Australia, the geographically lucky country that shut up shop and crushed COVID. But has the politically popular hard-line response merely camouflaged a bungled vaccine rollout, resulted in a dereliction of duty to stranded citizens, and stoked xenophobic anxieties for political gain? Norman Swan, Osman Faruqi and Jamila Rizvi debate public safety and politics with ABC Radio Melbourne’s Raf Epstein.

Recorded for MWF in 2021.