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Benjamin Crump, Esq. joined the show today to not only talk about the amazing work that he's been celebrated for as an outstanding civil rights attorney, but he talks about our upcoming TV One series “Evidence of Innocence,” and other money making creative projects that helps compliment his brand.Money Making Conversations is a weekly podcast hosted by Emmy Award winning TV producer and the Architect who developed the Steve Harvey Global Media Brand, Rushion McDonald. The show features one-on-one career advice to callers, contributions from corporate leaders, successful entrepreneurs, celebrity interviews regarding their business ventures, social media branding, financial planning and information to empower small businesses to a path of success!“The Kind of Talk that Inspires Change.”https://www.rushionmcdonald.com/https://www.facebook.com/rushionmcdonald/https://twitter.com/RushionMcDonaldhttps://www.instagram.com/rushionmcdonald/https://www.linkedin.com/in/rushionmcdonald Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

Hi, this is Rushion McDonald. Welcome to the podcast world of Money Making Conversations Master Class. I interview profits and nonprofits to learn their "Secrets to Success."  I'm a former IBM Executive with a degree in Mathematics. I started my entrepreneurial career as a stand-up comic, then became a sitcom writer, award-winning baker, social media influencer, award-winning television Executive Producer, and brand architect for super-successful celebrities and products. Money Making Conversations Master Class interviews a diverse group of celebrities, entrepreneurs, and influencers in the financial and business community with their advice and tips so you can be successful, too. It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and start building your own. People always talk about their purpose or gifts. If you have a gift, Lead with your Gift, and don't let your friends, family, or co-workers stop you from planning or living your dream. Keep Winning!

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Hi, this is Rushion McDonald. Welcome to the podcast world of Money Making Conversations Master Class. I interview profits and nonprofits to learn their "Secrets to Success."  I'm a former IBM Executive with a degree in Mathematics. I started my entrepreneurial career as a stand-up comic, then became a sitcom writer, award-winning baker, social media influencer, award-winning television Executive Producer, and brand architect for super-successful celebrities and products. Money Making Conversations Master Class interviews a diverse group of celebrities, entrepreneurs, and influencers in the financial and business community with their advice and tips so you can be successful, too. It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and start building your own. People always talk about their purpose or gifts. If you have a gift, Lead with your Gift, and don't let your friends, family, or co-workers stop you from planning or living your dream. Keep Winning!
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Steve Harvey brings his unmatched charisma and wisdom to mornings across the country, mixing comedy, culture, and connection like no one else. Whether you need a laugh, a lift, or a little perspective, The Steve Harvey Morning Show delivers it all.
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Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning!

Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Jasmine Hood

Founder of Better Bodies Massage in Atlanta (originally from Greenville, South Carolina), joined Rushion McDonald on Money Making Conversations Masterclass to share her journey from CNA to licensed massage therapist, the realities of being a traveling service provider, and the wellness benefits of massage therapy.

She discusses body alignment, stress, trauma release, the differences between massage modalities, alternative treatments like cupping, entrepreneurship during COVID‑19, safety considerations for mobile therapists, corporate/wellness partnerships, and her long‑term goal of building a scalable massage brand supported by contractors.

🎯 Purpose of the Interview

The interview aims to:
Highlight how massage therapy supports physical and emotional wellness, including stress, posture, and pain relief.
Educate listeners on the types of massages, proper stretching techniques, and how body tension accumulates.
Explore entrepreneurship in the wellness space, including launching a business during COVID‑19.
Discuss safety and professionalism in mobile massage therapy.
Show how Jasmine is building a sustainable small business through networking, corporate events, and contractor partnerships.

🔑 Key Takeaways 1. Career Shift & Fearless Beginnings
Jasmine switched from working as a CNA to moving to Atlanta alone with no support system—motivated by a desire for change and inspired by her mother’s independence.
She emphasized overcoming fear and taking leaps even when circumstances are uncertain.

2. Massage Therapy Is Both Physical & Emotional Healing
Massage releases tension, trauma, and stress stored in the body, especially in the neck, shoulders, and lower back.
Many people carry pain from work, daily habits, or emotional strain—and massage helps restore balance.

3. The Three Most Popular Massage Types

Jasmine explained the differences clearly:
Swedish Massage — Gentle, relaxing, ideal for beginners and stress relief.
Deep Tissue — Targets chronic pain and trigger points but may be intense for clients who are not accustomed to it.
Sports Massage — Faster movements, stretching, and ideal for athletes.

