Clement speaks to Professor Abel Esterhuyse, an associate professor of strategy in the Faculty of Military Science at Stellenbosch University and Steven Grudz, the Head of the Africa- Russia project at the South African Institute for International Affairs about why the decision by the United States to send cluster bombs to Ukraine has been widely criticized.

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<p>Clement speaks to Professor Abel Esterhuyse, an associate professor of strategy in the Faculty of Military Science at Stellenbosch University and Steven Grudz, the Head of the Africa- Russia project at the South African Institute for International Affairs about why the decision by the United States to send cluster bombs to Ukraine has been widely criticized.</p>

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