Today on Mental Work, by popular request Bron returns to the topic of emotional labour with guests Anthony Joffe (Psychologist/PhD Candidate) and James Clarke (Clinical Psychologist/PhD Candidate). They chat about 👉🏽 Surface acting vs deep acting vs natural expression 👉🏻 Surface acting and burnout 👉 Why authenticity is key 👉🏿 How emotional labour shows up in James' and Anthony's therapy work 👉🏾 The emotion regulation strategies they use in and out of sessions.

Mental Work is the podcast unpacking the challenges faced by early career psychologists, so they don’t have to go it alone. Hosted by Dr Bronwyn Milkins.

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Producer: Michael English

Music: Home

Today on Mental Work, by popular request Bron returns to the topic of emotional labour with guests Anthony Joffe (Psychologist/PhD Candidate) and James Clarke (Clinical Psychologist/PhD Candidate). They chat about 👉🏽 Surface acting vs deep acting vs natural expression 👉🏻 Surface acting and burnout 👉 Why authenticity is key 👉🏿 How emotional labour shows up in James' and Anthony's therapy work 👉🏾 The emotion regulation strategies they use in and out of sessions.
Mental Work is the podcast unpacking the challenges faced by early career psychologists, so they don’t have to go it alone. Hosted by <a href="https://www.bronwynmilkins.com/">Dr Bronwyn Milkins</a>.
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<li>Contact Anthony by <a href="mailto:anthony.joffe@mq.edu.au">email</a> or <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonyjoffe">LinkedIn</a></li>
<li>Contact James by <a href="mailto:james.j.clarke@postgrad.curtin.edu.au">email</a> or <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-clarke-453a3a168/">LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul>
CREDITS
Producer: Michael English
Music: <a href="https://home96.bandcamp.com/">Home</a>

Mental Work is the podcast about working in mental health for psychologists, with an early-career focus. Hosted by Psychologist Dr Bronwyn Milkins.

Mental Work is the podcast about working in mental health for psychologists, with an early-career focus. Hosted by Psychologist Dr Bronwyn Milkins.

A closer look at the everyday challenges faced by early-career mental health workers, so they don’t have to go it alone.

Mental Work

More emotional labour (with Anthony & James)

Bron is joined by Amy Henderson (Organisational Psychologist) to unpack psychosocial hazards in the workplace and what early-career mental health workers need to know about recognising and responding to them.

They chat about:
👉 What psychosocial hazards are and how they differ from physical workplace hazards
👉🏾 Why high caseloads, isolation, and workplace bullying are common risks in mental health work
👉 The subtle warning signs that your work might be affecting your wellbeing
👉🏿 How to tell the difference between “something wrong with me” and a systemic workplace issue
👉 What rights workers have if they’re experiencing psychosocial harm at work
👉🏾 Practical ways psychologists can support clients dealing with workplace bullying or burnout

Thanks so much Amy!

Guest: Amy Henderson - Organisational Psychologist, PhD Candidate with UQ University, Psychosocial Health Coach, HR Data Analyst

LINKS
Amy's LinkedIn

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Mental Work is the podcast for psychologists about the realities of working in mental health, with an early-career focus. Hosted by psychologist/researcher Dr Bronwyn Milkins.

Support the show by buying me a virtual coffee ☕🍵

Have a question, episode idea or just want to say hi? DM Bron on Instagram, leave a comment on the Spotify episode, or email mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com

Apply to be a guest / YouTube (with captions & transcript) / Website

CREDITS

Producer: Michael English

Music: Home

Commitment: Mental Work believes in an inclusive and diverse mental health workforce. We honour the strength, resilience, and invaluable contributions of mental health workers with lived experiences of mental illness, disability, neurodivergence, LGBTIQA+ identities, and diverse culture and language. We recognise our First Nations colleagues as Traditional Custodians of the land and pay respect to Elders past, present, and emerging. Mental Work is recorded on unceded Whadjuk Noongar boodja.

Disclaimer: Mental Work provides informational content. Mental Work is not a psychological service and being a listener or guest does not establish a therapeutic relationship. Content should not be considered a replacement for professional consultation or therapy. All views expressed are personal, subject to change, and do not represent those of any affiliated employer, service, or organisation past or present. Efforts are made to ensure accuracy, but opinions may not always align with fact. Listeners are encouraged to thoughtfully assess the information presented and report any inaccuracies or concerns via email. Further information can be found here.