She stressed that deep tissue should not be rushed—the muscle needs warming before intense pressure.

4. Stretching Is Critical—Most People Do It Wrong
Stretching should be held 30 seconds to 1 minute, not quick movements or rolling the neck.
Consistent stretching prevents the “tight forward lean” posture many people develop.
Lower‑body stretches (glutes, hamstrings, hips) dramatically improve back pain.

5. Travel Massage: Safety, Boundaries & Professionalism
Jasmine screens new clients by phone before accepting appointments.
She immediately declines inappropriate requests (e.g., sexualized services).
She only sees first‑time clients during daylight and shares her location with trusted contacts.
She maintains a clear, therapeutic-only brand despite public misconceptions.

6. Entrepreneurship Journey & Business Model
She built her business during COVID‑19, initially offering lower prices, then raising them as her brand grew.
Corporate wellness events and golf tournaments became a major revenue stream.
She hires contractors to scale for events.
Her long‑term goal is “mailbox money”—a business run by a team while she steps away from hands-on work.

7. Alternative Treatment: Cupping Therapy
Cupping uses suction to pull stagnant blood, loosen muscle tissue, and improve circulation.
Cups can remain stationary or be moved along the back to flush tension.

8. The Jasmine Experience
Sessions are designed around clients’ comfort, in their own homes, with their preferred music and ambiance.
Post‑massage, clients can immediately rest—no stress of getting dressed or driving home.

🗣️ Notable Quotes ✔ On taking risks

“I just jumped up and moved. I didn’t know anyone… I just said I’m going to start over.”



✔ On stress in the body

“We all carry trauma. When you’re stressed, it all ends up in your body.”



✔ On deep tissue massage

“If it gets to be too much, let me know. Don’t be afraid to speak up.”



✔ On stretching

“If you don’t use it, you’re going to lose it.”



✔ On business growth

“Some days are easy and some days are like… alright, don’t know. But you keep going.”



✔ On long‑term goals

“I don’t plan on being hands-on forever. The goal is to build my brand and have a team I can send out—like Amazon.”



