My next guest was born in Washington but raised in Durham, North Carolina. This is where his journey to become a Legendary Style Icon and former Creative Director of Vogue Magazine. His new memoir, THE CHIFFON TRENCHES, offers a candid look at the who's who of the last fifty years of fashion. He is on the show to discuss his engaging memoir that is told with raw honesty the story of how he not only survived the brutal "style" landscape but thrived—despite racism, illicit rumors, and all the other challenges of this notoriously cutthroat industry—to become one of the most renowned voices and faces in fashion. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations Andre Leon Talley. 

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My next guest was born in Washington but raised in Durham, North Carolina. This is where his journey to become a Legendary Style Icon and former Creative Director of Vogue Magazine. His new memoir, THE CHIFFON TRENCHES, offers a candid look at the who's who of the last fifty years of fashion. He is on the show to discuss his engaging memoir that is told with raw honesty the story of how he not only survived the brutal "style" landscape but thrived—despite racism, illicit rumors, and all the other challenges of this notoriously cutthroat industry—to become one of the most renowned voices and faces in fashion. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations Andre Leon Talley.    https://www.moneymakingconversations.com https://www.youtube.com/MoneyMakingConversations https://www.facebook.com/MoneyMakingConversations/ https://twitter.com/moneymakingconv https://www.instagram.com/moneymakingconversations/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

Hi, this is Rushion McDonald. Welcome to the podcast world of Money Making Conversations Master Class. I interview profits and nonprofits to learn their "Secrets to Success."  I'm a former IBM Executive with a degree in Mathematics. I started my entrepreneurial career as a stand-up comic, then became a sitcom writer, award-winning baker, social media influencer, award-winning television Executive Producer, and brand architect for super-successful celebrities and products. Money Making Conversations Master Class interviews a diverse group of celebrities, entrepreneurs, and influencers in the financial and business community with their advice and tips so you can be successful, too. It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and start building your own. People always talk about their purpose or gifts. If you have a gift, Lead with your Gift, and don't let your friends, family, or co-workers stop you from planning or living your dream. Keep Winning!

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Hi, this is Rushion McDonald. Welcome to the podcast world of Money Making Conversations Master Class. I interview profits and nonprofits to learn their "Secrets to Success."  I'm a former IBM Executive with a degree in Mathematics. I started my entrepreneurial career as a stand-up comic, then became a sitcom writer, award-winning baker, social media influencer, award-winning television Executive Producer, and brand architect for super-successful celebrities and products. Money Making Conversations Master Class interviews a diverse group of celebrities, entrepreneurs, and influencers in the financial and business community with their advice and tips so you can be successful, too. It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and start building your own. People always talk about their purpose or gifts. If you have a gift, Lead with your Gift, and don't let your friends, family, or co-workers stop you from planning or living your dream. Keep Winning!
https://www.moneymakingconversations.com
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Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Keith Milner.

Purpose of the Interview

The interview aims to inspire aspiring entrepreneurs by sharing Keith Milner’s journey from corporate America to entrepreneurship. It emphasizes discipline, leadership, risk-taking, and strategies for building generational wealth, particularly for underrepresented communities.

Key Takeaways


Foundational Lessons from Childhood
Growing up in a disciplined, hardworking family taught Keith accountability, integrity, and the principle of choices and consequences.
Education was highly valued in his household, shaping his drive for success.


Corporate vs. Entrepreneurial Mindset
Corporate careers can feel secure but are often riskier because you lack control over your destiny.
Entrepreneurship offers greater control and potential for generational wealth.


Leadership and Teamwork
Lessons from sports—teamwork, discipline, and leadership—translate directly into business success.
Establishing a common goal and coaching employees is crucial, but underperformers must eventually be let go.


Risk and Value
Many African-Americans view entrepreneurship as risky, but Keith argues it’s less risky than employment in an at-will state.
Success depends on creating value that customers are willing to pay for.


Franchising Journey
Relationships opened doors to Jersey Mike’s franchise ownership.
Entrepreneurship requires hands-on involvement—Keith still works in his stores when needed.


Advice for Aspiring Entrepreneurs
Adopt a growth mindset and positive attitude.
Follow the Five P’s: Plan, Prepare, Produce, Pivot, Persevere.
Understand that entrepreneurship is a daily grind—“Every morning in the jungle, the lion wakes up running.”