Bron is joined by Amy Henderson (Organisational Psychologist) to unpack psychosocial hazards in the workplace and what early-career mental health workers need to know about recognising and responding to them.
They chat about: 👉 What psychosocial hazards are and how they differ from physical workplace hazards 👉🏾 Why high caseloads, isolation, and workplace bullying are common risks in mental health work 👉 The subtle warning signs that your work might be affecting your wellbeing 👉🏿 How to tell the difference between &ldquo;something wrong with me&rdquo; and a systemic workplace issue 👉 What rights workers have if they&rsquo;re experiencing psychosocial harm at work 👉🏾 Practical ways psychologists can support clients dealing with workplace bullying or burnout
Thanks so much Amy!
Guest: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-henderson-886220b3/">Amy Henderson</a> - Organisational Psychologist, PhD Candidate with UQ University, Psychosocial Health Coach, HR Data Analyst
LINKS
<ul>
<li>Amy's <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-henderson-886220b3/">LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul>
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Mental Work is the podcast for psychologists about the realities of working in mental health, with an early-career focus. Hosted by psychologist/researcher <a href="https://www.mentalworkpodcast.com/about/">Dr Bronwyn Milkins</a>.
Support the show by <a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/mentalwork">buying me a virtual coffee</a> ☕🍵
Have a question, episode idea or just want to say hi? <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_mentalworkpodcast/">DM Bron on Instagram</a>, leave a comment on the <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5ifKADwT3mw6yYDZb9rHji">Spotify episode</a>, or <a href="mailto:mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com">email mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com</a>
<a href="https://www.podpage.com/mentalwork/p/guest/">Apply to be a guest</a> / <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@MentalWorkPodcast">YouTube (with captions &amp; transcript)</a> / <a href="https://www.mentalworkpodcast.com/">Website</a>
CREDITS
Producer: Michael English
Music: <a href="https://home96.bandcamp.com/">Home</a>
Commitment: Mental Work believes in an inclusive and diverse mental health workforce. We honour the strength, resilience, and invaluable contributions of mental health workers with lived experiences of mental illness, disability, neurodivergence, LGBTIQA+ identities, and diverse culture and language. We recognise our First Nations colleagues as Traditional Custodians of the land and pay respect to Elders past, present, and emerging. Mental Work is recorded on unceded Whadjuk Noongar boodja.
Disclaimer: Mental Work provides informational content. Mental Work is not a psychological service and being a listener or guest does not establish a therapeutic relationship. Content should not be considered a replacement for professional consultation or therapy. All views expressed are personal, subject to change, and do not represent those of any affiliated employer, service, or organisation past or present. Efforts are made to ensure accuracy, but opinions may not always align with fact. Listeners are encouraged to thoughtfully assess the information presented and report any inaccuracies or concerns via <a href="mailto:mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com">email</a>. Further information can be found <a href="https://www.mentalworkpodcast.com/p/disclaimer/">here</a>.

Protecting yourself from psychosocial hazards at work (with Amy Henderson)

Bron is joined by Vi-An Nguyen (Organisational Psychologist and Founder of An Tâm Psychology) to talk about how culture shapes both our own experiences and those of our clients, and why conversations about culture and work matter for the clients we support.

They chat about:
👉🏽 Why discussions about culture and work can feel uncomfortable but necessary
👉🏾 The common workplace tensions faced by people from culturally diverse backgrounds
👉🏻 The pressure to assimilate versus staying authentic at work
👉🏿 How family expectations and concepts like filial piety can influence career choices
👉🏽 Practical ways early-career clinicians can sensitively explore culture with clients

Thanks Vi-An for this important and informative conversation!

Guest: Vi-An Nguyen - Organisational Psychologist passionate about culturally responsive mental health and Founder of An Tâm Psychology

LINKS
Vi-An's psychology and coaching practice, An Tâm Psychology
Vi-An's LinkedIn

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Mental Work is the podcast for psychologists about the realities of working in mental health, with an early-career focus. Hosted by psychologist/researcher Dr Bronwyn Milkins.

Support the show by buying me a virtual coffee ☕🍵

Have a question, episode idea or just want to say hi? DM Bron on Instagram, leave a comment on the Spotify episode, or email mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com

Apply to be a guest / YouTube (with captions & transcript) / Website

CREDITS

Producer: Michael English

Music: Home

Commitment: Mental Work believes in an inclusive and diverse mental health workforce. We honour the strength, resilience, and invaluable contributions of mental health workers with lived experiences of mental illness, disability, neurodivergence, LGBTIQA+ identities, and diverse culture and language. We recognise our First Nations colleagues as Traditional Custodians of the land and pay respect to Elders past, present, and emerging. Mental Work is recorded on unceded Whadjuk Noongar boodja.