#SHMS #STRAW #BEST #AMI

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Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed&nbsp;Jasmine Hood
Founder of Better Bodies Massage in Atlanta (originally from Greenville, South Carolina), joined Rushion McDonald on Money Making Conversations Masterclass to share her journey from CNA to licensed massage therapist, the realities of being a traveling service provider, and the wellness benefits of massage therapy.
She discusses body alignment, stress, trauma release, the differences between massage modalities, alternative treatments like cupping, entrepreneurship during COVID‑19, safety considerations for mobile therapists, corporate/wellness partnerships, and her long‑term goal of building a scalable massage brand supported by contractors.
<hr>
🎯 Purpose of the Interview
The interview aims to:
<ul>
<li>Highlight how massage therapy supports physical and emotional wellness, including stress, posture, and pain relief.</li>
<li>Educate listeners on the types of massages, proper stretching techniques, and how body tension accumulates.</li>
<li>Explore entrepreneurship in the wellness space, including launching a business during COVID‑19.</li>
<li>Discuss safety and professionalism in mobile massage therapy.</li>
<li>Show how Jasmine is building a sustainable small business through networking, corporate events, and contractor partnerships.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
🔑 Key Takeaways 1. Career Shift &amp; Fearless Beginnings
<ul>
<li>Jasmine switched from working as a CNA to moving to Atlanta alone with no support system&mdash;motivated by a desire for change and inspired by her mother&rsquo;s independence.</li>
<li>She emphasized overcoming fear and taking leaps even when circumstances are uncertain.</li>
</ul>
2. Massage Therapy Is Both Physical &amp; Emotional Healing
<ul>
<li>Massage releases tension, trauma, and stress stored in the body, especially in the neck, shoulders, and lower back.</li>
<li>Many people carry pain from work, daily habits, or emotional strain&mdash;and massage helps restore balance.</li>
</ul>
3. The Three Most Popular Massage Types
Jasmine explained the differences clearly:
<ul>
<li>Swedish Massage &mdash; Gentle, relaxing, ideal for beginners and stress relief.</li>
<li>Deep Tissue &mdash; Targets chronic pain and trigger points but may be intense for clients who are not accustomed to it.</li>
<li>Sports Massage &mdash; Faster movements, stretching, and ideal for athletes.</li>
</ul>
She stressed that deep tissue should not be rushed&mdash;the muscle needs warming before intense pressure.
4. Stretching Is Critical&mdash;Most People Do It Wrong
<ul>
<li>Stretching should be held 30 seconds to 1 minute, not quick movements or rolling the neck.</li>
<li>Consistent stretching prevents the &ldquo;tight forward lean&rdquo; posture many people develop.</li>
<li>Lower‑body stretches (glutes, hamstrings, hips) dramatically improve back pain.</li>
</ul>
5. Travel Massage: Safety, Boundaries &amp; Professionalism
<ul>
<li>Jasmine screens new clients by phone before accepting appointments.</li>
<li>She immediately declines inappropriate requests (e.g., sexualized services).</li>
<li>She only sees first‑time clients during daylight and shares her location with trusted contacts.</li>
<li>She maintains a clear, therapeutic-only brand despite public misconceptions.</li>
</ul>
6. Entrepreneurship Journey &amp; Business Model
<ul>
<li>She built her business during COVID‑19, initially offering lower prices, then raising them as her brand grew.</li>
<li>Corporate wellness events and golf tournaments became a major revenue stream.</li>
<li>She hires contractors to scale for events.</li>
<li>Her long‑term goal is &ldquo;mailbox money&rdquo;&mdash;a business run by a team while she steps away from hands-on work.</li>
</ul>
7. Alternative Treatment: Cupping Therapy
<ul>
<li>Cupping uses suction to pull stagnant blood, loosen muscle tissue, and improve circulation.</li>
<li>Cups can remain stationary or be moved along the back to flush tension.</li>
</ul>
8. The Jasmine Experience
<ul>
<li>Sessions are designed around clients&rsquo; comfort, in their own homes, with their preferred music and ambiance.</li>
<li>Post‑massage, clients can immediately rest&mdash;no stress of getting dressed or driving home.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
🗣️ Notable Quotes ✔ On taking risks
<blockquote>
&ldquo;I just jumped up and moved. I didn&rsquo;t know anyone&hellip; I just said I&rsquo;m going to start over.&rdquo; 
</blockquote>
✔ On stress in the body
<blockquote>
&ldquo;We all carry trauma. When you&rsquo;re stressed, it all ends up in your body.&rdquo; 
</blockquote>
✔ On deep tissue massage
<blockquote>
&ldquo;If it gets to be too much, let me know. Don&rsquo;t be afraid to speak up.&rdquo; 
</blockquote>
✔ On stretching
<blockquote>
&ldquo;If you don&rsquo;t use it, you&rsquo;re going to lose it.&rdquo; 
</blockquote>
✔ On business growth
<blockquote>
&ldquo;Some days are easy and some days are like&hellip; alright, don&rsquo;t know. But you keep going.&rdquo; 
</blockquote>
✔ On long‑term goals
<blockquote>
&ldquo;I don&rsquo;t plan on being hands-on forever. The goal is to build my brand and have a team I can send out&mdash;like Amazon.&rdquo; 
</blockquote>
<hr>
#SHMS #STRAW #BEST #AMI

Health Tips: She highlights how massage therapy supports physical and emotional wellness, including stress, posture, and pain relief.

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Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning!

Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Dr. Cameka Smith.

Founder of The BOSS Network, from Money Making Conversations Masterclass:

Purpose of the Interview

The interview aimed to:
Highlight The BOSS Network’s mission to empower women of color through entrepreneurship, career development, and community support.
Share Dr. Smith’s personal journey from layoff to leadership, inspiring others to embrace entrepreneurship.
Discuss strategies for business success, funding opportunities, and mentorship for Black female founders.

Key Takeaways


Origin of The BOSS Network
Founded in 2009 during the recession after Dr. Smith was laid off from Chicago Public Schools.
Initially started as local events in Chicago; now a digital community reaching 200,000 women nationwide.
Mission: Bringing Out Successful Sisters (BOSS)—promoting small business spirit and career growth.


Impact & Achievements
Invested in 100 Black female founders through grants.
Trained 50,000 women on business strategies.
Coached 10,000 women on starting businesses.
Created Boss Business University, offering mentorship and digital programs.


Pivot During COVID
Shifted from 35% event-based revenue to 75% digital.
Launched Boss Impact Fund and Invest in Progress Grant:

$10,000 grants + 4-year scholarships for recipients.
Combined funding, mentorship, and marketing support for sustainability.


Challenges & Mindset
Entrepreneurship requires planning, resilience, and community support.
Dr. Smith saved money before leaving her job and leveraged relationships for growth.
Quote: “Entrepreneurs will work 80 hours for themselves but don’t want to work 40 hours for someone else.”


