And now, the problem with plastics.

Most of the plastics we encounter in our consuming lives cannot be recycled, and the pollution from plastics is causing great environmental harm, from the petrochemicals it takes to make it, to toxic exposure while using it, and the waste it creates when it is dumped in underdeveloped countries.

We speak with two environmental activists who are working to confront the growing ecological and public health dangers posed by the worldwide proliferation of plastic.

Tom's first guest is Lisa Ramsden. She's a Senior Oceans and Plastics Campaigner at Greenpeace USA. Lisa Ramsden joins us on Zoom from Durham, NC...

Then, Tom talks with Jennifer Congdon, the deputy director of an environmental justice organization called Beyond Plastics.

Jennifer Congdon joins us on Zoom from Bennington, VT.