Notable Quotes


On discipline and accountability:
“If you said you were going to do something, you did it. If you were told to do something, you got it done.”


On choices:
“We make choices every day, and if you don’t make the right choice, there are consequences.”


On entrepreneurship vs. employment:
“Entrepreneurship and small business ownership is the best way to create generational wealth.”


On leadership:
“There are very few things in life you can do alone. You need people, you need a team.”


On success formula:
“You control the inputs, and therefore you can charge what you want—as long as you generate enough value.”


On entrepreneurial mindset:
“Plan, Prepare, Produce, Pivot, Persevere.”


Swahili proverb:
“Every morning in the jungle, the lion wakes up running… The question becomes, who’s going to run the fastest?”

#SHMS #STRAW #BEST

Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed&nbsp;Keith Milner.
<hr>
Purpose of the Interview
The interview aims to inspire aspiring entrepreneurs by sharing Keith Milner&rsquo;s journey from corporate America to entrepreneurship. It emphasizes discipline, leadership, risk-taking, and strategies for building generational wealth, particularly for underrepresented communities.
<hr>
Key Takeaways
<ol>
<li>
Foundational Lessons from Childhood
<ul>
<li>Growing up in a disciplined, hardworking family taught Keith accountability, integrity, and the principle of choices and consequences.</li>
<li>Education was highly valued in his household, shaping his drive for success.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
Corporate vs. Entrepreneurial Mindset
<ul>
<li>Corporate careers can feel secure but are often riskier because you lack control over your destiny.</li>
<li>Entrepreneurship offers greater control and potential for generational wealth.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
Leadership and Teamwork
<ul>
<li>Lessons from sports&mdash;teamwork, discipline, and leadership&mdash;translate directly into business success.</li>
<li>Establishing a common goal and coaching employees is crucial, but underperformers must eventually be let go.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
Risk and Value
<ul>
<li>Many African-Americans view entrepreneurship as risky, but Keith argues it&rsquo;s less risky than employment in an at-will state.</li>
<li>Success depends on creating value that customers are willing to pay for.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
Franchising Journey
<ul>
<li>Relationships opened doors to Jersey Mike&rsquo;s franchise ownership.</li>
<li>Entrepreneurship requires hands-on involvement&mdash;Keith still works in his stores when needed.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
Advice for Aspiring Entrepreneurs
<ul>
<li>Adopt a growth mindset and positive attitude.</li>
<li>Follow the Five P&rsquo;s: Plan, Prepare, Produce, Pivot, Persevere.</li>
<li>Understand that entrepreneurship is a daily grind&mdash;&ldquo;Every morning in the jungle, the lion wakes up running.&rdquo;</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ol>
<hr>
Notable Quotes
<ul>
<li>
On discipline and accountability: &ldquo;If you said you were going to do something, you did it. If you were told to do something, you got it done.&rdquo;
</li>
<li>
On choices: &ldquo;We make choices every day, and if you don&rsquo;t make the right choice, there are consequences.&rdquo;
</li>
<li>
On entrepreneurship vs. employment: &ldquo;Entrepreneurship and small business ownership is the best way to create generational wealth.&rdquo;
</li>
<li>
On leadership: &ldquo;There are very few things in life you can do alone. You need people, you need a team.&rdquo;
</li>
<li>
On success formula: &ldquo;You control the inputs, and therefore you can charge what you want&mdash;as long as you generate enough value.&rdquo;
</li>
<li>
On entrepreneurial mindset: &ldquo;Plan, Prepare, Produce, Pivot, Persevere.&rdquo;
</li>
<li>
Swahili proverb: &ldquo;Every morning in the jungle, the lion wakes up running&hellip; The question becomes, who&rsquo;s going to run the fastest?&rdquo;
</li>
</ul>
<hr>
#SHMS #STRAW #BEST

Money Tips: He emphasizes discipline, leadership, risk-taking, and strategies for building generational wealth.

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Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Lisa Hankins.

Topic: Her book Beyond the Chair and life after the beauty industry.