Top 3 Mistakes Entrepreneurs Make
Lack of research: Understand your industry, competitors, and market.
No revenue model: If you’re not making money, it’s a hobby, not a business.
Ignoring relationships: Networking and partnerships are key to success.


Unique Marketing & Partnerships
Dr. Smith built direct relationships with brands, bypassing agencies that offered “pennies on the dollar.”
Created a dual revenue model: B2B (corporate partnerships) + B2C (community engagement).


Core Philosophy
Motto: Believe, Plan, Win.
Quote: “Those that show up, go up.”
Success is rooted in faith, persistence, and leveraging community.

Notable Quotes
“I was born to be an entrepreneur. My mother told me, until you become your own boss, you have to follow the rules.”
“Less than 1% of Black women get VC funding—so we created our own fund.”
“Relationships are your key to success. When social media goes away, your audience remains.”
“If you have a business and you don’t have money, you’ve got a hobby.”
“God will not birth anything inside of you that He will not give you the tools to deliver.”

#SHMS #STRAW #BEST

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Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Dr. Cameka Smith.
Founder of The BOSS Network, from Money Making Conversations Masterclass:
<hr>
Purpose of the Interview
The interview aimed to:
<ul>
<li>Highlight The BOSS Network&rsquo;s mission to empower women of color through entrepreneurship, career development, and community support.</li>
<li>Share Dr. Smith&rsquo;s personal journey from layoff to leadership, inspiring others to embrace entrepreneurship.</li>
<li>Discuss strategies for business success, funding opportunities, and mentorship for Black female founders.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
Key Takeaways
<ol>
<li>
Origin of The BOSS Network
<ul>
<li>Founded in 2009 during the recession after Dr. Smith was laid off from Chicago Public Schools.</li>
<li>Initially started as local events in Chicago; now a digital community reaching 200,000 women nationwide.</li>
<li>Mission: Bringing Out Successful Sisters (BOSS)&mdash;promoting small business spirit and career growth.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
Impact &amp; Achievements
<ul>
<li>Invested in 100 Black female founders through grants.</li>
<li>Trained 50,000 women on business strategies.</li>
<li>Coached 10,000 women on starting businesses.</li>
<li>Created Boss Business University, offering mentorship and digital programs.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
Pivot During COVID
<ul>
<li>Shifted from 35% event-based revenue to 75% digital.</li>
<li>Launched Boss Impact Fund and Invest in Progress Grant:
<ul>
<li>$10,000 grants + 4-year scholarships for recipients.</li>
<li>Combined funding, mentorship, and marketing support for sustainability.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
Challenges &amp; Mindset
<ul>
<li>Entrepreneurship requires planning, resilience, and community support.</li>
<li>Dr. Smith saved money before leaving her job and leveraged relationships for growth.</li>
<li>Quote: &ldquo;Entrepreneurs will work 80 hours for themselves but don&rsquo;t want to work 40 hours for someone else.&rdquo;</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
Top 3 Mistakes Entrepreneurs Make
<ul>
<li>Lack of research: Understand your industry, competitors, and market.</li>
<li>No revenue model: If you&rsquo;re not making money, it&rsquo;s a hobby, not a business.</li>
<li>Ignoring relationships: Networking and partnerships are key to success.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
Unique Marketing &amp; Partnerships
<ul>
<li>Dr. Smith built direct relationships with brands, bypassing agencies that offered &ldquo;pennies on the dollar.&rdquo;</li>
<li>Created a dual revenue model: B2B (corporate partnerships) + B2C (community engagement).</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
Core Philosophy
<ul>
<li>Motto: Believe, Plan, Win.</li>
<li>Quote: &ldquo;Those that show up, go up.&rdquo;</li>
<li>Success is rooted in faith, persistence, and leveraging community.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ol>
<hr>
Notable Quotes
<ul>
<li>&ldquo;I was born to be an entrepreneur. My mother told me, until you become your own boss, you have to follow the rules.&rdquo;</li>
<li>&ldquo;Less than 1% of Black women get VC funding&mdash;so we created our own fund.&rdquo;</li>
<li>&ldquo;Relationships are your key to success. When social media goes away, your audience remains.&rdquo;</li>
<li>&ldquo;If you have a business and you don&rsquo;t have money, you&rsquo;ve got a hobby.&rdquo;</li>
<li>&ldquo;God will not birth anything inside of you that He will not give you the tools to deliver.&rdquo;</li>
</ul>
<hr>
#SHMS #STRAW #BEST

Brand Building: The BOSS Network’s mission to empower women of color through entrepreneurship, career development, and community support.

