Celebrated Irish-Nigerian author Emma Dabiri’s What White People Can Do Next cuts through the noise of online discourse to offer a robust and nuanced examination of race and class. Drawing from lived experience and academic study, Dabiri expertly outlines how the idea of race was constructed to bolster capitalism, while articulating a powerful vision of how to forge a future that works for us all. Listen to her in conversation with Santilla Chingaipe about a deeply practical treatise told with intellectual rigour and razor-sharp wit.

Recorded for MWF in 2021.