We continue our conversation with Will Sommer (The Bullwark, the Flase Flag newsletter) in which he details his experience covering extremist groups and the challenges of engaging with conspiracy believers. John & Jerry have a point of view on the conspiracy theories about CIA.

No More Secrets: AI and the Future of Espionage (with Adam Davidson)
37:01

The Corruption of American Intelligence (with Julia Curlee)
32:53

The National Security Council Purge (with Julia Curlee)
32:50