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Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning!

Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Ashley Joi Boyd.

Interview Purpose

The purpose of this interview is to explore the intersection of creativity, financial literacy, ownership, and personal resilience, using Ashley Joi Boyd’s journey as a Grammy‑nominated songwriter, music publisher, real estate developer, and author as a powerful case study.

Through honest conversation, Ashley reframes success in the entertainment industry beyond fame and hits, emphasizing business ownership, financial education, mindset, and long‑term wealth building. The interview also serves as an empowerment message—particularly for women—demonstrating that financial setbacks, including bankruptcy, can become turning points rather than permanent barriers.

Major Themes & Key Takeaways 1. Songwriting Is the Heart—and the Business—of Music

Ashley explains that songwriting is not just creativity; it is the foundation of lasting success in the music industry. While artists may earn from performances, writers and publishers earn from ownership, collecting royalties every time a song is played, streamed, or used globally.

Key takeaway: Creativity generates income, but ownership generates wealth.

2. Publishing Is Where the Real Money Lives

Ashley highlights that music publishing—not performing—is the most lucrative side of the industry. By owning her publishing company, she positioned herself to earn long‑term, recurring income rather than relying on one‑time payments or constant touring.

Key takeaway: Understanding back‑end revenue streams is critical in any industry.

3. Business Knowledge Creates Leverage

Raised in an entertainment household, Ashley learned early the importance of understanding contracts, rights, and percentages. She famously walked away from a publishing deal that demanded 75% ownership—choosing long‑term control over short‑term opportunity.

Key takeaway: Walking away from the wrong deal can be the right decision.

4. Opportunity Meets Preparation

Ashley’s collaboration on Justin Bieber’s hit “Yummy” did not happen overnight. It was the result of years of preparation, proven skill, respect for her craft, and being ready when the door opened.

Key takeaway: Access opens doors, but preparation determines what happens next.

5. Financial Collapse Can Become Financial Education

Ashley openly discusses filing for bankruptcy after the 2008 housing crash—a moment she describes as devastating but transformative. With no guidance at the time, she was forced to learn money management the hard way, reshaping her relationship with credit, debt, and planning.

Key takeaway: Bankruptcy is not the end—it can be the beginning of financial mastery.

6. Financial Literacy Is Often Untaught—but Essential

Ashley stresses that many people, especially women, are never taught how to manage money, credit, or wealth. This gap inspired her book Financially Fly: Mastering Money and Wealth for Women, written to create a safe, honest space for financial conversations.

Key takeaway: Making money is not the same as knowing how to keep or grow it.

7. Wealth Is About Structure, Not Just Cash

In defining generational wealth, Ashley emphasizes trusts, insurance policies, estate planning, and real estate—structures that protect families long after income stops.

Key takeaway: Generational wealth is built with systems, not just income.

8. Invest in Yourself First

One of Ashley’s most practical strategies is prioritizing yourself as a financial line item—saving consistently, protecting your credit, and building habits that support future freedom.

Key takeaway: If you don’t prioritize yourself financially, no one else will.

9. Mindset Drives Money Patterns

Ashley underscores that many financial struggles are rooted in scarcity mindset and emotional spending. Shifting to an abundance mindset and facing numbers honestly is the first step toward change.

Key takeaway: Your mindset controls your financial outcomes.

Notable Quotes

“Songwriting is the heart and soul of a song—it’s what makes it last.”

“The real money in music is on the back end.”

“I walked away from a deal because the business wasn’t right—and that changed everything.”

“Bankruptcy forced me to learn how to protect myself.”

“Just because you know how to make money doesn’t mean you know how to keep it.”

“Generational wealth is structure—trusts, insurance, planning.”

“Put yourself on your own balance sheet.”

“Your mindset controls everything around you.”

Overall Message

Ashley Joi Boyd’s interview is a masterclass in reclaiming control—creatively, financially, and mentally. Her story demonstrates that wealth is not defined by income alone, but by ownership, education, structure, and intention.

By openly sharing both her success and setbacks, Ashley empowers listeners to stop avoiding financial truth, build sustainable habits, and believe that long‑term wealth is possible—no matter where they are starting.

