couldn't see yourself doing before. That's a breakthrough just in just in that, you know, just in that realization that's sometimes that's life changing.

That makes me feel amazing? You know, I mean, I'm a I'm a little girl from making Georgia. You know, I started out, I didn't know anybody in this industry, coming up like from where I was from, and it just it just makes me feel amazing that now you know, I'm one of those people who can inspire somebody else, you know, and that that means the world of me. It really does mean everything. And and it's always really heartwarming when a younger, you know, black woman comes up to me and says, you know, I see you, and I see myself in you, and I can as you're directing, I can see myself directing. And that's what it's about to me, the fact that you know, you can look at me and see yourself and you know, and and that that's what that's what makes the difference. Like when you can see yourself doing something that you couldn't see yourself doing before. That's a breakthrough just in just in that, you know, just in that realization that's sometimes that's life changing.

Absolutely absolutely, you know, you know, I want to if I want to ask you one more question now, if you if you can stick around for one more break, because I want to talk about the rise of the female Black female directors and you're part of that because you know it's it's really brilliant what we're seeing out there, and it really exploded during the COVID, really exploded the opportunities.

Absolutely absolutely, you know, you know, I want to if I want to ask you one more question now, if you if you can stick around for one more break, because I want to talk about the rise of the female Black female directors and you're part of that because you know it's it's really brilliant what we're seeing out there, and it really exploded during the COVID, really exploded the opportunities.

And I want you to mention some of.

And I want you to mention some of.

The name if you don't mind, and how how this whole chemistry is starting to just not long do you take over this, but dominate the industry and from producing and EP and and all that stuff, and it's it's great, and just stick around. We've got one more break. I held her. She already told me she don't have a job right now, so I can keep her. She told me she hasn't run in those sets. See our jobs coming now, but right now Rashaw McDonald, guy, Miss christ Ropers from Lockdown, don't got where. We're back for more money making conversation Mastering Class. One more big question, and she's going to respond, don't go nowhere.

The name if you don't mind, and how how this whole chemistry is starting to just not long do you take over this, but dominate the industry and from producing and EP and and all that stuff, and it's it's great, and just stick around. We've got one more break. I held her. She already told me she don't have a job right now, so I can keep her. She told me she hasn't run in those sets. See our jobs coming now, but right now Rashaw McDonald, guy, Miss christ Ropers from Lockdown, don't got where. We're back for more money making conversation Mastering Class. One more big question, and she's going to respond, don't go nowhere.

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I've kept her one more break, MS Rowerson. You know, let's let's let's rehash some of her greatness, you know, because she's wants to sit around and be humble. Directed episodes of green Leaf. I'm just mentioning some of the things that, you know, if I could still be talking Greenleaf, which is on Own Network, All America, which is on CW, dire Future, President, Disney Plus American Soul, bet Long Slow, EXL Paramount, Black Mafia Family which is BMF Star, The Gilded Age, HBO, you know, Genius, which is now GEO, and now she's doing animation. Yeah, and she sits on this call y'all. Well, you know, Rashine, it's about relationships. You know, I call here, call there and people remember me, and uh, you know, it's really about that relationship. For sh It's really really what it amounts to my situation, my situation, you know, but people know I like, let me just tell you something. When you're talking to somebody humble like this Roberson, she said, you know, I really went over to do Genius.

I've kept her one more break, MS Rowerson. You know, let's let's let's rehash some of her greatness, you know, because she's wants to sit around and be humble. Directed episodes of green Leaf. I'm just mentioning some of the things that, you know, if I could still be talking Greenleaf, which is on Own Network, All America, which is on CW, dire Future, President, Disney Plus American Soul, bet Long Slow, EXL Paramount, Black Mafia Family which is BMF Star, The Gilded Age, HBO, you know, Genius, which is now GEO, and now she's doing animation. Yeah, and she sits on this call y'all. Well, you know, Rashine, it's about relationships. You know, I call here, call there and people remember me, and uh, you know, it's really about that relationship. For sh It's really really what it amounts to my situation, my situation, you know, but people know I like, let me just tell you something. When you're talking to somebody humble like this Roberson, she said, you know, I really went over to do Genius.

