In this episode of HELLO FUTURE, host Kevin Cirilli speaks with Jason Morales, CEO and co-founder of UNTILL, about our deep addiction to phones and the attention economy. Morales’s startup is built around a simple but radical idea: using technology itself to reward people for putting their phones down, reclaiming their attention, and spending more time in the real world.

The conversation explores whether digital tools can be redesigned to reduce screen time rather than maximize it, what it takes to compete with the algorithms engineered for addiction, and whether a new generation of products can help people regain control over their focus and presence. At its core, the episode asks a question that defines the moment: Can the same technology that captured our attention be redesigned to help us free it?

In this episode of HELLO FUTURE, host Kevin Cirilli speaks with Jason Morales, CEO and co-founder of UNTILL, about our deep addiction to phones and the attention economy. Morales&rsquo;s startup is built around a simple but radical idea: using technology itself to reward people for putting their phones down, reclaiming their attention, and spending more time in the real world.
The conversation explores whether digital tools can be redesigned to reduce screen time rather than maximize it, what it takes to compete with the algorithms engineered for addiction, and whether a new generation of products can help people regain control over their focus and presence. At its core, the episode asks a question that defines the moment: Can the same technology that captured our attention be redesigned to help us free it?

HELLO, FUTURE with Kevin Cirilli is the daily podcast where tomorrow’s biggest questions come alive. Are aliens already visiting us? Could your next job be in space? What if satellites could find lost cities, or stop the next wildfire? What happens if America loses the space race… or if every satellite went dark tomorrow? From Mars to UFOs, from flying cars to “civilization starter kits,” each episode blends science, technology, and imagination with the real choices shaping our world. It’s smart, fast, and curious, built for anyone who’s ever looked up at the night sky and wondered what comes next. This isn’t science fiction. It’s the future, knocking on your door. 

Kevin Cirilli is the founder of meet the future™ (mtf.tv). Cirilli has advised some of the nation’s leading military nonprofit philanthropists and policymakers and he is an emerging playwright. As a journalist, he is the former Chief Washington Correspondent for Bloomberg Television and Radio, where he covered the White House, Congress, and global economic policy while anchoring a daily geopolitical business affairs program.

Before founding mtf.tv, Kevin appeared across nearly every major network — including CBS News, MSNBC, CNN, FOX News, C-SPAN, NPR, and Yahoo Finance — providing nonpartisan political and economic analysis and conducting exclusive interviews with some of the most influential figures of the 21st century. He was also a media fellow at the Atlantic Council in the Global China Hub.

He has reported from across the United States and around the world — including assignments in Israel, Vietnam, and Saudi Arabia — covering pivotal moments in global affairs and the people driving change.

HELLO, FUTURE with Kevin Cirilli&nbsp;is the daily podcast where tomorrow&rsquo;s biggest questions come alive. Are aliens already visiting us? Could your next job be in space? What if satellites could find lost cities, or stop the next wildfire? What happens if America loses the space race&hellip; or if every satellite went dark tomorrow? From Mars to UFOs, from flying cars to &ldquo;civilization starter kits,&rdquo; each episode blends science, technology, and imagination with the real choices shaping our world. It&rsquo;s smart, fast, and curious, built for anyone who&rsquo;s ever looked up at the night sky and wondered what comes next. This isn&rsquo;t science fiction. It&rsquo;s the future, knocking on your door.&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-cirilli-943b162a/">Kevin Cirilli</a>&nbsp;is the founder of meet the future&trade; (mtf.tv). Cirilli has advised some of the nation&rsquo;s leading military nonprofit philanthropists and policymakers and he is an emerging playwright. As a journalist, he is the former Chief Washington Correspondent for Bloomberg Television and Radio, where he covered the White House, Congress, and global economic policy while anchoring a daily geopolitical business affairs program.
Before founding mtf.tv, Kevin appeared across nearly every major network &mdash; including CBS News, MSNBC, CNN, FOX News, C-SPAN, NPR, and Yahoo Finance &mdash; providing nonpartisan political and economic analysis and conducting exclusive interviews with some of the most influential figures of the 21st century. He was also a media fellow at the Atlantic Council in the Global China Hub.
He has reported from across the United States and around the world &mdash; including assignments in Israel, Vietnam, and Saudi Arabia &mdash; covering pivotal moments in global affairs and the people driving change.

HELLO FUTURE with Kevin Cirilli

In this episode of HELLO FUTURE, host Kevin Cirilli speaks with Jason Morales, CEO and co-founder of UNTILL, about our deep addiction to phones and the attention economy. Morales’s startup is built around a simple but radical idea: using technology itself to reward people for putting their phones down, reclaiming their attention, and spending more time in the real world.

HELLO FUTURE: Can Technology Help Us Break Our Addiction to Technology?

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