#SHMS #BEST #STRAW

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Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Ashley Joi Boyd.
Interview Purpose
The purpose of this interview is to explore the intersection of creativity, financial literacy, ownership, and personal resilience, using Ashley Joi Boyd&rsquo;s journey as a Grammy‑nominated songwriter, music publisher, real estate developer, and author as a powerful case study.
Through honest conversation, Ashley reframes success in the entertainment industry beyond fame and hits, emphasizing business ownership, financial education, mindset, and long‑term wealth building. The interview also serves as an empowerment message&mdash;particularly for women&mdash;demonstrating that financial setbacks, including bankruptcy, can become turning points rather than permanent barriers.
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Major Themes &amp; Key Takeaways 1. Songwriting Is the Heart&mdash;and the Business&mdash;of Music
Ashley explains that songwriting is not just creativity; it is the foundation of lasting success in the music industry. While artists may earn from performances, writers and publishers earn from ownership, collecting royalties every time a song is played, streamed, or used globally.
Key takeaway: Creativity generates income, but ownership generates wealth.
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2. Publishing Is Where the Real Money Lives
Ashley highlights that music publishing&mdash;not performing&mdash;is the most lucrative side of the industry. By owning her publishing company, she positioned herself to earn long‑term, recurring income rather than relying on one‑time payments or constant touring.
Key takeaway: Understanding back‑end revenue streams is critical in any industry.
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3. Business Knowledge Creates Leverage
Raised in an entertainment household, Ashley learned early the importance of understanding contracts, rights, and percentages. She famously walked away from a publishing deal that demanded 75% ownership&mdash;choosing long‑term control over short‑term opportunity.
Key takeaway: Walking away from the wrong deal can be the right decision.
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4. Opportunity Meets Preparation
Ashley&rsquo;s collaboration on Justin Bieber&rsquo;s hit &ldquo;Yummy&rdquo; did not happen overnight. It was the result of years of preparation, proven skill, respect for her craft, and being ready when the door opened.
Key takeaway: Access opens doors, but preparation determines what happens next.
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5. Financial Collapse Can Become Financial Education
Ashley openly discusses filing for bankruptcy after the 2008 housing crash&mdash;a moment she describes as devastating but transformative. With no guidance at the time, she was forced to learn money management the hard way, reshaping her relationship with credit, debt, and planning.
Key takeaway: Bankruptcy is not the end&mdash;it can be the beginning of financial mastery.
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6. Financial Literacy Is Often Untaught&mdash;but Essential
Ashley stresses that many people, especially women, are never taught how to manage money, credit, or wealth. This gap inspired her book Financially Fly: Mastering Money and Wealth for Women, written to create a safe, honest space for financial conversations.
Key takeaway: Making money is not the same as knowing how to keep or grow it.
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7. Wealth Is About Structure, Not Just Cash
In defining generational wealth, Ashley emphasizes trusts, insurance policies, estate planning, and real estate&mdash;structures that protect families long after income stops.
Key takeaway: Generational wealth is built with systems, not just income.
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8. Invest in Yourself First
One of Ashley&rsquo;s most practical strategies is prioritizing yourself as a financial line item&mdash;saving consistently, protecting your credit, and building habits that support future freedom.
Key takeaway: If you don&rsquo;t prioritize yourself financially, no one else will.
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9. Mindset Drives Money Patterns
Ashley underscores that many financial struggles are rooted in scarcity mindset and emotional spending. Shifting to an abundance mindset and facing numbers honestly is the first step toward change.
Key takeaway: Your mindset controls your financial outcomes.
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Notable Quotes
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&ldquo;Songwriting is the heart and soul of a song&mdash;it&rsquo;s what makes it last.&rdquo;
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&ldquo;The real money in music is on the back end.&rdquo;
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&ldquo;I walked away from a deal because the business wasn&rsquo;t right&mdash;and that changed everything.&rdquo;
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&ldquo;Bankruptcy forced me to learn how to protect myself.&rdquo;
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&ldquo;Just because you know how to make money doesn&rsquo;t mean you know how to keep it.&rdquo;
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&ldquo;Generational wealth is structure&mdash;trusts, insurance, planning.&rdquo;
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&ldquo;Put yourself on your own balance sheet.&rdquo;
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&ldquo;Your mindset controls everything around you.&rdquo;
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Overall Message
Ashley Joi Boyd&rsquo;s interview is a masterclass in reclaiming control&mdash;creatively, financially, and mentally. Her story demonstrates that wealth is not defined by income alone, but by ownership, education, structure, and intention.
By openly sharing both her success and setbacks, Ashley empowers listeners to stop avoiding financial truth, build sustainable habits, and believe that long‑term wealth is possible&mdash;no matter where they are starting.
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