I just really wanted to do one episode. Then he told me.

I just really wanted to do one episode. Then he told me.

Four, and then he told me four because I was a producing director.

Four, and then he told me four because I was a producing director.

Yes, yes, I remember everything.

Yes, yes, I remember everything.

People say to me.

People say to me.

They said, ra Sean, you remember everything because I like to remind people in the world we live in. I've been in Hollywood as a writer since ninety two. The Roberson's of the world did not exist, not like they're but existing, and now they existing now today as producers, as contributors, as independent thought bringers that are not pigeonhole and duct tape to say this is what you're supposed to do. Her resume of work is tremendous. But she's not alone. Talk to us about why is there a tremendous rise in African American female directors and what impact are you guys making on the industry.

They said, ra Sean, you remember everything because I like to remind people in the world we live in. I've been in Hollywood as a writer since ninety two. The Roberson's of the world did not exist, not like they're but existing, and now they existing now today as producers, as contributors, as independent thought bringers that are not pigeonhole and duct tape to say this is what you're supposed to do. Her resume of work is tremendous. But she's not alone. Talk to us about why is there a tremendous rise in African American female directors and what impact are you guys making on the industry.

Well, yeah, I mean, listen, I'm so fortunate to be able to come up in this like new renaissance of black women directors. And one person that I gotta gotta give a lot of credit to is Ava DuVernay.

Well, yeah, I mean, listen, I'm so fortunate to be able to come up in this like new renaissance of black women directors. And one person that I gotta gotta give a lot of credit to is Ava DuVernay.

Like Ava Amen, Oh.

Like Ava Amen, Oh.

My goodness, Ava single handedly made a big, big difference in uh for for female black women directors. She just women directors in general. When she started doing Queen Sugar on own and she only hired women directors for the show. That made a big difference because suddenly, because that got the attention of a lot of other shows that got the attention of studios and networks, and suddenly people you know, were looking out for women directors. And then things started to change in Hollywood where you know, people started to notice, well, out of the last one hundred directors that you've hired, only two of them have been black women, and why is that? And then people began to be to question it and bring it out into the air and expose it. And so I think that you know, that happening allowed people like me and a lot of my sisters now directing. It allowed us all to be seen finally and to come through through and then they gave us a shot and it was like, oh, these women know what they're doing. They're doing great. And so I think people like Ava, people like Easter Ray, you know, those really amazing powerful black women who went to the forefront and really showed people like, Hey, we know what we're doing and we do a great job, and we're also going to reach back and bring our other sisters up here to do it too. That was a really major turning point in the industry. I think that happened about about six years ago.

My goodness, Ava single handedly made a big, big difference in uh for for female black women directors. She just women directors in general. When she started doing Queen Sugar on own and she only hired women directors for the show. That made a big difference because suddenly, because that got the attention of a lot of other shows that got the attention of studios and networks, and suddenly people you know, were looking out for women directors. And then things started to change in Hollywood where you know, people started to notice, well, out of the last one hundred directors that you've hired, only two of them have been black women, and why is that? And then people began to be to question it and bring it out into the air and expose it. And so I think that you know, that happening allowed people like me and a lot of my sisters now directing. It allowed us all to be seen finally and to come through through and then they gave us a shot and it was like, oh, these women know what they're doing. They're doing great. And so I think people like Ava, people like Easter Ray, you know, those really amazing powerful black women who went to the forefront and really showed people like, Hey, we know what we're doing and we do a great job, and we're also going to reach back and bring our other sisters up here to do it too. That was a really major turning point in the industry. I think that happened about about six years ago.

Absolutely, it was I know that because of the fact that you know, at one point blacks only participating.

Absolutely, it was I know that because of the fact that you know, at one point blacks only participating.

Really, I'm just being honest when I talk.

Really, I'm just being honest when I talk.

