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Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Lavar Thomas.

Motivational speaker, author, Peace Corps alumnus, leadership coach, and founder of Empower for Greatness. Lavar’s mission is to help people transform “from the inside out” so they can live with greater intention and purpose.

The conversation explores Lavar’s upbringing in Brownsville, Brooklyn; his life-changing Peace Corps service in Rwanda; his understanding of faith, purpose, failure, and leadership; and how he built international development programs such as Leaders of the Free World, which exposes young Black men to global travel and leadership experiences.

He discusses how stepping outside his comfort zone—from traveling abroad for the first time to navigating Rwanda after only knowing it through “Hotel Rwanda”—opened his worldview, deepened his empathy, and developed his leadership style.

Lavar explains how a major project failure in the Peace Corps forced him to redefine success beyond titles, money, or recognition. This experience ultimately inspired his book, The Other Side of Letting Go. He also shares how he balances a federal government job with building his speaking and training company.

The interview concludes with a powerful discussion on purpose, reinvention, leadership, and the role travel plays in expanding one’s mindset—especially for communities that are historically underrepresented in global spaces.

PURPOSE OF THE INTERVIEW 1. To highlight Lavar’s transformative journey from Brooklyn to global leadership.

Rushion showcases how Lavar’s experiences shaped his philosophy and mission.

2. To educate listeners about purpose‑driven living and leadership

Lavar explains why purpose—not money—is the “real currency,” and how aligning with purpose drives impact.

3. To inspire people to step beyond their comfort zones

The interview emphasizes how discomfort and uncertainty can spark growth.

4. To reveal the value of international exposure for Black men

Through Leaders of the Free World, Lavar advocates for global experiences that shift identity and opportunity.

5. To discuss resilience, reinvention, and personal development

From project failures to the death of his father, Lavar shows how adversity can reshape purpose and leadership.

KEY TAKEAWAYS 1. Faith requires action

Lavar describes faith as taking steps without knowing the outcome—“believing in the future before it becomes reality.”

2. Growth happens outside the comfort zone

Comfort zones feel safe, but they also create limits; stepping beyond them leads to self‑awareness and transformation.

3. The Peace Corps experience was life‑changing

Rwanda taught him service, humility, language, cultural understanding, and the power of community trust.

4. Failure can be an important redirection

When his library project collapsed, Lavar learned to detach from ego and redefine success through impact, not image.

5. Purpose is the real currency

Operating in purpose helps you add value, understand your worth, and ultimately generate income more meaningfully.

6. Leadership includes being willing to pivot

He shifted from a failed library project to impactful malnutrition programs, partnering with USAID to train families.

7. Personal setbacks can sharpen identity and mission

His father’s death led him to pause graduate school, attend therapy, and rebuild himself—learning leadership through vulnerability.

8. Global exposure changes lives

Leaders of the Free World gives young Black men access to international travel, allowing them to reimagine their potential.

NOTABLE QUOTES On faith

• “Faith is taking steps without even knowing the outcome… believing in the future I see in my mind before I see it in reality.”

On stepping outside comfort zones

• “Every time I step beyond that line, I grew… I realized new possibilities for myself.”

On failure

• “Failure is life redirecting you.” (Recalling Oprah’s teaching).

On purpose

• “Purpose is the real currency.”

On redefining success

• “I had to learn how to redefine success for myself—not in the glamor of a project, but the impact I was having.”

On reinvention after loss

• “I had to step away and rebuild LaVar… focusing on my family taught me so much about leadership.”

On travel and identity

• “Something shifts in them when they return. They see their lives differently and their community differently.”

#STRAW #BEST #SHMS