Debbie Childs is the CEO of HelpingMinds and she joins Pat to talk phone use and when to put the phone down.

<p>Debbie Childs is the CEO of HelpingMinds and she joins Pat to talk phone use and when to put the phone down.</p>

Australia Overnight is broadcast from 12am-6am on Saturday and Sunday on 2GB, 3AW and 4BC, and 12am-3am on 6PR.

<p>Australia Overnight is broadcast from 12am-6am on Saturday and Sunday on 2GB, 3AW and 4BC, and 12am-3am on 6PR.</p>