Disclaimer: Mental Work provides informational content. Mental Work is not a psychological service and being a listener or guest does not establish a therapeutic relationship. Content should not be considered a replacement for professional consultation or therapy. All views expressed are personal, subject to change, and do not represent those of any affiliated employer, service, or organisation past or present. Efforts are made to ensure accuracy, but opinions may not always align with fact. Listeners are encouraged to thoughtfully assess the information presented and report any inaccuracies or concerns via email. Further information can be found here.

Bron is joined by Vi-An Nguyen (Organisational Psychologist and Founder of An T&acirc;m Psychology) to talk about how culture shapes both our own experiences and those of our clients, and why conversations about culture and work matter for the clients we support.
They chat about: 👉🏽 Why discussions about culture and work can feel uncomfortable but necessary 👉🏾 The common workplace tensions faced by people from culturally diverse backgrounds 👉🏻 The pressure to assimilate versus staying authentic at work 👉🏿 How family expectations and concepts like filial piety can influence career choices 👉🏽 Practical ways early-career clinicians can sensitively explore culture with clients
Thanks Vi-An for this important and informative conversation!
Guest: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/vian-n/">Vi-An Nguyen</a> - Organisational Psychologist passionate about culturally responsive mental health and Founder of <a href="https://www.antampsychology.com/">An T&acirc;m Psychology</a>
LINKS
<ul>
<li>Vi-An's psychology and coaching practice, <a href="https://www.antampsychology.com/">An T&acirc;m Psychology</a></li>
<li>Vi-An's&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/vian-n/">LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul>
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Mental Work is the podcast for psychologists about the realities of working in mental health, with an early-career focus. Hosted by psychologist/researcher <a href="https://www.mentalworkpodcast.com/about/">Dr Bronwyn Milkins</a>.
Support the show by <a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/mentalwork">buying me a virtual coffee</a> ☕🍵
Have a question, episode idea or just want to say hi? <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_mentalworkpodcast/">DM Bron on Instagram</a>, leave a comment on the <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5ifKADwT3mw6yYDZb9rHji">Spotify episode</a>, or <a href="mailto:mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com">email mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com</a>
<a href="https://www.podpage.com/mentalwork/p/guest/">Apply to be a guest</a> / <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@MentalWorkPodcast">YouTube (with captions &amp; transcript)</a> / <a href="https://www.mentalworkpodcast.com/">Website</a>
CREDITS
Producer: Michael English
Music: <a href="https://home96.bandcamp.com/">Home</a>
Commitment: Mental Work believes in an inclusive and diverse mental health workforce. We honour the strength, resilience, and invaluable contributions of mental health workers with lived experiences of mental illness, disability, neurodivergence, LGBTIQA+ identities, and diverse culture and language. We recognise our First Nations colleagues as Traditional Custodians of the land and pay respect to Elders past, present, and emerging. Mental Work is recorded on unceded Whadjuk Noongar boodja.
Disclaimer: Mental Work provides informational content. Mental Work is not a psychological service and being a listener or guest does not establish a therapeutic relationship. Content should not be considered a replacement for professional consultation or therapy. All views expressed are personal, subject to change, and do not represent those of any affiliated employer, service, or organisation past or present. Efforts are made to ensure accuracy, but opinions may not always align with fact. Listeners are encouraged to thoughtfully assess the information presented and report any inaccuracies or concerns via <a href="mailto:mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com">email</a>. Further information can be found <a href="https://www.mentalworkpodcast.com/p/disclaimer/">here</a>.

How culture shapes our experience at work (with Vi-An Nguyen)

Bron is joined byDr Catherine Hart (Clinical Psychologist and Director of Succoris Psychology) to chat about how to stay relevant and innovative as a mental health worker in a rapidly changing mental health landscape.

They chat about:
👉 Why innovation in psychology often comes from necessity
👉 How small changes in systems or services can improve client care
👉 Why many clinicians want more variety than full-time one-to-one therapy
👉 Managing fear of failure and backlash from colleagues when trying something new
👉 Practical ways early-career psychologists can experiment with ideas safely

Thanks Catherine for this important conversation!