On these shows because you're in the industry reality shows, Oh we were were We were killing it in reality shows, fighting and throwing glasses and jumping over the table and diving. That's where they was betraying Black women on TV. Y'all were killing it in reality Okay, there was no there was no culture tied to black women. It's all about screaming, fussing, fighting over man and throwing glasses and climbing over the tables and beating each other up. That was the portrayal of black women in the media, especially on television, in the reality world. And then behind the camera, you guys started changing the narrative and it took a powerful courageous I'm gonna tell you the word courageous because I'm gona tell you something. What Ava Dubne did. It was a lot of people questioning her, and I mean, I've been there. I have been there. When you start making decisions and you know people are questioning it and you it'll creep into your life. You have to got have strong faith, You got to have strong relationships, and you have to be more importantly confident that you're making the right decision and you've chosen the right person to lead you out of that darkness into the light. Because that's all she was doing. And I you know, and it show the level of work that she does. But she she knows, she you know, it's like it's like, you know, Michael Jordan know he gives you know, he got six championships to do that, but you know, he also knew he had to pass the ball off to Pippin. You know, Steve Kerr, you know he had to pass the ball cart right, he had passed the ball off to people and otherwise you can't win. So what Ava du Vine is doing in this industry or have done in this industry, she's passed the ball off. And yes, y'all made the.

On these shows because you're in the industry reality shows, Oh we were were We were killing it in reality shows, fighting and throwing glasses and jumping over the table and diving. That's where they was betraying Black women on TV. Y'all were killing it in reality Okay, there was no there was no culture tied to black women. It's all about screaming, fussing, fighting over man and throwing glasses and climbing over the tables and beating each other up. That was the portrayal of black women in the media, especially on television, in the reality world. And then behind the camera, you guys started changing the narrative and it took a powerful courageous I'm gonna tell you the word courageous because I'm gona tell you something. What Ava Dubne did. It was a lot of people questioning her, and I mean, I've been there. I have been there. When you start making decisions and you know people are questioning it and you it'll creep into your life. You have to got have strong faith, You got to have strong relationships, and you have to be more importantly confident that you're making the right decision and you've chosen the right person to lead you out of that darkness into the light. Because that's all she was doing. And I you know, and it show the level of work that she does. But she she knows, she you know, it's like it's like, you know, Michael Jordan know he gives you know, he got six championships to do that, but you know, he also knew he had to pass the ball off to Pippin. You know, Steve Kerr, you know he had to pass the ball cart right, he had passed the ball off to people and otherwise you can't win. So what Ava du Vine is doing in this industry or have done in this industry, she's passed the ball off. And yes, y'all made the.

Shots, Yes exactly. That's what you gotta do. You gotta make it. You know, you gotta make the shot. If they pass your ball, you gotta make the shot. That's your one shot.

Shots, Yes exactly. That's what you gotta do. You gotta make it. You know, you gotta make the shot. If they pass your ball, you gotta make the shot. That's your one shot.

Well, you know, you know, you know the great thing about my show is that that I love and I'm to appreciate it. I'm allowed to do it every week and bring people like you on my show because the word master class is attached to it. And when I say master class, you are you epitomizes that term because of the fact that you know, corn, you're somebody, you were born in Germany, you know, raised in making. Because if anybody can't hear that Southern accent, because she she's not losing that that that country girl.

Well, you know, you know, you know the great thing about my show is that that I love and I'm to appreciate it. I'm allowed to do it every week and bring people like you on my show because the word master class is attached to it. And when I say master class, you are you epitomizes that term because of the fact that you know, corn, you're somebody, you were born in Germany, you know, raised in making. Because if anybody can't hear that Southern accent, because she she's not losing that that that country girl.

Is tied up.

Is tied up.

It's tied up all up in you.

It's tied up all up in you.

And and and then but the enthusiasm of the fact that I just you know, I said one more question, but I got to ask you this next question.

And and and then but the enthusiasm of the fact that I just you know, I said one more question, but I got to ask you this next question.

There are always.

There are always.

Doubters in individual paths to success. How did you move past those people? You know, when they used the word luck or they use the word right place at the right time, or girl, don't get too excited about that.

Doubters in individual paths to success. How did you move past those people? You know, when they used the word luck or they use the word right place at the right time, or girl, don't get too excited about that.

How did you get past that?

How did you get past that?