🔑 Key Themes & Takeaways:
 Purpose of the Book – "Beyond the Chair"
The book is a guide for professionals, especially in the beauty industry, who are seeking to transition into new roles or careers.
It addresses fear, personal growth, and the importance of stepping out of comfort zones.
 Lisa’s Journey
Lisa spent 35 years in the beauty industry.
She experienced physical tolls from the job, including lung issues and back injuries, partly due to prolonged exposure to chemicals like relaxers and hair product fumes.
A back injury in 2012 forced her to leave the industry at age 50.
 Health & Safety in the Beauty Industry
Lisa highlighted the dangers of chemical exposure and lack of protective measures (e.g., not using gloves).
She emphasized the need for awareness about long-term health risks for stylists and barbers.
 Faith and Planning
Lisa credits her faith and careful financial planning (savings, insurance, retirement funds) for enabling her smooth transition.
She encourages others to prepare financially and spiritually for life changes.
 Overcoming Fear
Fear is a major barrier to change. Lisa stresses the importance of faith, belief in oneself, and having a support system.
She quotes scripture and shares motivational insights to inspire others to move “beyond the chair.”
 Broader Message
The book is not just for beauty professionals—it’s for anyone feeling stuck in a role or phase of life.
Everyone has a “chair” they need to move beyond.
 Technology & AI
Lisa discusses the role of social media in the beauty industry.
She shares a humorous anecdote about AI and plagiarism concerns in her ministry training.
 Writing Process
The book took two years to complete, with interruptions due to health issues.
Lisa relied on faith and perseverance to finish it.
 SMART Goals & Retreats
She advocates for setting SMART goals and writing things down to stay focused.
A retreat experience helped her reflect and clarify her purpose.

📚 Where to Find the Book:
Available on Amazon.
Search for Beyond the Chair by Lisa Hankins.
#BEST
#STRAW
#SHMS

 

Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Lisa Hankins.
Topic: Her book Beyond the Chair and life after the beauty industry.
🔑 Key Themes &amp; Takeaways:
<ol>
<li> Purpose of the Book &ndash; "Beyond the Chair"</li>
</ol>
<ul>
<li>The book is a guide for professionals, especially in the beauty industry, who are seeking to transition into new roles or careers.</li>
<li>It addresses fear, personal growth, and the importance of stepping out of comfort zones.</li>
</ul>
<ol>
<li> Lisa&rsquo;s Journey</li>
</ol>
<ul>
<li>Lisa spent 35 years in the beauty industry.</li>
<li>She experienced physical tolls from the job, including lung issues and back injuries, partly due to prolonged exposure to chemicals like relaxers and hair product fumes.</li>
<li>A back injury in 2012 forced her to leave the industry at age 50.</li>
</ul>
<ol>
<li> Health &amp; Safety in the Beauty Industry</li>
</ol>
<ul>
<li>Lisa highlighted the dangers of chemical exposure and lack of protective measures (e.g., not using gloves).</li>
<li>She emphasized the need for awareness about long-term health risks for stylists and barbers.</li>
</ul>
<ol>
<li> Faith and Planning</li>
</ol>
<ul>
<li>Lisa credits her faith and careful financial planning (savings, insurance, retirement funds) for enabling her smooth transition.</li>
<li>She encourages others to prepare financially and spiritually for life changes.</li>
</ul>
<ol>
<li> Overcoming Fear</li>
</ol>
<ul>
<li>Fear is a major barrier to change. Lisa stresses the importance of faith, belief in oneself, and having a support system.</li>
<li>She quotes scripture and shares motivational insights to inspire others to move &ldquo;beyond the chair.&rdquo;</li>
</ul>
<ol>
<li> Broader Message</li>
</ol>
<ul>
<li>The book is not just for beauty professionals&mdash;it&rsquo;s for anyone feeling stuck in a role or phase of life.</li>
<li>Everyone has a &ldquo;chair&rdquo; they need to move beyond.</li>
</ul>
<ol>
<li> Technology &amp; AI</li>
</ol>
<ul>
<li>Lisa discusses the role of social media in the beauty industry.</li>
<li>She shares a humorous anecdote about AI and plagiarism concerns in her ministry training.</li>
</ul>
<ol>
<li> Writing Process</li>
</ol>
<ul>
<li>The book took two years to complete, with interruptions due to health issues.</li>
<li>Lisa relied on faith and perseverance to finish it.</li>
</ul>
<ol>
<li> SMART Goals &amp; Retreats</li>
</ol>
<ul>
<li>She advocates for setting SMART goals and writing things down to stay focused.</li>
<li>A retreat experience helped her reflect and clarify her purpose.</li>
</ul>
📚 Where to Find the Book:
<ul>
<li>Available on Amazon.</li>
<li>Search for Beyond the Chair by Lisa Hankins.</li>
<li>#BEST</li>
<li>#STRAW</li>
<li>#SHMS</li>
</ul>
&nbsp;

Uplift: She addresses fear, personal growth, and the importance of stepping out of comfort zones.

