In 1996, witnesses in Varginha, Brazil reported a cigar-shaped object crashing into a field, followed by claims that three young women encountered a nonhuman biological entity and that additional beings were recovered — some dead, one possibly alive. Nearly three decades later, the case resurfaced in formal discussions that included written testimony, video statements, and the attendance of Eric Burlison. On this episode of HELLO FUTURE, Kevin Cirilli speaks with Dr. Peter Skafish — sociocultural anthropologist and co-founder of the Sol Foundation — about how serious institutions should approach extraordinary claims. Rather than sensationalize, the Sol Foundation applies academic rigor and a “whole of society” framework to questions raised by UAP, including legal, political, scientific, and cultural implications. This conversation explores how democracies process testimony, how standards of evidence evolve, and what responsible inquiry looks like when confronting the unknown.

In 1996, witnesses in Varginha, Brazil reported a cigar-shaped object crashing into a field, followed by claims that three young women encountered a nonhuman biological entity and that additional beings were recovered &mdash; some dead, one possibly alive. Nearly three decades later, the case resurfaced in formal discussions that included written testimony, video statements, and the attendance of Eric Burlison. On this episode of HELLO FUTURE, Kevin Cirilli speaks with Dr. Peter Skafish &mdash; sociocultural anthropologist and co-founder of the Sol Foundation &mdash; about how serious institutions should approach extraordinary claims. Rather than sensationalize, the Sol Foundation applies academic rigor and a &ldquo;whole of society&rdquo; framework to questions raised by UAP, including legal, political, scientific, and cultural implications. This conversation explores how democracies process testimony, how standards of evidence evolve, and what responsible inquiry looks like when confronting the unknown.

HELLO, FUTURE with Kevin Cirilli is the daily podcast where tomorrow’s biggest questions come alive. Are aliens already visiting us? Could your next job be in space? What if satellites could find lost cities, or stop the next wildfire? What happens if America loses the space race… or if every satellite went dark tomorrow? From Mars to UFOs, from flying cars to “civilization starter kits,” each episode blends science, technology, and imagination with the real choices shaping our world. It’s smart, fast, and curious, built for anyone who’s ever looked up at the night sky and wondered what comes next. This isn’t science fiction. It’s the future, knocking on your door. 

Kevin Cirilli is the founder of meet the future™ (mtf.tv). Cirilli has advised some of the nation’s leading military nonprofit philanthropists and policymakers and he is an emerging playwright. As a journalist, he is the former Chief Washington Correspondent for Bloomberg Television and Radio, where he covered the White House, Congress, and global economic policy while anchoring a daily geopolitical business affairs program.

Before founding mtf.tv, Kevin appeared across nearly every major network — including CBS News, MSNBC, CNN, FOX News, C-SPAN, NPR, and Yahoo Finance — providing nonpartisan political and economic analysis and conducting exclusive interviews with some of the most influential figures of the 21st century. He was also a media fellow at the Atlantic Council in the Global China Hub.

He has reported from across the United States and around the world — including assignments in Israel, Vietnam, and Saudi Arabia — covering pivotal moments in global affairs and the people driving change.

HELLO, FUTURE with Kevin Cirilli&nbsp;is the daily podcast where tomorrow&rsquo;s biggest questions come alive. Are aliens already visiting us? Could your next job be in space? What if satellites could find lost cities, or stop the next wildfire? What happens if America loses the space race&hellip; or if every satellite went dark tomorrow? From Mars to UFOs, from flying cars to &ldquo;civilization starter kits,&rdquo; each episode blends science, technology, and imagination with the real choices shaping our world. It&rsquo;s smart, fast, and curious, built for anyone who&rsquo;s ever looked up at the night sky and wondered what comes next. This isn&rsquo;t science fiction. It&rsquo;s the future, knocking on your door.&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-cirilli-943b162a/">Kevin Cirilli</a>&nbsp;is the founder of meet the future&trade; (mtf.tv). Cirilli has advised some of the nation&rsquo;s leading military nonprofit philanthropists and policymakers and he is an emerging playwright. As a journalist, he is the former Chief Washington Correspondent for Bloomberg Television and Radio, where he covered the White House, Congress, and global economic policy while anchoring a daily geopolitical business affairs program.
Before founding mtf.tv, Kevin appeared across nearly every major network &mdash; including CBS News, MSNBC, CNN, FOX News, C-SPAN, NPR, and Yahoo Finance &mdash; providing nonpartisan political and economic analysis and conducting exclusive interviews with some of the most influential figures of the 21st century. He was also a media fellow at the Atlantic Council in the Global China Hub.
He has reported from across the United States and around the world &mdash; including assignments in Israel, Vietnam, and Saudi Arabia &mdash; covering pivotal moments in global affairs and the people driving change.

HELLO FUTURE with Kevin Cirilli

In 1996, witnesses in Varginha, Brazil reported a cigar-shaped object crashing into a field, followed by claims that three young women encountered a nonhuman biological entity and that additional beings were recovered — some dead, one possibly alive. 

HELLO FUTURE: Episode 3: The Varginha Case — Testimony, Democracy, and the Sol Foundation Approach

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