In Ep. 131, Jerry speaks with Jonathan Williams, chief economist of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). Join us for a conversation surrounding the release of ALEC’s latest Rich States Poor States data. Jerry and Jonathan discuss:
Which states are losing people — and gaining them
The consequences of the COVID era move to remote work
How states can “fall behind by standing still” on economic growth
What's behind the recent trend of corporate redomiciliation?

See the 2026 edition of ALEC’s Rich States, Poor States report here: https://alec.org/publication/rich-states-poor-states-19th-edition/

In Ep. 131, Jerry speaks with Jonathan Williams, chief economist of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). Join us for a conversation surrounding the release of ALEC&rsquo;s latest Rich States Poor States data. Jerry and Jonathan discuss:
<ul>
<li>Which states are losing people &mdash; and gaining them</li>
<li>The consequences of the COVID era move to remote work</li>
<li>How states can &ldquo;fall behind by standing still&rdquo; on economic growth</li>
<li>What's behind the recent trend of corporate redomiciliation?</li>
</ul>
See the 2026 edition of ALEC&rsquo;s Rich States, Poor States report here: <a href="https://alec.org/publication/rich-states-poor-states-19th-edition/" aria-label="Link https://alec.org/publication/rich-states-poor-states-19th-edition/">https://alec.org/publication/rich-states-poor-states-19th-edition/</a>

Meeting of Minds brings together the top minds in history, theology, finance, economics, language, mathematics and science. Host Jerry Bowyer invites guests to be both intelligent and clear and to follow truth wherever it leads.

Meeting of Minds brings together the top minds in history, theology, finance, economics, language, mathematics and science. Host Jerry Bowyer invites guests to be both intelligent and clear and to follow truth wherever it leads.

Meeting of Minds Podcast

I talk to the smartest people in the world about the wisest people who have ever lived, and I ask them not to dumb it down and not to follow any party line.

I talk to the smartest people in the world about the wisest people who have ever lived, and I ask them not to dumb it down and not to follow any party line.

Meeting of Minds

Which States are Winning and Losing in 2026? (w/ ALEC's Jonathan Williams)

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