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Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Ashley M. Fox.

Summary of the Interview

In this episode of Money Making Conversations Masterclass, Rushion McDonald interviews Ashley M. Fox—former Wall Street analyst, Howard University alum, financial educator, and founder/CEO of Amplify, a fintech platform focused on making wealth‑building accessible to everyday people.

Ashley shares her journey from working with ultra‑high‑net‑worth clients on Wall Street to becoming an entrepreneur determined to bring financial education and empowerment to communities traditionally excluded from wealth conversations. She discusses the creation of Amplify, her financial fall and recovery, her work in schools and prison systems, and how digital content has allowed her to scale her mission globally.

The discussion emphasizes mindset, self‑belief, access, and a practical path to wealth, even starting with as little as $20.

Purpose of the Interview

The interview aims to:

1. Inspire financial empowerment

Ashley explains how anyone—regardless of background or starting point—can begin building wealth and shift generational outcomes.

2. Demystify investing and wealth-building

She breaks down how simple investing can be, the power of small consistent contributions, and how wealth isn’t limited to entrepreneurs or high earners.

3. Highlight her fintech platform Amplify

She shares how Amplify democratizes financial education through online tools, community, and accessible investing classes. 

4. Encourage a mindset shift

Ashley stresses the importance of eliminating fear, building confidence, and using logic instead of emotion when making financial decisions.

Key Takeaways1. Wealth Begins with Belief and Mindset

Ashley learned on Wall Street that the biggest difference between wealthy and non-wealthy people is not education—it's self-belief. Many people don’t believe wealth is possible for them because they've never seen it. 

2. You Don’t Need a Lot of Money to Start Investing

She urges people to start with $20, even buying fractional shares. It’s consistency—not starting amount—that builds wealth. 

3. You Can Invest in Others’ Ideas—Not Just Your Own

Building wealth doesn’t require launching a business. Buying stock is one of the easiest ways to participate in wealth creation. 

4. Ashley’s Own Journey Included Failure

After leaving Wall Street, she was evicted, slept on her parents’ couch for two years, and maxed out credit cards. Her purpose kept her going. 

5. Financial Education Should Start Early

She developed financial education programs for schools, prison systems, and everyday families because adults often learn too late. 

6. Amplify Scales Wealth Education

Her platform offers 300+ hours of videos and tools, helping members open 3,000+ investment accounts and invest $7.4M collectively. 

7. Social Media Is Her Biggest Access Point

Ashley reaches millions by being authentic, relatable, and consistent—meeting people where they are. 

8. You Must Pay Yourself First

Most people pay bills, companies, and creditors before investing in themselves. She emphasizes reversing that pattern. 

9. Logic Over Emotion

Wealth requires logical decision‑making, especially in the market. Emotional reactions undermine long-term financial growth. 

Notable Quotes (Taken From the Transcript)On Wealth Mindset
“When you think and know and believe you have the power to create wealth and you deserve wealth, you move a different way.” 
“There is no president that can build the wealth that you can create for your family.” 

On Starting Small
“You don't have to have a lot of money to start. You just have to have the will to begin.” 
“A whole lot of $20 can get you to a million—as long as you don’t stop.” 

On Investing
“Consider the companies you give your money to and own them, because they are a lot cheaper than you think.” 
“If I’m helping you build a billion‑dollar business by using your products, I deserve a piece of the pie.” 

On Self-Reliance
“You pay everybody… the bartender, the mortgage company—and you’re the one without money. Who’s going to worry about you?” 

On Purpose and Identity
“My story never changed. The mission was always dedicated to the people I didn’t see coming into that building on Wall Street.” 
“Amplify is the movement. It just has my DNA.”