Guest: Dr Catherine Hart - Clinical Psychologist, Director of Succoris Psychology and Succoris Psychology Partnerships, Private Practice Business Coach

LINKS
Catherine's psychology practice, Succoris Psychology

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Mental Work is the podcast for psychologists about the realities of working in mental health, with an early-career focus. Hosted by psychologist/researcher Dr Bronwyn Milkins.

Support the show by buying me a virtual coffee ☕🍵

Have a question, episode idea or just want to say hi? DM Bron on Instagram, leave a comment on the Spotify episode, or email mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com

Apply to be a guest / YouTube (with captions & transcript) / Website

CREDITS

Producer: Michael English

Music: Home

Commitment: Mental Work believes in an inclusive and diverse mental health workforce. We honour the strength, resilience, and invaluable contributions of mental health workers with lived experiences of mental illness, disability, neurodivergence, LGBTIQA+ identities, and diverse culture and language. We recognise our First Nations colleagues as Traditional Custodians of the land and pay respect to Elders past, present, and emerging. Mental Work is recorded on unceded Whadjuk Noongar boodja.

Disclaimer: Mental Work provides informational content. Mental Work is not a psychological service and being a listener or guest does not establish a therapeutic relationship. Content should not be considered a replacement for professional consultation or therapy. All views expressed are personal, subject to change, and do not represent those of any affiliated employer, service, or organisation past or present. Efforts are made to ensure accuracy, but opinions may not always align with fact. Listeners are encouraged to thoughtfully assess the information presented and report any inaccuracies or concerns via email. Further information can be found here.

Bron is joined by Dr Catherine Hart (Clinical Psychologist and Director of Succoris Psychology) to chat about how to stay relevant and innovative as a mental health worker in a rapidly changing mental health landscape.
They chat about: 👉 Why innovation in psychology often comes from necessity 👉 How small changes in systems or services can improve client care 👉 Why many clinicians want more variety than full-time one-to-one therapy 👉 Managing fear of failure and backlash from colleagues when trying something new 👉 Practical ways early-career psychologists can experiment with ideas safely
Thanks Catherine for this important conversation!
Guest: Dr Catherine Hart - Clinical Psychologist, Director of <a href="https://succoris.com.au/">Succoris Psychology</a> and Succoris Psychology Partnerships, Private Practice Business Coach
LINKS
<ul>
<li>Catherine's psychology practice, <a href="https://succoris.com.au/">Succoris Psychology</a></li>
</ul>
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Mental Work is the podcast for psychologists about the realities of working in mental health, with an early-career focus. Hosted by psychologist/researcher <a href="https://www.mentalworkpodcast.com/about/">Dr Bronwyn Milkins</a>.
Support the show by <a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/mentalwork">buying me a virtual coffee</a> ☕🍵
Have a question, episode idea or just want to say hi? <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_mentalworkpodcast/">DM Bron on Instagram</a>, leave a comment on the <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5ifKADwT3mw6yYDZb9rHji">Spotify episode</a>, or <a href="mailto:mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com">email mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com</a>
<a href="https://www.podpage.com/mentalwork/p/guest/">Apply to be a guest</a> / <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@MentalWorkPodcast">YouTube (with captions &amp; transcript)</a> / <a href="https://www.mentalworkpodcast.com/">Website</a>
CREDITS
Producer: Michael English
Music: <a href="https://home96.bandcamp.com/">Home</a>
Commitment: Mental Work believes in an inclusive and diverse mental health workforce. We honour the strength, resilience, and invaluable contributions of mental health workers with lived experiences of mental illness, disability, neurodivergence, LGBTIQA+ identities, and diverse culture and language. We recognise our First Nations colleagues as Traditional Custodians of the land and pay respect to Elders past, present, and emerging. Mental Work is recorded on unceded Whadjuk Noongar boodja.
Disclaimer: Mental Work provides informational content. Mental Work is not a psychological service and being a listener or guest does not establish a therapeutic relationship. Content should not be considered a replacement for professional consultation or therapy. All views expressed are personal, subject to change, and do not represent those of any affiliated employer, service, or organisation past or present. Efforts are made to ensure accuracy, but opinions may not always align with fact. Listeners are encouraged to thoughtfully assess the information presented and report any inaccuracies or concerns via <a href="mailto:mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com">email</a>. Further information can be found <a href="https://www.mentalworkpodcast.com/p/disclaimer/">here</a>.

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