My father told me once, he said, he said, people are gonna doubt you, and he said, you're gonna doubt yourself, but as long as you don't listen to it and move on, you'll be fine. And in those moments, I remember what my father said, and I had doubts myself and other people had doubts. I had somebody tell me in college, you know, you need to be realistic. When I said, I want to be a film you need to be realistic, and I was like, I am being realistic, you know, And but you just can't listen to it. You have to you have to know that the doubt is gonna happen, because you don't need to be thrown off by it. Okay, it's gonna happen. You're signing up to do one of the hardest things in the world, like you're as a as a as a black woman director. I know I signed up to do something that one percent of the whole world could could only do. So I know that it's gonna be hard. I know people are gonna doubt. I know that's gonna happen, and I just say, Okay, that happens. It's like feeling to burn when you're working out. Some it starts to burn. But you know that's gonna happen. You want it, you know, it's like that's a part of the whole process. But you gotta you gotta do it anyway. You just got to do it anyway. And you know you got to sign up. You signed up for something hard to do, and you just got to make it happen. Wow, you know, And that's what that's what makes it. It's not easy. You know, if it were easy, everybody would be doing it right.

My father told me once, he said, he said, people are gonna doubt you, and he said, you're gonna doubt yourself, but as long as you don't listen to it and move on, you'll be fine. And in those moments, I remember what my father said, and I had doubts myself and other people had doubts. I had somebody tell me in college, you know, you need to be realistic. When I said, I want to be a film you need to be realistic, and I was like, I am being realistic, you know, And but you just can't listen to it. You have to you have to know that the doubt is gonna happen, because you don't need to be thrown off by it. Okay, it's gonna happen. You're signing up to do one of the hardest things in the world, like you're as a as a as a black woman director. I know I signed up to do something that one percent of the whole world could could only do. So I know that it's gonna be hard. I know people are gonna doubt. I know that's gonna happen, and I just say, Okay, that happens. It's like feeling to burn when you're working out. Some it starts to burn. But you know that's gonna happen. You want it, you know, it's like that's a part of the whole process. But you gotta you gotta do it anyway. You just got to do it anyway. And you know you got to sign up. You signed up for something hard to do, and you just got to make it happen. Wow, you know, And that's what that's what makes it. It's not easy. You know, if it were easy, everybody would be doing it right.

If you listen to that person said be realistic. Be realistic. Yeah, get married, get a job, and just stand in line. That's where you're supposed to be, just standing in line. Let your dreams just become nightmares, because that's what will become if you don't live your dreams.

If you listen to that person said be realistic. Be realistic. Yeah, get married, get a job, and just stand in line. That's where you're supposed to be, just standing in line. Let your dreams just become nightmares, because that's what will become if you don't live your dreams.

But I wanted to thank you for coming on my show.

But I wanted to thank you for coming on my show.

You.

You.

I know it's been a lot.

I know it's been a lot.

It's been a journey to get you on this show, and it's been a blessing to hear your conversation.

It's been a journey to get you on this show, and it's been a blessing to hear your conversation.

How can we get in touch with you via social Do you have a website?

How can we get in touch with you via social Do you have a website?

Can you tell them an audience, Yes, I am cc Roberson that stands for Crystal Clear Roberson and on Instagram, i am c. C. Roberson Creates and then my website is cc Roberson. And be looking out because I'm about to start c see our story House, which is going to be a really great resource for up and coming filmmakers. I'm going to start giving grants for short films and a lot of really great creative advice. So just stick with me and stay tuned in and you'll start seeing.

Can you tell them an audience, Yes, I am cc Roberson that stands for Crystal Clear Roberson and on Instagram, i am c. C. Roberson Creates and then my website is cc Roberson. And be looking out because I'm about to start c see our story House, which is going to be a really great resource for up and coming filmmakers. I'm going to start giving grants for short films and a lot of really great creative advice. So just stick with me and stay tuned in and you'll start seeing.

That when you start. Now that's a program you're about to start or has it started? I'm about Okay, cool, come back on the show so we can let my people know. Okay, come on, Georgie girl, come on back down here and talk to us. Okay, right, come on, talk to us again. Thank you for taking the time to come on my show. An extended interview with the running on it, Miss Crystal Robinson.