In 1996, witnesses in Varginha, Brazil reported a cigar-shaped object crashing into a field, followed by claims that three young women encountered a nonhuman biological entity and that additional beings were recovered — some dead, one possibly alive. Nearly three decades later, the case resurfaced in formal discussions that included written testimony, video statements, and the attendance of Eric Burlison. On this episode of HELLO FUTURE, Kevin Cirilli speaks with Dr. Peter Skafish — sociocultural anthropologist and co-founder of the Sol Foundation — about how serious institutions should approach extraordinary claims. Rather than sensationalize, the Sol Foundation applies academic rigor and a “whole of society” framework to questions raised by UAP, including legal, political, scientific, and cultural implications. This conversation explores how democracies process testimony, how standards of evidence evolve, and what responsible inquiry looks like when confronting the unknown.

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