Welcome to Men Talk with Len and Daniel. Today, we have the honour of sitting down with Michael Pickering, a former AFL star. In 1988, Pickering won the Tigers' best and fairest award and was vice-captain of the Richmond Football Club . Together, we dive into an honest conversation about men’s mental health: the highs of playing at the top, the pressure of life in the spotlight, and the challenges that come when the cheers fade, life returns to “normal,” and you have to stop doing what you love.