#SHMS #STRAW #BEST

Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Ashley M. Fox.
<hr>
Summary of the Interview
In this episode of Money Making Conversations Masterclass, Rushion McDonald interviews Ashley M. Fox&mdash;former Wall Street analyst, Howard University alum, financial educator, and founder/CEO of Amplify, a fintech platform focused on making wealth‑building accessible to everyday people.
Ashley shares her journey from working with ultra‑high‑net‑worth clients on Wall Street to becoming an entrepreneur determined to bring financial education and empowerment to communities traditionally excluded from wealth conversations. She discusses the creation of Amplify, her financial fall and recovery, her work in schools and prison systems, and how digital content has allowed her to scale her mission globally.
The discussion emphasizes mindset, self‑belief, access, and a practical path to wealth, even starting with as little as $20.
<hr>
Purpose of the Interview
The interview aims to:
1. Inspire financial empowerment
Ashley explains how anyone&mdash;regardless of background or starting point&mdash;can begin building wealth and shift generational outcomes.
2. Demystify investing and wealth-building
She breaks down how simple investing can be, the power of small consistent contributions, and how wealth isn&rsquo;t limited to entrepreneurs or high earners.
3. Highlight her fintech platform Amplify
She shares how Amplify democratizes financial education through online tools, community, and accessible investing classes.&nbsp;
4. Encourage a mindset shift
Ashley stresses the importance of eliminating fear, building confidence, and using logic instead of emotion when making financial decisions.
<hr>
Key Takeaways 1. Wealth Begins with Belief and Mindset
Ashley learned on Wall Street that the biggest difference between wealthy and non-wealthy people is not education&mdash;it's self-belief. Many people don&rsquo;t believe wealth is possible for them because they've never seen it.&nbsp;
2. You Don&rsquo;t Need a Lot of Money to Start Investing
She urges people to start with $20, even buying fractional shares. It&rsquo;s consistency&mdash;not starting amount&mdash;that builds wealth.&nbsp;
3. You Can Invest in Others&rsquo; Ideas&mdash;Not Just Your Own
Building wealth doesn&rsquo;t require launching a business. Buying stock is one of the easiest ways to participate in wealth creation.&nbsp;
4. Ashley&rsquo;s Own Journey Included Failure
After leaving Wall Street, she was evicted, slept on her parents&rsquo; couch for two years, and maxed out credit cards. Her purpose kept her going.&nbsp;
5. Financial Education Should Start Early
She developed financial education programs for schools, prison systems, and everyday families because adults often learn too late.&nbsp;
6. Amplify Scales Wealth Education
Her platform offers 300+ hours of videos and tools, helping members open 3,000+ investment accounts and invest $7.4M collectively.&nbsp;
7. Social Media Is Her Biggest Access Point
Ashley reaches millions by being authentic, relatable, and consistent&mdash;meeting people where they are.&nbsp;
8. You Must Pay Yourself First
Most people pay bills, companies, and creditors before investing in themselves. She emphasizes reversing that pattern.&nbsp;
9. Logic Over Emotion
Wealth requires logical decision‑making, especially in the market. Emotional reactions undermine long-term financial growth.&nbsp;
<hr>
Notable Quotes (Taken From the Transcript) On Wealth Mindset
<ul>
<li>&ldquo;When you think and know and believe you have the power to create wealth and you deserve wealth, you move a different way.&rdquo;&nbsp;</li>
<li>&ldquo;There is no president that can build the wealth that you can create for your family.&rdquo;&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
On Starting Small
<ul>
<li>&ldquo;You don't have to have a lot of money to start. You just have to have the will to begin.&rdquo;&nbsp;</li>
<li>&ldquo;A whole lot of $20 can get you to a million&mdash;as long as you don&rsquo;t stop.&rdquo;&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
On Investing
<ul>
<li>&ldquo;Consider the companies you give your money to and own them, because they are a lot cheaper than you think.&rdquo;&nbsp;</li>
<li>&ldquo;If I&rsquo;m helping you build a billion‑dollar business by using your products, I deserve a piece of the pie.&rdquo;&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
On Self-Reliance
<ul>
<li>&ldquo;You pay everybody&hellip; the bartender, the mortgage company&mdash;and you&rsquo;re the one without money. Who&rsquo;s going to worry about you?&rdquo;&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
On Purpose and Identity
<ul>
<li>&ldquo;My story never changed. The mission was always dedicated to the people I didn&rsquo;t see coming into that building on Wall Street.&rdquo;&nbsp;</li>
<li>&ldquo;Amplify is the movement. It just has my DNA.&rdquo;</li>
</ul>
#SHMS #STRAW #BEST

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